The crescent cab ge's dash 8s are the only locomotives I haven't seen roaming the tracks down here at all I have seen them in action on someone's channel before but I forgot who the guy was.
These are engines that have definitely grown on me. The SD60E 911 unit was stationed up here in Manassas VA for a few weeks moving rock trains for a large rock company. I was lucky enough to have seen her a few times. Though now it shows considerable wear, it was still a sharp looking unit.
the SD60E indeed does have a funny looking cab But its design is vitally important It was to meet up with FRA's current widecab standards for crash worthiness and to keep crews safer in an accident compared to a standard cab it was also rebuilt to make up for some of the failures the SD60 suffered trying to make up for what it failed in the catastrophic SD50 the rebuild was terminated because iirc, it was deemed a waste of time and money once 2017 rolled around, especially since NS had grew such a strong interest in the DC to AC traction conversion program, which sidelined typical updates to a standard cab that only got a new cab but no AC traction motors in all honesty, the SD60E does look good, but it doesnt do too bright in performance as NS had hoped, which is another reason why they stopped the program, especially since iirc the plan was to rebuild every SD60. But it still can get the job done, and is definitely by far better than the miserably failed GE version of the SD60E, the C40-8.5W
Unfortunately your comment wont hold up, the cost of overhauls are astronomical as well and the new units have the technology that keeps pace with operating protocol….ms
Wierd looking a little but I love seeing them. They have some dominating K5LAs, either older Narrow Font or a screaming Raised Letter. And yeah a good number of them are kept at Whitaker yard, for the transfers to and from Atlanta.
I love the EMD 60 series but I still think NS's SD60Es look weird. It's their elongated forehead/unibrow that makes them so strange. My favorite 60 series variant is the triclops cab.
Unfortunately for me I live near Pan Am's district 3 where roughly 2/3 of the road freights are Pan Am Southern trains, so NS locos lead. But because there is a ~15 mile section where the MBTA shares the tracks, units must be equipped with ACSES PTC, and the only compatible units are a handful of SD60Es. So most trains have one to three of those units.
I feel ya, I live near the D&H Susquehanna division and I’d rather see anything else at this point. Only recently some 22Ks have none-SD60E led trains because they’re not going all the way to Ayer.
I've got a story about that engine, one time right before church started I heard a train coming I go outside to watch it and that was my first time seeing a special unit it was trailing on a coal train and I was in pure shock
I love the EMD SD60E and I think they look awesome! It’s Crescent Cab is uniquely Norfolk Southern and I would never call it ugly. All locomotives are beautiful to me. I sure miss working on them. I worked at CSX though with those EMD Dash 3s with their unique CSX cabs. The GE BQ23-7 “Aegis Crusiers” are awesome too!
@V12 Productions Nice Video About The NS SD60E. Also, It's Not Just NS, CSX And The Other North American Class I's, As Well As Several Commuter Railroads, Have Rebuilt Some Their Locomotives And Have Given Them "A Second Chance."
My son and I saw that same unit in Griffin. We are huge fans!!! We’d love to meet you at the old Atlanta road bridge in Griffin that goes over the train tracks.
I’ve grown to like the SD60E a lot overtime. NS’s rebuilding programs are amazing with what they turn out with. I’ve also seen that they’re rebuilding some of their SD40-2s into SD40-3s. Even if those aren’t gonna be real SD40-2s, they will still live on for years to come. Locomotives like the GE BQ23-7 however? Is no acception. It was just plain ugly, especially when CSX had them in that ugly dark blue and grey paint scheme.
Nice interior layout, Storage for grips, good long hood visibility. And they’re SD60’s so they do well in the yard and on the road. One of my favorite motors to run.
In My opinion, I think it would be Great if we had a Cowl variant of this locomotive. The EMD SDF60E would be its classification. Also, the SD70ACC is essentially just an SD70ACE but without the Ugly large radiator grill, which makes it better. It too must have a cowl variant, and it should be called the SDF70ACC. There could also be ECO versions of the Cowl units. The SDF60E-ECO, and the SDF70ACC-ECO.
Hey that one was on the forest park track it looked like god I spent my summers there as a kid but it was a rusted over track back then now it's booming I heard
I actually really like the looks of the SD60E, I think they're very unique and the fact it's locomotive specific to Norfolk Southern, you can't often say that in this day and age of virtually cookie cutter locomotives!
NOT! I saw the SD-60E headline and immediately said not. I knew of one I liked so much its HO model sits in its case on top of my TV. I only rarely see it on YT and have to look for it on a special train locator app. Then I finally looked at the thumbnail and laughed. NS 6920! Thank you!
I've seen that exact same unit in here South Carolina in the Norfolk Andrews yard in Columbia and the ones in the regular NS black paint and horse's head.
I think they are fine. It's certainly function over form, and that function is note aero either. That said, they give some variety to head ends of already more interesting consists, so I am not one to complain. Also, way better than the Charger with the dot matrix nose. Those things are very astheticly challenged. Their longer distance and high speed counterparts look fine if the livery is good... But they otherwise look pre crashed out of the factory.
NIce video! I live 20 minutes away from the Altoona shops and have seen these being built. Even better was seeing the cabs coming from Curry which is in the old Conrail (PRR) Hollidaysburg cars shops. On flat bed trucks going past were I work at. They are a nice looking locomotive. The 911 unit is now assigned to work Enola Yard in Harrisburg,Pa
@@v12productions The shops are not what they were back in the day of Conrail, There's a lot of stored locomotives waiting to be sold off or scrapped. Cresson steel is about 10 miles away and they seem to be scrapping some of the locomotives. Waiting to see if Altoona gets the Southern heritage unit that was part of the derailment in Pittsburgh a few weeks ago. Time will tell!
I never really considered American locomotives funny looking as i grew up near mainline tracks with sidings pretty much in my front yard. Now a lot of UK trains look and sound funny to me.
SD60E’s are nice, I saw one at greenfield mass that was on 16R, a freight that runs through the infamous “Hoosac Tunnel” Crescent cabs are nice and I think they look nice compared to their sd60e standard cab counterpart, it’s nice change to ns usuals of aces and gevos along side the acu, acc and ac44c6m rebuilds
Cool video man I really like the sd-60 that is the first time I have seen a video about them until now I was unaware they were a thing may be a new favorite on the list
What this country needs is to be put back to work: high speed heavy freight from East coast to West coast; from the Great Lakes down to the Gulf of Mexico. Built efficiently enough to be in competition with the Panama Canal.
The 60E has character and that is something you don't see with train engines anymore. Everything is generic now, probably as a cost cutting measure, but the designers could at least use more imagination.
Just look at the wheel trucks. Even tho NS don’t have SD70 Standard cabs anymore but they have the same trucks as the SD70ACe. SD60 standard cabs obviously have the same ones at the SD60E.
i know i guy who works at curry rail services and when they were fabricating the cab, he said that there was guy who refused to help because of the bad looks 🤣 you need to come up to Altoona someday
Really helpful video kind of interested in them. they are kind of ugly In a good way though. I have one question about it though when they rebuilt it do they keep the DC power to the trucks or did they replace it with AC power?
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Look up the GE BQ23-7 if you haven't already. It also has an "interesting" design.
Looks like literal garbage
LOL I’ve seen it! It was used on the seaboard family lines wasn’t it
@@safetran50 Yep!
The ge bq23-7s look very ugly
It makes me wanna vomit sometimes
NS’s sd60e is like Santa Fe’s cf7
I personally LOVE the look of them especially the NS GoRail scheme.
Fun fact: There was only one other locomotive to have the crescent cab. It was called the NS C40-8.5w which was rebuilt from a few conrail dash 8s.
Do they still use those units?
@@brandonkoole655 I believe they were scrapped.
@@natestrains1166 Oof, that's a bummer. Do you know why?
The crescent cab ge's dash 8s are the only locomotives I haven't seen roaming the tracks down here at all I have seen them in action on someone's channel before but I forgot who the guy was.
@@brandonkoole655 They had a ton of issues. They gave up on them after the problems started showing up.
These are engines that have definitely grown on me. The SD60E 911 unit was stationed up here in Manassas VA for a few weeks moving rock trains for a large rock company. I was lucky enough to have seen her a few times. Though now it shows considerable wear, it was still a sharp looking unit.
the SD60E indeed does have a funny looking cab
But its design is vitally important
It was to meet up with FRA's current widecab standards for crash worthiness and to keep crews safer in an accident compared to a standard cab
it was also rebuilt to make up for some of the failures the SD60 suffered trying to make up for what it failed in the catastrophic SD50
the rebuild was terminated because iirc, it was deemed a waste of time and money once 2017 rolled around, especially since NS had grew such a strong interest in the DC to AC traction conversion program, which sidelined typical updates to a standard cab that only got a new cab but no AC traction motors
in all honesty, the SD60E does look good, but it doesnt do too bright in performance as NS had hoped, which is another reason why they stopped the program, especially since iirc the plan was to rebuild every SD60. But it still can get the job done, and is definitely by far better than the miserably failed GE version of the SD60E, the C40-8.5W
Old Locomotives always deserve a 2nd or even a 3rd chance at Life. The Price of New is Astronomical. 👍
Unfortunately your comment wont hold up, the cost of overhauls are astronomical as well and the new units have the technology that keeps pace with operating protocol….ms
Tbh I’ve actually never seen an SD60E but I still like how they look! They look badass ngl!
They aren't bad once you get used to them. I enjoy seeing them on NS Lines.
They're better seen than run from. They're horrible units.
I really like the SD60E I like the unusual face and it’s something only for Norfolk southern.
Agreed.
Doesn’t bnsf have some too?
Wierd looking a little but I love seeing them. They have some dominating K5LAs, either older Narrow Font or a screaming Raised Letter. And yeah a good number of them are kept at Whitaker yard, for the transfers to and from Atlanta.
I love the EMD 60 series but I still think NS's SD60Es look weird. It's their elongated forehead/unibrow that makes them so strange. My favorite 60 series variant is the triclops cab.
Unfortunately for me I live near Pan Am's district 3 where roughly 2/3 of the road freights are Pan Am Southern trains, so NS locos lead. But because there is a ~15 mile section where the MBTA shares the tracks, units must be equipped with ACSES PTC, and the only compatible units are a handful of SD60Es. So most trains have one to three of those units.
I feel ya, I live near the D&H Susquehanna division and I’d rather see anything else at this point. Only recently some 22Ks have none-SD60E led trains because they’re not going all the way to Ayer.
SD60E cool!!!!
The SD60e are like my first favorite NS locomotive
I've got a story about that engine, one time right before church started I heard a train coming I go outside to watch it and that was my first time seeing a special unit it was trailing on a coal train and I was in pure shock
I don't think it's "ugly", after all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
@@v12productions You're more than welcome. I like your channel, too!
In my opinion I do not find the SD60E cab ugly, I actually like and the SD60E is one of my favorite locos.
I have seen SD60Es on occasion on road trains whenever I go to visit my cousin and railfan up there
In Australia the 90 class heavy haul locos are basically SD60s in an Australian body built in Canada
Definitely not ugly, fantastic machine 👌
Beautiful engines, love em.
They do look funky.but I like them and they get the job done
SHE'S BEAUTIFUL 😍❤️
I love the EMD SD60E and I think they look awesome! It’s Crescent Cab is uniquely Norfolk Southern and I would never call it ugly. All locomotives are beautiful to me. I sure miss working on them. I worked at CSX though with those EMD Dash 3s with their unique CSX cabs. The GE BQ23-7 “Aegis Crusiers” are awesome too!
@V12 Productions Nice Video About The NS SD60E. Also, It's Not Just NS, CSX And The Other North American Class I's, As Well As Several Commuter Railroads, Have Rebuilt Some Their Locomotives And Have Given Them "A Second Chance."
Thanks!
@@v12productions You're Welocme.
My son and I saw that same unit in Griffin. We are huge fans!!! We’d love to meet you at the old Atlanta road bridge in Griffin that goes over the train tracks.
The NS SD60E 6997 is now in service well since 2022
I’ve grown to like the SD60E a lot overtime. NS’s rebuilding programs are amazing with what they turn out with. I’ve also seen that they’re rebuilding some of their SD40-2s into SD40-3s. Even if those aren’t gonna be real SD40-2s, they will still live on for years to come.
Locomotives like the GE BQ23-7 however? Is no acception. It was just plain ugly, especially when CSX had them in that ugly dark blue and grey paint scheme.
Nice interior layout, Storage for grips, good long hood visibility. And they’re SD60’s so they do well in the yard and on the road. One of my favorite motors to run.
Are you feeling OK? Those are the worst engines I've ever run.
@@katieandkevinsears7724 maybe shows you how bad our normal power is.
It looks much better than EMD's factory cab. Looks like a EMD should look.
In My opinion, I think it would be Great if we had a Cowl variant of this locomotive. The EMD SDF60E would be its classification.
Also, the SD70ACC is essentially just an SD70ACE but without the Ugly large radiator grill, which makes it better. It too must have a cowl variant, and it should be called the SDF70ACC.
There could also be ECO versions of the Cowl units. The SDF60E-ECO, and the SDF70ACC-ECO.
I was not expecting the Norfolk southern 6920 veterans locomotive in Tuscaloosa Alabama it was a long time ago
Hey that one was on the forest park track it looked like god I spent my summers there as a kid but it was a rusted over track back then now it's booming I heard
I've seen the inside of these units they look nice
Should been painted on a es44ac
U can find that on CSX 1776
Good afternoon to all from SE Louisiana 3 Jan 22.
I actually really like the looks of the SD60E, I think they're very unique and the fact it's locomotive specific to Norfolk Southern, you can't often say that in this day and age of virtually cookie cutter locomotives!
It looks Like 👍 a Bulldog which a Mother definitely Loves. 😬👍 Thanks for sharing this info with us. 👍
Very cool informative video. I'm a PRR fan so anything NS is cool.
Thanks!
I prefer the wide look. Thanks for sharing ✌️
NOT! I saw the SD-60E headline and immediately said not. I knew of one I liked so much its HO model sits in its case on top of my TV. I only rarely see it on YT and have to look for it on a special train locator app. Then I finally looked at the thumbnail and laughed. NS 6920! Thank you!
its pure beauty
The so-called "unibrow" design looks fine. It probably helps in all weather conditions.
They look good imho, would be good to see few transfered down to the Panama Canal railway when NS have done with them.
I've seen that exact same unit in here South Carolina in the Norfolk Andrews yard in Columbia and the ones in the regular NS black paint and horse's head.
It’s a piece of Art & Technology
Very nice...thanks and the details are quite interesting.
Seeing the NS SD60E looks weird but I like seeing it
They not ugly! They are Awesome!!
I think they are fine. It's certainly function over form, and that function is note aero either. That said, they give some variety to head ends of already more interesting consists, so I am not one to complain.
Also, way better than the Charger with the dot matrix nose. Those things are very astheticly challenged. Their longer distance and high speed counterparts look fine if the livery is good... But they otherwise look pre crashed out of the factory.
Good points!
I actually think it looks pretty good
Definitely not ugly!
NIce video! I live 20 minutes away from the Altoona shops and have seen these being built. Even better was seeing the cabs coming from Curry which is in the old Conrail (PRR) Hollidaysburg cars shops. On flat bed trucks going past were I work at. They are a nice looking locomotive. The 911 unit is now assigned to work Enola Yard in Harrisburg,Pa
That's really cool! I'd like to see the shops in Altoona at some point.
@@v12productions The shops are not what they were back in the day of Conrail, There's a lot of stored locomotives waiting to be sold off or scrapped. Cresson steel is about 10 miles away and they seem to be scrapping some of the locomotives. Waiting to see if Altoona gets the Southern heritage unit that was part of the derailment in Pittsburgh a few weeks ago. Time will tell!
6920 should get a purple heart painted on it since it did get damage from hitting a car
It looks different but I don't think it's ugly at all. I think it's handsome.
I never really considered American locomotives funny looking as i grew up near mainline tracks with sidings pretty much in my front yard.
Now a lot of UK trains look and sound funny to me.
Honestly I think it’s a good looking engine. Looks cool in my opinion. Looks like it has a hat
SD60E’s are nice, I saw one at greenfield mass that was on 16R, a freight that runs through the infamous “Hoosac Tunnel”
Crescent cabs are nice and I think they look nice compared to their sd60e standard cab counterpart, it’s nice change to ns usuals of aces and gevos along side the acu, acc and ac44c6m rebuilds
Nice detailed and descriptive video.
Cool video man I really like the sd-60 that is the first time I have seen a video about them until now I was unaware they were a thing may be a new favorite on the list
Thanks!
I like it, look tough, and like it's wearing a hat
What this country needs is to be put back to work: high speed heavy freight from East coast to West coast; from the Great Lakes down to the Gulf of Mexico. Built efficiently enough to be in competition with the Panama Canal.
I'm a train and I choo choose to approve this video ;)
Dude spits facts, but not ugly
Almost reminds me of the Union Pacific GE-U50s; flat nose, long body...
Looks like an upgraded version of the SD70M
Beautiful
Rd# 7007 works locals where I'm at on the Memphis east end district. Just subed to the channel!! Love the content 👏👍
NS 6920 was actually in a accident it hit a women’s house when it was being moved
Speaking of the 60e's I seen one at ns simpson yard in Jacksonville Fl
I did see a SD60E in my town I live in Pennsylvania in Lititz
I love SD60Es
It isn't ugly, they can just be rough riders
Cool video
Thanks!
I didn't like them at first..but I have to like it. After all, at the end of the day...it's still an EMD.
Have you guys ever considered doing a rail fan guide for modern locomotives?
I'm thinking about doing a Special about modern locomotives. Like a 45 min video.
it looks great!
I haven't saw one yet, they Avoid Michigan and Northwest Ohio for the most part.
I like them, great video!!!
Thanks!
The 60E has character and that is something you don't see with train engines anymore. Everything is generic now, probably as a cost cutting measure, but the designers could at least use more imagination.
There’s nothing wrong with this loco. I love it Lol.
Great video.
Thanks!
Hey, at least it doesn’t have those Huge Radiators at the Rear.
I think it's pretty nice looking
We were in Griffin like a week ago and saw it 😂
The cab top looks like a baseball cap
I think they look awesome! I can’t tell the difference between a SD60 and a SD70. Lol Very very cool 😎
Just look at the wheel trucks. Even tho NS don’t have SD70 Standard cabs anymore but they have the same trucks as the SD70ACe. SD60 standard cabs obviously have the same ones at the SD60E.
@@bellaxxi4116 oh okay! Good to know sir. Thanks for explaining that to me. I greatly appreciate it.
@@brandonreeves5979 No problem 😉
Can't really call the 60E ugly when you see union Pacifics u50s 😂 t
Great video
does only NS rebuild their own older engines internally instead of having Progress (EMD)or Waltec GE do the work?
They're the only railroad company I know of that does that.
@@v12productions that’s what I thought Thanks
i know i guy who works at curry rail services and when they were fabricating the cab, he said that there was guy who refused to help because of the bad looks 🤣 you need to come up to Altoona someday
I'd like to get up there at some point.
Really helpful video kind of interested in them. they are kind of ugly In a good way though. I have one question about it though when they rebuilt it do they keep the DC power to the trucks or did they replace it with AC power?
The SD60E is DC power.
Still DC, I believe.
The 60Es are handsome locos.
I kinda say I like these SD60E's what Norfolk Southern just replaced the SD60's
Those cabs are obnoxiously loud on the inside. I always dreaded getting a 60E leader.
EMD's rule!
I'd say the crescent cab looks a lot better than the admiral cab
They're not ugly. And the "unibrow" is more like the brim of a ballcap and acts as such.
The cab does look rather odd, but not ugly at to me.
SOMETIMES STRONG can be ugly hell ya
I love it