Yes, that's well summed up. The additional issue is that it does not just give shallow interactions - by being exposed to so many people, the feeling of loneliness does actually increase tenfold: it's like being in a giant mall with thousands of people all around running in all directions and you in the middle shouting "can anyone hear me?" and no one answering, except maybe a couple nearby that will tell you to shut up. More potential interactions is different from more interactions and increases frustration dramatically.
Its very strength was its ultimate downfall: lack of nuance in every conversation for the sake of "engagement" on their glorified road of billboards wasting everyone's time
There are many systemic problems in Twitter, namely polarization. Every social network or similar (e.g., Reddit, 4chan, etc) has inherent problems with how it functions. I wonder if this will ever be solved - some online place where positivity but also varied opinions can more or less prosper in a healthy manner.
A shallow take. Twitter is not very different from other forms of social media. Even this comment section is about the same. Twitter is not the cause of loneliness, it's just an imperfect solution for lonely people that may try to use it as a substitute. It is evidently not even intended as that kind of thing. The focus is discussion on current issues, and in that sense, Twitter is about as good as any other internet platform. The solution to loneliness is as it has always been: get yourself some friends. Then you can follow news on Twitter as a normal person, and not expect friendship there. I would say that the simp phenomenon on Twitch exhibits much more of the pathology that JB is observing.
Humans are not social by default. Humans are atomized by default and social for different reasons. Modern society, and by modern I mean the past few centuries, sometimes accidentally and sometimes intentionally destroys those reasons.
@@seriouscat2231 We are not not talking about "manners". All biologists & ecologists agree that humans evolved to fit into a social environment; it is innate in us and humans brought up with insufficient social interaction reliably have severe mental problems including suicidality. There were cruel experiments done in the past on this topic, go ahead and look them up. You can also look at what happened to state-orphans in communist Romania.
Wrong, but grasping at some truths. Humans are a social species, but the social structures we evolved for do not match the social structures that actually exist. We were built for small tribes made of a dozen or so families and a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Everything about modernity is the opposite of that: we live among strangers, we work with strangers, and we get our food from strangers. Of course people are lonely in those circumstances.
The atomization of humanity will be seen as the biggest mistake we ever made
i quit social media in 2016 , it's the best move i did in my life .
Yes, that's well summed up. The additional issue is that it does not just give shallow interactions - by being exposed to so many people, the feeling of loneliness does actually increase tenfold: it's like being in a giant mall with thousands of people all around running in all directions and you in the middle shouting "can anyone hear me?" and no one answering, except maybe a couple nearby that will tell you to shut up.
More potential interactions is different from more interactions and increases frustration dramatically.
Is nobody uploading jblow vods anymore? I know he streamed today, I'm always busy when he goes live
I think he could do a backflip first try without practice
Waiting for video "Jonathan Blow on problem With Jonathan Blow"
X is hopeless. Every post I make gets liked by 5 porn bots
well at least not feeling lonely right? And some nudes.... f my life
Its very strength was its ultimate downfall: lack of nuance in every conversation for the sake of "engagement" on their glorified road of billboards wasting everyone's time
Don't join twitter, join the helldivers, help to spread managed democracy, and never be alone again.
Twitter is the model place to explain the ideation of people instead of knowing people as people.
There are many systemic problems in Twitter, namely polarization. Every social network or similar (e.g., Reddit, 4chan, etc) has inherent problems with how it functions. I wonder if this will ever be solved - some online place where positivity but also varied opinions can more or less prosper in a healthy manner.
I find Twitter is mainly covert marketing or "shilling" as the kids call it these days.
If you think that's bad in Twitter, what is Instagram? Am I supposed to believe 300 million people have organically decided to follow Nike?
How is the "angreeness" on X better than the shallowness on FB/Insta?
Did he say it was?
@@slynt_ No, I'm just asking why picking on X? The answer could be the same if the question was "The problem with current social networks"
But MUDs were great
A shallow take. Twitter is not very different from other forms of social media. Even this comment section is about the same. Twitter is not the cause of loneliness, it's just an imperfect solution for lonely people that may try to use it as a substitute. It is evidently not even intended as that kind of thing. The focus is discussion on current issues, and in that sense, Twitter is about as good as any other internet platform.
The solution to loneliness is as it has always been: get yourself some friends. Then you can follow news on Twitter as a normal person, and not expect friendship there. I would say that the simp phenomenon on Twitch exhibits much more of the pathology that JB is observing.
do you have a tl;dr? maybe something that fits in 140 characters?
@@lifelover69 Is the fact that I couldn't have posted this on Twitter some kind of subtle criticism?
@@ElPikacupacabra, he's too important to spend time reading anything that's longer. Books or articles, for example. Or recipes. Or instructions.
Humans are not social by default. Humans are atomized by default and social for different reasons. Modern society, and by modern I mean the past few centuries, sometimes accidentally and sometimes intentionally destroys those reasons.
Utter unscientific nonsense. Are you a libertarian or something?
@@slynt_, you don't believe manners are learned?
I'm confused. Are other animals that live in groups also not social by default?
@@seriouscat2231 We are not not talking about "manners". All biologists & ecologists agree that humans evolved to fit into a social environment; it is innate in us and humans brought up with insufficient social interaction reliably have severe mental problems including suicidality. There were cruel experiments done in the past on this topic, go ahead and look them up. You can also look at what happened to state-orphans in communist Romania.
Wrong, but grasping at some truths.
Humans are a social species, but the social structures we evolved for do not match the social structures that actually exist. We were built for small tribes made of a dozen or so families and a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Everything about modernity is the opposite of that: we live among strangers, we work with strangers, and we get our food from strangers. Of course people are lonely in those circumstances.