I would love to see this too. I sometimes use the plugin versions of the manley stanley vari mu or the shadow hills mastering comp (the newer red version from plugin alliance), and I like to use brainworx v3 EQ for mastering (all 3 of these have mid/side processing). The way I approach mid/side during mastering is not all that different from stereo. The difference is that I am mastering the mid and mastering the sides differently. So it's basically like mastering twice vs. with stereo I am just mastering once (since I just do the same thing to both the left and right).
Also been distorting only mid or side for years with my own routing inside the DAW. Super good technique for roughing something up considerably while still keeping it's spatial clarity on the sides. Or vice versa!
I have the original hardware and did a comparison with the plugin a couple of weeks ago. I was very curious, because I like the Arturia plugins. With their plugin you get the same character (if you don't push it to hard). You don't get the same clarity and definition. But that's the case with most distortion emulations. It's definitly no snake oil. The character is there.
@@chinor3999 Paul Third made an interesting video about plugin saturation vs hardware saturation. I think that video shows one reason. The other reason is that the Culture Vulture is all tubes sound. No solid state parts are in it. Tubes are very difficult to emulate. th-cam.com/video/ShH6yqAuK7g/w-d-xo.html
@@musician1971a can't remember if there is oversampling available on the plugin. But if a plugin has oversampling, I always activate that option. But to my ears even oversampling does not bring plugins to the same sonic quality as analog gear. There's only one plugin in my arsenal which I often prefer over hardware. That's the Kotelnikov GE compressor. But that's not an emulation.
Arturia has been crushing it with the FX lately. It’s surprising because their soft synths are hit and miss for me. All quality just rarely best in show. But these effects? I keep coming back to them. Great sounding, fast and easy to use while simultaneously giving me all the control I need. I also recently had an issue with their software center and support fixed it within 24 hours. Happy customer over here
I bought their Pre 1973 plugin. I thought it sounded super good, silky smooth, then tried the Waves version, I thought it was meh and could get harsh really quickly as well as the IK version. Am sticking with Arturia. Which others have you tried that you feel are superb?
@@the-real-rabizzlethedoctor all the compressors are wonderful. The 76 and VCA get used constantly in my projects. The Trident Pre is my favorite of the pres. It just works on nearly everything. I wouldn’t say it’s the “best” out there but I also use the spring reverb a lot. It sounds great on guitar. I love the new Sansamp one too. Never use it on guitar like you’d think, it’s a parrallel crunch machine on bass/drums/synth :)
I really feel like saturation/distortion plugins really started to level up about the last couple of years. I remember how much I enjoyed Kazrog True iron the first time really thinking "this is a new era". Same with the distortion in guitar amp plugins. I really love my tube amps but the ampsims of the last years are closer than ever. So yeah, this plugin looks really promising as well.
True Iron is a classic. I think it’s one of those plugins you’re only going to appreciate if you’ve worked with real transformers. They’re pretty subtle at the input levels typically used on analog gear running through them. But it adds up and adds life to tracks.
Great video. After seeing your M/S distortion epiphany here, I'd love to see a deep dive into using M/S distortion on channels and groups in the mix using this and/or FabFilter Volcano 3.
Sounds really great! When driving more into, it sounds like.. there is a 20Hz Tremolo volume effect on the distortion effect. Sounds like fluttering with 20Hz.
it emulates the purple face Vulture, so the ultra vulture.. that's why there is an additional Pentode-setting. I like it too, but it's still pretty expensive if you buy it on its own. Also I want to add, that while it's nice to have mid/side options, it would also be nice to have the OPTION to process the left slighty(or obviously..) different than the right channel. Sure, you can still do that with metaplugin and other workarounds.. but just offer it in the plugin directly - wouldn't be difficult and wouldn't take much space on the GUI at all.
The Arturia FX are the only skeuomorphic GUIs I love right now. I can’t explain it, but they are balancing “resembles hardware” with “controls great on a computer” really really well. I get fast results with them and a nice feeling while doing it 🤷♂️
It's very difficult to emulate realistic distortion due to its random nature, but this is very convincing. I think we're entering a new era of plugin authenticity.
Distortion is fully deterministic. The problem lies not in the randomness. The problem is that many plug-ins model model non-linearity as a static thing. Whereas real world non-linearity is a dynamical thing. To accurately model non-linearities you need to model the non-linear differential equation. That is incredibly hard if you still want to provide the users with some input (i.e. provide tunable saturation curve).
but all of their plugins except this one are 100% aliasing, which makes them unusable in mixbus processing. Can't wait for upgrade, as they're all really good sounding
@@FredDeMassiveAlambic yeah, PluginDoctor says Pre V76 starts aliasing at about +40.2 db gain. Before it's perfectly fine. The incoming signal was at unity level so plenty of headroom for alias free coloration.
Every time I get excited about a plug-in I realize airwindows already makes something similar and it always sounds better. And it’s free. Still I’m tempted. It then I realize I have a bunch of cool analog gear. But still I’m tempted.
Sounds initially like el84 distortion . . but when you listen to it, you realize it's static distortion. It doesn't really follow the sounds but levels. On a real tube amp the distortion modulates more or less based on the note on top of the level, so. This just adds a static layer of distortion, not tube distortion. But I'm glad you're happy with it.
I don't hear any static thing in this plugin. It's obviously distorting more the lows than the mids (or highs), and without any scientific test (I must admit) I've got impression that it respects the transients and dynamics much more than other similar stuff (like Decapitator or HG2) while still saturating a lot... It quickly became my new favorite distortion plugin... But because I never used a Culture Vulture hardware, I may be wrong in thinking this is an amazing emulation...
@@tzotchisz It has one sound which it adds based on the level, not based on the sound that goes through it. Ofc my bias might be calibrated wrong as I've owned actual tube gear and expect stuff to sound like it 🤷♂️
I think this plugin sounds amazing I purchased it the day it came out .. I could care less if it perfectly emulates hardware as long as it sounds good and I can use it .. which I have and still plan too .. I guess that's all that matters
I bought the whole »FX Collection 3« from Arturia a few days after it has been released (just because they made such a good price for me ... it's just insane). And I played JUST AND ONLY with the »Dist Tube-Culture« so far (aside from the »Fx Fragments« which I already owned beforehand). Actually for me it (currently) is the most interesting PlugIn in the whole collection. I was just about to buy a distinct distortion-unit as an outboard-gear ... but playing with this is way more handy. So very coincidence. 🙂
It'd be awesome if you get a chance to give the Softube M.A.S. Overstayer the once over. It's the other saturation effect I'm interested in. They have a demo ... and they've preempted you in adding auto-gain features ;) It's expensive though. Empirical Labs Arouser (a Distressor type processor) would be very interesting too. Always wanted these, and the Culture Vulture too, but couldn't afford the hardware.
Arturia are well known for their instrument plugins. I’ve heard good things about their emulations of the Yamaha DX7 and Fairlight CMI among others. Their hardware on other hand…. a bit mixed in quality to some. I see them mostly as a software company that makes decent synth emulations.
GUI is good IMO, its familiar, clearly labelled easy to use. I think either this sort of gui that looks realistic but still functional works well for me or a flat clean look like Ableton & unfiltered Audio. If they go for a clean perfect design it would look worse for this sort of realistic gui design IMO. Denise audio gui that you seem to like are not well designed imo because its not clear what's going on.
i know you are always kind of down on analog-looking plugins, but I have to say that psychologically it works on me (unfortunately)! For example, Izotope has a vintage-style compressor that looks like their other plug ins, but 9/10 times I will grab a waves CLA compressor or a vintage-looking Arturia compressor and I am not even sure if they sound any better then Izotope's! I have never really done a shootout. Long story, short, as long as there are people out there like me, there will be snake oil UIs. And that is why your videos are a good splash of cold water to the face.
I love good distortion plugins! Wytse, you should definitely try Black Box Analog Design HG-2 MS by Plugin Alliance. Also a tube distortion box. I love it to bits.
Compare it to the original Black Box plugin from Plugin Alliance as well. Curious if the emulation was improved or is the MS version the same algorithm but with more features
@@lindsaywebb1904 Yes, but that was the original HG2 plugin. The new MS version has quite a few new features including frequency selectieve saturation.
The more I watch your posts, the more I learn about my lack of discerning ears. Which is good; you pick up on very small cues/effects that I miss entirely at first, then I can slowly tune in to them. IRL? I crank everything up to 11 to see what effect it has, then dial it back to get where I need to be. I've seen you do that at times but yeah; you're a better mixing engineer than I can ever hope to become...
It's all about developing your ears! A year ago I couldn't figure out 2dB level differences, and now I'm regularly adjusting by 0.5dB. What can be helpful especially when figuring out a new plugin is to put your mouse over the bypass button, close your eyes, click until you lose track of what's on and off, and then A/B. I use it all the time to sanity check myself!
@@evieatarax so true. I use a trackball mouse, which is helpful to just smash the bypass until I loose track without moving the cursor in the process lol
i really love that rumble you get, like the lows start getting "shaky" if that makes sense... like, i have a lot of free distortion plugins, what of i remember prob ozone9 had an exciter section where there are different types of saturation up to 4 bands individually, but outside of that only one, i would really enjoy this on my master like between my sub comp and end limiter, just to make the end product sound more sexy. maybe something like 4drive, bias idk, Tmode, and mix on 50% or lower. thats what i can only imagine of for now...
in my opinion, uad has some of the best distortion modeling. just in the distortion itself. distorting the sides in a subtle way is similar to exciters, as high frequencies usually are at the sides.
I've been distorting just the side channels using the drive knob on pulsar's Massive Passive eq recently. I found that distorting the mids was killing the transients on my drums so being able to saturate mid and side separately came in handy.
Just tried the Arturia plugin. What I've come to hear is that it does a really good job at warming up a signal/ subtle saturation. This was the same exact impression that I had of the UAD Culture Vulture, so I compared the 2 plugins. Here are my thoughts: The UAD culture vulture sounds richer. Especially on bass guitar. I was getting a fuller tone compared to arturia's plugin. However, Arturia does offer more versatility with mid/side processing, tilt eq, presence vs. air, etc... so I can't really decide on one being the clear winner. If I remove the Arturia paramters from the equation, UAD wins hands down. However, if I include the Arturia parameters, then I can't really make a comparison with UAD. UAD simply cannot do all of the things that Arturia's plugin can do. That being said, I may just be able to combine a different plugin with UAD to get the tilt EQ and mid side processing and so on and so forth. And then I would technically get a better result and can match whatever I am doing with Arturia. But this leads to a more complicated and less convenient workflow. So I don't know. I guess I am undecided on this one.
My favourite distortion plugin is the Tone Empire Goliath V1. Sadly they no longer sell it, but if you want extremes... never found anything remotely close... they sadly discontinued it.
It’s pretty easy to understand why people purchasing an analog emulation would like it to look and feel like the emulation it’s modeling. Not sure why any one wanting an in the box hardware emulation would want to have a totally different modern interface, confusing anyone familiar with the actual hardware in favor of young blood that wants flashy lights and disco balls. I guess maybe if it’s a common emulation maybe try something different, but the culture vulture emulations especially are fairly rare.
Sounds great. I'm only just using Decapitator! Bought years ago and forgot I had it. Been using trash2 for years or just a simple spline based wave shaper for almost all my distortion until now. Might have to try this too!
Overloud Sculptube is also a culture vulture and cpu economic as fuck. You should check it. Im just passing this one from arturia without even demoing it because i know things are kinda heavy and i love sculptube
What do you think of Audiority Pyros. This thing can get heavy fast, but I think when used lightly, you can achieve similar vibes. The UI is a bit more complex, but this allows more tweaking. Would love to see you review it.
If I didn't already own the Elysia Karakter plugin, which is fantastic as well, I might consider this. But either/or won't make a difference in the end.
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I am always here for the anti-skeuomorphism commentary.
This is made to use very subtle...but its beautiful...this and the, thier reveb, delays and diod compressor...I believe are AT....best effect plugins.....
I compared this to the real unit, the culture vulture Super 15. Unfortunately, the hardware sounds a lot different than the plugin. Plugin is still very usable though!
Ah jeez, another failure at a Culture Vulture plugin. I have 2 Vultures, the 20th Anniversary special edition and a custom Vulture Mastering Plus, and neither of them get crunchy in that way on the triode setting, it's much more subtle. The triode setting is basically JUST even harmonic distortion, so it's always very musical. The pentode 2 and 3 settings are the ones that really start to warp sounds, but the only time it ever reduces to crunchy noise is if you starve the tube bias in pentode modes. The bias switch also behaves much differently. I would love if somebody actually came out with a much more accurate sounding Vulture plugin that has M/S encoding and other digital advantages, but I dont think we're there yet. I will have to do my own back to back test of the real Vultures versus the plugin versions. The UAD one is just massive snake oil. At least this one still gives you some interesting distortion effects, but the real Vulture is such a useful mastering tool because of its subtlety, especially the Mastering+ version. I can't say this plugin sounds anything like the real Vulture in its more subtle settings, but the more extreme settings on the plugin are what really gives it away the most in terms of comparing to the hardware. It's alot more versatile than a simple distortion box. Plugin makers are so massively hit-or-miss when it comes to modeling tube or passive gear.
Can it even be used subtlely or is that not the point of this one? Ok...i do see a mix knob. But when you first turned it on it sorry seemed way too distorted to use on anything besides individual tracks.
Very nice! Wonder would it still sound OK with lower oversampling? Did you (could you?) try it? Regardless, it's a nice software distortion but I could not justify the price if it does not come with matching rack screws. 🤣
CoooOOLL really like it on "SANDSTORM" ;-) actually... And F°#12 SHooT !!! you do have auto gain and the mid/side surprise so keep away from the sratches you've seen which is absolutly nothing regarding the sound it gives... Thank YOU!!! looking at it seriously especially for sound and mid/side!!!
When you clicked to process SIDES, it felt like you were also processing both side and some weird things in middle were happening, maybe my ears are just fooling me tho.
I always wonder how much of teh difference is retained after youtube compression. I know if i export a song as mp3 it sounds so different and then when i upload it somewhere it sounds alot different again. Two additional layers of compression.
I would love to see a video on how you use mid-side processing in your mastering workflow!
Yes!
Yes please!
And "Kelvin" of course...
I would love to see this too.
I sometimes use the plugin versions of the manley stanley vari mu or the shadow hills mastering comp (the newer red version from plugin alliance), and I like to use brainworx v3 EQ for mastering (all 3 of these have mid/side processing). The way I approach mid/side during mastering is not all that different from stereo. The difference is that I am mastering the mid and mastering the sides differently. So it's basically like mastering twice vs. with stereo I am just mastering once (since I just do the same thing to both the left and right).
i love the vintage touch Arturia adds to their plugins, making me feel like i use an old reused gear :]
Agreed.
Also been distorting only mid or side for years with my own routing inside the DAW. Super good technique for roughing something up considerably while still keeping it's spatial clarity on the sides. Or vice versa!
The new dist plugins (both!) made me rebuy Arturia FX collection ;) great job by Arturia
The smoothest rendition of Sandstorm I've ever heard 👍🏿
I love tis track, Darude never disappoints
Just got the fx collection 3 and I’m blown away. Will be using this and many of the other plugins on everything
My crossover price was only 99 euros, a steal!
I have the original hardware and did a comparison with the plugin a couple of weeks ago. I was very curious, because I like the Arturia plugins. With their plugin you get the same character (if you don't push it to hard). You don't get the same clarity and definition. But that's the case with most distortion emulations. It's definitly no snake oil. The character is there.
Why do you think that is?
@@chinor3999 Paul Third made an interesting video about plugin saturation vs hardware saturation. I think that video shows one reason. The other reason is that the Culture Vulture is all tubes sound. No solid state parts are in it. Tubes are very difficult to emulate.
th-cam.com/video/ShH6yqAuK7g/w-d-xo.html
Possibly something to do with oversampling...?
@@musician1971a can't remember if there is oversampling available on the plugin. But if a plugin has oversampling, I always activate that option. But to my ears even oversampling does not bring plugins to the same sonic quality as analog gear. There's only one plugin in my arsenal which I often prefer over hardware. That's the Kotelnikov GE compressor. But that's not an emulation.
You said you prefer the kotelnikov. Just being curious, why do you prefer it over hardware sir?
Arturia has been crushing it with the FX lately. It’s surprising because their soft synths are hit and miss for me. All quality just rarely best in show. But these effects? I keep coming back to them. Great sounding, fast and easy to use while simultaneously giving me all the control I need. I also recently had an issue with their software center and support fixed it within 24 hours. Happy customer over here
I bought their Pre 1973 plugin. I thought it sounded super good, silky smooth, then tried the Waves version, I thought it was meh and could get harsh really quickly as well as the IK version. Am sticking with Arturia. Which others have you tried that you feel are superb?
@@the-real-rabizzlethedoctor all the compressors are wonderful. The 76 and VCA get used constantly in my projects. The Trident Pre is my favorite of the pres. It just works on nearly everything. I wouldn’t say it’s the “best” out there but I also use the spring reverb a lot. It sounds great on guitar. I love the new Sansamp one too. Never use it on guitar like you’d think, it’s a parrallel crunch machine on bass/drums/synth :)
I really feel like saturation/distortion plugins really started to level up about the last couple of years. I remember how much I enjoyed Kazrog True iron the first time really thinking "this is a new era".
Same with the distortion in guitar amp plugins. I really love my tube amps but the ampsims of the last years are closer than ever.
So yeah, this plugin looks really promising as well.
Kazrog True Iron, the only plugin I have and does sound like true analog for me ..
Kazrog True Iron and Black Box HG-2 both became the first tools I reach for
True Iron is a classic. I think it’s one of those plugins you’re only going to appreciate if you’ve worked with real transformers. They’re pretty subtle at the input levels typically used on analog gear running through them. But it adds up and adds life to tracks.
Great video. After seeing your M/S distortion epiphany here, I'd love to see a deep dive into using M/S distortion on channels and groups in the mix using this and/or FabFilter Volcano 3.
Sounds really great! When driving more into, it sounds like.. there is a 20Hz Tremolo volume effect on the distortion effect. Sounds like fluttering with 20Hz.
I think the track you are using in the example is called Sandstorm by Darude. I could be wrong though.
Suzanne Vega
it emulates the purple face Vulture, so the ultra vulture.. that's why there is an additional Pentode-setting. I like it too, but it's still pretty expensive if you buy it on its own. Also I want to add, that while it's nice to have mid/side options, it would also be nice to have the OPTION to process the left slighty(or obviously..) different than the right channel. Sure, you can still do that with metaplugin and other workarounds.. but just offer it in the plugin directly - wouldn't be difficult and wouldn't take much space on the GUI at all.
Some people (like me) like the analog interfaces on plugins. It's fun to use
I've only played with this a bit, but think it sounds pretty good and the whole effects collection package has some really useful plugins.
again: The Interfaces Arturia does are TOUCH friendly and i like to look at them. AND the bundle is much better value.
The Arturia FX are the only skeuomorphic GUIs I love right now. I can’t explain it, but they are balancing “resembles hardware” with “controls great on a computer” really really well. I get fast results with them and a nice feeling while doing it 🤷♂️
Shoutout to Pulsar: I think they are designing some of these and their plugins have been the pinnacle of this design philosophy lately :)
@@mrnelsonius5631 Baby audio crystalline is my UI fav currently of plugins. BITWIG for daws
@@mrnelsonius5631 How do you feel about the SSL plugins?
I personally like them both
@@parboilrice which SSL plugins? I didn’t think any of the Arturia ones were modeling Ssl gear
Softube's overstayer is one of the better distortion plugins ive tried..
softube are one of the best
Softube Analog Harmonics and Plugin Alliance Elysia Karacter best 2 to me..
It's very difficult to emulate realistic distortion due to its random nature, but this is very convincing. I think we're entering a new era of plugin authenticity.
Distortion is fully deterministic. The problem lies not in the randomness. The problem is that many plug-ins model model non-linearity as a static thing. Whereas real world non-linearity is a dynamical thing. To accurately model non-linearities you need to model the non-linear differential equation. That is incredibly hard if you still want to provide the users with some input (i.e. provide tunable saturation curve).
Arturia is a really cool brand
Arturia FX are AWESOME. My go tu emolations.
Arturia simply is a step ahead in their simulations.
but all of their plugins except this one are 100% aliasing, which makes them unusable in mixbus processing. Can't wait for upgrade, as they're all really good sounding
@@FredDeMassiveAlambic yeah, PluginDoctor says Pre V76 starts aliasing at about +40.2 db gain. Before it's perfectly fine. The incoming signal was at unity level so plenty of headroom for alias free coloration.
@@troeteimarsch admit I never tried this one, but I'm talking about mixbus units, such as compressors or Sitral EQ which are 100% mirroring
Every time I get excited about a plug-in I realize airwindows already makes something similar and it always sounds better. And it’s free. Still I’m tempted. It then I realize I have a bunch of cool analog gear. But still I’m tempted.
😂😂😂😂😂😂DITTO!!!!!
Sounds initially like el84 distortion . . but when you listen to it, you realize it's static distortion. It doesn't really follow the sounds but levels. On a real tube amp the distortion modulates more or less based on the note on top of the level, so. This just adds a static layer of distortion, not tube distortion. But I'm glad you're happy with it.
I don't hear any static thing in this plugin. It's obviously distorting more the lows than the mids (or highs), and without any scientific test (I must admit) I've got impression that it respects the transients and dynamics much more than other similar stuff (like Decapitator or HG2) while still saturating a lot... It quickly became my new favorite distortion plugin... But because I never used a Culture Vulture hardware, I may be wrong in thinking this is an amazing emulation...
@@tzotchisz It has one sound which it adds based on the level, not based on the sound that goes through it. Ofc my bias might be calibrated wrong as I've owned actual tube gear and expect stuff to sound like it 🤷♂️
I've been a big fan of Arturia's FX since their preamps
Same here, love the 1973-Pre
@@the-real-rabizzlethedoctor yup, love it!
I love the sound of that condenser mic so Much.
Hey Wytze, I hope you’ll do a review of Arturia’s ColdFire dual distortion vst!😊
I think Overloud Gem makes a version of this too called "Sculptube." The controls look almost identical, at any rate.
I think this plugin sounds amazing I purchased it the day it came out .. I could care less if it perfectly emulates hardware as long as it sounds good and I can use it .. which I have and still plan too .. I guess that's all that matters
I bought the whole »FX Collection 3« from Arturia a few days after it has been released (just because they made such a good price for me ... it's just insane). And I played JUST AND ONLY with the »Dist Tube-Culture« so far (aside from the »Fx Fragments« which I already owned beforehand). Actually for me it (currently) is the most interesting PlugIn in the whole collection. I was just about to buy a distinct distortion-unit as an outboard-gear ... but playing with this is way more handy. So very coincidence. 🙂
Try the other dist plugin, it's just as awesome :)
@@jarosawcibora8690 Of course I will! ☺
Track is "Superstar" by The Carpenters.....i think...🤔
It'd be awesome if you get a chance to give the Softube M.A.S. Overstayer the once over. It's the other saturation effect I'm interested in. They have a demo ... and they've preempted you in adding auto-gain features ;) It's expensive though. Empirical Labs Arouser (a Distressor type processor) would be very interesting too. Always wanted these, and the Culture Vulture too, but couldn't afford the hardware.
Arturia are well known for their instrument plugins. I’ve heard good things about their emulations of the Yamaha DX7 and Fairlight CMI among others. Their hardware on other hand…. a bit mixed in quality to some. I see them mostly as a software company that makes decent synth emulations.
Dont dismiss the Polybrute. It is outstanding,.
waves distortion plugins + their multimod to house them. love em. fruity love filter has nice distortion too.
Very nice, I was on the hunt for a new saturation/distortion plugin and I dig this one.
I love Arturia! ✨✨
the gear you love the most is the gear you use the most, and all of that use causes it to get scratched up.
Sounds and looks like an great plugin, thanks for the video!
Also the compressor gate option is cool, pentode 3 is def special
Amidst all the distortion plugins suddenly popular recently, playing a few moments with this and I was hooked. The Dist OPAMP 21 is also fab!
GUI is good IMO, its familiar, clearly labelled easy to use. I think either this sort of gui that looks realistic but still functional works well for me or a flat clean look like Ableton & unfiltered Audio. If they go for a clean perfect design it would look worse for this sort of realistic gui design IMO. Denise audio gui that you seem to like are not well designed imo because its not clear what's going on.
Sounds tight. I can hear this replacing a few of the tape emulations I like for sure. Thanks for the video.
i know you are always kind of down on analog-looking plugins, but I have to say that psychologically it works on me (unfortunately)! For example, Izotope has a vintage-style compressor that looks like their other plug ins, but 9/10 times I will grab a waves CLA compressor or a vintage-looking Arturia compressor and I am not even sure if they sound any better then Izotope's! I have never really done a shootout. Long story, short, as long as there are people out there like me, there will be snake oil UIs. And that is why your videos are a good splash of cold water to the face.
i disagree with everything you said
@@nepntzerZer i respect that.
Hahahaha I lost it here man! 7:20
Home planet hahahaha.
This and the objectivity in your videos is the reason I love your content.
Keep pushing Wytse!
I love good distortion plugins! Wytse, you should definitely try Black Box Analog Design HG-2 MS by Plugin Alliance. Also a tube distortion box. I love it to bits.
Compare it to the original Black Box plugin from Plugin Alliance as well. Curious if the emulation was improved or is the MS version the same algorithm but with more features
Pretty sure he did that. Good results
The new HG MS is better in every way. They spent a long time getting it right.
@@lindsaywebb1904 Yes, but that was the original HG2 plugin. The new MS version has quite a few new features including frequency selectieve saturation.
The more I watch your posts, the more I learn about my lack of discerning ears. Which is good; you pick up on very small cues/effects that I miss entirely at first, then I can slowly tune in to them. IRL? I crank everything up to 11 to see what effect it has, then dial it back to get where I need to be. I've seen you do that at times but yeah; you're a better mixing engineer than I can ever hope to become...
It's all about developing your ears! A year ago I couldn't figure out 2dB level differences, and now I'm regularly adjusting by 0.5dB. What can be helpful especially when figuring out a new plugin is to put your mouse over the bypass button, close your eyes, click until you lose track of what's on and off, and then A/B. I use it all the time to sanity check myself!
@@evieatarax exactly the same
@@evieatarax so true. I use a trackball mouse, which is helpful to just smash the bypass until I loose track without moving the cursor in the process lol
Damn, super interesting plug-in! I love the UAD Culture Vulture on basslines and stuff! I'll check it out for sure.
i really love that rumble you get, like the lows start getting "shaky" if that makes sense... like, i have a lot of free distortion plugins, what of i remember prob ozone9 had an exciter section where there are different types of saturation up to 4 bands individually, but outside of that only one, i would really enjoy this on my master like between my sub comp and end limiter, just to make the end product sound more sexy. maybe something like 4drive, bias idk, Tmode, and mix on 50% or lower. thats what i can only imagine of for now...
in my opinion, uad has some of the best distortion modeling. just in the distortion itself. distorting the sides in a subtle way is similar to exciters, as high frequencies usually are at the sides.
I've been distorting just the side channels using the drive knob on pulsar's Massive Passive eq recently. I found that distorting the mids was killing the transients on my drums so being able to saturate mid and side separately came in handy.
How does this stack up against UAD's official emulation of the Vulture? Anyone compared them?
Just tried the Arturia plugin. What I've come to hear is that it does a really good job at warming up a signal/ subtle saturation. This was the same exact impression that I had of the UAD Culture Vulture, so I compared the 2 plugins. Here are my thoughts:
The UAD culture vulture sounds richer. Especially on bass guitar. I was getting a fuller tone compared to arturia's plugin. However, Arturia does offer more versatility with mid/side processing, tilt eq, presence vs. air, etc... so I can't really decide on one being the clear winner.
If I remove the Arturia paramters from the equation, UAD wins hands down. However, if I include the Arturia parameters, then I can't really make a comparison with UAD. UAD simply cannot do all of the things that Arturia's plugin can do. That being said, I may just be able to combine a different plugin with UAD to get the tilt EQ and mid side processing and so on and so forth. And then I would technically get a better result and can match whatever I am doing with Arturia. But this leads to a more complicated and less convenient workflow. So I don't know. I guess I am undecided on this one.
You should do a review on the focusrite fast balancer. It’s just released. It’s not really searchable but it’s there. It’s amazing
I just bought it and ....just erased decapitator and blackbox. This olugin really is a gem
My favourite distortion plugin is the Tone Empire Goliath V1. Sadly they no longer sell it, but if you want extremes... never found anything remotely close... they sadly discontinued it.
It’s pretty easy to understand why people purchasing an analog emulation would like it to look and feel like the emulation it’s modeling.
Not sure why any one wanting an in the box hardware emulation would want to have a totally different modern interface, confusing anyone familiar with the actual hardware in favor of young blood that wants flashy lights and disco balls.
I guess maybe if it’s a common emulation maybe try something different, but the culture vulture emulations especially are fairly rare.
Sounds great. I'm only just using Decapitator! Bought years ago and forgot I had it. Been using trash2 for years or just a simple spline based wave shaper for almost all my distortion until now. Might have to try this too!
Decapitator has always the Vulture Culture Inside ;) - that's the T (Triode) and P (Pentode) Modus
That... Actually does sound good. Impressive.
I def heard something different in this plug I hadn’t heard in my other stuff.
I really love the other distortion they released. it's less about subtlelty but it works wonders
Damn, this one actually sounds pretty good
Tomato Storm!
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A video for Lounge Day? Sounds chill 🙂
Their fx are amazing, but far too cpu heavy for me unfortunately 😢
Overloud Sculptube is also a culture vulture and cpu economic as fuck. You should check it. Im just passing this one from arturia without even demoing it because i know things are kinda heavy and i love sculptube
What do you think of Audiority Pyros. This thing can get heavy fast, but I think when used lightly, you can achieve similar vibes. The UI is a bit more complex, but this allows more tweaking. Would love to see you review it.
Sorry to say that but the ads are really abusive
I want a video about that “list” of future investments 😬😬😬
If I didn't already own the Elysia Karakter plugin, which is fantastic as well, I might consider this. But either/or won't make a difference in the end.
I am always here for the anti-skeuomorphism commentary.
I have this and the UAD version. The UAD version is pretty awesome.
Nice !!! Are you going to review the rest?
How do you want to replicate vintage equipment without vintage scratches?! 😂🤣😂
This is made to use very subtle...but its beautiful...this and the, thier reveb, delays and diod compressor...I believe are AT....best effect plugins.....
I compared this to the real unit, the culture vulture Super 15. Unfortunately, the hardware sounds a lot different than the plugin. Plugin is still very usable though!
M/S saturation isn't new, the Black Box can do it too (and it sounds way better)
Ah jeez, another failure at a Culture Vulture plugin. I have 2 Vultures, the 20th Anniversary special edition and a custom Vulture Mastering Plus, and neither of them get crunchy in that way on the triode setting, it's much more subtle. The triode setting is basically JUST even harmonic distortion, so it's always very musical. The pentode 2 and 3 settings are the ones that really start to warp sounds, but the only time it ever reduces to crunchy noise is if you starve the tube bias in pentode modes.
The bias switch also behaves much differently. I would love if somebody actually came out with a much more accurate sounding Vulture plugin that has M/S encoding and other digital advantages, but I dont think we're there yet.
I will have to do my own back to back test of the real Vultures versus the plugin versions. The UAD one is just massive snake oil. At least this one still gives you some interesting distortion effects, but the real Vulture is such a useful mastering tool because of its subtlety, especially the Mastering+ version. I can't say this plugin sounds anything like the real Vulture in its more subtle settings, but the more extreme settings on the plugin are what really gives it away the most in terms of comparing to the hardware.
It's alot more versatile than a simple distortion box. Plugin makers are so massively hit-or-miss when it comes to modeling tube or passive gear.
Bandpassed distortion and to some extent m/s distortion is really big in sound design. I think thats why its there.
Can it even be used subtlely or is that not the point of this one? Ok...i do see a mix knob. But when you first turned it on it sorry seemed way too distorted to use on anything besides individual tracks.
Very nice! Wonder would it still sound OK with lower oversampling? Did you (could you?) try it? Regardless, it's a nice software distortion but I could not justify the price if it does not come with matching rack screws. 🤣
CoooOOLL really like it on "SANDSTORM" ;-) actually... And F°#12 SHooT !!! you do have auto gain and the mid/side surprise so keep away from the sratches you've seen which is absolutly nothing regarding the sound it gives... Thank YOU!!! looking at it seriously especially for sound and mid/side!!!
I think the track is called Sand Blizzard.... nah something still doesn't feel quite right about that. 🤣🤣
When you clicked to process SIDES, it felt like you were also processing both side and some weird things in middle were happening, maybe my ears are just fooling me tho.
cheers
I Love Arturia
OH u used tornado word instead wind ^^ is it connected to tornado visit Netherlands couple days ago?
Why does the interface makes me think about Decapitator ? Is it inspired from the same unit ?
I always wonder how much of teh difference is retained after youtube compression. I know if i export a song as mp3 it sounds so different and then when i upload it somewhere it sounds alot different again. Two additional layers of compression.
or use overloud sculptube if you want to save cpu. 😏
Distortion on saxophone. Did this ever work?
Darude - Sandstorm, a classic. I'm surprised nobody recognised that song
Suzanne Vega
song was darude by sandstorm
Hahahahahha 😂
Thanks! Was looking for that song every time i watched a white sea studio vst review!
@@JanBadertscher no problem :)
how many more dist and sat plugins do we need? LOL!
You didn't think about mid/side saturation before ?!? Go back on Volcano 2 and you will be mad about the huge possibilities that it give you ;)
WHY ARE YOUR EYEs GLOWING...? what color is this.. blue.. GREEN? BOTH?.. HELP me pls
07:20 is that a Gabber reference? ^^
Music from my home planet 😂
@11:09 "embargoed email" ? A banned email from Arturia ?
I like it already beat up
That sounds like Im buying a present for my girlfriend
Please, feel free to buy it from the Arturia store, if you don't mind risking having money stolen from your bank account!