Honestly 100% agree with your points. I was absolutely creasing at Kandi and Deenos unhunged rounds with you 😅 Kandi has alot of potential as he is young.
I’ll be real if the roles were reversed and skamz sevz came with the disrespect I think they’d get the hype. I clocked a lot of the crowd don’t rate Kandi. Even before the battle Margs made a little joke about it being a coloured battle which might have influenced crowd
Yea it was enemy territory. I also don’t like when the judges get cheeky they get mad when they get cheeky back. Like none of these competitors are your bros they don’t owe you respect so when you get with the bants and man gives it back don’t get upset.
Trust me Margs’ comment made no difference , it’s kandis history , 99% of his bars are nonsense and outlandish so it doesn’t hit , he’s just talking rubbish but flowing it makes the bars redundant , I think his battle with prynlee was the first time he weren’t talking rubbish; Because his bars have no meaning that’s why most of his opponents previously don’t even care about what he’s saying and neither do the crowd , we’re fed up with kandi (I do think he’s slightly improving as of recent tho) I partially agree with the roles reversed comment but skamz’ or nobody else who can rap would even do that bc it’s not about the disrespect it’s about how you do things , just repeating his dad is dead for like 16 bars at the start of your round when time is even limited per round offers nothing , no bars for the crowd to rate no flows just saying a man’s dad is dead it was a stupid idea and never gonna be taken well , I do agree with the fact that the judges are whack though , they were right not to rate kandis 16 chant but their reasonings were poor The main problem is the fact that margs doesn’t vet the judges he just brings on celebrity friends to judge BATTLE rap , not even just a rap competition but BATTLE rap , like how can you bring on a comedian to accurately judge a rap battle it makes it seem so unserious, also the judges aren’t impartial and play into the fans’ favouritism aspect Margs really needs to fix this going forward
@@Jurnalist_ But bro, stop getting personal with the gay bars man. If you dont feel it , that just means its working, just like kandi when he attacks skamzy's Dad
I think it’s easy to forget that in the US the battle rappers rap A Cappella. You wouldn’t hear someone just violating someone else’s deceased loved one in that way let’s be real. I can’t’ imagine Smack smiling or bopping his head if say Brizz was battling Mook and starts with a round saying those bars on a track for a 16. He would be straight face and we know something would pop off. Kandi and Deno could have made a clever bar and still mention Skamz’s Dad however that shit was just shit.
I’ve seen Smack stand there and take flagrant disrespect directly at him and still put the batte out. But it’s due to the cleverness of how the respect is delt out. I’ve heard it countless times just flagrant disrespect of man’s loved ones dead or alive there is no realm in which of you are battling I’m going to say that’s too far. It’s all just words but how you handle them is where a mean bar can be lost to people’s sensibilities.
@@Jurnalist_ tbh I think I do agree with you, the Judges shouldn’t have penalised them based on how the disrespect was presented. Especially after watching it back, Skamz didn’t even get mad about the bar himself 😂
@@Pk-cm3ru exactly letting personal feeling sway your judging vs judging based on technique is such a weird thing to do and Loonz keeps getting in his feelings cause he gets back chat that he starts is such moist energy.
Kandi vs Prynlee was my first intro to this format and then I found your vids. I like your perspective on these raps since I know nothing about any of these people or groups. The only thing I wish I could get are subtitles or explanations on what they said lol. I’m from the US, and most of the lines are clear and I can pick up on but sometimes I just have no idea what they even said. Particularly from Kandi as his flows seem much faster and his accent is really hard to make out.
Bless for locking in. Let’s do this. TS the moment you can’t understand and I can translate it for you and that might help. Once you gain the cultural context and lingo then you might be able to enjoy more actively.
@@Jurnalist_ honestly i'd really wanna see passive and kandi team up, passive has flows and lyricism for days but i havent seen him show real venom and viciousness and kandi has that in spades, they both have different strengths.
It’s mental like you can get dark but not so dark. Or you can get crazy but only if I rate the flow. Like what arbitrary standards. How is man supposed to view the league and build a formula when the wind decides what’s okay.
I came up on this like url and kotd and grind time. My only issue with the dont flop joint is the bants in Uk rap and battles still spins me. I’ve seen folks lose rounds to a joke when they were getting out barred. Or look at all the jokes shotty had to win the crowd back in his battle against Ars because he knew the disrespect Ars was bringing wouldn’t be able to be matched.
is like you didn't watch the video ? lunar c is basically jokes on the mic , to be honest some of the people in pengame got better flow and raping skills like iiberealz, smilez, i might say even kandi got better flow
What an embarrassment. Crowd booing was nuts too, i wonder how many grew up listening to drill. In fact, let's get some drill rappers in the judges seat..even it out a bit.
The crowd booing while they all listen to greazer drill records just shows how folks will accept the disrespect on how it’s delivered. That’s where kand and bro dropped the ball. Finesse must be employed at all times. No we don’t need drill rappers as judges either as they are some of the most emotional and unstable folks out there. Man disses his dead homie on a song so he writes a song and catches a M and gets put on the wing for 21. They don’t have the stomach to allow the disrespect that is afforded in battle rap.
@@Jurnalist_ I probably should have said the booing during the performance rather than end, but yes agree with you. Yea we don't need drillers for judges -can't help myself playing devil's advocate for some chaos, but I would like to see more new blood amongst all the usual gatekeepers. Anyway, I been enjoying these reactions.
Crowd and judges moving like hypocrites in this one. Didn’t have the same energy for whoisorion and cheeze 🤷🏻♂️ cant be one rule for one n one rule for the other in this peng game ting
They are trying to make it so but for different reasons I don’t think it will get that proper respect just like it doesn’t get the proper respect in my country.
Aye why not?🤷🏾♂️ this is where I say the finesse of a round and usage of disrespect is key. If you do it right there’s no issue but to take away points for disrespect instead of lack of originality shows the favoritism or the allowances of personal biases in the judging.
I wouldn’t say not ready. We have different cultures and I’m imposing my culture on them. Their platform has different metrics and I’m just trying to figure them out.
Because of how the judges are selected they are chosen because of their prominence in the London scene and entertainment community so they make the position of being a judge about themselves instead of the job. Job is to hear a battle and choose a winner you feel a bar is too mean personally that means it served it purpose in the battle. You think it’s too mean but not clever that’s fine but no one ever says that. Just I turned of rating your round when your bar made me deal with unhealed trauma or in Zu case him just saying he can’t have his name on things like that cause his brand awareness would be affected. It’s either these man’s personal feelings or corporate interest affecting the judging.
I dont understand the drama, but just listening to the preformance and jabs , the other team brought it when it comes to flow and lyricism. Their verses were pretty good, but so offbeat I got second hand embarrassment listening to those chants 😅 i feel like it would 'be okay' for them or no one would care if they had bars. Idc how far they go with their lyrics, that doesnt mean they should win just cause its shocking, at least be clever
@@jaydonpape5950 I think I’ve been too honest on my platform that pen game ownership would be too upset to invite down as a judge. I’d be down to do it but I don’t think they’d be happy having me.
nah better to be safe i seen videos getting demonitzed just by saying rape. Icl I found their candy and ginger prop lines weak as hell. I genuinely thought they were just gonna say SKAMZ dad is dead the entire 3rd round lmaoooo. Kandi and Deeno won this easily sometimes i just like straight disrespect without any setup especially when they just double and triple down on it. How are judges of battle rap being offended man
Bro the used the F works for lgbtq people they have used the R word bare times it’s no consistency in the editing either. They thought the chant would catch on like Rens get out of here one that’s why it went so long. The judges need to be vetted better not just be famous Donnys
It’s not personal I’ve been doing mad pen game reactions lately and every man’s go to for filler is their opponent is gay it’s lazy and boring. It’s like you doth protest too much to me.
I agree with what you've said throughout - I thought the whole point of a rap battle is to be a little disrespectful. It also seems as though some people are rated when they get a bit disrespectful and others are told its too far. Interestingly, Kandi got his ratings for being disrespectful to Prynlee which says a lot too. Something I did note is that at around 16:58 you mentioned colourism, xenophobia and us all being immigrants. I don't think Skamz and Sevz were coming from that angle but more from the same angle Prynlee came from - they're saying he claims to be something that he's not (black), not saying its wrong to be fairer skinned and/or asian
It’s because they’re white lol the judges are racist I’m black myself but they don’t like kandi because he raps with a racist undertone but it’s battle rap and they do it to them calling them white in all kinda ways the malaria jokes was because they’re African but kandi and deano had me rolling and won it for me the whoisorion battle I feel like trappy and drizz won not because of the sensitivity I just preferred them but kandi and deano won this off of straight humour
The race angle plays a small part but it’s more due to the set ups not being there. Also Kandi isn’t rapping with a racist undertone he’s giving back what he’s been giving in other battles. They’ve been speaking on his whiteness so he made remarks back. Don’t give it if you can’t take it simple as. I got the malaria bar. Just think it’s a line that like many of the others need more finesse to make it more impactful not just disrespectful. If you are saying trappy and drizz won to you personally for that reason that’s calm but the judges said it themselves they were too sensitive so Orion and cheeze lost.
@@Jurnalist_nah I’m telling you bro his bars has a racist undertone to it for sure and not because he’s racist but because like you said he gets it all the time and as black people we like to talk about white people in battles disrespectfully but hate when the do it back it’s like a wow did he really say that i was in the crowd in wembley and I heard so many people says he’s racist when clearly he’s not also I know loons and the way the said “the mandem won it” when white guys can be mandem as well explains it all
Bro i agree the judges are as soft as butter on a hit summer day!
Lurpak on the stove 🤣🤣
@@Jurnalist_ there bi-polar
@@beaupayne2364 it’s sad honestly.
Honestly 100% agree with your points. I was absolutely creasing at Kandi and Deenos unhunged rounds with you 😅 Kandi has alot of potential as he is young.
They man said fuck it send that disrespect don’t think about shit. Shock value only gets you so far.
I’ll be real if the roles were reversed and skamz sevz came with the disrespect I think they’d get the hype. I clocked a lot of the crowd don’t rate Kandi. Even before the battle Margs made a little joke about it being a coloured battle which might have influenced crowd
Yea it was enemy territory. I also don’t like when the judges get cheeky they get mad when they get cheeky back. Like none of these competitors are your bros they don’t owe you respect so when you get with the bants and man gives it back don’t get upset.
Trust me Margs’ comment made no difference , it’s kandis history , 99% of his bars are nonsense and outlandish so it doesn’t hit , he’s just talking rubbish but flowing it makes the bars redundant , I think his battle with prynlee was the first time he weren’t talking rubbish;
Because his bars have no meaning that’s why most of his opponents previously don’t even care about what he’s saying and neither do the crowd , we’re fed up with kandi (I do think he’s slightly improving as of recent tho)
I partially agree with the roles reversed comment but skamz’ or nobody else who can rap would even do that bc it’s not about the disrespect it’s about how you do things , just repeating his dad is dead for like 16 bars at the start of your round when time is even limited per round offers nothing , no bars for the crowd to rate no flows just saying a man’s dad is dead it was a stupid idea and never gonna be taken well , I do agree with the fact that the judges are whack though , they were right not to rate kandis 16 chant but their reasonings were poor
The main problem is the fact that margs doesn’t vet the judges he just brings on celebrity friends to judge BATTLE rap , not even just a rap competition but BATTLE rap , like how can you bring on a comedian to accurately judge a rap battle it makes it seem so unserious, also the judges aren’t impartial and play into the fans’ favouritism aspect Margs really needs to fix this going forward
Another 10/10 reaction bro you’re killing these fr🔥
Bless g. I am just enjoying getting to cover a sport I hold dear. Being as impartial as I possibly can.
@@Jurnalist_ But bro, stop getting personal with the gay bars man. If you dont feel it , that just means its working, just like kandi when he attacks skamzy's Dad
They definitely wasn't prepared for the disrespec
Not one bit.
Facts man why’s people moving soft it’s BATTLE RAP I love hearing people say it how it is
That’s the way we built the channel. Keeping it a bean.
Been waiting for this reaction video bro 👊
Big up. 🫡
judges are way to soft, giving a reload for mentioning ginger jay is just mad
Exactly ,cheap forced reload
Right like mentioning a dead soda and the host gets a wheel what are these standards. I rate Ging though bro funny af.
They was on bs.
I think it’s easy to forget that in the US the battle rappers rap A Cappella. You wouldn’t hear someone just violating someone else’s deceased loved one in that way let’s be real. I can’t’ imagine Smack smiling or bopping his head if say Brizz was battling Mook and starts with a round saying those bars on a track for a 16. He would be straight face and we know something would pop off. Kandi and Deno could have made a clever bar and still mention Skamz’s Dad however that shit was just shit.
The Mum is deader bar did deserve a wheel though. I guarantee if they didn’t start with the chant they that would have got the wheel.
I’ve seen Smack stand there and take flagrant disrespect directly at him and still put the batte out. But it’s due to the cleverness of how the respect is delt out. I’ve heard it countless times just flagrant disrespect of man’s loved ones dead or alive there is no realm in which of you are battling I’m going to say that’s too far. It’s all just words but how you handle them is where a mean bar can be lost to people’s sensibilities.
Wheel it.
@@Jurnalist_ tbh I think I do agree with you, the Judges shouldn’t have penalised them based on how the disrespect was presented. Especially after watching it back, Skamz didn’t even get mad about the bar himself 😂
@@Pk-cm3ru exactly letting personal feeling sway your judging vs judging based on technique is such a weird thing to do and Loonz keeps getting in his feelings cause he gets back chat that he starts is such moist energy.
Preciate it bro👊 my nans not even dead bro I wasn’t pressed just refused to step down when he stepped to me👏
You need to stop catting bars before anything eles my guy
@@zeph-87 who’s bars did I use ?
You gotta tell us who this is a big accusation
Respect g
@@Deenooo24s when you said I was fisting his mum last night tell that bitch i want my watch back that is a Lunar C bar
LOL That ginger wheel hurt you 😂 I don't blame you it was weak AF
My entire soul. Plus that soda is dead af.
Justice for Kandi
🤣🤣🤣 this slogan is hilarious
when jurnalist drops a pengame reaction i don’t even hesitate to click
Big up for that g. Means a lot to see a comment like this. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Kandi vs Prynlee was my first intro to this format and then I found your vids. I like your perspective on these raps since I know nothing about any of these people or groups. The only thing I wish I could get are subtitles or explanations on what they said lol. I’m from the US, and most of the lines are clear and I can pick up on but sometimes I just have no idea what they even said. Particularly from Kandi as his flows seem much faster and his accent is really hard to make out.
Bless for locking in. Let’s do this. TS the moment you can’t understand and I can translate it for you and that might help. Once you gain the cultural context and lingo then you might be able to enjoy more actively.
Deeno at 9:51, me two weeks ago probably didn’t catch his lines lol. I felt like that was underrated.
Oh man, Kandi is lowkey funny af with his disrespectful bars 😂😂😂
Your reaction was exactly my reaction back then 😂😂
I never like any of the Pengame judges
@@samyheath8103 wait until you ren n f Don 🤣
@@Jurnalist_ lol think I've seen that one around July
realest reactor
💜🤞🏾 you man are too kind.
Kandi needs to team up with Cheeze or Orion
Idk about that. I’d like to see him team with someone who puts him outside his comfort and makes his finesse more than just pure greaze.
Read that as Cheese and Onion 😅
@@Jurnalist_ honestly i'd really wanna see passive and kandi team up, passive has flows and lyricism for days but i havent seen him show real venom and viciousness and kandi has that in spades, they both have different strengths.
icl skamz and sevz just didnt work well together kandi and deeno 3-0
@@Louis-ok8gi hold on now skamz and sevz worked very well together. Chemistry was calm flows were cool but it wasn’t special.
@@Louis-ok8gi a 30 is crazy work.
the judges so soft for battle rap
😂😂
It’s mental like you can get dark but not so dark. Or you can get crazy but only if I rate the flow. Like what arbitrary standards. How is man supposed to view the league and build a formula when the wind decides what’s okay.
Nahh you gotta watch season 3 group stages Skamz and you’ll realise why he’ll never be let go 🤣
I’ll get it but if you had a run you can’t fuck it up with fumbles.
You should watch some old don’t flop battles
Especially lunar c.
That’s proper UK battle rap
I came up on this like url and kotd and grind time. My only issue with the dont flop joint is the bants in Uk rap and battles still spins me. I’ve seen folks lose rounds to a joke when they were getting out barred. Or look at all the jokes shotty had to win the crowd back in his battle against Ars because he knew the disrespect Ars was bringing wouldn’t be able to be matched.
is like you didn't watch the video ? lunar c is basically jokes on the mic , to be honest some of the people in pengame got better flow and raping skills like iiberealz, smilez, i might say even kandi got better flow
@@zintek123 then maybe more Tony D , if that’s the case
@@zintek123 is your reply to me cause it don't make sense to me if so.
@@Jurnalist_ no i was talking to the one on top telling you to watch lunar.c , and i was telling him that he is mostly jokes on the mic
Yeh they need u as a judge in all ur vids ur calls are 100% accurate
🙏🏾🫡 that’s big respect.
It’s an old one but you need to watch Storm vs Grams, has an all timer round from Grams in there
Got you
It really pisses me off when they cut the words out they need to pattern up
Right like it’s a battle what are we doing here
This is how you know we are never getting a "Hit em up" equivalent from that side. Soft people. Kandi was great lol
Not in battle rap. But go look up absav tables turn 1-3 bro made tupac look like a Saint.
@@Jurnalist_ I didn’t understand all the bars but damn you weren’t lying. It’s danger on those streets
@@mark_sammy1440 I got a community guideline strike behind doing reactions to bros songs. He is a crudy individual.
Aww poor judges got their feelings hurt🤧 piss offfff
Ridiculous innit
What an embarrassment. Crowd booing was nuts too, i wonder how many grew up listening to drill. In fact, let's get some drill rappers in the judges seat..even it out a bit.
The crowd booing while they all listen to greazer drill records just shows how folks will accept the disrespect on how it’s delivered. That’s where kand and bro dropped the ball. Finesse must be employed at all times.
No we don’t need drill rappers as judges either as they are some of the most emotional and unstable folks out there. Man disses his dead homie on a song so he writes a song and catches a M and gets put on the wing for 21. They don’t have the stomach to allow the disrespect that is afforded in battle rap.
@@Jurnalist_ I probably should have said the booing during the performance rather than end, but yes agree with you. Yea we don't need drillers for judges -can't help myself playing devil's advocate for some chaos, but I would like to see more new blood amongst all the usual gatekeepers. Anyway, I been enjoying these reactions.
Sarffttttttttt😂😂😂 kandi knows the catalogue of battle rap
Kandi is on smoke.
Crowd and judges moving like hypocrites in this one. Didn’t have the same energy for whoisorion and cheeze 🤷🏻♂️ cant be one rule for one n one rule for the other in this peng game ting
The crowd can do as they please but the judges had one job and man fumbled that flat out.
Grimmy vs syco who's da boss
Kandi smashes tbf he’s been better than grams recently grams been flopping he should go against grams next
Poor judging, when was rap battle ever respectable..
They are trying to make it so but for different reasons I don’t think it will get that proper respect just like it doesn’t get the proper respect in my country.
Kandi is like marmite u either love him or hate him but same way these judges gotta be consistent
Yea there’s being marmite and then there’s literally playing favs. We don’t do that over here. You’re supposed to be an impartial judge.
I hear it that everything goes in a rap battle but 18 times my guy? 😂
Aye why not?🤷🏾♂️ this is where I say the finesse of a round and usage of disrespect is key. If you do it right there’s no issue but to take away points for disrespect instead of lack of originality shows the favoritism or the allowances of personal biases in the judging.
@@Jurnalist_ for me its the lack of creativity rather than the disrespect. I hear you still.
I agree, UK ain’t really ready for a battle rap platform.
I wouldn’t say not ready. We have different cultures and I’m imposing my culture on them. Their platform has different metrics and I’m just trying to figure them out.
He said even drizz ain’t rap**** her
😭😭😭 my nigga drizz be getting done dirty.
the same comment i made on the pengame channel why the fak are they taking the disses like is directed at them? they are ruining the battles
Because of how the judges are selected they are chosen because of their prominence in the London scene and entertainment community so they make the position of being a judge about themselves instead of the job.
Job is to hear a battle and choose a winner you feel a bar is too mean personally that means it served it purpose in the battle. You think it’s too mean but not clever that’s fine but no one ever says that. Just I turned of rating your round when your bar made me deal with unhealed trauma or in Zu case him just saying he can’t have his name on things like that cause his brand awareness would be affected. It’s either these man’s personal feelings or corporate interest affecting the judging.
I dont understand the drama, but just listening to the preformance and jabs , the other team brought it when it comes to flow and lyricism. Their verses were pretty good, but so offbeat I got second hand embarrassment listening to those chants 😅 i feel like it would 'be okay' for them or no one would care if they had bars. Idc how far they go with their lyrics, that doesnt mean they should win just cause its shocking, at least be clever
They don’t rate white bruddas in pen game for some reason
Passive gets highs rating’s I swear.
He’s the only 1 I mean he is cold. I feel like if others said some of the bars they said it would of got reloads
@@jaydonpape5950 that's facts look how they took the vase smashing vs the pure disrespect bar.
@@Jurnalist_ we need you to be the one of the judges I swear😂
@@jaydonpape5950 I think I’ve been too honest on my platform that pen game ownership would be too upset to invite down as a judge. I’d be down to do it but I don’t think they’d be happy having me.
Watch jm v fendry
I got you
The Remy Ma one is Geechi Vs Eazy
Aye that’s it.
nah better to be safe i seen videos getting demonitzed just by saying rape. Icl I found their candy and ginger prop lines weak as hell. I genuinely thought they were just gonna say SKAMZ dad is dead the entire 3rd round lmaoooo. Kandi and Deeno won this easily sometimes i just like straight disrespect without any setup especially when they just double and triple down on it. How are judges of battle rap being offended man
Bro the used the F works for lgbtq people they have used the R word bare times it’s no consistency in the editing either.
They thought the chant would catch on like Rens get out of here one that’s why it went so long.
The judges need to be vetted better not just be famous Donnys
Nah, bro u always get personal whenever u hear "gay bars" its clear bro, show the same energy.
TS the section.
It’s not personal I’ve been doing mad pen game reactions lately and every man’s go to for filler is their opponent is gay it’s lazy and boring. It’s like you doth protest too much to me.
I agree with what you've said throughout - I thought the whole point of a rap battle is to be a little disrespectful. It also seems as though some people are rated when they get a bit disrespectful and others are told its too far. Interestingly, Kandi got his ratings for being disrespectful to Prynlee which says a lot too.
Something I did note is that at around 16:58 you mentioned colourism, xenophobia and us all being immigrants. I don't think Skamz and Sevz were coming from that angle but more from the same angle Prynlee came from - they're saying he claims to be something that he's not (black), not saying its wrong to be fairer skinned and/or asian
It’s because they’re white lol the judges are racist I’m black myself but they don’t like kandi because he raps with a racist undertone but it’s battle rap and they do it to them calling them white in all kinda ways the malaria jokes was because they’re African but kandi and deano had me rolling and won it for me the whoisorion battle I feel like trappy and drizz won not because of the sensitivity I just preferred them but kandi and deano won this off of straight humour
The race angle plays a small part but it’s more due to the set ups not being there.
Also Kandi isn’t rapping with a racist undertone he’s giving back what he’s been giving in other battles.
They’ve been speaking on his whiteness so he made remarks back. Don’t give it if you can’t take it simple as.
I got the malaria bar. Just think it’s a line that like many of the others need more finesse to make it more impactful not just disrespectful.
If you are saying trappy and drizz won to you personally for that reason that’s calm but the judges said it themselves they were too sensitive so Orion and cheeze lost.
@@Jurnalist_nah I’m telling you bro his bars has a racist undertone to it for sure and not because he’s racist but because like you said he gets it all the time and as black people we like to talk about white people in battles disrespectfully but hate when the do it back it’s like a wow did he really say that i was in the crowd in wembley and I heard so many people says he’s racist when clearly he’s not also I know loons and the way the said “the mandem won it” when white guys can be mandem as well explains it all