I use Windsurf extensively as a hobby point of view, and I do not see big advantages with this new Cursor version, but let's wait 1 month and let's talk again about both programs. It will be crazy!
Exactly, all the things he wishes cursor has, eg picking up console errors, Cline has had for ages and so much more. Plus no subscription. Is this a marketing video?
I am a beginner, and I don’t like switching between AI assistants. I will stick with Cursor, as the price is not an issue for me. :) thanks for the video :)
Josh, your content is helpful; it would be even more helpful if you took a stand and offered your judgement on which AI is better for various purposes at any given time. It feels like you want to be as neutral as possible and not offend anyone.
Next time screen shot the errors and submit it in composer as an image. I'll stay with Windsurf even though image upload is not available yet. Something tells me Windsurfs next update will be huge and start to run away in the AI IDE space
If you’re a dev, then what about the prompt limits ? I used cursor bought credits on OpenAI and Anthropic and I couldn’t use the features. To hell with cursor.
This is the silliest argument i hear all the time. if you're doing coding, your work is economically valuable enough that you probably don't make less than $30/hr. And all these tools should save a lot more than a mere hour. If one is notably better, it should wash the $10 difference.
@@TheRevAlokSingh It's not just the $10. Claude Sonnet is free in Windsurf. This saves around 20$ a day in API calls and you don't hit API rate limits. As someone who doesn't earn a living from coding, this is huge.
@TheRevAlokSingh You clearly speak from a place of financial privilege. Not everyone comes from that and not everyone has a high paying coding job. So yes, for some people in some countries $10mo. absolutely does make the difference. $10 is 1/3 of a month’s income in some countries. Some people need free tools to get started. I’m not here to judge other people’s pockets. You should try the same.
@@danquixote6072 Exactly this. You see it. Tech bros are some of the most arrogant people I’ve met. Not everyone who is interested in coding has a high paying coding job where they can afford to pay for countless subscriptions each month.
As a developer who writes a lot of code and uses Composer very sparingly, I believe it would be far more effective for the Cursor team to double down on their strength Tab especially now that SuperMaven has joined. Rushing an update just to keep up with SurfWind feels counterproductive. Enhancing the tab experience, which aligns better with how many of us actually work, would add far more value than chasing features that might not resonate with the core user base.
When these tools are full fledged- I’d easily pay $100-$200 per month. It’s much cheaper than hiring an entire team or having employees. My time is valuable enough. But not until they’re better - they’re not good enough now. There’s too many inconsistencies. Not knowing the latest documentation etc (next js 15 vs 13 - as seen in the video it used 13). Context windows are small. Etc but love where we are heading. When these tools are full fledged- I’d easily pay $100-$200 per month. It’s much cheaper than hiring an entire team or having employees. My time is valuable enough. But not until they’re better - they’re not good enough now. There’s too many inconsistencies. Not knowing the latest documentation etc (next js 15 vs 13 - as seen in the video it used 13).
Man , are you showing us the new feature or you are learning it ? You should learn before you demo, you know that right ?
Similar to what windsurf is already doing with their current version. So it seems cascade has overtook cursor if it is only now publishing agent.
I use Windsurf extensively as a hobby point of view, and I do not see big advantages with this new Cursor version, but let's wait 1 month and let's talk again about both programs. It will be crazy!
Cursor and Windsurf are fighting over which is the best AI coding agent, while Aider and Cline are laughing in the corner.
Exactly, all the things he wishes cursor has, eg picking up console errors, Cline has had for ages and so much more. Plus no subscription.
Is this a marketing video?
Cline costs a shit load compared to either of these. @@dmoshal
I am a beginner, and I don’t like switching between AI assistants. I will stick with Cursor, as the price is not an issue for me. :) thanks for the video :)
@@micbab-vg2mu I completely get that! thanks for watching 🙏
In the end, Cursor uses Claude Sonnet, GPT4o...
So Cursor gets the best withing it.
Cursor is great.
What theme do you use I really like it
If you are #Windsurf team click like 💪
Do you guys know how i can use windsurf with other llm endpoints? Like mistral, deepseek, groq etc?
@hb985 You mean to add their API? If so Windsurf is not an open source, for the moment, there's no way to other LLM
@@ncodeai thanks for the fast reply! 🙏
seems like the changelog page you were on is the only way to get the .43 version that has the composer/agent. good to know
I subscribed to Windsurf because it's cheaper, but I do hope Windsurf Chat can load pictures in the future.
They did say in their discord that feature is coming really soon, probably next week.
Josh, your content is helpful; it would be even more helpful if you took a stand and offered your judgement on which AI is better for various purposes at any given time. It feels like you want to be as neutral as possible and not offend anyone.
Next time screen shot the errors and submit it in composer as an image. I'll stay with Windsurf even though image upload is not available yet. Something tells me Windsurfs next update will be huge and start to run away in the AI IDE space
If you’re a dev, then what about the prompt limits ? I used cursor bought credits on OpenAI and Anthropic and I couldn’t use the features. To hell with cursor.
the war about AI field is intense all the time.one word can describe the situation _push
It hasn't rolled my way yet.
Cursor is overpriced for its features and limits.
Cursor is still $20mo. $10mo for windsurf is good for me.
This is the silliest argument i hear all the time. if you're doing coding, your work is economically valuable enough that you probably don't make less than $30/hr. And all these tools should save a lot more than a mere hour. If one is notably better, it should wash the $10 difference.
@@TheRevAlokSingh It's not just the $10. Claude Sonnet is free in Windsurf. This saves around 20$ a day in API calls and you don't hit API rate limits. As someone who doesn't earn a living from coding, this is huge.
@TheRevAlokSingh You clearly speak from a place of financial privilege. Not everyone comes from that and not everyone has a high paying coding job. So yes, for some people in some countries $10mo. absolutely does make the difference. $10 is 1/3 of a month’s income in some countries. Some people need free tools to get started. I’m not here to judge other people’s pockets. You should try the same.
@@danquixote6072 Exactly this. You see it. Tech bros are some of the most arrogant people I’ve met. Not everyone who is interested in coding has a high paying coding job where they can afford to pay for countless subscriptions each month.
As a developer who writes a lot of code and uses Composer very sparingly, I believe it would be far more effective for the Cursor team to double down on their strength Tab especially now that SuperMaven has joined. Rushing an update just to keep up with SurfWind feels counterproductive. Enhancing the tab experience, which aligns better with how many of us actually work, would add far more value than chasing features that might not resonate with the core user base.
Rushing? They been working this for almost two months
And I've been part of the cursor community sense they began and I assure you it sits very well with them
I'm already change from Cursor to Windsurf, because it is cheap than Cursor.
check out AIDE
Wait until you try Exponent.... Ridiculously good.
Also, notepad took the place of projects ages ago.
Yeah but it's 50 bucks a month. You only get 20 executions on the free plan absolutely ridiculous.
I did a quick "attempted" signup etc with Exponent
So many bugs and crashed, not even funny
When these tools are full fledged- I’d easily pay $100-$200 per month. It’s much cheaper than hiring an entire team or having employees. My time is valuable enough.
But not until they’re better - they’re not good enough now. There’s too many inconsistencies.
Not knowing the latest documentation etc (next js 15 vs 13 - as seen in the video it used 13).
Context windows are small. Etc but love where we are heading.
When these tools are full fledged- I’d easily pay $100-$200 per month. It’s much cheaper than hiring an entire team or having employees. My time is valuable enough.
But not until they’re better - they’re not good enough now. There’s too many inconsistencies. Not knowing the latest documentation etc (next js 15 vs 13 - as seen in the video it used 13).
We are tired with those titles something beats something and something and something, you keep rotating around the tools beating each other
Don't write beats anything blindly unless and until you test the same prompt in all apps like windsurf to find out who performed it better.
Worthless