Raymond Daniel, aside from great martial artist, is a terrific human being and father. Btw, I love WCL... its very entertaining. No ground sex rule is very good...
i wouldn't necessarily say taekwondo is weak. it's got its positive and negatives, just like any other martial art. it also depends on the operator as well. put an extremely seasoned taekwondo fighter against practitioners of other martial arts, and i'm sure he or she could hold their own.
i know MR.D ,he has trained my daughter a few times ,i look forward to him working with her as much as possable. he and all the po1 senseis are the best in the biz ! and the nicest people i know...
Hate to break it to you mate, but Raymond fort a K-1 rule fight the other week against a Thai boxer....Raymond Knocked him out with a spinning heel kick.
Search Raymond Daniels vs Andy Bakewell. It may not be an official K1 sanctioned fight but the rules were the same. It would also be EXTREMELY difficult to "hammer his lead leg repeatedly" because Raymond fights from much farther away (because of his bltiz) than a K1 fight would be used to.
like brock lesnar didn't get "demolished" in his UFC debut to frank mir? even moreso than daniels did. at least raymond lasted two rounds. brock submitted in a minute thirty. don't hear you saying anything about that.
@AintDoneYet123 yeah it is. dutch style is better with punches but the power i think belongs to muay thai. as well as kicks and clinch. as well as knees and elbows. but u shuld use ur hands mostly anyway when u fight to set up the kicks. so idk which is better. hard call.
@raphtkd well, if you do martial arts, you have several techniques, that you like and you good at. You use these on a competition. When you start the fight you got to decide which ones can be effective against that person. And you only have seconds for that. And in Daniels' case he's got routine and strategy too
Daniels can fight with his hands down because he's extremely fast (faster than anybody in K1) and because he fights from much farther away than most kick-boxers since he is able to close distance extremely quickly using his blitz. I encourage you to check out his K1 fights if you haven't already; He's done quite well.
What about if the WCL instituted a VCA-style scoring? In professional pool, a team's members are ranked according to their previous performance, kindof like an ELO system. If a 3 ranked pool player is fighting a 6, the 6 has a handicap. COuld be interesting, and lend some actual team strategy to the league. Persoanlly, I think the WCL has all kinds of potential. The crispness of the technique is a sharp contrast to "MMA".
maybe you dont know...but there are many styles of tkd, just like there are many forms of other martial arts. Joe Rogan has probably been involved in the kind of tkd that focuses on point sparring. but, there are also branches that have it for more self defense purposes. Anderson Silva uses both Muay thai AND tkd in his fights, I think that proves enough.
Rickson had nice Ground and Pound but he never fought a decent striker. I would have liked to see him fight Wanderlei Silva in PRIDE. The Gracies have been producing goo students who become MMA fighters. Grappling is essential to MMA but it is important to cross-train. Daniels lost to Metcalf because he didn't have a ground game or takedown defense. If he cross-trained he could be a force.
@AintDoneYet123 i watch some muay thai here and there. alot of fast power strikes. alotta kncokouts lol. they shuld use more head movement and footwork but i mean..it works very very well. i train in muay thai when im at school under this pro kickboxer. he's real good man. i think to b e the best u gotta train in both tho for sure.
My brother wants to fight you soo bad to the quebec open in april...he just started after 13 years break...fo sure you gonna win it ...but hes traaining hard to reach the grand champ...and if he does im gonna post the fight :P
I will post this once..i get tired of the bashers..one thing raymond daniels is a great fighter..in the sence that hes entertaining and thats exactly what chuck norris wanted for this..hes electric..second not everyone wants to see mma fighting it can get slow...or end too quick..wcl and kickboxing is a spectators sport...dont hate on somone just becuase they arent what you want them to be..his attitude is humble outside the ring i know for a fact..its just a show..and he beats people down lol
If you'd seen more of Ray's fights you would know that was hardly "a lucky kick." I've seen him hit many people with it in sport karate and wcl he definitely knows how to throw it. I also know ray won the whole event (or whatever its called, I'm not going to pretend to know more a bout K1 than I do; search Raymond Daniels vs Mark Casserly). I also don't think Ray could just show up in K1 and start dominating the top fighters. But i think if he trained for those rules more he could be a contender
you were saying that tkd doesn't allow punches, and the itf clearly does. saying itf sucks doesn't excuse that you were wrong. ...and i'm sure you'd get your ass handed to you in one of their tournaments.
lol, you're just mad cause I was right. Believe me, there is sport tkd, which is more wide spread cause its easier to advertise, and then there is traditional tkd which works. I just has to be blended with other elements, just like every other martial art.
In MMA. There's no grappling in the WCL. And modern Mixed Martial Arts is all about being Multi-Dimensional. You can't come in there with just BJJ anymore. Royce Gracie in his prime would get tooled by Georges St. Pierre worse than he did against Matt Hughes. GSP could force him to stand and pick him apart or take him down and pound him. I love the Gracies but the sport has passed them by. There isn't a single Gracie in the Top 10 of any weight class in MMA.
Daniels is one if not the Most talented martial artist in the WCL he's entertaining to watch fight but I hate his taunting its disrespectful and annoying
Alright you win, I never asked for this debate ok? just saying it's not the MA that counts, its the fighter. just defending my MA here, no need to be personal o.o i'll agree with you that SOME tkd people suck but hey, there's bound to be someone better. also on your 3rd comment you're just talking about mcdojangs...my dojang isn't like that, they don't cash off people.
@MrStathis77 dude you need to watch and get your facts straight, the wcl has muay thai fighters and they have the clinching rule, watch all the videos:)
i've held my own PLENTY of times against other martial arts. so what're you really sayin'? i ain't on no "foot fist way" shit. pardon me for preparing to get ingnorant, but i does this. true, fighting in the confines of TKD is hella limited, so i fight other styles to mix things up (ie muay thai, karate, etc). i'd be more interesting in fighting in an ITF touney than WTF tho.
seriously i don't think you know what taekwondo means in korean. tae - kick, hand - punch, do - the way. hence 'the way of the punch and kick' so can i ask you one question? what MA do you do? not trying to ague or anything, it looks like you're just ready for a debate.
dude, taekwon-do isn't gay, unless you do ITF and not Olympic style because ITF allows hand attacks to the head. or you can always cross train with boxing.
i remember i was at a karate show once and raymond daniels was sooo annoying! he was just yelling and yelling and then he tried to start this chant thing but no one joined him lol. he sooooo loud!
i don't know how he'd do in the octagon but i have to say, this fight entertained me way more than the majority of the fights i see in the UFC
I missed watching this competition. Brings out the martial artist in you.
Raymond Daniel, aside from great martial artist, is a terrific human being and father. Btw, I love WCL... its very entertaining. No ground sex rule is very good...
NO hes actually a great sport you just get hyped when you always win
i wouldn't necessarily say taekwondo is weak. it's got its positive and negatives, just like any other martial art. it also depends on the operator as well. put an extremely seasoned taekwondo fighter against practitioners of other martial arts, and i'm sure he or she could hold their own.
i know MR.D ,he has trained my daughter a few times ,i look forward to him working with her as much as possable. he and all the po1 senseis are the best in the biz ! and the nicest people i know...
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arent kicks below the waist forbidden in regular kickboxing? Because WCL allows everything above the knee.
Also knee strikes
Yea, I couldnt agree with you more. None the less, this is pretty interesting with all the spinning kicks.
Hate to break it to you mate, but Raymond fort a K-1 rule fight the other week against a Thai boxer....Raymond Knocked him out with a spinning heel kick.
Search Raymond Daniels vs Andy Bakewell. It may not be an official K1 sanctioned fight but the rules were the same. It would also be EXTREMELY difficult to "hammer his lead leg repeatedly" because Raymond fights from much farther away (because of his bltiz) than a K1 fight would be used to.
like brock lesnar didn't get "demolished" in his UFC debut to frank mir? even moreso than daniels did. at least raymond lasted two rounds. brock submitted in a minute thirty. don't hear you saying anything about that.
Raymond is the best
@AintDoneYet123 yeah it is. dutch style is better with punches but the power i think belongs to muay thai. as well as kicks and clinch. as well as knees and elbows. but u shuld use ur hands mostly anyway when u fight to set up the kicks. so idk which is better. hard call.
0:25 *.* this is a fucking awesome combo *.* jump,kick,punch :D
this is exciting stuff. i cant believe i didnt know about this league
This fight is actully fro season 2 not season 1. In season one they wore point fighting foot pads.
glad to see you agree.
What are the rules in WLC?
@raphtkd well, if you do martial arts, you have several techniques, that you like and you good at. You use these on a competition. When you start the fight you got to decide which ones can be effective against that person. And you only have seconds for that. And in Daniels' case he's got routine and strategy too
Daniels can fight with his hands down because he's extremely fast (faster than anybody in K1) and because he fights from much farther away than most kick-boxers since he is able to close distance extremely quickly using his blitz. I encourage you to check out his K1 fights if you haven't already; He's done quite well.
i love semi contact.... but this wcl is perfect raymond we love u!!!
What about if the WCL instituted a VCA-style scoring? In professional pool, a team's members are ranked according to their previous performance, kindof like an ELO system. If a 3 ranked pool player is fighting a 6, the 6 has a handicap. COuld be interesting, and lend some actual team strategy to the league.
Persoanlly, I think the WCL has all kinds of potential. The crispness of the technique is a sharp contrast to "MMA".
I love people fight with kicks like him..of course, I don't like him because he joke too much,but he is a good fighter..I'd like to see him in the K1
Daniels fights hands down, cause he is ferry fast for this people who fight against him so he doesn't have to hold his guard up
doesn't raymond daniels do taekwondo? correct me if i'm wrong please
@MrStathis77 you can't hold but you can do clinching, watch raymond vs blake (muay thai).
maybe you dont know...but there are many styles of tkd, just like there are many forms of other martial arts. Joe Rogan has probably been involved in the kind of tkd that focuses on point sparring. but, there are also branches that have it for more self defense purposes. Anderson Silva uses both Muay thai AND tkd in his fights, I think that proves enough.
@mandag34 no ground brawling = awesome
Um, yes he has a black belt in tkd which he got when he was 18. I still see him do some of the things that i was taught to do.
How would that kicker do in UFC?
The Quattro well, no one knows since he’s never had an MMA fight anyway
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karate rulezz!
IF Raymond is this damn good. Why he's not fighting in K-1? That extreme Kickboxer competition.
Should have the nickname PITCHER. . he just pours it on. . Yeah!!!
@deadsailor86 Statement that bruce lee made a long time ago!!
Лучший боец!!!
que es esto?
thank you :)
Some people may argue that it's 'weak'.
But it looks fucking awesome, that's a fact.
Daniels would destroy any Gracie in a WCL match. He didn't do so hot in his Strikeforce MMA debut though.
This is 100% taekwondo!!!
The punches dont look very tae kwon do
@deadsailor86 I dont know if you are aware of it. but you are quoting bruce lee.
Rickson had nice Ground and Pound but he never fought a decent striker. I would have liked to see him fight Wanderlei Silva in PRIDE. The Gracies have been producing goo students who become MMA fighters. Grappling is essential to MMA but it is important to cross-train. Daniels lost to Metcalf because he didn't have a ground game or takedown defense. If he cross-trained he could be a force.
Daniels throws a kick the Gracie goes for a twisting arm lock then an armbar and it's over
@AintDoneYet123 i watch some muay thai here and there. alot of fast power strikes. alotta kncokouts lol. they shuld use more head movement and footwork but i mean..it works very very well. i train in muay thai when im at school under this pro kickboxer. he's real good man. i think to b e the best u gotta train in both tho for sure.
My brother wants to fight you soo bad to the quebec open in april...he just started after 13 years break...fo sure you gonna win it ...but hes traaining hard to reach the grand champ...and if he does im gonna post the fight :P
I will post this once..i get tired of the bashers..one thing raymond daniels is a great fighter..in the sence that hes entertaining and thats exactly what chuck norris wanted for this..hes electric..second not everyone wants to see mma fighting it can get slow...or end too quick..wcl and kickboxing is a spectators sport...dont hate on somone just becuase they arent what you want them to be..his attitude is humble outside the ring i know for a fact..its just a show..and he beats people down lol
does every city have a team i know denever does
If you'd seen more of Ray's fights you would know that was hardly "a lucky kick." I've seen him hit many people with it in sport karate and wcl he definitely knows how to throw it. I also know ray won the whole event (or whatever its called, I'm not going to pretend to know more a bout K1 than I do; search Raymond Daniels vs Mark Casserly). I also don't think Ray could just show up in K1 and start dominating the top fighters. But i think if he trained for those rules more he could be a contender
you were saying that tkd doesn't allow punches, and the itf clearly does. saying itf sucks doesn't excuse that you were wrong.
...and i'm sure you'd get your ass handed to you in one of their tournaments.
Will people ever get tired of saying which fighting style is better than what and just watch the video?
i was just pertaining to the gracie thing you said. oh well
@deadsailor86 could not have said it better myself man your 100% right
Daniels is good but doesn't have the sprawl to compete in mma yet. Crazy kicks though, potential to KO anyone who stands with him.
yes, and it has one 3 minute round which makes it more entertaining and challenging than K1 or King Of Sanda. just saying dude
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you do know this is a striking match right???
i'll answer that question when i understand it.
lol, you're just mad cause I was right. Believe me, there is sport tkd, which is more wide spread cause its easier to advertise, and then there is traditional tkd which works. I just has to be blended with other elements, just like every other martial art.
they run it on VS. chuck norris is partners in it
He's a karate man, I believe.
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I think he could b a version of Tekken's Hwoarang except 4 some shit.
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@deadsailor86 Or just keep the peace, and not worry about something as silly as fighting :)
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he's cocky cuz he wants someone to come wipe the grin off his face but he's the best kicker
thats what they said about karate look at machida now
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In MMA. There's no grappling in the WCL. And modern Mixed Martial Arts is all about being Multi-Dimensional. You can't come in there with just BJJ anymore. Royce Gracie in his prime would get tooled by Georges St. Pierre worse than he did against Matt Hughes. GSP could force him to stand and pick him apart or take him down and pound him. I love the Gracies but the sport has passed them by. There isn't a single Gracie in the Top 10 of any weight class in MMA.
MysticNinjaJay MMA is all but not martial art, i respect everything. But this is more intresting than some.guys rolling on floor for 5 mins
are u serious
wat genki sudo
but he does it for fun and the joy of it lol
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Daniels is one if not the Most talented martial artist in the WCL he's entertaining to watch fight but I hate his taunting its disrespectful and annoying
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WATCH his k1 fights
Alright you win, I never asked for this debate ok? just saying it's not the MA that counts, its the fighter. just defending my MA here, no need to be personal o.o i'll agree with you that SOME tkd people suck but hey, there's bound to be someone better.
also on your 3rd comment you're just talking about mcdojangs...my dojang isn't like that, they don't cash off people.
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ooh damn is this guy bad. He fears each kick and cannot even cover his head
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@MrStathis77 dude you need to watch and get your facts straight, the wcl has muay thai fighters and they have the clinching rule, watch all the videos:)
i've held my own PLENTY of times against other martial arts. so what're you really sayin'?
i ain't on no "foot fist way" shit. pardon me for preparing to get ingnorant, but i does this.
true, fighting in the confines of TKD is hella limited, so i fight other styles to mix things up (ie muay thai, karate, etc). i'd be more interesting in fighting in an ITF touney than WTF tho.
RIckson was awesome but he was not a standup fighter. I don't think he would do well striking with Anderson Silva for instance.
lol, ur like one of those people who plug their ears and go "lalalala" even when presented as a fact. Good luck with that in life
seriously i don't think you know what taekwondo means in korean. tae - kick, hand - punch, do - the way. hence 'the way of the punch and kick' so can i ask you one question? what MA do you do? not trying to ague or anything, it looks like you're just ready for a debate.
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dude, taekwon-do isn't gay, unless you do ITF and not Olympic style because ITF allows hand attacks to the head. or you can always cross train with boxing.
i dont know man
u can call him ,....and challenge him if u want
u can find his nr, in youtube.....
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just throw in a Gracie there and it's over. armbar in 3 seconds
Its kickboxing, shut up.
you just said it, cross train with boxing meaning TKD alone its SHIT
i remember i was at a karate show once and raymond daniels was sooo annoying! he was just yelling and yelling and then he tried to start this chant thing but no one joined him lol. he sooooo loud!
no hes style is karate hes my sensei....
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I didnt say I would beat him I just said the way they fight is sloppy and if you think Daniels is so good why isn't he taking on guys in K-1
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