I cannot recall the exact reference now, but I believe it is from an Allied WWII campaign where the ship carrying the cavalry/pack horses/mules for the invasion had to push the animals over the side (as you describe) to get them to swim to shore. Unfortunately, the animals grouped up and started swimming in the opposite direction, out to sea! The handler, thinking quickly and smartly, got out the bugle and sounded "retreat" at which point the animals turned around and swam safely towards the shore!
I believe that was when the US invaded Cuba during the Spanish American War. There was no harbor or dock when the ships unloaded so they just made the horses swim to shore. They used the bugle to get them to swim in the right direction.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. - Acts 3:19 If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna/Rpc, Urcna, or a canrc church (These are conservative and actual Presbyterian churches) If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church. If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC. (Different from the Church of Scotland) If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England (Different from the Church of England) Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations.
I have never left a comment on youtube but without a doubt Mr Hicks is among the very best at this genre I have seen, his pieces are well researched and he is a natural story teller. As a history graduate originally and former army reservist (my own operational outing was Bosnia) he really strikes a chord with me. One of the very few who can really get beneath the surface of what it felt like to live, work and fight in past times. Quite outstanding work.
@@longsword1969 history squad tho has a very personal style to it, like you are the focus of the topic. Everything is geared toward you as a viewer. Rather than watching some history/discovery channel type presentation. 😉
The episode about horses was excellent. Where did thousands of starving dysentery ridden English on the road before Agincourt get the feed for even more thousands of horses?Also, Kevin could you do a detailed episode on your method of shooting a Longbow?
Watching military logistics videos from this time period gives you a greater appreciation for why leaders who managed to get their troops to a battle "a day or two faster than expected" was such a monumental feat and an amazing tactical move of the times. It was a monumental task to move at normal speeds let alone double time.
Military logistics is a tricky thing even today. And it´s still deciding the outcome of campaigns. I knew someone who flew a FW190 in WW2. When asked how they decided which nissions to fly he replied: If we had ammo and fuel , we might fly. If we hadn´t we didn´t. They also made sure they had enough fuel to make a getaway if the airdome was about to be overrun. They had a getaway bird if you will.
I love these TH-cam History channels. Decades ago, I was the guy sitting down watching The History Channel and Discovery Channel, etc all night long before there was a TH-cam. As far as TH-cam, I love "The History Guy" (general and varied history) and Mark Felton(mainly WWII), but Kevin here is my absolute favorite. I want to buy an "I've made a model" t-shirt!
Richard the Lion Heart was a past master of logistics and supplies. He would beggar off a campaign if he could not sustain his army, especially the horses for the heavy and light cavalry.
Wow never noticed how much preparation went into the getting the horses ready for everything at how many people it took thank you again Kevin it is always a joy to watch the amazing work and and your wife put into your videos you and your wife have a wonderful day thank you for the TH-cam channel
@@ltipst2962 I think Anthony meant 'beg off', but that's not quite right because the king would be the one telling his marshals what the strategy would be, not the one excusing a change of heart.
Good stuff Kevin. My great grandfather survived almost three years at the Somme in the Great War. He was about a mile and a half behind the lines, looking after the horses. Came home without a scratch. Good old Grandad Von Staffenberg!
@@thehistorysquad Sorry Kevin that German bit was just a joke. The rest is true. He did come home, physically unscathed. He was a Jones, from Ruabon. Keep it up!
I quite agree, you can find much information about more recent history, but Mr. Hicks explains al lot about the Middle Ages, a period often forgot. I really love it. Mr Hicks really makes the puzzle complete. Wonderful information!
As someone who has a 16 hh mare that is generally regarded as small, it is absolutely wild to me how small horses were in the past. Sure, people were less tall as well, but putting a full grown man (plus armpur!) on a pony and expecting it to last the whole battle - that’s some mad respect deserved by the horse!
The knights were probably part of the nobility and aristocracy and had access to better food, particularly protein so they were likely to have been taller than peasants. There was also the idea that the higher ups had to eat food prepared in different ways from commoners' food.
This was incredibly interesting and something I had not given much thought to either. The logistics and planning required just to procure and transport the horses was immense, let alone the men, baggage train, weapons, armour and food! While on the subject, can you imagine the huge cavalry forces the Mongols used to field, 30,000 men on horses or more. The amount of food and care required to do such a thing is truly mind boggling. Thanks again Kevin.
The Mongols typically started a campaign with four horses per man. Since the Mongols rarely if ever fed their horses grain, they reckoned that the horses needed three days of intermittent grazing on the move to have the extra energy to bear their man on the fourth. I have always wondered how they kept the horses straight or just assigned random horses each day.
Brillant. Very well explained. Years ago I met a fella - Charlie Pasco, I think was his name - who once brought and sold horses for the British army in Inda. He told my husband and I many things about the selection, and breeding of the horses he had always called Bounders. History knows them as Walers (Australian stockhorses of colonial bloodlines) We were traveling from the Northern Territory to NSW (with a Waler, bred wild/feral in the NT. and my Anglo Arab) at the time and were stopped in Queensland for a couple of days, I wish we could have spent more time with this fella. So many stories. He spoke a little about the logistics of transporting by ship from Aust. to Inda. One story I remember was of an Officer who wanted a piebald, so at length they did find and buy a piebald for him... which do you think was the first horse to die on that voyage!
This is a very interesting subject Kevin. Growing up on a farm in Michigan, we had cattle & hogs. Most people don't realize the care that's necessary for a large herd of cattle. I know for a fact that a large steer or horse can suck down 5 gallons of water in just seconds when there thirsty. The logistics your discussing here would have been mind boggling for there campaigns. Thanks so much for this presentation.
Brilliant episode, I am now more interested in the logistics of military campaigns than the actual battles, for without logistics no battle can be won or even started with any chance of success
Enjoyed this and often visit the Royal Armouries in Leeds. I have 6 horses myself. The horse has served mankind well for centuries. The Boer War lasted 970 days and over 300 horses died daily. Few horses have returned from wars and the ordinary soldier couldn't afford to bring his beloved equine home.
@@thehistorysquad But maybe a boon for the local inhabitants of a battle area? The local people would have made use of the horse flesh and leather etc i would imagine? I wonder if, after a Battle, the local population would be getting their wagons ready to go out and gather up the poor creatures? Who gets to salvage the Armour and Weapons after a Battle? That would be a fortune worth of suits of Armour etc after a Battle. A shear fortune! If i was a peasent back then, id be sitting at the side of the Battlefield just waiting for my opportunity to loot the unfortunates. If not even, id be getting an operation together to completely strip the aftermarth of a Battle. Youd be a fool not to!
@@dancummane3668 Here's a link to a video that covers battlefield salvage. If they had time, they would bury the horses. th-cam.com/video/BHtBUDfI53I/w-d-xo.html
Ahhh as a farrier in Warwickshire this has become one of my favourite videos instantly. I’m far too fascinated with the types of horses in the medieval period 😂
I thought about this before and wasn't able to imagine "the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria" supplying the number of people on the voyage. I even considered most horses were probably very young ponies during shipping. Amazing stuff. Imagine them witnessing our modern efforts. Haha
I'm part of a living history group in Alaska that builds a 14th century English village every year, and you've been a great source of information. If you're ever in Anchorage in June, drop us a line!
Thanks for yet another fascinating video and for taking the time to illustrate it with your beautiful models. So many points I hadn't considered, especially regarding the loading and unloading of these magnificent beasts. The image of grooms swimming dozens or even hundreds of horses to shore is captivating.
Great models, as always! Funny how horses are treated in works of fiction, like sports cars that the heroes can jump on and ride, then jump off of to get on with their "heroing." Horses are surprisingly delicate animals, requiring quite a lot of care to keep fit. Also, actual warhorses had such a fearsome reputation that it has been said a destrier's worth might be measured in the number of grooms it had killed. =^[.]^=
It's a *really* old trope! In the "Illiad", that's how all the heroes use their chariots, even though the more practical way to fight with chariots is to rush the enemy's weakest point, let loose a couple spears/arrows/darts, speed away, and do it again somewhere else. (That seems to have been how charioteers were fighting in the Middle East at the same time.) And from our limited sources, the "battle taxi" approach is also how the Celts used their chariots, about a thousand years after the events described in the "Illiad".
Great video! I'm trying to wrap my mind around the vast amounts of stables,training yards and sheer numbers of horses it would take to field an army. Not even speaking of the farm horses and just horses anyone rode. Massive amounts of land must have been dedicated to horses. Amazing!
A very interesting lesson on something very important to any campaign, movement and logistics! Thanks Kevin, for the important tidbits. Cheers from Texas.
Love the strategy of using the wine and honey (18:58) as an antiseptic prior to injury on the legs of the horses. Your videos are always fantastic. Thank you!
I love all of your videos, especially when dealing with medieval history. But this one really got my attention. My dad was a farrier, so I grew up with horses and am always looking for details related to them in film. A little side note: farriers often have a bit of smithing knowledge. While the shoes are most often prefabricated, many farriers travel with an acetylene torch and anvil in order to shape shoes to a perfect fit. Thanks for all that you do, and keep them coming!
Thank you Mr. Hicks. This is one aspect of logistics that I have never seriously explored - but one so crucially important in Medieval times. I have learnt a lot.
Sir let me just say, you were born to run a channel like this. The whole video i lost track of time and totally forgot what i was even doing or thinking about. Great job sir, great job.
This was wonderful as a horse woman myself and lover of medieval history. I've never seen such a comprehensive breakdown and the model was too much fun! Cheers from CA!
That was a fun history lesson. The getaway horse was new to me. Mike Loads had a documentary where he stated that the chargers had gait that was unpleasant for the rider over longer distances and that the charger was too valuable to be used as travel horse and risk injury. Those extra chargers must have required extra armour too. It´s facinating to see the logistics behind having a horse on the battlefield.
Very interesting. Being a horseman myself, I always wondered how they managed to get everything together to care, feed and get the horses to their destination. What a wonderful illustration! I always enjoy your history lessons! Brings history to life, so to speak!
I think of the logistics of loading and carrying horses on a campaign, particularly on ship and I feel like Scrooge talking to Marley: “I’d rather not.” I have some experience with horses and riding myself, nothing like a great big charger but something that a yeoman might have; I think the closest we could get to one is an Icelandic pony. Not only have the Icelandics never been bread with another breed they have a special gait that is halfway between with canter and trot and the amazing thing is that gait barely bounces the rider so you can ride for quite a while with out getting sore or tired and for the ponies it’s almost like putting them in autopilot.
16:36 They might get dizzy but they wouldn't vomit. Horses are one of the few mammals that are unable to, which is why it's so important to keep poisons away from them btw.
Interesting history! I also enjoyed learning the origin of the word “constable”. My husband has a lot of family in Mississippi involved in horse work. His nephew is a farrier, and the nephew and others have kept horses and done endurance rides. An uncle managed an Arabian horse ranch for years. It is amazing they moved those horses with what little they had back then!
One of few channels I have notifications on. Enjoy this lad educating me. It is so interesting to listen when the speaker habe genuine passion for the subject.
Fascinating! The logistics of these campaigns is always a surprise, remember reading that even the ordinary Mongol soldier had around 5 horses each, meaning an army could literally contain hundreds of thousands of horses!
Your curiosity is priceless Kevin, you fill in the blanks left by scriptwriters and fiction writers. In real life nothing just ‘appears’ ammunition alone is a massive undertaking. Well done this is real source material.👏🏻
WOW. That was extremely eye-opening, Mr. Hicks. We never learned any of this in school. Time for all of us to start a petition for you to receive the O.B.E.
Kevin I’m in the opinion you could talk about grass growing for 20-30 minutes and make it riveting. I really believe that. Every video is just like wow 20 minutes has passed, but I feels likes in only been 2-3 minutes. Absolutely amazing. You have a very special gift for gab. As my mom says. Even with your explanation being so detailed for a short video it’s just a wealth of information on whatever subject your discussing/explaining. It almost always leaves me disappointed, and craving more. Well done brother. One of the best channels on TH-cam. I wish we had your videos back in the days of vinyl records, and tape cassettes. Sure would of helped with my history classes! You would of made a brilliant teacher, or college professor. This from an old army ranger! Lead the way brother!
I love horses. Very informative video! I remember Jason Kingsley over at ModernHistoryTV talking about the horses of a Medieval knight. Learned a lot from your video, too! 👍
Another fascinating video Kev!! I never knew this about the horses. I did know that jousting was a practice for a war situation. So obviously blacksmiths & farriers would have been taken on campaign too! A huge amount of organisation for a campaign as you've touched on before. Keep the great videos coming mate! Dave.
@@thehistorysquad Yes, that is what I have read, about them. I have seen horses that were bred to recreate them how close I don't know. All were, Roman Nose though they were somewhat head strong maybe they put some Bold Ruler in them,ha. I miss being able to ride horses. I don't have my horse she was a class of 93 track rescue, a great sweet gentle horse. I found the loading interesting, Sophie wouldn't have stood for it.
Mister kevin, your videos always cheer me up when im down and i dont know why but you always seem to capture my attention and interest. I thank you very much for everything you do.
As a horse owner and lover of history found this video absolutely fascinating. You are right don't think my would have thought about the logistics of taking horses to war. Thank you for sharing 👍
Wish I had people like you as history teachers during my school time. I might have actually learned something. Horses are such underrated and important animals in pre industrial society we should give them more credit. During Napoleons retreat from Russia and rebuilding of his grande armee the biggest issue he faced was reassembling new cavalry units. Soldiers can be trained in a few weeks and you will always find men willing to fight, horses however need to bred and trained far longer to be used as war animals on the battlefield.
I American from very early English and Irish Colonists. We have been farming here to this Day. My family raised Horses and Mules for Agriculture. I must say that none of this activity would have been possible without Mules and Oxen. They were important for hauling supplies. Just look at the reruns of Gunsmoke. Old Festus rode a Mule@!
Although I have absolutely no interest in horses ... you still manage to make me think ... "give me more knowledge, I want ... no wait !! I NEED to know more about Horses on Campaign"👌 It's a real pleasure to see how must you enjoy telling stories and sharing your knowledge... I get a bit of awe, when I think about how much work, research and planning goes into each and every one of your videos. .. for that I am truly grateful.🙏 many thanks for showing and please keep up the good work 👍
It blows my.mind how these men... achieved all of these amazing feats.. and think about all the people who needed to be on these ships to take care of these animals.. people solely there just to shovel all the manure the horses produce. Just amazing
Hey there again Kevin, I am currently working towards a horse training and care diploma and planning on following it through at university. Anymore horsey stuff you could do would be hugely appreciated. Keep up the fantastic work!!
You know...I've never seen a horse swim...wasn't sure they could....well why not! Crazy how complicated it all was...we never think of all this. Thanks! This is how we should learn history! Your awesome!
Stuttgart Germany... Stuttgart (Stud Farm) the city that now boasts Mercedes started by breeding horses for the numerous commercial needs of medieval Europe. Great research Kevin, this was well thought out and very revealing.
@@thehistorysquad Yeah the logistics of war is so encompassing it bankrupted Europe to launch those crusades. But got to listen to the Pope!!! I can imagine the Kings and Nobles hissing as they hear news from Rome!!! Another Crusade!!! Oh Blimey!!!
@6:55 You are so right. I had a bull that turned nasty on us. I carried a shock stick on the tractor in case I had to keep him ham at baye. It fell off somewhere in the high grass so I took the quarter horse out to find it. I found the shock stick (in the shape of a pipe 75cm long) and got off to retrieve it and the horse went to grazing as soon as I got off. I held the shock stick in my left hand and put my hand to the horn as I put my foot in the stirrup and went to mount the saddle when she picked her head up, she saw this strange pipe and in full quarter horse fashion took off before I was seated in the saddle. By the time I could bail she was going full speed and I hit the ground harder than any time before or since. I leaned, let the horse know what you have in your hand or on your person BEFORE MOUNTING!
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I cannot recall the exact reference now, but I believe it is from an Allied WWII campaign where the ship carrying the cavalry/pack horses/mules for the invasion had to push the animals over the side (as you describe) to get them to swim to shore. Unfortunately, the animals grouped up and started swimming in the opposite direction, out to sea! The handler, thinking quickly and smartly, got out the bugle and sounded "retreat" at which point the animals turned around and swam safely towards the shore!
Wow, what a fantastic story, I love it. If you ever find the reference to it, let me know 👍🏻
I believe that was when the US invaded Cuba during the Spanish American War. There was no harbor or dock when the ships unloaded so they just made the horses swim to shore. They used the bugle to get them to swim in the right direction.
@@thehistorysquadthat's brilliant asking for references. Love the channel.
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Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
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If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna/Rpc, Urcna, or a canrc church
(These are conservative and actual Presbyterian churches)
If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church.
If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC.
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If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England
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Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations.
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I have never left a comment on youtube but without a doubt Mr Hicks is among the very best at this genre I have seen, his pieces are well researched and he is a natural story teller. As a history graduate originally and former army reservist (my own operational outing was Bosnia) he really strikes a chord with me. One of the very few who can really get beneath the surface of what it felt like to live, work and fight in past times. Quite outstanding work.
Wow, that's very kind of you Gordon. Thank you.
Modern history Channel is also one.
@@longsword1969 history squad tho has a very personal style to it, like you are the focus of the topic. Everything is geared toward you as a viewer. Rather than watching some history/discovery channel type presentation. 😉
The episode about horses was excellent. Where did thousands of starving dysentery ridden English on the road before Agincourt get the feed for even more thousands of horses?Also, Kevin could you do a detailed episode on your method of shooting a Longbow?
Count of the stable ,morphed into Constable! Its details like that that make these videos so interesting..Im definitely hooked !
Watching military logistics videos from this time period gives you a greater appreciation for why leaders who managed to get their troops to a battle "a day or two faster than expected" was such a monumental feat and an amazing tactical move of the times. It was a monumental task to move at normal speeds let alone double time.
Military logistics is a tricky thing even today. And it´s still deciding the outcome of campaigns. I knew someone who flew a FW190 in WW2. When asked how they decided which nissions to fly he replied: If we had ammo and fuel , we might fly. If we hadn´t we didn´t. They also made sure they had enough fuel to make a getaway if the airdome was about to be overrun. They had a getaway bird if you will.
I love his little intricately detailed models of the battle scenes and the full period garb. He is a treasure.
i was totally engaged during this video, i really enjoyed it, i never could have imagined how involved it was.. wow
I love these TH-cam History channels. Decades ago, I was the guy sitting down watching The History Channel and Discovery Channel, etc all night long before there was a TH-cam. As far as TH-cam, I love "The History Guy" (general and varied history) and Mark Felton(mainly WWII), but Kevin here is my absolute favorite. I want to buy an "I've made a model" t-shirt!
😜 cheers buddy, it’s in the pipeline 👍
@thehistorysquad Excellent! I'm waiting in Portugal, shouldn't be too far to ship it lol.
Richard the Lion Heart was a past master of logistics and supplies. He would beggar off a campaign if he could not sustain his army, especially the horses for the heavy and light cavalry.
Love your videos Mr Keven my favourite is the arrow removal from king Henry the 5th...
That was a good one, thanks 👍🏻
Wow never noticed how much preparation went into the getting the horses ready for everything at how many people it took thank you again Kevin it is always a joy to watch the amazing work and and your wife put into your videos you and your wife have a wonderful day thank you for the TH-cam channel
You've made me second guess bugger off. Aw no
@@ltipst2962 I think Anthony meant 'beg off', but that's not quite right because the king would be the one telling his marshals what the strategy would be, not the one excusing a change of heart.
I love this type of history, makes the old times come alive. Logistics is cool
Good stuff Kevin. My great grandfather survived almost three years at the Somme in the Great War. He was about a mile and a half behind the lines, looking after the horses. Came home without a scratch. Good old Grandad Von Staffenberg!
Cool!! My GGF is still there unfortunately.
@@thehistorysquad Sorry Kevin that German bit was just a joke. The rest is true. He did come home, physically unscathed. He was a Jones, from Ruabon.
Keep it up!
Sounds like they were in great care, Good one Granddad.
@@thehistorysquad thats a shame
I quite agree, you can find much information about more recent history, but Mr. Hicks explains al lot about the Middle Ages, a period often forgot.
I really love it. Mr Hicks really makes the puzzle complete. Wonderful information!
Amateurs study tactics -- Professionals study logistics.
Thank you for sharing.
As someone who has a 16 hh mare that is generally regarded as small, it is absolutely wild to me how small horses were in the past. Sure, people were less tall as well, but putting a full grown man (plus armpur!) on a pony and expecting it to last the whole battle - that’s some mad respect deserved by the horse!
The knights were probably part of the nobility and aristocracy and had access to better food, particularly protein so they were likely to have been taller than peasants. There was also the idea that the higher ups had to eat food prepared in different ways from commoners' food.
This was incredibly interesting and something I had not given much thought to either. The logistics and planning required just to procure and transport the horses was immense, let alone the men, baggage train, weapons, armour and food!
While on the subject, can you imagine the huge cavalry forces the Mongols used to field, 30,000 men on horses or more. The amount of food and care required to do such a thing is truly mind boggling.
Thanks again Kevin.
Absolutely incredible 👍🏻
The Mongols typically started a campaign with four horses per man. Since the Mongols rarely if ever fed their horses grain, they reckoned that the horses needed three days of intermittent grazing on the move to have the extra energy to bear their man on the fourth. I have always wondered how they kept the horses straight or just assigned random horses each day.
Mongols moved across on vast grass plains to feeds their horses.
But at least they didn’t have to haul them over oceans.
@@leoscheibelhut940 and any horses that went lame they just ate and turned the rest into jerky so double win.
I adore listening to Mr. Hicks, I could watch these videos all day.
This is one of the best channels on medieval history I’ve seen you deserve way more subscribers!
Wow, thank you!
Brillant. Very well explained. Years ago I met a fella - Charlie Pasco, I think was his name - who once brought and sold horses for the British army in Inda. He told my husband and I many things about the selection, and breeding of the horses he had always called Bounders. History knows them as Walers (Australian stockhorses of colonial bloodlines) We were traveling from the Northern Territory to NSW (with a Waler, bred wild/feral in the NT. and my Anglo Arab) at the time and were stopped in Queensland for a couple of days, I wish we could have spent more time with this fella. So many stories. He spoke a little about the logistics of transporting by ship from Aust. to Inda. One story I remember was of an Officer who wanted a piebald, so at length they did find and buy a piebald for him... which do you think was the first horse to die on that voyage!
This is a very interesting subject Kevin. Growing up on a farm in Michigan, we had cattle & hogs. Most people don't realize the care that's necessary for a large herd of cattle. I know for a fact that a large steer or horse can suck down 5 gallons of water in just seconds when there thirsty. The logistics your discussing here would have been mind boggling for there campaigns. Thanks so much for this presentation.
My pleasure, thanks for your comment 👍🏻
Love this, thanks Kevin! No idea what had to happen with horses back then!
Definitely a different subject and one I never considered before. Well done and thank you.
Brilliant episode, I am now more interested in the logistics of military campaigns than the actual battles, for without logistics no battle can be won or even started with any chance of success
Enjoyed this and often visit the Royal Armouries in Leeds. I have 6 horses myself. The horse has served mankind well for centuries. The Boer War lasted 970 days and over 300 horses died daily. Few horses have returned from wars and the ordinary soldier couldn't afford to bring his beloved equine home.
That's the tragedy of it
@@thehistorysquad But maybe a boon for the local inhabitants of a battle area? The local people would have made use of the horse flesh and leather etc i would imagine? I wonder if, after a Battle, the local population would be getting their wagons ready to go out and gather up the poor creatures? Who gets to salvage the Armour and Weapons after a Battle? That would be a fortune worth of suits of Armour etc after a Battle. A shear fortune!
If i was a peasent back then, id be sitting at the side of the Battlefield just waiting for my opportunity to loot the unfortunates. If not even, id be getting an operation together to completely strip the aftermarth of a Battle. Youd be a fool not to!
@@dancummane3668 Here's a link to a video that covers battlefield salvage. If they had time, they would bury the horses. th-cam.com/video/BHtBUDfI53I/w-d-xo.html
@@dancummane3668 Check out my video 'Striking it Rich' it's about plunder and how it was shared etc. 👍🏻
Ahhh as a farrier in Warwickshire this has become one of my favourite videos instantly. I’m far too fascinated with the types of horses in the medieval period 😂
Excellent, glad to hear it Sam, thanks. I used to ride with the Knights of Middle England at Warwick Riding School, I'm sure you'd be familiar 👍🏻
Thank you for making your narrative so interesting.
I thought about this before and wasn't able to imagine "the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria" supplying the number of people on the voyage. I even considered most horses were probably very young ponies during shipping. Amazing stuff. Imagine them witnessing our modern efforts. Haha
@@osakarose5612 and they’re dirty and smell like bad BO from working and probably not bathing regularly
We owe horses a lot for their various roles and contributions, throughout the ages. Kevin, you pick and present some great topics. Thank you.
Tempting 👍🏻
Fascinating as ever Kevin, thanks.
Very nice use of models. Thank you for sharing this.
This has been a fascinating video. Thank you.
I'm part of a living history group in Alaska that builds a 14th century English village every year, and you've been a great source of information. If you're ever in Anchorage in June, drop us a line!
Wow Greg, thanks, I'll be sure to do that 👍🏻
Thanks for yet another fascinating video and for taking the time to illustrate it with your beautiful models. So many points I hadn't considered, especially regarding the loading and unloading of these magnificent beasts. The image of grooms swimming dozens or even hundreds of horses to shore is captivating.
It really is quite wow isn't it. Thanks for watching Chris 👍🏻
Great models, as always! Funny how horses are treated in works of fiction, like sports cars that the heroes can jump on and ride, then jump off of to get on with their "heroing." Horses are surprisingly delicate animals, requiring quite a lot of care to keep fit. Also, actual warhorses had such a fearsome reputation that it has been said a destrier's worth might be measured in the number of grooms it had killed. =^[.]^=
It's a *really* old trope! In the "Illiad", that's how all the heroes use their chariots, even though the more practical way to fight with chariots is to rush the enemy's weakest point, let loose a couple spears/arrows/darts, speed away, and do it again somewhere else. (That seems to have been how charioteers were fighting in the Middle East at the same time.) And from our limited sources, the "battle taxi" approach is also how the Celts used their chariots, about a thousand years after the events described in the "Illiad".
Love your videos. I feel like i learn something, while have a bit of a laugh at the same time. 2:40 haha brilliant
Glad to hear it!
I’m a horse woman in Colorado. This is fantastic! My show horse pedigree goes back to the 1600s in England. Please do more of this! Thank you so much❤
Great video! I'm trying to wrap my mind around the vast amounts of stables,training yards and sheer numbers of horses it would take to field an army. Not even speaking of the farm horses and just horses anyone rode. Massive amounts of land must have been dedicated to horses. Amazing!
Fascinating and really well presented. Thoroughly enjoyable.
I love these logistic videos, it’s a subject of the medieval times that I don’t think get enough attention. Keep up the great content!
Thanks, will do!
I think I learned more from this 20 minute video than in all my 4 years of high school history
Your videos are both informative and entertaining, I love a good story!
Glad you like them!
This video has great levels of kenergy
Funny, I was just wondering about this very topic. Excited to jump into the video. Thanks as always.
Cool!
It is INCREDIBLE how you Sir, focus on aspects that nobody explain and tend to forget or simply ignore. Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure!
A very interesting lesson on something very important to any campaign, movement and logistics! Thanks Kevin, for the important tidbits. Cheers from Texas.
Glad you enjoyed it David & thanks as ever for your support 👍🏻
Love the strategy of using the wine and honey (18:58) as an antiseptic prior to injury on the legs of the horses. Your videos are always fantastic. Thank you!
Wow, what a fantastic story, I love it!! Thanks 👍🏻
Again a highly informative video! Never realized the origin and meaning of the "constable". And your models are spot on like always.
Glad you like them!
I love all of your videos, especially when dealing with medieval history. But this one really got my attention. My dad was a farrier, so I grew up with horses and am always looking for details related to them in film. A little side note: farriers often have a bit of smithing knowledge. While the shoes are most often prefabricated, many farriers travel with an acetylene torch and anvil in order to shape shoes to a perfect fit. Thanks for all that you do, and keep them coming!
Cheers Jake, yes, I think I mentioned that the farrier would shape the blanks 👍🏻
Thank you Mr. Hicks. This is one aspect of logistics that I have never seriously explored - but one so crucially important in Medieval times. I have learnt a lot.
Sir let me just say, you were born to run a channel like this. The whole video i lost track of time and totally forgot what i was even doing or thinking about. Great job sir, great job.
Thanks so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
This was wonderful as a horse woman myself and lover of medieval history. I've never seen such a comprehensive breakdown and the model was too much fun! Cheers from CA!
Thanks Carol! Glad you enjoyed it.
That was a fun history lesson. The getaway horse was new to me. Mike Loads had a documentary where he stated that the chargers had gait that was unpleasant for the rider over longer distances and that the charger was too valuable to be used as travel horse and risk injury.
Those extra chargers must have required extra armour too. It´s facinating to see the logistics behind having a horse on the battlefield.
Great to see visualised something one's been pondering on many times when reading history.
This was super interesting, thank you !
Very interesting. Being a horseman myself, I always wondered how they managed to get everything together to care, feed and get the horses to their destination. What a wonderful illustration! I always enjoy your history lessons! Brings history to life, so to speak!
I think of the logistics of loading and carrying horses on a campaign, particularly on ship and I feel like Scrooge talking to Marley: “I’d rather not.” I have some experience with horses and riding myself, nothing like a great big charger but something that a yeoman might have; I think the closest we could get to one is an Icelandic pony. Not only have the Icelandics never been bread with another breed they have a special gait that is halfway between with canter and trot and the amazing thing is that gait barely bounces the rider so you can ride for quite a while with out getting sore or tired and for the ponies it’s almost like putting them in autopilot.
Great input Jodie, thanks. The gait being similar perhaps to the Mongolian horses.
16:36 They might get dizzy but they wouldn't vomit. Horses are one of the few mammals that are unable to, which is why it's so important to keep poisons away from them btw.
Interesting history! I also enjoyed learning the origin of the word “constable”. My husband has a lot of family in Mississippi involved in horse work. His nephew is a farrier, and the nephew and others have kept horses and done endurance rides. An uncle managed an Arabian horse ranch for years. It is amazing they moved those horses with what little they had back then!
One of few channels I have notifications on. Enjoy this lad educating me. It is so interesting to listen when the speaker habe genuine passion for the subject.
Love your videos about all the medieval logistics. The scale is really amazing.
It is for sure 👍🏻
Fascinating! The logistics of these campaigns is always a surprise, remember reading that even the ordinary Mongol soldier had around 5 horses each, meaning an army could literally contain hundreds of thousands of horses!
Your curiosity is priceless Kevin, you fill in the blanks left by scriptwriters and fiction writers. In real life nothing just ‘appears’ ammunition alone is a massive undertaking. Well done this is real source material.👏🏻
Cheers Patrick 👍🏻
I love the way you get into the practicalities of these things.
WOW. That was extremely eye-opening, Mr. Hicks. We never learned any of this in school. Time for all of us to start a petition for you to receive the O.B.E.
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Kevin I’m in the opinion you could talk about grass growing for 20-30 minutes and make it riveting. I really believe that. Every video is just like wow 20 minutes has passed, but I feels likes in only been 2-3 minutes. Absolutely amazing. You have a very special gift for gab. As my mom says. Even with your explanation being so detailed for a short video it’s just a wealth of information on whatever subject your discussing/explaining. It almost always leaves me disappointed, and craving more. Well done brother. One of the best channels on TH-cam. I wish we had your videos back in the days of vinyl records, and tape cassettes. Sure would of helped with my history classes! You would of made a brilliant teacher, or college professor. This from an old army ranger! Lead the way brother!
Haha, thanks Paul!!
I was trained to shoot a pistol by the American Army, my instructor was a grisly, old Vietnam Vet - a Ranger 😜
I love horses. Very informative video! I remember Jason Kingsley over at ModernHistoryTV talking about the horses of a Medieval knight. Learned a lot from your video, too! 👍
Fascinating. I would never have expected the logistics behind horse and cavalry transportation to be so illuminating, bravo!
Another fascinating video Kev!! I never knew this about the horses. I did know that jousting was a practice for a war situation. So obviously blacksmiths & farriers would have been taken on campaign too! A huge amount of organisation for a campaign as you've touched on before. Keep the great videos coming mate!
Dave.
Will do, thanks mate 👍🏻
War horses in Medieval times also had a shorter back to keep the back from breaking in battle.
Yes, they've been described as being similar to the Hanoverian being short necked and short backed. 👍🏻
@@thehistorysquad Yes, that is what I have read, about them. I have seen horses that were bred to recreate them how close I don't know. All were, Roman Nose though they were somewhat head strong maybe they put some Bold Ruler in them,ha. I miss being able to ride horses. I don't have my horse she was a class of 93 track rescue, a great sweet gentle horse. I found the loading interesting, Sophie wouldn't have stood for it.
Mister kevin, your videos always cheer me up when im down and i dont know why but you always seem to capture my attention and interest. I thank you very much for everything you do.
How lovely, I'm happy to hear that!
I am an eventing rider. GREAT discussion of horse use & management in the medieval period! Thanks for the information! 😊
My pleasure Margo 👍🏻
I would love to hear more about the logistics of medieval campaigns. Great video!
The honey and wine on the horses was a very ingenious method. These people were smart. Thanks for the video!
As a horse owner and lover of history found this video absolutely fascinating. You are right don't think my would have thought about the logistics of taking horses to war. Thank you for sharing 👍
You sir, are criminally underrated, you deserve more attention!
Wow, thanks very much!!
Wish I had people like you as history teachers during my school time. I might have actually learned something.
Horses are such underrated and important animals in pre industrial society we should give them more credit. During Napoleons retreat from Russia and rebuilding of his grande armee the biggest issue he faced was reassembling new cavalry units. Soldiers can be trained in a few weeks and you will always find men willing to fight, horses however need to bred and trained far longer to be used as war animals on the battlefield.
Thanks! Your work and channel are so interesting and educating.
Keep up your great work. Already my favorite.
Hi Filipe, you're very kind, thanks for the SUPER, it's much appreciated. I'm glad you like the videos 👍🏻
I American from very early English and Irish Colonists. We have been farming here to this Day. My family raised Horses and Mules for Agriculture. I must say that none of this activity would have been possible without Mules and Oxen. They were important for hauling supplies. Just look at the reruns of Gunsmoke. Old Festus rode a Mule@!
Although I have absolutely no interest in horses ... you still manage to make me think ...
"give me more knowledge, I want ... no wait !! I NEED to know more about Horses on Campaign"👌
It's a real pleasure to see how must you enjoy telling stories and sharing your knowledge...
I get a bit of awe, when I think about how much work, research and planning goes into each and every one of your videos. .. for that I am truly grateful.🙏
many thanks for showing and please keep up the good work 👍
That's so nice of you, thank you. I also appreciate your joining our Patreon community and will write a note to later today.
Excellent storytelling about the Medieval stabling!
Awesome post Kevin! Thank you!
My pleasure!
It blows my.mind how these men... achieved all of these amazing feats.. and think about all the people who needed to be on these ships to take care of these animals.. people solely there just to shovel all the manure the horses produce. Just amazing
This is the only video I can find on TH-cam about medieval horses on ships.
Fascinating Kevin thank you once again. Superb!🏴🇬🇧
Hey there again Kevin, I am currently working towards a horse training and care diploma and planning on following it through at university. Anymore horsey stuff you could do would be hugely appreciated.
Keep up the fantastic work!!
Will do, & good luck!
I've always been curious about this subject, thanks for posting this!
You know...I've never seen a horse swim...wasn't sure they could....well why not! Crazy how complicated it all was...we never think of all this. Thanks! This is how we should learn history! Your awesome!
Thanks!
Absolutely astonishing stuff, marvelously organized, visualized & presented !! 👍
Many thanks!
Stuttgart Germany... Stuttgart (Stud Farm) the city that now boasts Mercedes started by breeding horses for the numerous commercial needs of medieval Europe. Great research Kevin, this was well thought out and very revealing.
Glad you enjoyed it. 👍🏻
@@thehistorysquad Yeah the logistics of war is so encompassing it bankrupted Europe to launch those crusades. But got to listen to the Pope!!! I can imagine the Kings and Nobles hissing as they hear news from Rome!!! Another Crusade!!! Oh Blimey!!!
This is a fascinating subject. Thanks for covering it!
Great memories of Warwick, and great fun learning so much from you Kevin.
Fascinating once again,....thank you Kevin.
My pleasure 👍🏻
Love this video! I've always wondered about the horses, but didn't know where to even start the research.
The bit about the honey and wine I didn't know, definitely interesting, and it makes sense. thanks for the video Kev
What a great documentary/lecture. Thank you sir!
It's like moving a small city each time they went to a campaign
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Very interesting subject, glad to have been recommended this video!
@6:55 You are so right. I had a bull that turned nasty on us. I carried a shock stick on the tractor in case I had to keep him ham at baye. It fell off somewhere in the high grass so I took the quarter horse out to find it. I found the shock stick (in the shape of a pipe 75cm long) and got off to retrieve it and the horse went to grazing as soon as I got off. I held the shock stick in my left hand and put my hand to the horn as I put my foot in the stirrup and went to mount the saddle when she picked her head up, she saw this strange pipe and in full quarter horse fashion took off before I was seated in the saddle. By the time I could bail she was going full speed and I hit the ground harder than any time before or since. I leaned, let the horse know what you have in your hand or on your person BEFORE MOUNTING!
Oh yes, I know this to my cost too! Thanks for sharing your story 👍🏻
This is fantastic information. Never heard it explained like this.
Astonishing and informative as always thankyou!!!
Another stunner of a post. Many thanks for that interesting & informative history lesson
Thanks Margaret 👍🏻
Fantastic video Kevin!