I bought a neglected airport and brought it back to life

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  • @BonanzaPilot
    @BonanzaPilot หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The problem with this airport is that is nothing more than a locals "stamp" airport. We transit to Whidbey Island from California and this airport isn't even a consideration. No services for true transient operations. Their local bus is the recommended form of transportation. It is currently a better experience and arguably faster to fly into Skagit and drive to Whidbey.

  • @jd6052
    @jd6052 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Owner is as egotistical as they come, but he does put on a good disguise behind the screen.

  • @gregcharest443
    @gregcharest443 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As soon as I heard him say he is “an equatorial and polar circumnavigator” I suspected the worst. It was confirmed when he publicly criticized the airport as a “dark place” and started to complain that people disagreed with his plans. And why is AOPA supporting landing fees anyway?

  • @MichaelCarrPilot
    @MichaelCarrPilot หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I thought AOPA was fighting for no/reduced landing fees but then uploads this with a $20 landing fee? If he wanted contributions to your tax credit, you shouldn’t have bought an airport because it “maybe sounded like fun.” What. A. Joke.

  • @cincinnatusjeffery
    @cincinnatusjeffery หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    While visiting family on the island, I stopped by to see what the airport was like. I got a nice tour of the current setup and future projects, and was very impressed. The owner seemed very down-to-earth, and legitimately excited about the project. I wish him and the airport the best.

    • @KuostA
      @KuostA หลายเดือนก่อน

      glad to hear! how did u find the owner to talk? amazing experience!

  • @ArloReeves
    @ArloReeves หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    AOPA what happened? Anyone paying attention knows the transformation of Eisenberg/Oak Harbor hasn’t been good for the local pilots or transient aviators but has instead removed OKH from flight plans for many. I’ve been an AOPA member for 30 years and know there are good stories to be told about airport restoration, like the one you ran recently on L88 New Cayuma. Had you done a little more research, you would know this is not one of those stories. Please reconsider spending your members dues on promoting developments like this.

  • @Jmbueller
    @Jmbueller หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    What was a fun little airport has become a monument to this guy’s ego. Look up the history of the sale of the airport. It could have been publicly owned with no landing fee. Luckily, there are lots of examples of just that in the area.

    • @mh53eflyguy
      @mh53eflyguy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He just wrecked his Aero Commander in Spokane the other day. I'm glad he's ok.

  • @markvarljen3879
    @markvarljen3879 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    If it came down to a choice between closing an airport for good and this model, I think we would all take this model any day. But thats not what happened here. Neglect occurred in the hands of a previous private owner, and when the community attemped to put this facility into public ownership to rehabilitate it, it is true - this guy sued to block the effort by the public. Sure, he has put his owm money into it, and it is better now than it was, no question about it. But is it better than it could have been? Did this guy really do a service to the community? What happens when he gets bored or runs out of money or worse? At the end of the day, I'll give credit where credit is due...he put up his own money and hasn't neglected it like the last owner, and I respect his right as a private owner to charge whatever he wants or feels he needs to charge to keep the place operating. But lets be honest about the situation here - there was a public option to ensure community benefit forever, to allow aviators who pay fuel tax and businesses who benefit from aviation to enjoy use of those funds, and this guy blocked it.

  • @Andrew-y3u6z
    @Andrew-y3u6z 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A big Nope due to the fee to land.

  • @fighterbomberMiG27
    @fighterbomberMiG27 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It is my dream to have my own small airport near my home. And I don't stop achieving my dreams. Excellent presentation and camera work from the drone. My support to your channel and full respect

  • @desertviews7503
    @desertviews7503 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I fly in the Seattle area out of one of the many private owned, public use airports that help make the PNW one of the most interesting areas to fly in. None of them that I know of charge landing fees and overnight parking fees are rarely more than $20, and even the private owned, private use runways that need prior permission to use typically don't charge anything. By charging a landing fee what he's doing is basically saying "this airport is for me to show off my toys in "a museum" and write off on my taxes and for my friends and I and other desirable people who are significantly well off that a $20 fee doesn't bother them to use" while at the same time claiming it's for the community.
    For those of us who don't have unlimited aviation budgets and are dealing with some of the highest avgas and maintenance prices in the country to start with, paying $20 to land at an airport with no services surrounded by other airports with better runways and locations without landing fees is basically a non-starter. And I kind of think that's his intent.
    I've been to one airport that charged a landing fee. It was a dual use commercial / GA airport and they had a "follow me" truck to get me to a tucked away parking space, the driver / line guy helped me tie down and unload, dove me to the FBO and dropped me off at the courtesy car which they had ready for me, and when I left later in the day the process was reversed. The airport and FBO split the $30 fee and I didn't mind paying that for that level of service.
    I also find it interesting that the airport is owned by "DFF LLC" out of San Diego, not locally.

    • @CaptJimDavis
      @CaptJimDavis หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I am sorry but I don't think anybody need to have an unlimited budget in order to pay $20 landing fee for an airport you may be flying to once or twice a year! I don't want to sound like a snob and I am definitely not one of those people with "unlimited aviation budget" or any other type of unlimited budget actually... I fly a 1946 Ercoupe which I've purchased for $35,000 in February 2024 and I don't mind to pay $20 landing fee in order to visit a private airport I may be flying once or twice in my lifetime. If I find myself in a situation that I can't afford even once in a great while an unexpected $20 expense, that will be the day I'll put a For Sale sign on my plane and place an ad into Barnstormers!

    • @KuostA
      @KuostA หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CaptJimDavis now what if more, and then most, and then every small rural/GA/etc. airstrip had this $20+ fee, and it wasn't just 'only once or twice a year'; would you still be okay with that....? genuine question.

    • @CaptJimDavis
      @CaptJimDavis หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KuostA Well that is not the case in here isn't it now? If a privately owned airport is charging $20 landing fee then don't fly/land there. It's that simple... Instead of discussing imaginary issues let's talk about the actual issue here.

    • @KuostA
      @KuostA หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CaptJimDavis my point is that, if you're okay with an airport being privatized like this and a high landing fee being assessed, more and more airports may continue to go down this pathway, and you'll potentially see more and more airports you're forced to pay this fee at out of necessity, and will you be happy with that?

    • @CaptJimDavis
      @CaptJimDavis หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KuostA I understand your point but we are talking about an airport in the middle of nowhere which was purchased by someone and after some work its was turned into something you don't like. Ok so, skip that one... It's that simple. Plus $20 is not a high landing fee at a place that you won't be going on a daily basis. That's my point! If every small town airport turns into something like this one then we can discuss that issue. But USA has 19,700 airports and few of them has landing fees. So, simply skip them... That's my point! Well at least at the moment...

  • @navion1946
    @navion1946 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    New slogan, AOPA: your freedom to pay user fees.

  • @brianb5594
    @brianb5594 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is great AOPA but where were you in the fight to keep the airport from closing in St. Marys, Georgia? We know have no airport there anymore.

  • @WA7HOI
    @WA7HOI หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice little airport we have been to many times in the past in our Ercoupe. There is a short walk south down to the water which is nice. I remember looking into the closed lobby of the tiny terminal that was used by maybe Island Air or some other long ago defunct airline. It was like looking back in time , with old big PC monitors and raincoats hanging on the wall. Kind of like a museum itself. The runway has quite a slope to the west that really gets you going on takeoff! I find it hard to believe so many pilots grumping about a lousy $20 landing fee! Been to your local Starbucks recently? Maybe time for them to get another hobby! ;)

  • @YellowSkylane
    @YellowSkylane หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Owner is the Most hated guy in the Northwest 😂

  • @Thegr8iam-p7t
    @Thegr8iam-p7t หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Smart move getting this property. May God’s blessings go with you. 🙏🏻

  • @englishclive
    @englishclive หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    You guys whining about 20 bucks when the guy put his own dollars into the place?
    You need to come to Europe and experience some real airfield economics.
    You are so spoiled you don’t even know it.

    • @MrChriskep1
      @MrChriskep1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No we know it and you're absolutely right

    • @Saml01
      @Saml01 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You're right. Maybe we should privatize what's left and nationalize the rest like Europe did so basically no one except the ultra wealthy can participate. Kinda like what this guy did.

    • @CaptJimDavis
      @CaptJimDavis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Saml01 I don't want the GA in USA turn into something like as it is in Europe but again, if some investor buys a neglected airport and revitalize it and opens it to use with a nominal charge like $20 it doesn't bother me.
      I live in CA and we have many airports around us could be the best places to fly but because they are managed by the some tiny municipalities they are so neglected that they look like scenes from TV series of Walking Dead. Runway sucks, pilot lounge sucks, toilet sucks, tumbleweeds blow across runway, fuel pumps are not working etc etc. I wish some of those were purchased by investors and turned into nice, decent airports to fly in and if that cost $20 to fly there once in a while to have fun, I'd be gladly paying that fee rather than flying to one of those Mad Max airports!

    • @brokenpropproductions
      @brokenpropproductions หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptJimDavis Name these so called mad max airports in SoCal so we can go there !

    • @boogerwood
      @boogerwood หลายเดือนก่อน

      How much from investors?

  • @MrTurboTurkey
    @MrTurboTurkey หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Landing fee in our part of the country/state doesn't make sense at all. If you want to throw some hangars up however, you will make some steady money.

  • @gunut4FMJ
    @gunut4FMJ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait, is he using ADSB to charge landing fees?

  • @JamesEisnor
    @JamesEisnor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my area there is a private airport for sale. The price is too high for me to buy it. It has real possibilities to generate a profit. I can imagine a wonderful restaurant and activities. My point to you is: You must make your airport a destination. A place other pilots want to fly to. A place people from the surrounding area want to drive to for an experience. Good luck with your airport. I live on the other side of the US. It is not likely I will be able to visit your airport.

  • @Barstool_cub_driver
    @Barstool_cub_driver หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    $20 landing fee? lol. Avoiding this place asap.

    • @garyowen9044
      @garyowen9044 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was public, but in disuse, and now it’s private.

    • @Barstool_cub_driver
      @Barstool_cub_driver หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @ and I’m still avoiding it. $20 for a landing fee is ridiculous. Try just having inexpensive gas and some fly-ins.

  • @flobie1kenobi
    @flobie1kenobi 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd rather pay a private entity than pay taxes to a government that takes 10x the cost to mismanage the same project.

  • @marcmurawski398
    @marcmurawski398 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I bailed out of AOPA about three years ago .. garbage

  • @floatingmallows
    @floatingmallows หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Let’s talk about how this guy who casts himself as an “angel of peace” throughout the world actually sued the county to prevent the public from taking ownership and improving it within the public domain. Grab some interviews with former and current tenants who have had the displeasure of dealing with this guy. There are many and they aren’t hard to hide. The constant self promotion from this guy is nauseating.

    • @brentdavidson1
      @brentdavidson1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Links or it didn’t happen plz

    • @floatingmallows
      @floatingmallows หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@brentdavidson1 let me google that for you

    • @Jmbueller
      @Jmbueller หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It happened. It was actually the Port of Coupeville but the gist is the same

    • @YellowSkylane
      @YellowSkylane หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The word is no one likes new owner.

    • @onefireguy
      @onefireguy หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I like him. He is a real deal GA pilot. He loves aviation. We all know what happens when small broke governments get into airport ownership and seek grants… the port was dillydallying, and was likely never going to have a consensus that guaranteed it would stay open or get improved. You’re welcome!
      The facts he stated in the video are true.
      And complaining when you have no skin in the game, is just cowardly.

  • @mh53eflyguy
    @mh53eflyguy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used to fly out of OKH. It was a challenge landing downhill and only 25' of runway, but it made you a better pilot. I would have loved to have landed in the grass there!
    Bring back skydiving too!

  • @lmfarms4611
    @lmfarms4611 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you.

  • @DaneJasper
    @DaneJasper หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah, no.

  • @solgoode1
    @solgoode1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wonderful video! Congratulations. I would love to do what you've done in buying and restoring the airport.

  • @mellanieb2416
    @mellanieb2416 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe you could get a little snack shack on the airport or portable food trailer and set up certain days or dates, and have a flyin breakfast, or bbq..
    Send out to all nearby airports...
    People love food! A great way to get people there to see what you are trying to do.
    A 20 buck landing fee probably doesn't even cover fuel, and insurance...labor..
    I think its a deal...
    Good Luck.....

  • @EzeikelGundelfinger
    @EzeikelGundelfinger หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Best of Luck to you...

  • @davidzoppa6929
    @davidzoppa6929 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm Canadian and I love flying to Orcas. I'll definitely come visit.

  • @brokenpropproductions
    @brokenpropproductions หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I won’t be there ever . I don’t generally pay landing fees , and won’t if at all possible. Noticed a few things . First phone number is out of San Diego area. So i bet the new owner flipped real estate there and bought this airport as an investment. That’s fine , he has the right, but I have the right to not go there unless it offers something for my 20 bucks other than just landing ! I haven’t seen a price for fuel , so unless that saves me 20 bucks why go ? I travel up and down the West Coast , San Diego , at both KSEE and KMYF have no landing fee and at KSEE it’s 5 bucks a night parking on the transient ramp. This guy sounds like every other idiot that thinks just raising prices will solve the situation, it won’t . The solution is offer more for less , you’ll get more . Yes he will have to invest and take some risks , but the run way costs the same each day regardless if it gets used . Airports have no additional costs because a small plane lands there . The successful small private airports I frequent offer fuel savings and/or a crew car and/or a restaurant and/or a real museum… something to make it worth 20 bucks ! I see nothing here that works for me . A runway is not a draw , his location may be , but i’ll never find out, I’ll vote with my wallet and go to Johnson Creek , or many other places that don’t charge a landing fee ! Thanks for letting me vent !

    • @Flyingthrulife
      @Flyingthrulife หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brokenpropproductions the $20 is to keep the cheapskates like you away. Do you really think the $20 covers the cost of a 3-4 million dollar runway?

  • @low_flying_aircraft9309
    @low_flying_aircraft9309 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve landed there before.

  •  หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know, in Finland we have this annual airfield competition run by the local aviation association to get people flying and visiting many airfields - it is good for community and it also motivates people to keep their skills current. But having variable prices landing fees to certain airfields just make people to not visit those, but selecting ”more friendly” places.

  • @gregmossed
    @gregmossed หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    This is a gross joke. He *took* a public airport and turned it private, then calls anyone who doesn't like it selfish. It's the most American thing, a rich person full of themselves uses their financial power to buy a public asset, then names it after themselves and puts it behind a barrier for exclusive use. Sure he upgraded the fuel tanks - forgot to mention that no one can use them anymore unless they're part of his little club. It's like the charter schools of airports. Talking about doing it "for the community" is a joke.

    • @garyowen9044
      @garyowen9044 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He lost me with biofuels.

  • @MrChriskep1
    @MrChriskep1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love it if you could give us some financial details

  • @sammarmon3965
    @sammarmon3965 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It seems like an airport of last resort. I get it if there was a fancy FBO that would park your plane in the hanger, fuel it up, and get you a rental car, but for a strip of asphalt, this guy is an opportunist.

  • @DrBrianKeating
    @DrBrianKeating หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a wonderful story! Thanks Robert and AOPA

  • @tymechling4
    @tymechling4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great job renovating and renewing this little airport and striving to get kids interested in aviation. I’d love to be involved and help make our community better.

  • @JohnVHRC
    @JohnVHRC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome, a local airport, never been to that one.

  • @sammysouth8372
    @sammysouth8372 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have like a couple of hours once a week for giant RC planes? For a fee?

  • @Cousin.
    @Cousin. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even before finding out more information about what was & is really going on here, I was turned off and suspicious. (Rightfully so it seems.) I've never heard so many Politically Correct clichés in one short video, ever. And I live in the SF Bay Area, near Stanford... (Big Red Flag)
    Washington. Naturally. There are a million of him in Marin County, and plenty in Silicon Valley too.

  • @boogerwood
    @boogerwood หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. So zero dollars from state or federal. Impressive.

  • @RSK98087
    @RSK98087 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Landed here right seat in a Cessna Caravan and it felt like a golf cart path. Hopefully the residents of Oak Harbor can support these efforts 👍🏼

    • @ThePicklepoopie
      @ThePicklepoopie หลายเดือนก่อน

      After a lengthy permitting process, the runway was recently repaved and widened from 25 feet to 60 feet!! 🎉

  • @hotttt28
    @hotttt28 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Apparently money can buy happiness, for one man and his Ego !

    • @waynesilva3129
      @waynesilva3129 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Speaking of buying happiness. Every time I get depressed I go to my local Rolex dealer and buy a new watch.

    • @CaptJimDavis
      @CaptJimDavis หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@waynesilva3129 That's a good one! :)

  • @cfi1598
    @cfi1598 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why the bad comments, when trying to save an airport it is a loosing battle.
    Example is the Evergreen Airport in Vancouver, Washington. It was owned by Wally Olson he developed it with another individual after WWII. Taxes were eating it up the family couldn’t keep up with it and had to sell it for development as housing had taken over all surrounding land!

  • @hotttt28
    @hotttt28 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That runway needs FAA money !

    • @LoungeFlyZ
      @LoungeFlyZ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's been completely replaced already. Without FAA money.

    • @epapa737
      @epapa737 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then he wouldn't be able to charge landing fees

  • @navion1946
    @navion1946 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ah, my comments have been deleted. I may need to revisit the value of my AOPA membership.

  • @jeffro369
    @jeffro369 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only viable way for him to make money with the place is a private airpark with very expensive hangar houses and or commercial service to KSEA. I only flew in there for a fun touch and go on a skinny runway.

    • @mh53eflyguy
      @mh53eflyguy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It kinda already is. There is a house next door south of the runway with a beast of a Cessna 180 in Olive Drab colors, and to the west there is a house that has numerous aircraft that he used to taxi over to the property until a fence was put in. To the north there is a four-hangar building and a fire station that is occasionally used for life flights. There easily could be houses on the north side of the runway.

  • @anthonymartin9672
    @anthonymartin9672 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice work, I wish you the best.

  • @TimothyNichols6
    @TimothyNichols6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think the $20 landing fee is fine. Not ideal, and I'd prefer to have well maintained quality public airports free for use. But, I don't think there was any FAA money finding it's way to Whidbey Island for renovation. You can be pretty sure if the FAA was funded sufficiently to do that, we'd all be paying more than $20 extra dollars from our pockets. Keeping this airport alive and available for public use seems like a great outcome to me. Looking forward to seeing the museum also.

  • @johndean2925
    @johndean2925 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My experience with AOPA has not been extremely positive. So thankful you and your airport has found a way to work together and move good projects forward.

  • @erikpetersen3812
    @erikpetersen3812 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Way to go Robert. Will be visiting. Thanks for supporting aviation in our region.

  • @willstadnyk7209
    @willstadnyk7209 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All the very best in the Airport operation, you are to be commended for all the hard work you have put into this operation👍👍🛩

  • @michaeltucker8145
    @michaeltucker8145 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Awesome! Thank you, Robert!

  • @deani2431
    @deani2431 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    AOPA:
    - UL100 available? Nope.
    - BasicMed to Canada? Nope.
    - My membership? Cancelled.

  • @ChrisAV8
    @ChrisAV8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Robert: Great video! We support you all the way. I'd gladly pay $20 to land at your airport. Keep fighting the good fight!

  • @keithhoward9238
    @keithhoward9238 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I salute 🫡 you 💯 👏 🙌

  • @DanFrederiksen
    @DanFrederiksen หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A lot of money can make a lot of things better :) but yes little runways everywhere could potentially make GA a very viable means to get around. Some better lower cost planes would be needed too. instead of the post WW2 junkyard we do have.

  • @mattheww8695
    @mattheww8695 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic story, fantastic spokesperson. What an adventure.

  • @dtangent
    @dtangent หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not sure why pilots are complaining about just $20, considering what they’re paying for just 1 flight hour! $20 is nothing!
    Also, if it’s private airport, those landing fees can help sustain the airport for long run, and hopefully a return to his investment! Who else has money to build airport, spend all his money for you to land for free?!
    People just love to complain

  • @whoanelly737-8
    @whoanelly737-8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I’m sorry this sounds like some liberal propaganda piece.

    • @hawkgreenway821
      @hawkgreenway821 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don’t understand your comment. What part of what is liberal propaganda?

    • @elefja1
      @elefja1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hawkgreenway821 my thought exactly. This dude is a product of capitalism, if you want to say something is liberal take a look at our subsidized airports that we all enjoy for free minus our tax dollars

  • @_FNQ
    @_FNQ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A solid vision, I say good luck to the gentleman.
    We need more airfields throughout the world.