Definitely improved alot. And now considering the nerf of wanwan 2nd she will now be the only mm with cc immunity. I've been seeing her picked alot even in Mythical Glory. Recently my random team picked her against an estes I was like why but then I realized that enemy's has to stick close to each other and hanabi will be getting free hits.
@@HomoSapien.__.true, but it's still annoying when you get an Estes on your team acting like a bossy know it all the entire game lmao. Like I understand your frustration when the team doesn't adjust their play to take advantage of your skills, but my gosh, quit criticizing everyone in the comments the entire time and communicate what you want... withoutt being an ah.
@@angelbabyy5606 He wanted Beto to save him from Khufra’s gank when it was his fault he was out of position and looking at the map. And Beto was just level 4 he had no items to do any damage too 💀 players like that are just annoying
I really don’t get why Estes reacted like that even if he is right, Hanabi’s basic attacks won’t be enough to kill anyone that early, never mind that the enemies were mostly full HP 😂
Yea, I don't like people like that. You die because you're not watching the map then you tell me how to play, really dude? Ok 😂😂 But on the plus side I guess, atleast he wasn't toxic about it haha
Hanabi is someone you just don't leave alone. If you do she'll get her core items faster. And once she does that, she'll be tearing through your team with little to no effort. No I'm not traumatized by hanabi, you're crazy
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nah! I’m hanabi user her damage is not that good no matter what items you give to her. She fan barely kill fighters and mages, low damage,slow lifesteal. Moonton needs to bring back the old hanabi where she can do 1vs 3 enemies with her high damage and fast lifesteal. The newly released hanabi before was unkillable
Hanabi is a decent marksman. My arguement as to why I think so: 1. She has an anti cc passive, which is useful to not get a guaranteed death every time a stun such as Selena's arrow hits you, allowing for more survivability. 2. She has decent dmg & good teamfight potential. If the enemy lieks sticking together a lot, she can deal some dmg to all of them which is pretty nice. But what I liek about her is her ability to provide consistent dmg unlike markesmen who mostly rely on skills to deal dmg, which has a cooldown; so whenever I see an opportunity to set, I know they can follow up pretty fast. 3. Fast wave clear. She can clear minion wave pretty fast just liek Miya, Beatrix, Natan, & so on. Fast wave clear is important in a losing situation where the enemies are sending the lord and 3 whole waves of super minions at ur base. 4. I'm good at Hanabi despite being a tank main. :3 She one of the few marksmen I know how to play very well along with Beatrix & Clint. Miya and Layla even tho they're the beginner mms, I never rlly used lol. I just set and support with whatever hero I use haha. Im so good at baiting the enemies into their demise but somehow I die most of time when doing so. Maybe it's bc Im trying to tank with a mage...
Well im just like you, i can play three roles quite well which are tank roam, support roam, and jungle xD The only tips to do this is knowing what ur objectives are, and you will surely do decent
Hanabi is really good if you have good fundamentals and map awareness. Knowing where to position in the teamfight and knowing when to charge and stop makes her insane. She's possibly the best mm in teamfights. EDIT: I've unintentionally started a war of words.
Her bounce means she MUST be frozen. You can't poke her because she outrange anyone in early, even Popol (especially Popol) and she has Aegis to turn the tables. You have to dive her and her Aegis so she can't farm. If she's not alone them just forget laning against her. 2v2 is always her win because 1v1 maybe some MM like Bea or Clint can dive/bush jump and finish her, but with a roam? No more diving or bush jumping, no more denying her. Her WR is just so low because this innate brokenness attract many morons
@geraldmirakel2355 that's why I said to dive her. She can tickle you indefinitely and there's nothing you can do to stop that short of killing her. And let's face it, how many MM can come out of the gate and finish other MM without them running away? Maybe Brody or Roger or Granger after they get their ult, but other than them, it's free food for Hanabi
@geraldmirakel2355 Yes, but if she gets damaged, she can use her skill 1 to push you back and raise her hp back up as well. Meanwhile the enemys hp is low and has to retreat to base, giving her time to take out the turret before they're back(ideally). A big advantage she has, is so many people underestimate her. As long as you don't get targeted too badly on a shit team, you can easily get mvp with hanabi. (Yes, I've been targeted with her before. Not fun 😂)
As a hanabi main I recommend using Bruno and building that legs armour for defense and once you get your first core item you can melt hanabi with or without support. Or use Brody get your first core item and hanabi needs till late game to catch up to your damage and his stun is so quick you can't put your shield up quick enough to block the stun
Or use miya but farm till late game then use ult to sneak up and melt her I hate miyas the most cuz you can't counter and even with wind chant shield spell and her own shield I somehow still can't tough it out
Es uno de los tiradores mas debiles en juego temprano... solo debes evitar estar cerca de la oleada de minions, acercate por el costado y golpea. Hanabi solo funciona si te dejes golpear constantemente como un muñeco... su intercambio 1 vs 1 es de los peores que hay.
no way, hanabi always stops malee heroes, her ricochet hits you and you ge5 slows for the team fight, and the cc immunity first skill lets you trade carefully earlygame without loosing much actual health
hanabi is honestly rlly fun to play. you just need to be a lil more aware of the map since she has no dash skill to escape but when the entire enemy team groups together...they're so dead. i usually do the trinity build plus haas claws and a defensive item if needed which p much shreds the enemy team. unfortunately i don't really get the opportunity to use her in ranked as i play in a trio or five man and no one else can jg except me
Hanabi is definitely strong in certain comps. She can be a menace in teamfights and you won't even know what's melting you from far. She doesn't need to get close to you, she can melt you from far with full items thanks to her bounce just by attack ur allies ur minions lol
Crit build is good on her for the heal since Haa's claw is now a crit item, it gives you old Hanabi feeling from the way she heals but I believe she can't crit with her bounce anymore after the revamp. The Trinity is so much better now it can slow & melt down the enemy.
Her bounce can still crit, its just that the damage with each bounce is so slow that its not worth the crit damage She's better off with DHS and Corrosion for decent attack effects and so that her bounces would deal consistent damage
All the meta MM have escape / dash skill which Hanabi dont have. She got shield but that can easily be broken. Also, Hanabi was really item dependent so she need a lot of time which rarely happen in Mythic Glory above since game usually end below 15 minutes.
@@josef-1209 she needs to since despite her cc immunity assassins that can dive backline (ling, haya, harley, helcurt, lance etc) can burst through her shield. She's easy food for them
She is strong and popular in legend and below because spamming basic attack is peak of skill of players in these ranks. Edit: You performed really well in this match, but very common experience is Hanabi feed Lesley even tho she has advantage and then can't do anything, as Hanabi's dmg is too low while Lesley erases her in 2 shots.
She's not build as 1vs1 character, she a team hero, where's Lesley kinda only aim 1 hero at time she can melt all enemy hero if they stick to close, and tank are there to help control Lesley.
What? really that what happened😮 I feel sorry for your poor experience but she is very underestimated lasly can't kill her at 2 shots 😂 It is true that she is team hero but if ya master her she could do 1 v 2 or 3 for her amazing bounce attacks🎉
tbh i feel like most people like the trinity build more because it gives a lot more sustain during teamfights and it also stacks up her shield from her S1. Also late game you can even replace boots for a second wind talker since with 2 windtalkers + brute force breastplate she gets enough movement speed that boots are not required. I have mained her as my main mm even before her revamp and she just gets better and better. Also if you get the emblem that slows the enemy down + corrosive schyte you can clear the wawe more or less for free because if the enemy doesn't have a dash they will be to slowed down to do anything
I hate going up against hanabi but its not because she's strong, its because her mechanics are unique among all mm. Her basic attack ricochet can hit you even if you are in bush and hidden which doesn't reveal you but still does dmg and a smart hanabi will know you are in the bush. I have to take an early strong mm like brody or beatrix to go against hanabi or melissa who has a higher burst than hanabi lesley is not a good option due to hanabi's sustain.
Her early game's dmg is weak but effective since her basic attack can bounce even the enemies hide in the bush. It was fun using her to late game that depends on the situation Crit Hanabi is good but the ricochet dmg is very low. But at the same time you have a very big life steal
Whenever i pick her my team starts to trash talk, even our mage and roam don't want to help even a little, but when i got triple kill from defending the base they go silence for quite a while🤡🙊
Well, it depends on how you use her. Hanabi is considered wek because the most meta marksman need 1 or 2 items to start deleting enemies while Hanabi needs like 4. That's why. It just depends a lot on how good you are using her
the only thing i hate about hanabi is that when you're trying to attack the turret but her attack bound to the near enemy and thus make the turret attack you.
@@acturesmakarov1873it actually works, I've done it so many times and if minions are nearby, the basic attacks will bounce onto the turret to the enemy. Thus preventing the enemy to recall and not be safe in the turret - so he actually goes far to recall since low HP and i get a chance to destroy the turret meanwhile.
Hanabi is definitely at least A tier. She's like Claude, her job is to chip away enemy's HP so that you're team can finish them off. While she lacks mobility like Claude she have more AOE power and is an absolute threat in teamfights. If she had a dash skills she'll probably never come out of the ban section unless moonton literally makes her do 0 damage. Imo the weakest rn is Wanwan and popol kupa
@@mysticflourcookie09 She doesn't need to. Her job is never to 1v1. Her job is to lower the enemy HP, punish enemies for being close and/or apply debuffs like anti heal and slow. Killing is not everything, utility is a key factor too. That's why Novaria is considered strong because of her insane utility. You call me an epic player while I reached mythic multiple times and I'm considered one of the best marksman players around. Don't go judging people just because you think so is fit. Ask any mythic player how strong she is, they will at least say she is decent
So true all marksman can really outplay her even Layla, she always picked in mythic rank if that's the case they lose, like Hanabi is somewhat have short range and super weak in early and mid game, and still weak in late
ML Guides made a meta tierlist with other Mythical Immortal players and Hanabi is one the A tier. She's way better thanks to her skills being able to bounce from enemy to enemy and a better CC immunity. She's also perfect for melting down a tanky lineup
I don't know why but Estes low-key trying to blame Hanabi for his own blunder and even telling her to move forward and go aggro was so funny. What a stupid advice.
Most people use hanabi aggressively because of her passive without map awareness. That’s why Estes probably wanted him to charge forward forgetting she’s squishy. 😂 Hanabi needs good front line to shine
I think its because of the build, many players go for the on hit build, but the crit build is actually a lot better. Also players still go wind chant as a defensive item when rose gold meteor is absolutely broken on her.
I see, Betosky is also a man of culture. I too wanna see those big juicy bounce... of her basic attack. Especially those huge and heavy... damage she gives of in a teamfight. She is also very thicc,.. those thick shields she got when her first skill is activated.
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The real thing that makes Hanabi good is her basic attacks are loud asf, for someone that's going against Inspire Hanabi I feel bad for their speakers 💀
@@hentaihut4043not a prio pick yeah but not an int pick, she's very good in an engage or sustain comp. Only int pick you can go with is Layla,Zilong and Argus
Funny how u dont say anything about beatrix when shes easy and also the best one to use u players cant accept the fact that shes n1 mm and she is definitely best prio pick
@@KhaoszUh she may be good but not the best. She's not beginner friendly too. Her machine gun is the only attack that u can use without skills(and its range sucks), her sniper(which is her strongest dmg dealing attack) takes skill, u need to aim and predict not just click.
It depends on your team comp, if u have good bby sitter roam then she is good, have played her many times it's all about your team she is definitely good for team fights if u have healer roam
As a hanabi main, I've been insulted saying that mm can't be watched all the time. In fact, if the roamer (tank/support) specifically hates you for no reason and prefer to help jungle and mage... Then you gotta do it on your own. That's why I always play safe waiting for the right moments to use my ult. And now I'm learning more about my enemies skills so I can have a good strategy when I'm against them.
I'm Hanabi mains tho and She is Kinda weak on 1v1 bc she need something To make her bounce active so she only effective on Teamfights and I was on Mythic only using her Also players underestimating her Bounce which can reveal camouflaging heroes and any enemies on bush
Depending my team pick and what enemy i face..in solo rank i don't hope much for my team to cover me if i play her..so..in early game i would just buy haa claw to get decent dmg and heal to farm first if my roamer are not in the same line with me all the time,since there always either no map awareness for the roamer or the roamer plan to rotate help get turtle or help other lane..if i'm doing 1vs2 i get haa claw for early game or when i'm facing aggressive MM type...first reason is because so that i don't need constantly go back my base to heal and let enemy mm to have advantage and gain more gold from turret..second is that if i want to heal i can just hit the creep/jungle monster to heal myself more quickly... After i get my core item then i sold my haa claw after getting all item i need.. Her best spell would be the shield spell because thanks to her passive if u get shield from turtle or shield from spell/heroes(like lolita passive) even if u didn't used her 1st skill to Immune CC,you would still immune to cc if as long as u have shield on urself...people didn't know this and alway relying on her 1st skill to immune to cc, that's why most player who pick hamabi didn't fully know how she work.. And lastly,i only pick her if enemy heavy have alots of CC heroes,for tanky hero lesley will do the work...i prefer using lesley instead of karrie.
reasons why Hanabi is not the weak: 1st. Good sustainability. She is basically immune to CC with her first skill and has an extra shield. Pair this with Haas Claw, You will basically be lifestealing the opponents nonstop. 2nd. Good Utility, She has CC, and her basic attacks can bounce and reveal opponents near minions that are hiding in bushes in the early game. This can also be very helpful in clearing minion waves at certain situations like when you are defending your base or pushing. Hanabi is also pretty hard to catch for some heroes because she can be faster than most heroes using her 1st skill. 3rd. Deals Decent damage. Even tho she is not as strong as the other Marksmans, she can still deal pretty decent damage to opponents. She shines the most when in teamfights as her third skill can CC the opponents when they are together and all her basic attacks will bounce to the opponents reducing their hp giving Hanabi and your team a better chance to wipe out the opponents. Also, When an opponent is in low hp with the tank, you can just keep attacking the tank so that her attacks bounces to the low hp opponent killing them.
Not really at the time of original server release, when revamp came hanabi winrate plummet to 38% mythic 400+ cuz the revamp was really bad until they buff her again and again just to make her decent. She still sits at 48% in MG stats so not really that high
@@assassinraider442Blame the players...Hanabi's kit is really good rn, it's just that the Hanabi users tends to be greedy and no map awareness (Not everyone though)
@@MiIkywayCookie nah bruh the data was from mythic 400+ and she even got less than 1% pickrate while having 38% wr which means the only players who are using her where her mains And stayed like that for almost a month until they buffed her again and again even now her wr and tourna presence is still subpar and a lot of pro players still think she is not worth to use
Top global hanabi player here. Hanabi is a good and strong mm whose good for team fights and its always good to make sure ur skills bounce for most dmg and make sure to use ur first skill bc it increases ur attk spd and movemt spd and will help ur dps out more.
From my experience the crit build is better when the enemy team doesn't have a good Frontline, the trinity build is better against tanky enemies, in teamfights and for chasing
Me as Indian top 10 supreme hanabi, I use to play with many immortals opponents, but the higher the rank the more careful she needs in early to mid game
Hanabi is a good pick now in rank unlike back then i hate players that pick her back then. But the revamp and emblem changes makes her one of the best laning mm in the game
the trinity is better imo, more att speed = more bounces (and more slow from corrosion scythe), demon hunter sword shreds more hp heroes faster like fighters, tanks and the lord, and even with crit builds, she stills loses 1v1 anw ( given similar gold). All in all, Hanabi isn't a marksman with high dmg output, but she has the tools best suited for teamfights, she's immune to cc, has cc and can sustain pretty well
Hanabi is one of the strongest mms in my opinion, if you position yourself very well and you are aware of your surrondings, you can dominate the game with hanabi
Idk if you watch NA tournaments but Powerless likes to pull a surprise hanabi against his opponents, haha. He goes feather of heaven and glowing wand which surprisingly hurts like hell?? It also burns through wind chant. I’ll really like to see you try it!
Not that Estes complaining at the start when it was his fault he died 😭 like you still had no farm you wouldn’t be able to save him
For real though smooth brain antics right there
Definitely improved alot. And now considering the nerf of wanwan 2nd she will now be the only mm with cc immunity. I've been seeing her picked alot even in Mythical Glory. Recently my random team picked her against an estes I was like why but then I realized that enemy's has to stick close to each other and hanabi will be getting free hits.
well there's Roger and YSS 🤔🤔
@@ralfian0234they arent considered a fullpledged mm because they change weapons
@@Sychyxohh then what is Beatrix
Miya has cc immunity skill
@@sprinter5901 wym? all of her weapons are firearms
that bounce line in the beginning caught me off guard 😂
It’s not as bouncy as before 😂
@KingZaphkielshut the hell up
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It's funny how Estes is telling beto how to play whereas kairi who is considered as one of the best jg learned from beto
Many players doesn’t watch TH-camrs play and even if they did , they may not know he is Beto
he's the type of player to blame his teammates when he dies. just the worst.
@@bini_bwct nah just look at Estes coordination he responds to every massage and was rotating pretty good
@@HomoSapien.__.true, but it's still annoying when you get an Estes on your team acting like a bossy know it all the entire game lmao. Like I understand your frustration when the team doesn't adjust their play to take advantage of your skills, but my gosh, quit criticizing everyone in the comments the entire time and communicate what you want... withoutt being an ah.
@@angelbabyy5606 He wanted Beto to save him from Khufra’s gank when it was his fault he was out of position and looking at the map. And Beto was just level 4 he had no items to do any damage too 💀 players like that are just annoying
I really don’t get why Estes reacted like that even if he is right, Hanabi’s basic attacks won’t be enough to kill anyone that early, never mind that the enemies were mostly full HP 😂
Yea, I don't like people like that. You die because you're not watching the map then you tell me how to play, really dude? Ok 😂😂
But on the plus side I guess, atleast he wasn't toxic about it haha
Hanabi is someone you just don't leave alone. If you do she'll get her core items faster. And once she does that, she'll be tearing through your team with little to no effort.
No I'm not traumatized by hanabi, you're crazy
Kkk are u sure about that? 🤣
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That’s like every mm
@@jaydenchua6668Hanabae is sorta different, if u stand near ur tank, she just basic attack him, a decent chunk of HP gets deleted.
nah! I’m hanabi user her damage is not that good no matter what items you give to her. She fan barely kill fighters and mages, low damage,slow lifesteal. Moonton needs to bring back the old hanabi where she can do 1vs 3 enemies with her high damage and fast lifesteal. The newly released hanabi before was unkillable
Hanabi is a decent marksman. My arguement as to why I think so:
1. She has an anti cc passive, which is useful to not get a guaranteed death every time a stun such as Selena's arrow hits you, allowing for more survivability.
2. She has decent dmg & good teamfight potential. If the enemy lieks sticking together a lot, she can deal some dmg to all of them which is pretty nice. But what I liek about her is her ability to provide consistent dmg unlike markesmen who mostly rely on skills to deal dmg, which has a cooldown; so whenever I see an opportunity to set, I know they can follow up pretty fast.
3. Fast wave clear. She can clear minion wave pretty fast just liek Miya, Beatrix, Natan, & so on. Fast wave clear is important in a losing situation where the enemies are sending the lord and 3 whole waves of super minions at ur base.
4. I'm good at Hanabi despite being a tank main. :3
She one of the few marksmen I know how to play very well along with Beatrix & Clint. Miya and Layla even tho they're the beginner mms, I never rlly used lol. I just set and support with whatever hero I use haha. Im so good at baiting the enemies into their demise but somehow I die most of time when doing so. Maybe it's bc Im trying to tank with a mage...
This is a long ass comment Xd
@@kalleousvoncheezbut I love it! XD
@@ekonthungcyrusngullie4391 awh, tysm
Well im just like you, i can play three roles quite well which are tank roam, support roam, and jungle xD The only tips to do this is knowing what ur objectives are, and you will surely do decent
Don't forget her basic attacks are loud asf
Hanabi is really good if you have good fundamentals and map awareness. Knowing where to position in the teamfight and knowing when to charge and stop makes her insane. She's possibly the best mm in teamfights.
EDIT: I've unintentionally started a war of words.
She ain’t the best mm in team fights it’s not even close lmao
@@redrumx8214which one is it then ?
@@redrumx8214she's the best because she can deal damage to all the enemies if they're together
@@redrumx8214she is for now. She can affect all 5 heroes. Alpha and she can carry 2v5
@@anizmlbbyeah 2v5 in epic tier or weak server haha
As a Hanabi main seeing Betosky appreciating her is just heartwarming❤️❤️
Betosky is such an experienced player. The way he explains every important thing, I learn a lot from him by watching his videos.
Her bounce means she MUST be frozen. You can't poke her because she outrange anyone in early, even Popol (especially Popol) and she has Aegis to turn the tables. You have to dive her and her Aegis so she can't farm. If she's not alone them just forget laning against her. 2v2 is always her win because 1v1 maybe some MM like Bea or Clint can dive/bush jump and finish her, but with a roam? No more diving or bush jumping, no more denying her.
Her WR is just so low because this innate brokenness attract many morons
@KingZaphkiel :v
The last part of this is way too correct
very well said
@geraldmirakel2355 that's why I said to dive her. She can tickle you indefinitely and there's nothing you can do to stop that short of killing her. And let's face it, how many MM can come out of the gate and finish other MM without them running away? Maybe Brody or Roger or Granger after they get their ult, but other than them, it's free food for Hanabi
@geraldmirakel2355 Yes, but if she gets damaged, she can use her skill 1 to push you back and raise her hp back up as well. Meanwhile the enemys hp is low and has to retreat to base, giving her time to take out the turret before they're back(ideally). A big advantage she has, is so many people underestimate her. As long as you don't get targeted too badly on a shit team, you can easily get mvp with hanabi. (Yes, I've been targeted with her before. Not fun 😂)
I hate going against Hanafeed, her early game is so goddamn annoying with those bounces.
HANAFEED?! 😭
what bounces? 🍆
Hanabi ❌
Hanafeed ✅
😭😭😭
what kind of bounce 🤨
I'm so sick of this marksman man, I've faced about 20 hanabis in my ranked games and it's just so irritating to lane against her 😭
As a hanabi main I recommend using Bruno and building that legs armour for defense and once you get your first core item you can melt hanabi with or without support. Or use Brody get your first core item and hanabi needs till late game to catch up to your damage and his stun is so quick you can't put your shield up quick enough to block the stun
Or use miya but farm till late game then use ult to sneak up and melt her I hate miyas the most cuz you can't counter and even with wind chant shield spell and her own shield I somehow still can't tough it out
Es uno de los tiradores mas debiles en juego temprano... solo debes evitar estar cerca de la oleada de minions, acercate por el costado y golpea. Hanabi solo funciona si te dejes golpear constantemente como un muñeco... su intercambio 1 vs 1 es de los peores que hay.
@@Sauceyourgrannythanks, I've found Brody to be pretty effective against hanabi, and am saving up to purchase that hero
no way, hanabi always stops malee heroes, her ricochet hits you and you ge5 slows for the team fight, and the cc immunity first skill lets you trade carefully earlygame without loosing much actual health
You're really in epic rank hahhahah, as I in the mythical honor rank they auto lose if they pick her
hanabi is honestly rlly fun to play. you just need to be a lil more aware of the map since she has no dash skill to escape but when the entire enemy team groups together...they're so dead. i usually do the trinity build plus haas claws and a defensive item if needed which p much shreds the enemy team. unfortunately i don't really get the opportunity to use her in ranked as i play in a trio or five man and no one else can jg except me
Hanabi is definitely strong in certain comps. She can be a menace in teamfights and you won't even know what's melting you from far. She doesn't need to get close to you, she can melt you from far with full items thanks to her bounce just by attack ur allies ur minions lol
Are you in the epic rank? Hanabi is a bonus round if picked in mythic rank, I'm mythic honor and if someone pick Hanabi they auto lose
especially if u have a carmilla on ur team
Yup, seeing it bounce and hearing the sound effects of it hitting everything is very satisfying... I'm talking about the basic attack, of course
Crit build is good on her for the heal since Haa's claw is now a crit item, it gives you old Hanabi feeling from the way she heals but I believe she can't crit with her bounce anymore after the revamp. The Trinity is so much better now it can slow & melt down the enemy.
Her bounce can still crit, its just that the damage with each bounce is so slow that its not worth the crit damage
She's better off with DHS and Corrosion for decent attack effects and so that her bounces would deal consistent damage
All the meta MM have escape / dash skill which Hanabi dont have. She got shield but that can easily be broken. Also, Hanabi was really item dependent so she need a lot of time which rarely happen in Mythic Glory above since game usually end below 15 minutes.
Depends on enemy line up. If heavy cc enemies she's good against them but if burst? She's food
She is really really dependent on RGM.
😒 she has really good skill kit and she doesn't need items that much if u land skill 2 and ult properly
She don't need those cuz she deals MASSIVE damage
@@josef-1209 she needs to since despite her cc immunity assassins that can dive backline (ling, haya, harley, helcurt, lance etc) can burst through her shield. She's easy food for them
She is strong and popular in legend and below because spamming basic attack is peak of skill of players in these ranks.
Edit: You performed really well in this match, but very common experience is Hanabi feed Lesley even tho she has advantage and then can't do anything, as Hanabi's dmg is too low while Lesley erases her in 2 shots.
She's not build as 1vs1 character, she a team hero, where's Lesley kinda only aim 1 hero at time she can melt all enemy hero if they stick to close, and tank are there to help control Lesley.
What? really that what happened😮 I feel sorry for your poor experience but she is very underestimated lasly can't kill her at 2 shots 😂 It is true that she is team hero but if ya master her she could do 1 v 2 or 3 for her amazing bounce attacks🎉
Hanabi bouncy shuriken, but noone talk about Natan swinging his balls back and forth
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tbh i feel like most people like the trinity build more because it gives a lot more sustain during teamfights and it also stacks up her shield from her S1. Also late game you can even replace boots for a second wind talker since with 2 windtalkers + brute force breastplate she gets enough movement speed that boots are not required. I have mained her as my main mm even before her revamp and she just gets better and better. Also if you get the emblem that slows the enemy down + corrosive schyte you can clear the wawe more or less for free because if the enemy doesn't have a dash they will be to slowed down to do anything
Good positioning, map awareness, knowing when to use her ulti and 2nd skill~ she's a good mm❤
I hate going up against hanabi but its not because she's strong, its because her mechanics are unique among all mm.
Her basic attack ricochet can hit you even if you are in bush and hidden which doesn't reveal you but still does dmg and a smart hanabi will know you are in the bush.
I have to take an early strong mm like brody or beatrix to go against hanabi or melissa who has a higher burst than hanabi lesley is not a good option due to hanabi's sustain.
Not the Estes wanting you to die with him at the start😂😂
Her early game's dmg is weak but effective since her basic attack can bounce even the enemies hide in the bush. It was fun using her to late game that depends on the situation
Crit Hanabi is good but the ricochet dmg is very low. But at the same time you have a very big life steal
8:55 bro this is straight out of Naruto! How did he even know that helcurt behind him. WHAT?!!
Whenever i pick her my team starts to trash talk, even our mage and roam don't want to help even a little, but when i got triple kill from defending the base they go silence for quite a while🤡🙊
Well, it depends on how you use her. Hanabi is considered wek because the most meta marksman need 1 or 2 items to start deleting enemies while Hanabi needs like 4. That's why. It just depends a lot on how good you are using her
What was that Estes yapping about in the start 😂😂
The bounce is really good 😉
2:41 imagine no map awareness and putting the blame on your other team
Hanabi is fo sure top tier mm now immunity and slow is what makes her very good now ive seen a lot of hanabi pick and i really love using her
the only thing i hate about hanabi is that when you're trying to attack the turret but her attack bound to the near enemy and thus make the turret attack you.
I dont think she do it anymore after a revamp
@@acturesmakarov1873it actually works, I've done it so many times and if minions are nearby, the basic attacks will bounce onto the turret to the enemy. Thus preventing the enemy to recall and not be safe in the turret - so he actually goes far to recall since low HP and i get a chance to destroy the turret meanwhile.
Hanabi is quite strong right now if shes played properly
As someone who used to be a Hanabi main, all I can say is: yes
Hanabi is definitely at least A tier. She's like Claude, her job is to chip away enemy's HP so that you're team can finish them off. While she lacks mobility like Claude she have more AOE power and is an absolute threat in teamfights. If she had a dash skills she'll probably never come out of the ban section unless moonton literally makes her do 0 damage. Imo the weakest rn is Wanwan and popol kupa
You're definitely joking rn, maybe you're epic, hanabi can't withstand all marksman even Layla
@@mysticflourcookie09 She doesn't need to. Her job is never to 1v1. Her job is to lower the enemy HP, punish enemies for being close and/or apply debuffs like anti heal and slow. Killing is not everything, utility is a key factor too. That's why Novaria is considered strong because of her insane utility. You call me an epic player while I reached mythic multiple times and I'm considered one of the best marksman players around. Don't go judging people just because you think so is fit. Ask any mythic player how strong she is, they will at least say she is decent
As a hanabi main i approve
And yes I liked my nown commen5
Hanabi is good at securing kills from behind. You be trying to run away from gank and she’ll just finish you with her passive.
seeing estes chatting that hanabi is like the one who killed him but it’s actually his fault for not thinking the best as a roamer :)
Thank you so much Betosky for sharing this Hanabi gameplay 😍
Reached mythical honor only using Hanabae and I can say that she is one of the best marksman in teamfights. If her ult hits 3 or more enemies if GGs.
Day 84 of requesting Betosky to play Roger in next video.
no
Dude stop get some help
Roger sucks 😂
Roger sux
Just stop
Hanabi needs more attention after revamp its one of the strongest and unpopular mm
So true all marksman can really outplay her even Layla, she always picked in mythic rank if that's the case they lose, like Hanabi is somewhat have short range and super weak in early and mid game, and still weak in late
ML Guides made a meta tierlist with other Mythical Immortal players and Hanabi is one the A tier. She's way better thanks to her skills being able to bounce from enemy to enemy and a better CC immunity. She's also perfect for melting down a tanky lineup
"I mean the bounce on her basic attack"
Uh-huh... sure thing bud, sure thing
I’ve seen her in NACT 😂 she was an absolute monster!
Yea Ugga Bugga always spammed Hanabi in NACT last season😂😂
No hero is actually weak or strong it's how the user uses him/her
I don't know why but Estes low-key trying to blame Hanabi for his own blunder and even telling her to move forward and go aggro was so funny. What a stupid advice.
Most people use hanabi aggressively because of her passive without map awareness. That’s why Estes probably wanted him to charge forward forgetting she’s squishy. 😂 Hanabi needs good front line to shine
@@kasper2951 Really true. People forget she isn't a really ninja and don't have any dash.
With Rose Gold Meteor and Aegis, her CC immunity is limitless. >
I really enjoyed when beto play Hanabi with crit build... thanks for sharing the gameplay
I think its because of the build, many players go for the on hit build, but the crit build is actually a lot better.
Also players still go wind chant as a defensive item when rose gold meteor is absolutely broken on her.
POV : Hanabi in the enemy team.
But when she is on my team, she feed.
"I also like those bouncy..
Blades"
-man of culture
thats alot of bounce from hanabi she have a huge bounce skills
I’d argue that Hanabi is one of the top MM right now. People underestimate just how important movement speed and CC immunity are in this meta game.
1:12 Me who prefers freezing lanes in those situations then the mage or support decides to clear them. 😅
I see, Betosky is also a man of culture. I too wanna see those big juicy bounce... of her basic attack. Especially those huge and heavy... damage she gives of in a teamfight. She is also very thicc,.. those thick shields she got when her first skill is activated.
Day 33 of asking Beto to make a series of consecutive 5 games with results of any (Win/Loss) with a condition of playing in every role (Mm,Tank,Exp,Jungler,Mage)🧡
Those who say she's bad are probably the type of players that like challenging a 1v1 matchups.
It's not the hero that's weak, it's the player
I was literally telling myself, "who told betosky?" When I read your thumbnail. HahhA
Cause she can melt enemies while standing hahaha. 7:07
That Byakugan ! It was the best OSA I've ever seen
Lol that Estes just made himself a joke!
The real thing that makes Hanabi good is her basic attacks are loud asf, for someone that's going against Inspire Hanabi I feel bad for their speakers 💀
Lol that Estes trying to educate Betosky.
First And Please play Cecillion next❤
That BYAKUGAN was epic 🙌
Bruh whenever i see enemy picking hanabi
Le me:Its time for my belerick + vengeance skill to shine
I often build the crossbow first item since it's passive of added 40 adaptive damage was quite good in the early trade
Hanabi is definitely popular in Legend rank down LOL
It's the easy poking passive and CC immunity.
She's definitely not only popular in Legend and below but also in Mythic.
She's one of the prio mm pick along with Bruno, Lesley, Brody, and Clint.
she is not a prio pick she is a literal int pick
@@hentaihut4043not a prio pick yeah but not an int pick, she's very good in an engage or sustain comp. Only int pick you can go with is Layla,Zilong and Argus
Funny how u dont say anything about beatrix when shes easy and also the best one to use u players cant accept the fact that shes n1 mm and she is definitely best prio pick
@@KhaoszUh she may be good but not the best. She's not beginner friendly too. Her machine gun is the only attack that u can use without skills(and its range sucks), her sniper(which is her strongest dmg dealing attack) takes skill, u need to aim and predict not just click.
As a Hanabi main, i say that her 2nd skill plus basic attack is broken at clearing waves😆
It depends on your team comp, if u have good bby sitter roam then she is good, have played her many times it's all about your team she is definitely good for team fights if u have healer roam
As a hanabi main, I've been insulted saying that mm can't be watched all the time. In fact, if the roamer (tank/support) specifically hates you for no reason and prefer to help jungle and mage... Then you gotta do it on your own. That's why I always play safe waiting for the right moments to use my ult. And now I'm learning more about my enemies skills so I can have a good strategy when I'm against them.
Yea yea, that bounce on her "basic attack" is pretty nice 🥴😜
That Estes got on my nerves with his comments at the beginning 😂
I'm Hanabi mains tho and She is Kinda weak on 1v1 bc she need something To make her bounce active so she only effective on Teamfights and I was on Mythic only using her
Also players underestimating her Bounce which can reveal camouflaging heroes and any enemies on bush
Depending my team pick and what enemy i face..in solo rank i don't hope much for my team to cover me if i play her..so..in early game i would just buy haa claw to get decent dmg and heal to farm first if my roamer are not in the same line with me all the time,since there always either no map awareness for the roamer or the roamer plan to rotate help get turtle or help other lane..if i'm doing 1vs2 i get haa claw for early game or when i'm facing aggressive MM type...first reason is because so that i don't need constantly go back my base to heal and let enemy mm to have advantage and gain more gold from turret..second is that if i want to heal i can just hit the creep/jungle monster to heal myself more quickly...
After i get my core item then i sold my haa claw after getting all item i need..
Her best spell would be the shield spell because thanks to her passive if u get shield from turtle or shield from spell/heroes(like lolita passive) even if u didn't used her 1st skill to Immune CC,you would still immune to cc if as long as u have shield on urself...people didn't know this and alway relying on her 1st skill to immune to cc, that's why most player who pick hamabi didn't fully know how she work..
And lastly,i only pick her if enemy heavy have alots of CC heroes,for tanky hero lesley will do the work...i prefer using lesley instead of karrie.
Geez. My guy is playing my Main Hero. :3
Mobility wise, yep. But damage wise? Probably not the strongest, but still gets the job done when you position perfectly.
3:41 I learned from MTB, crit build is for squishy enemy team; trinity build is for tanky enemy team.
reasons why Hanabi is not the weak:
1st. Good sustainability. She is basically immune to CC with her first skill and has an extra shield. Pair this with Haas Claw, You will basically be lifestealing the opponents nonstop.
2nd. Good Utility, She has CC, and her basic attacks can bounce and reveal opponents near minions that are hiding in bushes in the early game. This can also be very helpful in clearing minion waves at certain situations like when you are defending your base or pushing. Hanabi is also pretty hard to catch for some heroes because she can be faster than most heroes using her 1st skill.
3rd. Deals Decent damage. Even tho she is not as strong as the other Marksmans, she can still deal pretty decent damage to opponents. She shines the most when in teamfights as her third skill can CC the opponents when they are together and all her basic attacks will bounce to the opponents reducing their hp giving Hanabi and your team a better chance to wipe out the opponents. Also, When an opponent is in low hp with the tank, you can just keep attacking the tank so that her attacks bounces to the low hp opponent killing them.
Betosky being sus is pne of the most unexpected things☠️.
0:24 that line caught me off guard lmao 💀🤣
My fanny like when enemies pick hanabi, she's the perfect treat
she used to be the weakest but not anymore. imo, hanabi's revamp is the most impactful revamp so far.
Not really at the time of original server release, when revamp came hanabi winrate plummet to 38% mythic 400+ cuz the revamp was really bad until they buff her again and again just to make her decent.
She still sits at 48% in MG stats so not really that high
@@assassinraider442Blame the players...Hanabi's kit is really good rn, it's just that the Hanabi users tends to be greedy and no map awareness (Not everyone though)
@@MiIkywayCookie nah bruh the data was from mythic 400+ and she even got less than 1% pickrate while having 38% wr which means the only players who are using her where her mains
And stayed like that for almost a month until they buffed her again and again even now her wr and tourna presence is still subpar and a lot of pro players still think she is not worth to use
Top global hanabi player here. Hanabi is a good and strong mm whose good for team fights and its always good to make sure ur skills bounce for most dmg and make sure to use ur first skill bc it increases ur attk spd and movemt spd and will help ur dps out more.
2:34 lmao, that Estes barking..😆
I once played again hanabi plus angela combo , she just doesn't die.
From my experience the crit build is better when the enemy team doesn't have a good Frontline, the trinity build is better against tanky enemies, in teamfights and for chasing
Me as Indian top 10 supreme hanabi, I use to play with many immortals opponents, but the higher the rank the more careful she needs in early to mid game
This thumbnail looks much better beto.
Use these from now on, anime style heroes 🤩
so no is going to talk about how the estes was literally bossing around THE betosky
Hanabi is a good pick now in rank unlike back then i hate players that pick her back then. But the revamp and emblem changes makes her one of the best laning mm in the game
The most irritating part of mlbb is when players make bad decisions , die then automatically try to blame someone for it.
4:26 ok that was smart of khufra
the trinity is better imo, more att speed = more bounces (and more slow from corrosion scythe), demon hunter sword shreds more hp heroes faster like fighters, tanks and the lord, and even with crit builds, she stills loses 1v1 anw ( given similar gold). All in all, Hanabi isn't a marksman with high dmg output, but she has the tools best suited for teamfights, she's immune to cc, has cc and can sustain pretty well
Hanabi is one of the strongest mms in my opinion, if you position yourself very well and you are aware of your surrondings, you can dominate the game with hanabi
just like every other mm out there
@@marsernag_8jsjansiaoaoqHanabi is special since she has her Bouncing Basic attack/skills and her never ending cc immune
can't believe you said that: I like to seem em bounce hahaha
Idk if you watch NA tournaments but Powerless likes to pull a surprise hanabi against his opponents, haha. He goes feather of heaven and glowing wand which surprisingly hurts like hell?? It also burns through wind chant. I’ll really like to see you try it!