Simply reacts to "The Biggest Cheating Scandal in Trackmania History"

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  • What do you think?
    Here, I (Simply) witness an a beautifully put together video, "The Biggest Cheating Scandal in Trackmania History". Trackmania speedrunning has been around practically as long as the game has been out, however, the leaderboards have some controversy. Wirtual explains the Trackmania controversy in great detail and I give my own take on it. Most of it is centered around Riolu (RioluTM) who holds many Trackmania World Records. This is certainly a great scandal, and a great speedrunning controversy. I'm glad to have been able to react to these speedrun lore videos. I think there's a lot to be learned. Okay bye now
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ความคิดเห็น • 123

  • @dylancam812
    @dylancam812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    Cheating? I wouldn’t dream of it

  • @VeritasGames
    @VeritasGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    Nothing the legend Karl Jobst does is ever boring

    • @TurboChad2423
      @TurboChad2423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Didn’t expect to see you here (:

    • @RyanBurnsinator
      @RyanBurnsinator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      damn, a real legend of tarkov here in the comments of a simply video. Thanks for battle buddy btw

    • @ilikelemons2197
      @ilikelemons2197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This isnt karl

    • @bigannoyingbanana1365
      @bigannoyingbanana1365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Didn’t watch past intro kek

  • @dansnell5774
    @dansnell5774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Honestly I think Riolu shot himself in the foot when he called the message “blackmail”. Blackmail implies that there is a secret that Wirtual is holding over Riolu that Riolu doesn’t want to get out. He basically admitted that he had something to hide.

    • @Reptile_Gecko
      @Reptile_Gecko ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Definitely, especially since the message was in no way blackmail, and in no way threatened a secret, so saying it was blackmail either shows he had something to hide, or simply has no idea what blackmail is.

    • @ObstagoonGuy
      @ObstagoonGuy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Reptile_Gecko the latter obviously as he's not a native speaker

    • @PurpleCh4lk
      @PurpleCh4lk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People using words they have absolutely no idea what they mean? Shocking :D

  • @stragetaco7236
    @stragetaco7236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    I love the hive mind that is Simply’s chat. Cheating is mentioned, and they all start talking about dream and simply’s wr

    • @Phabrysio
      @Phabrysio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why Simply's wr? Just trolling

    • @IronicHavoc
      @IronicHavoc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Pretty much every chat mentions Dream when cheating is brought up now. And simply's chat is always memeing about his WR in some way.

  • @TrebleWing
    @TrebleWing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I'm so glad that he went with W's vid and not Jobst. While I really love Karl, I like seeing more unknown creators get the spotlight when it is well deserved.

    • @Adam_P_Wood
      @Adam_P_Wood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No brainer really jobst Doesn’t play it at that high of a level I guess

    • @tanini56
      @tanini56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but wirtual has 454k subs

    • @tanini56
      @tanini56 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @SkewdGodpl i know

    • @TheStyler2710
      @TheStyler2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I really like Karl Jobst and was pretty hyped when he announced that he is working on a video about the Trackmania cheating scandal. But half of his video is not talking about cheating but rather how much he enjoyed playing trackmania and how hard A01 is.

    • @ObstagoonGuy
      @ObstagoonGuy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheStyler2710 yeah, but I actually liked that. Whoever plays TrackMania watches Wirtual anyway and Karl has a way bigger audience that is mostly US American and probably does not know about TrackMania. So it was basically him presenting this cheating scandal uncovering as a big deal by telling his audience how prestigious those records are.

  • @SupaSalty
    @SupaSalty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Wait until they find out about the longest trackmania shortcuts

  • @LaCazaLP
    @LaCazaLP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    God i think no one cares if you cheat in a game just to have more fun.
    But the moment you start playing in a Competition you just cant do that shit.

  • @pietateip
    @pietateip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    riolu was such a good streamer vs the rest of TM community, that it's such a shame. Riolu has gone dead silent which is the wrong choice...

    • @Pallidum
      @Pallidum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It really is a shame. I was subscribed to Riolu on youtube when this all happened. If he had just come clean and committed to never cheat again, I would've stayed a subscriber for the legit CotD runs. I would've been disappointed in him, of course, but I would've stayed because I followed him because of his content, not his world records.

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Pallidum would probably do the same

    • @ObstagoonGuy
      @ObstagoonGuy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pallidum Basically everyone else mentioned in the cheating scandal revcovered. I doubt that Riolu would have kept his TMGL spot (at least short term), but he could have at least saved his streaming career.

  • @moshambles
    @moshambles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Wirtual is such a class act. I really wish most youtubers were more like him and less like twats

  • @chanceneck8072
    @chanceneck8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The correct Karl quote actually goes: "Good players don´t cheat to get a faster time! They cheat to get a time faster!"

  • @PaddyRoon7
    @PaddyRoon7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Who cares about me cheating for a decade, what really matters is HUMAN RIGHTS"

  • @clearlyazul
    @clearlyazul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    25:20
    Everybody always ask, "Who's the record holder?"
    Nobody ever asks, "How's the record holder?"
    :(

  • @bird4489
    @bird4489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:06 only seconds before this i remembered I had a near by bag of chips.

  • @markusTegelane
    @markusTegelane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    14:35 those are called skill points and you earn them when you set times in official mode (faster times = more points)

  • @lektornese
    @lektornese 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Some of my friends watch Wirtual and he seems like a fantastic guy. Good video :") also he played with Ludwig!

  • @jappperon7012
    @jappperon7012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Doom original also has a replay where it didnt save the 5replay but saved the keys and such, alway love seeing game use that for sharing.
    once you cheat one run all your other runs should be suspect, only logical.
    even if i dont cheat any WR id have id expect to be under suspect just on principle.

  • @villainx91
    @villainx91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Is Just Cheating a category I can see on Twitch? please?

    • @SushiElemental
      @SushiElemental 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Given that most cheated times were created offline.. maybe create an Offline tag as well? 😃

  • @Bolpat
    @Bolpat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The two top players cheating? Professional bike racing (Tour de France) be like: Bitch please, it's the top eighteen.

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you mean like most cyclists there?

  • @rosenori8345
    @rosenori8345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Like what you were saying at the end, from an outside perspective it seems really easy to admit to cheating. People on the internet might treat it like you're being cancelled I guess, but the illicit records can be scrubbed and bam, the leaderboard is good as new and everyone can move on. It really isn't a death sentence for your career.

    • @ghostdragonzero
      @ghostdragonzero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      true even dream still had old records that were legit and on the leaderboards for older versions. Especially with his hive mind fanbase I don't think it would have changed much at all. What does he even gain from not admitting it? Not having to face the fact that he cheated?

    • @bradleyballinger2027
      @bradleyballinger2027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Riolu has been sponsored by the Ubisoft division that makes track mania games, even setting challenge times in one of them (which were also cheated). It is likely he will never admit to it because it may leave him open to liability from his sponsors. After all, sponsored individuals can be held liable if their actions poorly reflect the company.

  • @misternadra5667
    @misternadra5667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn i was a legit fan of him back in the day, sad to see

  • @SupaSalty
    @SupaSalty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very Play Of The Game

  • @puba6633
    @puba6633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He could just own up to it and continue playing. Why would he go silent thats so stupid

  • @bignerd7683
    @bignerd7683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simply be beasting on that freestyle

  • @lofirabbit4055
    @lofirabbit4055 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love subbing to small creators

  • @mountlet5268
    @mountlet5268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    CHEATING WHO WOULD DIO SUCH A THING

    • @Fishpetter967
      @Fishpetter967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I couldn’t dream of such a thing

  • @Steeldragon493
    @Steeldragon493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did not fucking expect Ryback talking about pogs, holy fuck.
    Regarding his age/look, yeah don't do steroids kids!

  • @lulXXD
    @lulXXD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    is that ecco's e in the background? big fucking respect my guy

  • @LuizFernandopr
    @LuizFernandopr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    riolu is a great player, among the best, and a great streamer. 90% of the work of a professional trackmania player/streamer is live tournaments, not world record hunting. I went back to see if he's back several times after this scandal, and he should. admit it, move on.

  • @fincy645
    @fincy645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it just me or did simply seem a little upset during this video?

    • @SushiElemental
      @SushiElemental 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No it just seems that way, because the YT video is at normal speed but he recorded the reaction at half speed. 😁

  • @Ansel_G
    @Ansel_G 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t know what it is but the guy in the video reminds me of kermit

  • @ZeroSleap
    @ZeroSleap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nah i think this case has more damming evidence than dream's.This one has in game while the run is going evidence of bad inputs.And it's only offline where it can't be verified he is cheating or not.So in riolu's perspective he has the opportunity to do it.The things line up so it makes a stronger case than dream's.

  • @arieltm1193
    @arieltm1193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simply? Trackmania? My dream has come true...

  • @ratio567
    @ratio567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Imagine having such low self esteem to cheat in trackmania

    • @ratio567
      @ratio567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Kelvin no not really

  • @MattBaker-o7
    @MattBaker-o7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait dream cheated in track mania too?

  • @ryananderson9668
    @ryananderson9668 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the freestyle in the beginning has some potential haha

  • @cime62
    @cime62 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    12 ads in 32min waw I cant see more than 2min of videos without an ad 8)

  • @xWinGLP
    @xWinGLP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at least he doesnt eat pizza while he runs :D

  • @Amperrs
    @Amperrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cheaters may know more about a game... you know.... if they actually dont get caught

  • @soju69jinro
    @soju69jinro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    riolu can't confess, if he does... he goes to jail, and permanently banned from video games and computers for life.
    plus his 531 wr replays.

    • @LeTim013
      @LeTim013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Jail?

    • @Perjas31
      @Perjas31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lmao why jail xD

    • @MrHerodoto
      @MrHerodoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He lost all his records already.

    • @lisahenry20
      @lisahenry20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably not jail, but he could potentially be sued for the cheated run he sent to be put into one of the games. It probably depends on what kind of agreement they had.

  • @B_Machine
    @B_Machine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speed running the report in record time I see!

  • @NottAlessandro
    @NottAlessandro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn i love you simply, you're dope af, bars are next level... but goddamn all those ads

  • @ItsJnac
    @ItsJnac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thumbnails the affinity logo from rust server

  • @anthonyc1075
    @anthonyc1075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nah. dreams is not even close as bad. Dream got like 16th on the leader board. Riolu cheated 1000s of times and got 1st on leader boards.

    • @kominatoriku5483
      @kominatoriku5483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If the end portal didnt have 1 less pearl dream would have world record love how he still got fucked by rng

  • @ThePerfectKiosk
    @ThePerfectKiosk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Jobst quote is closer to "cheaters don't cheat to get a fast time, they cheat to get a time fast". This was in reference to RNG-heavy games, where you seldom "get a time" because of resets. It's really not applicable to the Trackmania thing...

    • @Speedster___
      @Speedster___ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      While it does apply to RNG mostly it also impacts TM as let’s say you need to do a very precise turn. SLO mo lets you get a WR pace on that turn 75% of time when usually people of the same skill can only do it 50%. So yes you can cheat to get a good time faster

    • @ThePerfectKiosk
      @ThePerfectKiosk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Speedster___ That's not the issue here. Jobst was misquoted to support an argument he didn't make. That's the issue.

    • @Speedster___
      @Speedster___ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ThePerfectKiosk it still applies and wasn’t taken out of context. And it was in fact prefaced with we never know why Riolu did it but Jobst has said insert quote. It was a possible reason and fits within context.

  • @Miitsu222
    @Miitsu222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drivers license? What for?

  • @q123e5
    @q123e5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice thumbnail my guy

  • @PaddyRoon7
    @PaddyRoon7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The thing that confuses me is the stans. A streamer they enjoy is called out for cheating by Wirtual, so they call him a backstabber, snitch, clout chaser, etc.
    i genuinely don't get the logic, because there is none. It's just gut reaction denial. If they thought about the issue for 30 seconds they'd all realize how stupid they're being.

    • @shademillith
      @shademillith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Riolu jumped in ahead of the report's release, and really slandered Wirtrual in a stream. He also really mislead people on the scope of going on.
      There was very little stan-ing remaining when the report/video came out about it.

    • @PaddyRoon7
      @PaddyRoon7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shademillith That makes a lot more sense lol

  • @zachbrookins
    @zachbrookins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dat voice

  • @dankdread420
    @dankdread420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sheeeshh boy got flow like DaBaby

  • @TheYoungonex
    @TheYoungonex ปีที่แล้ว

    monke

  • @WqDnbY52l0
    @WqDnbY52l0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    yo

  • @chanceneck8072
    @chanceneck8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF?? HOW COME ALL YOU AMERICANS KNOW "WERTHER´S ORIGINALS"???
    *I LIVE IN WERTHER!!!* ....

    • @sportsjefe
      @sportsjefe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They made tons of commercials.

  • @McNab1986
    @McNab1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WAit you look like that blindfolded mario 64 cheater

  • @Finnishmanni
    @Finnishmanni 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    did something happen to babbs and simply?

  • @conkerlive101
    @conkerlive101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These titles feel like they are written for 5 year olds. It would be nice to see something a little more creative and less click baity

    • @weewee2169
      @weewee2169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you may be quite young yourself because as much older and wiser now 23 year old i can tell you the complete trash of this world often becomes more appealing

    • @thealphas1
      @thealphas1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This gotta be a bot comment

    • @weewee2169
      @weewee2169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kelvin you are literally watching a teenager play video games ahahaha get real mr serious

    • @weewee2169
      @weewee2169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kelvin
      that makes no sense, i still dont get how im an oaf watching the trash i want to watch when you are here complaining about it instead of turning it off and doing something else

  • @skyebuh
    @skyebuh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trackmania more like cheatermania ami right guys... guys?

  • @joshualuttrell7269
    @joshualuttrell7269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got enough ads?

  • @EdDrow
    @EdDrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are just three things it's okay to cheat on:
    1.School
    2.Monopoly (or Boardgames in general)
    3.Your nagging girlfriend
    (It's a joke folks)

  • @talkgomilk
    @talkgomilk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You remind me of my father drunk and awkward

  • @BL3446
    @BL3446 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So like this Wurt guy is just a snitch?

  • @dundeedideley1773
    @dundeedideley1773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply, your videos are too long. That's a big reason the views are as low as they are

  • @nuttguzzler4945
    @nuttguzzler4945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've legit never even heard of this game series until Karl's video lol