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- This tutorial is your masterclass on how to get a Noisecontrollers / Headhunterz / Wildstylez type of hardstyle kick. It will show you how to create a Classic Hardstyle Kickdrum from scratch. The video is an in-depth showcase of the process of creating a pitched hardstyle kick.
Plugins used:
Drumazon
FabFilter Pro-Q 2
Izotope Exciter
Logic Pro 9 stock plugins
None of these plugins are must-haves in order to create a good hardstyle kick - in fact, it can be done with any stock plugins.
Keep in mind these effect-chains are not easy to set up (even though I make it look like it) and requires a lot of trial and error in order to achieve a good sound.
I'll recommend having a reference kick/track in the project at all times during the kick-making process.
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That's actually the first tutorial I've ever seen, which actually ends in a usable Hardstyle kick.
agree
Same
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@Leonidas Preston Yea, have been using Instaflixxer for since december myself =)
da daze,, yhimself,, grm-y, manix?
making a hardstyle kick is like the rocketscience of music.
Man you again? 😂😭
100% fax. This one sound takes years to master and comprehend how to make it. Especially the classic hardstyle kicks!
Absolutely ridiculous how much has to go in to make ONE instrument aha. Hardstyle is underappreciated.
That's not what I am saying buddy.
Let's keep it that way so that don't get an oversaturated genre
@Mark Donald all in the eye of beholder. I really dislike future bass, others like it. I love hardstyle, hardcore, and frenchcore. others despise it.
hardstyle producers are swimming in money
it's so overproduced and polished and samey
@@heartache5742 wtf lol? Swimming in money? Headunterz, Wildstylez, Noisecontrollers, maybe, but it's a niche genre so they are making way less than producers of other genres.
the absolutely best kick from all the yt tutorials
Finally a great tutorial in English 😭😭🙌🏻 MVP
the downside of not being born in the netherlands lol
Nice kick Tut. Being able to visualize the number of layers needed to make a 909 into a good kick is very helpful!
I just want to say that this tutorial was so well done and has been really helpful, thanks for making this!!
Thanks! I thought the internet was lacking some knowledge on that subject. Glad I could help :) Now happy grinding ;)
Very good kick, tidy and elegant. When this was finished in the tutorial, I could barely distinguish between this and a Frontliner-kick.
not the type of music I make but hella interesting to see what goes into it. Props for an informative video my dude.
finally found a video that shows how to make a hardstyle kick (the other ones sound like they're making one from 2008)
your kick sounds beautiful! I'd love to hear it in a track
It's in my tracks "Time" and "The Earth" ;)
Try these too: heavily compress a bass house kick to where it's powerful but barely distorted, low cut the hardstyle sample slightly and add the bass kick to the punch. Add short reverb to the high punch for a more aggressive tok.
good one, I always do it.. :D
Hmm sounds interesting. Care to do a video on that?
@ ETERNIZE
- How did you add that small crunch layer? Where did you get it from or how was it made? It wasn’t explained.
- Also do you know why when I add more than 7 eq/dist to my 909 the tail sound will start to not change much anymore and becomes more muffled and sound worse the more eq/distortion I add? How do you use so much eq and distortion and your tail just sounds better and better and clear? I tried experimenting so much but still cannot figure it out….
Omg, the automated filters! *lightbulb emoji*
Thanks for the great tutorial. How did you make the "crunch" in track 12 and the punch_low and the punch_High?
Now, thats hardstyle as we like it! Oldschool stuff
NOW I UNDERSTAND why other kicks move so progressively! You earned a sub! Thank You!
Hi Eternize, great tut, how do you handle different notes, for instance, when you want to play along with a melody? Do you repeat this routine in its entirety for every kick? Or is there a faster way? Not that I'm lazy or anything, but would be interesting.
Robert Mint cut the tail of thd kick and pitch the tail. After u done that copy the pitched tail to tok and ur done
The video that so many people needed, but couldn't find. Thank you very much for these guidelines!
yea I like how you use a filter movement...when I use filterbank I love the variation in the sound it makes
Construction of a hardstyle kick can never be tutored any better.... Love u loads ..subbed and pressed the bell 💕💕😍
Nice tutorial and the kick sounds very nice. 10/10
great tutorial mate,, very knowledgeable producer.. thanks
He said at the start this is the only way to do it yet I make my kicks in serum most of the time and the results are much better
Thanks for the great tutorial man 🙏🏻🔥
i like this tutorial. i might want to try this style of kick with speedcore :)
Really nice video.
Keep the tutorials comming!
how did you make the punch? you havent said anything about that after you had split it from the tail. i see you've layered it but i can't figure out how to make it sound like yours.
Great tips. With the extra highend grunch and further sample layering
This is really detailed. Thanks!
what was the note of the kick at the beginning? G4 right?
Will there be a 2024 version of this kick tutorial?
At least i'm not the only one rockin' Logic 9 in 2018 !
Very nice kick tutorial !!!
dude thank you for this! right to the point and clear instructions.
Nice, quick and straight to the point!
Finally a good kick and a good and easy video to follow! Thanks bro now i can finally use drumazon right xD
whoaaahhhh.. the tutorial was great for learning. 🤯🤯
Only thing what is a little tricky for me.. - did u sampled the punch/top part of the kick from same sample? it was really energetic & tricky as well.. best. the best tutorial for guiding about those ground shaking kicks... 🖐
Hi! Could you send me a hq picture of this kick? I want to get it tattooed :)
Very nice well made tut, how are you making the punch parts? more eq, highpass, and distortion?
@Eternize is the punch cut from the whole kick before 2:49?
Do you have to create multiple iterations of the hardstyle kick for different notes or the one you made will sound fine playing the progression? Cause when I tried to use hardstyle bass drum samples and have them go from C to F to G for example it's just doesn't work, sounds terrible, unlike effortless 808s in Trap - you find the root note and it works.
Great tutorial man! I just finished my kick. Sounds promising and I think I need some work on it still. Love this method tho! Thanks again! PS I think we need more details of how you made that punch/tok.
Thanks! A tuturial about Lead layering and mixing (EQ and compression etc.) would also be appreciated!
Great work. I'm going to emulate the above then take that kick in a new direction so it roars like a lion and has a unique tail.
Great tutorial, a few things I don't understand 1) when you have eq's in series cant you just adjust your curves in pro q to get the same as three instances of logic EQ (it has heaps of bands) and why would it suddenly become stereo enough that you need to keep monoizing it?
Hey Eternize. Great tutorial! I just wanna ask you something related. Did you adds plugins in the master chain or latter in the post production of the video (like EQ or exciter)? Because the drumazon at the begining of the video has some 10~12 Khz content that my drumazon doesn't have. I try even to use 96 Khz and the f response is larger, but it doesn't have that hi end boost.
Also, It is possible to make a great kick without logic clip distortion? I'm having a bad time trying without it XD
Nope, nothing on the master or post-processing.
How do u make the “punch”
Fivelementz I think he took it from the distorted drum
Awesome tutorial, short and very informative (y)
Thanks a lot for the great tutorial. One question - after my first distortion, the sound isolated above ~2000 Hz sounds like nothing more than a click but the other frequencies create a sound similar to the one in your video. Is that normal/okay?
a good explanation like to see some ones vision on makeing a kick cause there are so many ways to make one
Please teach us how to do the 2008 kicks !
Interesting way :) I used to take a route closer to this in the past. I'm pretty lazy doe and try to not sample as much. I'm doing things simular to what you do just with different tools. Reason for this is that i don't work stuff so much anymore, trying to do as much as possible with as little as possible as fast as possible. Every time i build something i do it from scratch thus i want it to be simple and fast. Take note that i'm not trying to making any serious music today and only do one season for each project.
do you recommend replacing the sub of the tail?
what version of mac are you on? does this logic work on mojave? im on hp laptop running mojave and logic looks very different to me i dont even have a fx chain
Hey man ive been working on kicks for around 2 years and im starting to get decent results in the root key, ive watched every single tutorial and this one is one of the best out there so thanks a lot. Which method do you use to pitch? Even when i get a almost professional G or F, it still sounds weird in the lower and higher notes :(
Thanks in advance!
There are several methods, and it always depends on the kick - So I would basically try all the below methods out:
- Adobe Audition. Has a really solid pitch bend, with no artifacts (like you will often find in the logic pitch engine).
- Kontakt. Has different modes, 2 of them working well for pitching kicks.
- Any sampler. Depending on the length your kick, you can actually get the cleanest result by putting ur kick in a sampler. Yes this will shorten your kick at higher notes, but there are clever workarrounds.
All of the above options are valid options :)
Eternize thanks man gonna try audition, bc with kontakt theres no way for me it ruins the tail in every algorhytm. Still not happy but until now the best ive tried is the logic engine so... lets try the others
Awesome tutorial bro!
Thank you! very good and informative tutorial! When my kick is finaly done, how can i crearte these crazy pitches without loosing the attack? for example like in Ran-D - Zombie.
keep it up my friend :)
Thanks :)
It's very simple: duplicate your kick and let one of the samples be the pitched kick while the other is staying the same with a highcut.
Thanks for the upload its great help my friend explained very well.. Do you think the aufilter with logic will works as well as the fab filter for taking out the low end freq? . Would u ever consider doing studio session I wud pay a good rate..
Kieran 210 yes, i know for a fact that NC used it/uses it. But I just like the control that an EQ plugin gives you in terms of slope and Q-angle etc. I do private sessions already, just hit me up on facebook/PM me :)
Why mono? does it really sounds better in mono? thanks great video btw
thanks a lot eternize :D
Really good tutorial. The sound of the kick is sexy and crunchy 😉 this will help me a lot. Especially for my raw-kicks i'm workin' on
Could you explain how you layered the punch at 3:00. I always struggle to make a nice punch lol.
You my man, are god!
Thnx a lot man, really cool tutorial. :D
okay, so, I have a few questions. (because how does someone innovate if they don't know what's important, or why)
Why do hardstyle kicks focus on the 500-600hz range early on. I understand cutting the bass for distortion, so you get the harmonics for whatever frequency is peaking, but why that range and not say, 800, or 300? What's the technical reason? 500-600 seems to be around B4 to D#5, but a 909's fundamental is about 52hz, or G#1.... which *roughly* makes the intervals of a minor chord??? Is that actually why though?
And second, further on, what decision is being made to cut or boost any given frequency? is there an ideal frequency curve to follow?
What are the criteria that a kick is judged on for if it's "good" or not?
The 5-600 range is entirely because of the tonality it produces when distorted heavily. It proves great for both the punch and tail of a 2010-year hardstyle kick. Today the range has been expanded to like 5k for more experimental sounding punches, and the tails don't have that typical 5-600hz boosted tonality anymore - for the most part.
Cutting before the distortion = no rules. Do whatever gets you closer to your desired sound.
Cutting after the distortion = balance the kick for optimal loudness and to fit the mix of your track.
@@Eternize so the kick can really just be anything and it doesn't have to sound like a small angry dog barking through a PVC pipe while jumping on a moog, as long as it sounds good. cool.
It's an okay tutorial. Towards the end some of your explanations became pretty vague. One thing is that you forgot to show how to make the "punch" sample
Agreed. I'm stuck in that part. Really need an explanation on that
Man, what a good explanation (and a fucking good kick man)! Love it!
Thank you for this tutorial. My kick sounds great in my opinion, but when I use it in a climax, it feels like the combination of my leads and the kick is not good. It doesn't sound good anymore :( it's not clipping and the only thing provide low freqs is the kick itself. I don't get it
how do you pitch your kicks? do you cut the transient from the tonal part and pitch it then up and down?
LoL i copied the settings exactly but mine still sounds crap... I've tried for hours / days LOL!!! Any chance of project file ?.... btw Thanks all the same this is awesome, better than the other profesional tutorials
Nice tutorial ! 😊
nice kick dude
Man if only this kind of tutorial was available years back when i started producing lol making a hardstyle kick was always impossible for me
What did you do when you say „add more crisp“?
FILO To be honest, the high frequency crunch mentioned @ 4:47 is a heavily lowcutted old kick of mine. As I recall it, I got the effect from blending whitenoise into the kick and overdriving/distorting it as a group. Hope this helps!
/Eternize
good dist!
I thought it looked like he added a chorus to it, thats what it looks like it says anyway
mine turned out to be a pretty nice hardcore kick xD i dont get that symetry distortion sound if you know what i mean... but i think its all a matter of experience
very cool! How did you learn all of that? How long did it take you. I think skills like that are really impressive.
I learned everything on my own. Trial and error my friend :)
And never underestimate good reference tools!
What do you mean when you say "good reference tools"?
Hi great tutorial!
But why my distorted sound always sounds a bit flurry instead of as clear as you shown on the video. I did it step by step but it just sounds different.
I really can't tell :(
I just cant get my kicks sounding as clean as that! I wish I could....
"and another distortion" bro what kind of distortion? Do i have to get exactly what you're getting and copy your settings to use your tutorial?
big boi Tim Clip Distortion on Logic
This is what doesn't really add up to me your main kick after EQ'ing and Distortion should be 80% complete (per a producers judgement) to be fully adjusted when you're splitting the tail and punch so what you basically did was use an incomplete kick then split everything Eq'ed and distorted by doing that you're kinda messing up the signals in the second step but at the same time rectifying things when the only thing that you should've done was go back to the original kick fix the sound to your liking then use a linear phase EQ at the second step by cutting the lows and highs out. So the whole idea of the second step is kick mastering which is what a linear phase is close to doing. I really find the idea of splitting lows and highs a good idea however you are really adding some unnecessary steps because you weren't satisfied with your kick and this creates a lot of confusion. Second step should be the final Step where if you want you could even add reverb add a snare sample for example ,however, there shouldn't be any further Distortion or regular EQ everything adjustment wise on the primary kick should've been done in the first step.
Neither you or I get to choose what steps "should" be incorporated in making a hardstyle kick. Do whatever gets you results..
I love you man
Hey man I have a problem and was hoping you might know the cause. I am currently working on making a kick with that 2012 Headhunterz sound and in my process of making kicks I also use the technique of bouncing the midi to audio to tweak it further. The problem I sometimes have and is happening in this project again is that when I bounce it I lose a little bit of warmth in the kick/character. It sounds very similar but there is a slight difference. Do you know what might cause this? I can share screenshots of the channel strip and busses or send you the project file if you are interested to have a look at it.
Most likely you are beyond 0dB when bouncing. That will change the sound, the more you surpass 0dB the bigger the change. Also check for effects on master channel and check your bounce/quick bounce settings.
@@Eternize Thanks for your response. Going to continue on the kick this weekend and will give it a try! No effects on the master chain so it will probably be the 0dB issue. Which of the quick bounce settings should I be paying attention to that could have an effect? Again many thanks!! These issues can be super frustrating, especially at times when you are making good progress, appreciate it.
@@thijsvandijk6604 You just need to clip it, and then use no normalisation or clip protection.
@@Eternize Letting you know that this together with another setting on an audio effect in my chain solved the problem! Thanks a lot!
Niceee tutorial!
2:51 is the moment you wanna be to compare your punch :)
tried it in fl with Misstortion, made to be identical close to logic's clip dist, still very hard to get something similar
Why don’t you upgrade to pro x? You can turn on advanced features and it’s better than Pro 9
Nice vid, but the EQ’ing is super important. U now just skip it with ‘some more EQ’.
Old School Raw Kick, nice tutorial m8
Hi, tried to follow step by step on FL Studio with Vnom distort instead of Logic one. EQ-ed everything and got more distorted kick which don't sounds as a propper kick pls help
Use this as a guideline - use the concepts, don't replicate it. You'll have to figure out yourself what works and what doesn't :)
Okk thanks boi, i did it
Had to tweak it in multiple and different ways but finally have my own kick
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Very nice kick! Thanks for the tut!
However, it also made me realize how terrible my distortion effects are. They all seem to add a terrible hiss.
That's gonna need some research :)
Any clip distortion will work :)
Distortions ment for "saturation" is another game..
Hiss might be coming from analog emulation software, just like Waves likes to do. It usually simulates a high noise floor like old analog singal path had. This can be benificial in some situations. But if you're having too much 'hiss' you can do that eq automation trick shown in this video to minimize some of it. Or try a good low or wide band pass.
Yeah, I'm using clip distortion but I think the source sound isn't perfect enough.
Good video ! Can you explain the lead of the drop? Please
This is a kick tutorial :)
Yes but you can explain the synth of the drop of this video? He's cool. Please
how about hardstyle tok or punch tutorial
Marvy Rose Pascua it's just percussion layered, distorted and compressed, like some snares
It’s all layering. You made different versions of the kick and EQ them to create your layers. It’s not percussion/snares.
Sphane made mine with percussion, though
You can do it with Percussion, you can do it with the Kick itself. You can even do it with white noise. Using EQ and Distortion you can create many different sounds.. just give any punch character by boosting a definite frequency..
what’s the point of making every new sample mono?
None. Today I wouldn't even mono it after reverb. You live and learn :)
How to make kick with other plugins? I'm on FL and there is no such distortion plugin and I get completely different kick
Buzz Effect Adapter (Legacy) or Waveshaper are really good. Fruity dist also works just fine.
HOW THFCK YOU MADE THAT PUNCH IN 2:49
My Kick allways Sound Like a raw kick. How is this possible?
Great
I'm using Venm as my clip dist and as soon as I set the second one up, it crushes it to shit.