Ryan, your a numbers guy and I like that. You doing the number crunching and putting it out there is the only way statistically that sc can investigate this phenomenon. Algorithm gone apeshit? Kudos for your effort, you da man!
The only thing I can imagine for the difference is that King Kong has spawned on the maps of players who don't actively play (whether that is not logging in at all or just not bothering with their map). You can only have so many bases on your map at once, my guess is similarly you only spawn on so many maps at once. If he is on the map for 20 - 30 players who never play then they wouldn't scout him or raid him. Then those players maps will fill up with the max number of bases they can spawn so other players (ie: you) can't also spawn on that map to not be scouted/raided by them. The only way I can think of to fix the Magic Account issue is for Supercell to cull inactive accounts, but if they are too aggressive with it there will be negative reactions if someone tries to come back.
Very interesting. Thanks for the statistics. I have 2 theories: 1. maybe King Kong has not opened all the clouds on his map or 2. maybe the diamond purchase also plays a secret role in matching.
If you can know how much resources ur account shows in other player's map who raid or scout u, may be magic account scenario will become more clear. Boom beach balances resources player can get per day. One can get resources on that range only ,in particular experience level. This is something to do with resource balance per experience level inbuilt in game code.
Post this on reddit and the discord aswell, this really needs to be brought to attention over and over again until we get a word on it. This is just to drastic to be ignored. SC should atleast be able to give something similiar to an explanation.
Great vid man, and yes my opinion is there is obviously something wrong and sc need fix asap. Also good luck with the rest of comments, u got some serious half wit answers coming your way. 👍😁👍
Based on the numbers it seems like your base is stronger or drawing weaker opponents (*way* more scouts but only slightly more raids). Well done on your base design I suppose?
Holy shit. In my opinion that is totaly unfair! I have heard of strategies, where you constantly keep for example 5 npc bases on your map to get a higher rate of player-invasions. Maybe one of you did that and that effects the rate of scouts? I don't know, but this is atm the only reason i could imagine...
Interesting all this "magic accounts" stuff. I personally don't think there are such things as magic accounts, but Ive watched that video of crazy turtle and agree with both of you that thenumbers don't seem to add up when vp between 2 players is so similar and base design etc. Do you think this only affects people with higher vp over 1000? Maybe someone should do a study of vp ranges under 1000, say from 800 to 1000. Would be interesting to see if the same thing is happening. I've been paying attention to my stats since all this came up and I'm only getting scouted by about 7-10 people every day. Number of raids about the same. I will keep monitoring mine, but it certainly will be interesting to see what Supercell comes up with.
Shout out to King Kong for transparency. Interesting that only about 1 in 10 of the additional scouts resulted in an attack compared to your average of about 1 and 4. SC are just 'interested' in hearing our views? How about they look at their data and do a few distributions of the number of spawns stratified by vp and a) clarify that there is not an issue (unlikely given the evidence) or b) fix the bugs to ensure a fair playing field for all. Was one of them playing the smallest violent in the world while giving that response?
I’m wondering if scouts include the number of views from the leaderboard, I have never looked and King Kongs base. Have your figures dropped now you are off the top 50?
Boy Ryan I don't like seeing this happen to you after sooooooo much hard work. What happens when you stop playing? Ive noticed on my mini when I stop playing easier bases seem to spawn. I also notice the bases that do spawn are easier and have more loot. It appears something in how you interact with the game seems to cause you to spawn more on others maps. Consider a taguchi design of experiments may help you figure this out and what parameter they are using in the game. For example are you logged in enough to trigger the red clock. Pay attention to what you are doing when you purchase diamonds. What happens when you beach your hq etc. I suspect its similar to slot machine algorithms, setup to get you to hit the buy diamond tab. We know from imitation game they use a algorithm to predict base difficulty. Maybe its not related to the algorithm but something in your player ID tag etc. Keep up the good work.
There are some accounts that are able to gain 5vp a day at moment with ease and some (like yours) that are getting screwed. Shouldn’t be too hard for them to look into why certain people are spending on maps more than others. I have the BS Supercell in game support answers if you wanna see photos of them in Discord.
Ho about theory that there is under table agrement beetwen Chinese players do not attack other Chinese High VP. But taht do not cover players like ZMot , LonleyStar that they advancing VP without Blue. Any way there is something fishy out there :)
I think if there are bases which spawn on your map which u never attack, they should be replaced after X time automatically. That would prevent the BS gentlemen agreements about certain players not attacking each other and creating unfair politics at the top. It’s absurdly easy to raid any base with this current tribe boost, and the fact that top players aren’t dropping VP seems extremely fishy to me
Maybe your failed raids play a role in other players spawning you on their map? Maybe king Kong purchased more diamond's in that time period? It would be nice if supercell gave us a explanation on the algorithm. Maybe in that same time period you spawned more bases then Kong to make up for all the extra scouts?
You're clearly being 'exposed' to more players,.. but why? seeing as both you and king kong are up there globally, you might think there would be a limited number of players matched to either one of you..? not in your case?? sucks, man!
Ryan, your a numbers guy and I like that. You doing the number crunching and putting it out there is the only way statistically that sc can investigate this phenomenon. Algorithm gone apeshit? Kudos for your effort, you da man!
Great video as always Ryan. I hope SC finally has enough 'evidence' and takes a proper look at what's going on.
The only thing I can imagine for the difference is that King Kong has spawned on the maps of players who don't actively play (whether that is not logging in at all or just not bothering with their map). You can only have so many bases on your map at once, my guess is similarly you only spawn on so many maps at once. If he is on the map for 20 - 30 players who never play then they wouldn't scout him or raid him. Then those players maps will fill up with the max number of bases they can spawn so other players (ie: you) can't also spawn on that map to not be scouted/raided by them.
The only way I can think of to fix the Magic Account issue is for Supercell to cull inactive accounts, but if they are too aggressive with it there will be negative reactions if someone tries to come back.
Very interesting. Thanks for the statistics. I have 2 theories:
1. maybe King Kong has not opened all the clouds on his map or
2. maybe the diamond purchase also plays a secret role in matching.
Ano nym Ryan has all but 1 spot open so in that theory his spawns should be lower
If you can know how much resources ur account shows in other player's map who raid or scout u, may be magic account scenario will become more clear.
Boom beach balances resources player can get per day. One can get resources on that range only ,in particular experience level. This is something to do with resource balance per experience level inbuilt in game code.
Nice work Ryan
Post this on reddit and the discord aswell, this really needs to be brought to attention over and over again until we get a word on it. This is just to drastic to be ignored. SC should atleast be able to give something similiar to an explanation.
Great vid man, and yes my opinion is there is obviously something wrong and sc need fix asap. Also good luck with the rest of comments, u got some serious half wit answers coming your way. 👍😁👍
Based on the numbers it seems like your base is stronger or drawing weaker opponents (*way* more scouts but only slightly more raids). Well done on your base design I suppose?
Holy shit. In my opinion that is totaly unfair!
I have heard of strategies, where you constantly keep for example 5 npc bases on your map to get a higher rate of player-invasions. Maybe one of you did that and that effects the rate of scouts? I don't know, but this is atm the only reason i could imagine...
Interesting all this "magic accounts" stuff. I personally don't think there are such things as magic accounts, but Ive watched that video of crazy turtle and agree with both of you that thenumbers don't seem to add up when vp between 2 players is so similar and base design etc. Do you think this only affects people with higher vp over 1000? Maybe someone should do a study of vp ranges under 1000, say from 800 to 1000. Would be interesting to see if the same thing is happening. I've been paying attention to my stats since all this came up and I'm only getting scouted by about 7-10 people every day. Number of raids about the same. I will keep monitoring mine, but it certainly will be interesting to see what Supercell comes up with.
The crazy thing is, that if you had 3 raids less per day during your push, you might have probably reached 200vp more in the end! 😓
Shout out to King Kong for transparency. Interesting that only about 1 in 10 of the additional scouts resulted in an attack compared to your average of about 1 and 4. SC are just 'interested' in hearing our views? How about they look at their data and do a few distributions of the number of spawns stratified by vp and a) clarify that there is not an issue (unlikely given the evidence) or b) fix the bugs to ensure a fair playing field for all. Was one of them playing the smallest violent in the world while giving that response?
I’m wondering if scouts include the number of views from the leaderboard, I have never looked and King Kongs base. Have your figures dropped now you are off the top 50?
Vsause in your thumbnail love't👍😄
That’s crazy. You’ve lost 80vp more than him in the last 3 weeks. That’s completely unfair matching
I think you should do a safe the war factory with zmot!
Boy Ryan I don't like seeing this happen to you after sooooooo much hard work. What happens when you stop playing? Ive noticed on my mini when I stop playing easier bases seem to spawn. I also notice the bases that do spawn are easier and have more loot. It appears something in how you interact with the game seems to cause you to spawn more on others maps. Consider a taguchi design of experiments may help you figure this out and what parameter they are using in the game. For example are you logged in enough to trigger the red clock. Pay attention to what you are doing when you purchase diamonds. What happens when you beach your hq etc. I suspect its similar to slot machine algorithms, setup to get you to hit the buy diamond tab. We know from imitation game they use a algorithm to predict base difficulty. Maybe its not related to the algorithm but something in your player ID tag etc. Keep up the good work.
There are some accounts that are able to gain 5vp a day at moment with ease and some (like yours) that are getting screwed. Shouldn’t be too hard for them to look into why certain people are spending on maps more than others.
I have the BS Supercell in game support answers if you wanna see photos of them in Discord.
I have the same. I have 1380-1400 vp. Everyday between 11-13 raids on my base. One month i try to push more than 1400 and i cant
What about spawns? Where spawns this unequal?
Wow. 😳
Ho about theory that there is under table agrement beetwen Chinese players do not attack other Chinese High VP.
But taht do not cover players like ZMot , LonleyStar that they advancing VP without Blue.
Any way there is something fishy out there :)
I think if there are bases which spawn on your map which u never attack, they should be replaced after X time automatically. That would prevent the BS gentlemen agreements about certain players not attacking each other and creating unfair politics at the top. It’s absurdly easy to raid any base with this current tribe boost, and the fact that top players aren’t dropping VP seems extremely fishy to me
Maybe your failed raids play a role in other players spawning you on their map? Maybe king Kong purchased more diamond's in that time period? It would be nice if supercell gave us a explanation on the algorithm. Maybe in that same time period you spawned more bases then Kong to make up for all the extra scouts?
Maybe you scouted more bases in that same time period. I've noticed that here lately I haven't scouted as many bases and just hit attack.
King Kong lose less trups per attack and that affect the better matching , maybe that make sense just an opinion.
You're clearly being 'exposed' to more players,.. but why? seeing as both you and king kong are up there globally, you might think there would be a limited number of players matched to either one of you..? not in your case?? sucks, man!
Magic accounts don't exist lol
adam watts so ignorant
It does
Neither does climate change, right?