Whitlock & Wiley disagree on the allegation made by Myles Garrett | NFL | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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- Jason Whitlock, Marcellus Wiley, Mark Schlereth and LaVar Arrington talk about the allegation made by Cleveland Browns defensive end Myles Garrett against Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph.
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Whitlock & Wiley disagree on the allegation made by Myles Garrett | NFL | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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What are your thoughts on Myles Garrett’s allegation?
I think if Rudolph really said something racist garret would have been said something i think he's full of shhh
@@TooColdYT same
Its miked up for the league to check--Nothing. If that racial slur was said, Garrett didnt speak that at all afterwards until he stood before the commissioner. Of course Wiley, cant see through this--get passed it bro.
WHITLOCK IS A COWARD
Speak For Yourself Marcellus right on point LaVar Arrington right on point back to the study wow OG Arrington
“I don’t have a reason NOT to believe Myles Garrett”
Except none of the other 21 players nor any official heard this. Fantastic.
Have you heard of the concept of volume. Mason didn’t necessarily shout it at him maybe it was whispered.
@@syuhaguawuwhapwb6124 ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?
@@TweaNation never said he was guilty i just said this wasn’t the be all end all
"My blackness won't allow me to give an honest opinion." -Wiley
Good summary
Imagine being I such a mental prison that your afraid to speak honestly for fear of being called a sellout?
@@CoreyT127 well put
@ Nolan Gleason If blacks are tribal I guess whites are clan-like
I know more Marcellus but I haven't talked to him since we were in early twenties. He didn't act racist then at all
Come on man. If that QB called him the N word we would’ve heard that on day one.
..more like right there and then..whether that word or any other slur..
I don't think so for exactly what Whitlock said. People like Whitlock would automatically say that Garrett is trying to play the race card to justify his actions. Also, I don't remember Garrett being allowed to say anything that wasn't already prepared for him. It would make sense that the organization and his lawyer wouldn't want Garrett to freely talk in public cuz it could be used against him in his appeal. So, to me, it makes sense that he waited (most likely on advice of the org and/or his lawyer) until his appeal to fully explain his side of what happened.
You cannot make overarching generalities cuz you cannot speak for every single person. If you think you can then you're dumber than I thought you are.
Garrett and his HC insinuated that something was said immediately after the game. Then Garrett waits until and official meeting, closed doors, with a league official, under oath to let the league know what's up. As anyone with a sense of responsibility and respect for the league would do, as an act of not escolating. It gets leaked and now everyone's getting pissy that he didn't shout off the rooftops as the entire media world is condemning him. The same people who are ripping him for going through the proper channels would have ripped him for not going through the proper channels.
@@cannotwaittoseedavanteadam4301 you sir, are doing the exact thing that you in your closing paragraph say people cant do, that is funny, and hypocritical
@@wildsillyman47 You don't make any sense. I didn't make any overarching generalities. I am assuming you are referring to when I said "people like Whitlock" i.e. the people who are saying the same thing as Whitlock. I am not talking on behalf of every single person. Do you even know what constitutes an overarching generality? Explain how what I said was hypocritical. When you fail to do so, be prepared to be made fun of mercilessly.
Lavar Arrington on here looking like Rodney Peete.
Yo LOL a young Rodney Peete
Marcellus “Facts over feelings unless they’re my feelings” Wiley 😂
Brad T dude so true
@@Superdimensional I don't respect Wiley anymore.
Sweet Music he always been an emo.
Brad T I agree
Good one bruh!!!
Wiley: "I'm going to choose to believe him and then bend all the facts to support that belief instead of going with the common sense explanation that he's lying."
@Jay Rush you must have never lived in reality
How’s it common sense
joelil thrash it’s common sense Garret is lying if you even have the slightest bit of self awareness and ability to decipher behavior.
Bend what facts?
When your reality and common sense is shaped by your misguided perception of reality then believe what you want . But regardless of when he would have said this accusation people like you would find it a convenient excuse. There are no facts to support if he did or did not say it. We only know Rudolph lied about being slammed and his hand being caught in his helmet and he didn't make the situation worse. There is no evidence to prove Garrett lied anywhere about his horrid actions or what led up to them.
If the helmet don't fit you must acquit
Should have 1k likes... surgical af.
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hahahahaha best cmmt i read all week
Myles Garret is lying. He never would’ve issued an apology without mentioning that he was called a racial slur. This is a pathetic attempt to lower his suspension. What an ugly day for the Browns.
Facts
@@cordelljohnson1060 Jesus man, were you there? Do you know for a fact that it was said?
@Frank B Parker Whiteboys tough asf on the internet 🙄
Josina Anderson should be fired!
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 Everybody is a tough guy on the internet, skin color not withstanding.
I dont disagree with Wiley, but I completely disagree with him on this topic
These are all opinions and not facts. That’s what makes it hard to decide. The minute a audio recording comes out one could either be completely right or completely wrong.
I don't know how...Marcellus and Lavar are actually using logic...Whitlock is using emotional frustrations as his reasoning.
@@boricuafrican1 What video did you watch?! Wiley is using a bunch of contextual BS! He believes Garrett using what facts?!
@@JTorr that there's no reason to NOT believe him....that's exactly the point that you or Whitlock can't seem to understand...that's logic.......to say you DON'T believe him because Jussie Smollett lied or because it's 7 days later or etc is NOT logic.
@SteelCityBL!ZT what? no one is accusing Rudolph of saying that but Garrett who said he heard him say it....wtf are you talking about?
Wiley sounds smart but I don’t think he has common sense.🤦🏻♂️
na, he’s def a high IQ guy....but somebody’s gotta be the contrarian
Ronald Kregar I think you're right, they probably said that the desk had to have different takes. Cause Marcellus' take, was just I'm listening to Myles cause he's black and not mason, cause he's white.
@- Cicero he literally went to COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY with a 4.0 GPA. Obvious racist comment 😂😂😂😂😂
- Cicero idk about low IQ... he went to Columbia didn’t he? That’s an IV leauqe school. But I agree he lacks common sense at times
@@JoshuaKimbrough "There's no God at Columbia which is why there is no wisdom at Columbia". He's probably knowledgable but it's not wise to just believe any kind of allegation without proper evidence.
Myles Garrett out here lying like Jussie Smollett hahahahahah...
I agree....I don't believe Myles Garrett either, but Jason Whitlock is still trash!
Smooyay
Robert Butler you have to prove someone guilty not innocent. The Steelers QB is innocent until proven guilty
Why did he get so upset his team was winning the game? Mason Rudolph didn't take swing at him. He had to have said something
@@bretyeilding9215 Robert didn't lean towards any side.He made reasonable assumption.dont know what happened
Marcellus Wiley has been married 20 times he will buy anything
😂😂😂
Joe Forte
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Where did you get that from? I can't find anything to confirm he's been married more than once. Not cool to spread lies about people.
I think his agent or lawyer told him to say this.
VERDUCHI MAN exactly
Jew lawyer.
This actually makes the most sense...good point
If all else fails, play the race card.
@jjosephdubya yeah, that makes sense.
B.S HE SAID IT...MYLES BEING A BLACK MAN N AMERICA DNT HAVE CHANCE. . OF COURSE HE SHOULD KEPT HIS MOUTH CLOSED.....QUARTERBACK ALL INNOCENT STRAIGHT BS
@@Listening4n0w go back to Africa then and enjoy all the modern conveniences there.
@@jayd.b.9729 LOL... Hey Devil you sound angryyyyyyy!!! Grrrrrrrr 😈
Or just dismiss anything about race that makes you uncomfortable, like most racists who use jargon such as “the race card”
Wiley is really pulling at straws here to defend Garrett
He speaks like a lawyer. A bad one.
whitlock said something interesting he mad at garrett playing the race card. but not mad at rudolph calling garrett an bully. throwing more dirt on his name when he started everything but couodnt finish it. he still hasnt apologize for those lors he told on camera like he was so innocent
@@mrkeels89 you killed your argument with bad spelling and confusion.
@@mrkeels89 calling someone a bully (whether it be a lie or not), & someone clearly lying about being called the "N" word are two totally different things. You can't compare those at all
You compare bully with a racial slur
Wiley can’t let that “brotherhood” go. Come on. A week later?
Why does it matter when it came out smh
M. Camp Garrett didnt lose himself all over a guy trying to take his helmet off.. lets cut the nonsense hes twice the size of rudolph.. Garrett probably felt pressured after the game and didnt want to make it about a race thing and didnt want to make the situation even worse than it was
This might be the dumbest position Marcellus has ever been forced to take
Christian Kensing arguments for ratings, let’s never agree and get rich !
Marcellus sounds like an idiot
station4hiphop me or Marcellus? I had forgotten the Kap quote, that’s up at the top too
station4hiphop ummm... ok....
@@javonttewilliams8663 This is the only response thats true! FACTS!!!
He lying Baker already came out and said this was the 1st he even heard about this. Gtfoh Wiley turnin into a clown
@Richard Hostetler He lost control, total control, but controlled saying what happened to cause it to everyone, even his coach.
This is most likely not how he really feels, every show needs at least one person to disagree with the majority
Baker dont play defense
@@Visionoyd so it ain't strange to you that Myles didn't tell any of his teammates that Mason called him a slur? That would be the first thing I told my teammates, coach, ref, and the media.
Richard Hostetler Said something to the proper authorities and that was his coaches and GM’s they said that that was not new to them they had heard about it and in his post game interview when the interviewer asked him if something was said from Mason to him they started the fight he said that the NFL need to go check it out and he wasn’t go comment on it until later on so he told people that something was said he just didn’t say exactly
Wiley debating this subject like he's a member of the Democrat party.
Mark D Lol he probably is
I bet Wiley subscribes to Identity politics
He's just playing devils advocate, it's all for show for people on these "debate" shows to disagree.
They have both sides here too, which makes everyone feel represented lol.
Mark D You would move the goalpost I’m the argument regardless. If I slapped you 7 days ago and you didn’t tell anybody for 7 days, does it change the fact that you were slapped 7 days ago?
why are you bringing up identity politics you tribal psychos put a party under everything.
Garrett is trying to save his rear end. I don't believe him.
Why should you white man
@Tony Saracen you like being that guy?
@@corteztank7568 you too lol. You realize that black people don't believe him as well . If you only knew how petty and weak minded you seem.
Your white duh smh
I believe Miles
The guy who has the year suspension is the one that assaulted someone- now y’all are the word police
They always change standard to benefit them
He assaulted the person that assaulted him first. How does everyone miss Rudolph pulling on his helmet when the videos clearly show he did it. But you act like he did wasn't anything.
@@sneakypete139 you clowns that equate face mask tugging to a cracked skull are the best kind of morons.
Once you say “assault” it takes nfl out of it. He has two enemies in his face and one actively reaching to hit him. I believe in the eyes of a courtroom this is clear self defense.
Anyway Mason has it coming for dropping the N bomb.
There's literally no way to know either way, so people should just reserve judgment and shut up about it.
Aaron Humphrey except Garrett apologized to Rudolph in a statement and never told the media or teammates about the alleged slur. We can use logic when looking at the circumstantial evidence and make reasonable inferences.
@@Superduperreverb Shhhhh 🤫
QBs are miked right? Players were standing around them, right? Stadiums are loud, not that loud.
Once again Whitlock is speaking facts again.
I agree with whitlock. We need to move on from victimhood and start accepting personal responsibility.
Tell that to the Jews.
@Ray Lat when good people stand by and say nothing snowballs turn into avalanches
@@thebestkoala when it rains it pours
I agree
Adriano Stafford the Jews let it go a long time ago
Nobody:
Wiley: "Joosey Smooyey is innocent"
It's Juicy Smul-yey, sir. lol
Lol yep basically
Red Hood lmfao
Subway? SANDWICHES?!?
Even if he allegedly did, does that change his responsibility in his own actions???
No, not a good point. The point was never Myles shouldn't be suspended. The point is that Rudolph should be punished sufficiently for his own actions, and that the NFL has a contract with the NFPA that includes players not being able to be suspended indefinitely for on the field actions. But you probably already knew that and are just feigning ignorance. smh.
@@kaikawasumi it was a very good point.
A point that's obvious and that nobody is arguing is a good point to bring up🤔
Nope
Mark is a smart man keeping his mouth shut almost this whole clip lol
Look at his skin color. You know he has to watch his words especially if he is siding with the white guy. Am i right?
He knows better than that
white people aren't allowed to have opinions on racial issues
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jsunh98 What?!? LOL? According to who?
Mason said
“This MAGA Country”
Is that a Jussie Smollet joke ??
Lol. Exactly
Nobody remembers how Russell Westbrook reacted when a fan called him a racial slur??? Did he wait before exposing this?
Exactly
Did he? I don’t remember
@@kanyeeast1340 lol he mentioned it right away and got the guy banned for life
I feel sorry for Jason Whitlock who is surrounded by these blind sheep.
Word..
You dropped the balls on this one Marcellus. If someone called me that, I would have let people know during my press conference
Marcellus contradicts himself about 12 different times in this segment. You can always tell when Marcellus is trying to bs because he starts using the word “context” too much and usually in an unintelligible manner
Sean Lutke I like how after three minutes of rambling Whitlock cut him off with a “how does that make garrett credible”.
This is most likely not how he really feels, every show needs at least one person to disagree with the majority
Jeremiah Johnson nah that’s Lavar on this show you can tell because he’s laughing throughout the argument especially when Whitlock calls out on his basketball game story. Wiley is trying to impress max kellerman.
@@dannytallmadge2161 but that's stupid to ask because Wiley's point is that Garrett is not "NOT credible"....Whitlock was trying to make it seem like Wiley is trying to say Garrett is right when Wiley was simply saying that you can't say Garrett is wrong.... that's called twisting someone's point.
boricuafrican the question was are you buying this. And Wiley starts off saying I buy it 100 percent. I think maybe you missed what Wiley’s point was.
Public: “I don’t believe Garrett because he waited 6 days to say talk.”
Wylie: “ I don’t believe Rudolph because he waited 6 days to talk.”
jjbeerj Lmao
..Was Rudolph supposed to forsee the garret lie?
Wiley is so frustrating. Arrington actually being reasonable in defending him Wiley is just blatantly biased and making no sense
Makes a lot sense. You will never understand something to something you haven't been through.
Stanley B how is he not making sense?
Oh my god, who could ever believe Wiley after his observation.
Nosara 🙋🏽♂️
Wiley made some good points...
or he could be disagreeing for the sake of debate, i like wiley but I think he's off base on this one
Wiley made some very good points
I believe Wiley
I use to disagree with Wittlock on a lot of things but he’s my favorite because of his honesty
First guy used logic and the second guy used emotion.
Conservative vs liberal debate in a nutshell
Everyone has their opinion, but the truth of the matter is,no one knows what happened between those 2,but something was said,something happened to start it all
“You waited till now this is the first time your telling this story”!! Lmao 😂
Whatever Rudolph said, whatever Rudolph did, it still DID NOT warrant the hit with the helmet on the head. Now if Rudolph made some racial comment to Garrett during the incident, if Garrett took a few swings at him with his fist, I'd be okay with that as sad as they may seem.
Look at Whitlock lying and tap dancing around the situation... he don't even know what players were involved🤔
Whitlock is right on point. Play the race card. Imagine that.
Yeah am sure you put that in right after you took the hood off
The reporters reported it, but yet not ONE player came out saying that Mason Rudolph said that. Someone would've stepped up and said something to back up Myles Garrett's claim..
This is strictly a race card being played in order to get out of trouble.
people on this round table are making me sick!!!
I don't care if a racial slur was used or not! That doesn't justify physical violence period!
While I agree with Jason and Mark in regards to why didn't Garrett mention Rudolph had used a racial slur towards him after the game; however, I WILL SAY that Mason Rudolph certainly gives off a RILEY COOPER vibe though.
Riley Cooper...That's a name I haven't heard for a while.
That's exactly what I was thinkin' the next day after this play happened.
Did Jocina know something or was she just saying whatever she felt? Reporters report news not predictions
Reporters report news? What planet are you on? There's no such thing as journalistic integrity. They're all selling a bias, one way or the other. The term "fake news" is the definition of redundancy.
Adam Schefter reported this as well
Mr Antmar If the timeline is correct, when the helmet incident happened, Jocina predicted that Myles was going to use the “he called me the N word” defense. Six days later, her and Adam Schefter reported that very thing happened. Jocina’s prediction turned out to be correct.
Sal Velasquez You some kind of angry anti-white pro Racist!
Marcellus "I grab meat rockets under the pile" Wiley
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It was a man and not a woman that came up with that slang.
What is meat rocket.
Your comment was hilarious also sr
Who knows if it was said, but MS Anderson was 1 of many black on air personalities that saw Garrett's response and Rudolph's facial expression and figured that word was tossed. We've all (black ppl) experienced this. So we back Garrett until he's found to be lying. O.J. anyone?
Sounds like you're applying "innocent until proven guilty" to Garrett, but he's the accuser not the accused. It's more rational to say that you believe Rudolph is innocent of racism until proven otherwise. Unless, of course, your position can be boiled down to your skin color-as you alluded to.
@@revolutionairre experience. Black ppl are considered guilty (o.j.) regardless. Our experience in this country and in this exact situation (being called the slur, the face of the person using the slur, and sometimes our reaction). You know women use this (battered wife syndrome). The experience is key. Doesn't mean Garrett is telling the truth though.
@@solomongrundy6650 Many black people feel the way you do. That doesn't dismiss the fact that experience is anecdote, and anecdote is not evidence. If you're willing to believe a white guy is racist because a black guy says so, that's troubling.
White people don't collectively do things. Black people don't collectively do things. Individuals do things. "Our experience in this country" does not include Mason Rudolph calling Myles Garrett a racial slur until evidence proves otherwise.
@@revolutionairre white ppl do things collectively all the time. White supremacy/racism only works collectively. Racism prevails because it's almost impossible to prove because you must go to racists to prove racism. This is historical fact.
@@solomongrundy6650 I think you missed the crux of my point. Can you observe collective behavior? Yes. If many individuals share an ideology, and act in unison, you-as a 3rd party-can observe a pattern. The difference between that and what you're implying with your support of Garrett is that you are presuming something about 2 strangers on the basis of race, instead of using evidence about the specific situation. You are forcing Mason Rudolph into a white collective, and likewise, you're accepting Garrett into a black collective.
My point was that these collectives are not inherent; therefore, it is irrational to place people into these observed collectives without evidence that they belong there.
Comon wiley you're smarter than that.
Why because he disagrees with you?
No he isn't.
@@phinocaster yes he really is. He didn't even try to understand the other side of the argument. He immediately condemned MG and basically called him a liar
He really isn't
Not buying that he waited a week to mention the racial slur. But if he's telling the truth I don't mind the helmet shot. No reason ever to use a racial slur.
Well if Mason said it, sooner or later they'll be trouble in Pittsburgh. Big Ben was in the midst of it last year. Eventually, the truth surfaces. Not saying who said what, but the truth will come to the light
I have been a long time fan of yours. Your even handed, honest, and color blind approach to sports and journalism is unparalleled in today's PC culture. My question to you is, "Why would you align yourself with a radical bigot like Marcellus Wiley. He believes that a nobody white guy like Rudolph would jeopardize his tenuous hold on an NFL roster spot, by calling Garrett the N word, while in close proximity to his black teammates....that makes NO sense, whatsoever. To anyone with a brain, Garrett is trying to deflect from his thuggery, period. Common sense would tell anyone that even if he did use the word, it is NOT justification for clubbing his opponent with a helmet. You are too good of a sports pundit to align yourself with this racist rhetoric. You have always professed that being black is not a get out of jail free card...do not let a counter attitude become associated with your approach to sports. You are one of the few whose opinion I can trust, even if I don't agree. I don't trust Wiley's opinion, no matter the subject, and especially, no matter the racial implications he brings seemingly to every topic. I am tired of race being such a highlight of sports....and I believe that most everyone else is too.
myles biggest mistake was hitting him with the helmet...he should have punched rudolph in the face and he'd be playing in 2 weeks
IF that word was said, then sure - I could have empathy for Garrett if he just punched him, the fact is, he used a helmet - and it still does NOT change the fact that the hit and follow through by Garrett was an intentional message being sent to the Steelers.
sublime90 He was just trying to put his helmet back on his head.. thats why he didnt hit him with the crown
Jason Whitlock deserves the most respect. Yet he'll get called not black or some such nonsense
Because when you reject victimhood and base your arguments and analysis on facts and reason instead of emotion and bulls**t, you're somehow the villain.. smh
Jason "whitelock" Whitlock ALWAYS defends white "innocence". Every interview. He rips ALL black athletes.
He didnt say it... Myles just wants to get the attention off of him
Well that is incredibly flawed logic considering he mentioned it in private and someone leaked it.
@@danielhettinger3056 wouldnt you lie to friends spread the word then talk to media... spread the word first then see what sticks..
He said it.
Garrett's statement says it all, he made a desperate play because he thought everything said in his appeal would not be made public.
Exactly!
I don't know if Mason Rudolph made a racial slur or not, I wasn't there, and I'm not going to say he didn't.
That said, a lawyers job is to put their client in the best light possible. I don't believe anyone believes every single lawyer in this country is 100% honest. Their job is to get their client off the hot seat, and they'll say anything possible to do that.
Literally, the only thing Myles Garrett could say in this situation to gain any kind of sympathy, was to say that Mason Rudolph made a racial slur. It would make a lot of sense for his agent and lawyer to try to push this narrative to gain sympathy, especially as it came out right during the appeal, and not before(maybe hoping the NFL wouldn't have time to spot anything).
Again, I don't know what Mason Rudolph said, but there is a lot of incentive for Myles Garrett to lie in this situation.
NFL found "no such thing" when it comes to this. Every talking head who said they believe Myles Garrett, including Marcellus Wiley needs to apologize for leaning towards tarnishing Mason Rudolph's character.
Rudolph is such a stand up guy.
They always play the card to justify their violence
Lavar Arrington - They were gonna shoot us LOL
Whitlock: "get to the point" lol. Lavar's such a weak debater.
Still not sure why he is on the show, as soon as he starts talking i quit listening.
Lavar has the best rational...he's always thinking outside of the box...Lavar is probably too smart for the show lol...
Whitlock does that as a strategy to try to weaken someone else's point.
@@boricuafrican1 lavar really connects with people who have a sub 80 iq
@@mattmorrison1408 only to those with sub 70 levels...
Why would pouncey go so hard for on Garrett if that was said he would not help Mason he was right there
No He Wasn't Watch It Again
I did I believe my eyes and common sense
Then your blind because he was not by them until he got hit with helmet
He was a couple of feet away and he knows Mason's character better than you or I he was a couple of feet away in the court if law I would be right I could prove it by showing a judge video
Dude they also have cameras with mics all over the place on the field miles wrote a letter did not say anything about it in his apology and when he challenged the suspension he did not use the slur used against him in his defense common sense facts and eye sight tell me I'm right if this was in court and I was a lawyer I would win this case easy with all this evidence facts facts facts not speculation
The guy in the blue is making ZERO sense. He is grasping for straws.
Wiley - not an attorney but he plays one on “Speak for Yourself”. 😂
So there was Garrett out looking for a Subway sandwich when bam!
Regardless of the racial slur...The craziest thing about it is that 3 black guys got fined and suspended but the white guy who started it was laughing and smiling in the huddle waiting for the next play and didn’t get any fines or suspension. It is a small full circle example of the way the world works.
Well, will Marcellus Wiley have to rescind his take now that it’s been PROVEN he didn’t say anything bad and Myles Garrett used a sleezy, last minute tactic to try to get sympathy and get his suspension reduced? Can we hold these pundits accountable for being wrong, and believing their own opinion so much?
Jason Whitlock sounds like he’s hiding pickles under his tongue 😂😂
maddsweetmickey Jason not Michael bro .. Jason Whitlock
He was asked by ownership to not make mention. It happens in corporations all the time.
15:50 Marcus calling Ogunjobi “Oboogle” 😂😂😂
I can't believe Whitlock let that go!
How Whitlock gonna tell professional football players they can't hear at the bottom of the pile?
Marcellus hurt himself. Credibility gone
People are getting on Myles Garrett for waiting a week later to talk about the incident but Mason Rudolph also waited a week later to talk about the incident and nobody is getting on Mason Rudolph. Hmm, interesting.
Miles Garrett is just another Jussie Smollett 😂
wiley ....really man? lol goodness...you are REACHING
Mark is just sitting there wondering if baby Yoda will be in the next episode of The Mandalorian.
It seems like the panel here is keeping score to see who did more wrong in this scenario.
Do you really think there was anything Rudolph could do to justify Garrett swinging the helmet?
If so, BS
Why is that relevant? One was punished severely to the point that the NFL broke a contract just to do it, and the other was fined minorly and not suspended. Do you want Myles to be punished more, is that it?
@@kaikawasumi Nothing, absolutely nothing, Rudolph did or said justifies Garret swinging the helmet. If he had not swung the helmet completely different discussion. So yes, Garrett should be punished more without a shadow of a doubt.
Think...:think..... maybe he didn’t say nothing yet cause he thought he was gonna get a lower suspension at the appeal. After the appeal was rejected and leaked unfairly. He was like let me tell it. Exactly what Marcellus said
The o line was right there and pouncey is black and he defended Rudolph
Pouncey came later
Mason Rudolph fallin faster than a reindeer in summer
He is no longer a starting quarterback anymore
I couldn't agree more with Jason Whitlock.
I think it's possible that he did call him something. There is some reason why Myles Garrett went crazy
I highly doubt a racial slur was used against Myles Garrett.
It's sad Myles Garrett will not take accountability for his actions. No actions on Mason Rudolph behalf justify the use of a helmet against him. Period! It just shows Garrett's character.
Who here is surprised that Whitlock went against Myles?😂😂
So what?
Whitlock is the real life uncle ruckus
No teammate nor opponent has ever heard Rudolph say a racial slur.
Garret’s race card has been revoked
Lmfao
Never had one!
And by the way, the "N" word isnt the only racial slur against black people. #themoreyouknow
Ziggy Doom racial slurs are bad no matter how they are said.
Both should be suspended period no questions ask both are in the wrong
Jose, as a Steeler fan I agree that Rudolph should have been suspended at least 1 game for his actions prior to Garrett's actions. If Rudolph's hand was stuck in the helmet it can change the dynamics of this but so based on "camera angles" I have seen, Rudolph was wrong to try to take Garrett's helmet off 1st.
Does FOX have a wardrobe department? Whitlock needs a proper fitting jacket.
So, Wiley wants to talk about Rudolph's comments six days later, yet doesn't question the fact that Garrett never mentioned a racial slur immediately after the incident, but tells the NFL it happened six days later. Also, LOL at Lavar's basketball story. "I don't remember if I told anyone." Ok, dudes.
Where's the MIC'd up audio
Schlereth wanted out of there. I’m surprised he said anything.
LoL. But he should have it is open conversation sensitive but open. Mark can take care of himself and he can comment his opinion as well. Like arrington said it goes both ways
Being from Idaho and we know how they feel I the potato state
@@coleeason6007. Lol. Yes we know
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that the guy in blue just admitted to twisting someone’s manhood in the bottom of a pile? Lmfao
it was right after he got finished suckin on it
He never said he twisted nuts and dicks! He said he would grab their stomach and twist. Nasty acts. I mean I've pinched ppl in the gut and kidneys in piles but never twist guts or grab nuts
The Real Reason no and the kick in and of itself warrants a suspension. Also running after Garrett also caused an escalation of the fight but nothing justifies the helmet swing.
The Real Reason you’ve obviously never played FB
Wiley is a f'n tool
Them saying that Rudolph looked so angry he would say a racial slur is pretty messed up lol
Marcellus used to be entertaining now he sounds like every other girl on ESPN
Lol
Man I ok if they use logic and facts to prove a point, but this dude is arguing just to argue!
Man shut tf up
Marcellus sounds like Greg Beez!!! Lol you go girl
@@joesalazar2634 And she don’t even sound hot...
Mark is smart letting all the black guys hash this out 😂😂😂
that's the best thing for him to do.
🤣🤣🤣
I recognized that also.
While at the same time does not pull a Max Kellerman
There is only two black men on the set.
The NFL has the entire field mic'd why don't they pull it up.....hmmmm
Rudolph helmet didn't have a mic in it..