Stribog SP9A3 Revisit and "Upgrade Program" Update
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When IV8888 runs low on ammo... we know we have trouble.
Yeah no shit right
Point of clarification real quick. I've never suppressed the SP9A3. The issues I had were centered around finicky ammo and bad magazines. I believe it was MrGunsnGear who had issues while running suppressed. Thanks man!
This firearm would have excited me more if it wasn't so problematic. For 1000.00$ bucks you shouldn't have to finagle or lube your mags. It should run with out so many problems.
Curved mags are out. Stop hating.
Tim - It was my understanding that the curved mags fixed most (all?) of these feed issues. Is that correct?
I need to send mine back as well; shot the "upgraded" version last week and it was flawless
Thank, that's good to know. I have an A3 inbound and was wondering if I made a bone headed decision. Can't have another lemon after I just bought a CZ Bren2 x39 (super lemon) :-(
@@team_pasaway mine turned out well. 300+ rounds straight out of the box without additional cleaning or lubrication. Mix of 115 & 124 gr as brass and steel case. Flawless function an accurate. I know that feeling about a poorly functioning gun. I got myself a HMG CETME L that would not function well until I purchased surplus Spanish CETME L mags
Loved that gun already but in that FDE it looks even more gorgeous.
It's great when something is easily and directly repeatable. Makes you think it is a distinct problem rather than a crappy quality issue.
Distinct problems are addressable by the manufacturer. 👍
It's cool that you revisited this because the stribog is an incredibly confusing topic since half the reviews are glowing and half are exposing its unreliability.
They're very hit or miss in quality. Some get good ones, some get bad ones and some get really bad ones.
I’ve had mine for 6 months 1000 rounds not a problem. 115 124 150 grain zero malfunctions low recoil smooth bought it for my wife she loves it! Thank you for the video!
Tim is the malfunction king
But I find the problems and the companies fix them.
The same rule that applies to new phones, applies to new guns as well ...wait 6 months to a year for the kinks to get identified and worked out.
I never had a problem with mine unsuppressed. Only hiccups were when suppressed after about 3 mags. It got so gritty that the bolt would lock back and stay back (even when loaded) unless I really hit that charging handle forward. Not a mag catch thing, just gritty. Needed to be cleaned every mag to stay happy. Sent it off to GP because they were willing to recall them and I just got it back. Hoping to try er' out here soon. I will say though, Global Ordnance took care of this incredibly well. They sent me a return label, and had it back about 10 days after initially sending it out.
You know things are getting really scarce when channels like this even are running low on 9mm....
@C-Bomb I have a few 9mm's but my usual edc is .45 acp and so far it's been fairly easy to get but I did notice that my local shop was down to a handful of boxes the last few visits I made. Been considering getting back into reloading but even reloading supplies are getting scarce and fetching a premium.
Just got my SP9A3 new after the fixes were pushed out - ran it straight out of the box no cleaning & added on a red dot. Three metal lip mags and two 20 round first gen mags used.
50 rounds 115gr Federal for zero and to finish out the box. No issues, noticed ejection at 2 o'clock
250 rounds of mix 115gr Wolf and Tula. No issues, noticed ejection at 3-4 o'clock
45 rounds left over 124gr S&B. No issues, noticed similar 2 o'clock ejection pattern as 115 Federal.
Have not noticed issue with the cases getting stuck behind the bolt.
Shooting from a rest, excellent accuracy.
Overall very happy I waited for the upgrade.
Can't say how much better the flat trigger is vs the old one but my experience with the flat is that it's pretty good. Not as good as say my CMC or Elftmann single stages however.
Love it never getting rid of mine.
I have the GEN two not the roller delayed bolt. And it runs fantastic. I only run the curve mags no issues.
I just got shot by the ak guy and he used an AR. I feel so betrayed😔
Dang, I really wanted this gun, but not with those problems 😔
Buy a lingle industries lower. It uses the way better scorpion evo mags.
I have the blowback version and love it. Feed it all kinds of different ammo even reloads. I'm so glad I didnt get a problem gun.
Dude I got the sp9a1 gen 2 and it jams A LOTTT. but I only ran steel case ..but STILL
HOLY SHIT.
Thank you so much. I was about to drop a grand on the stribog because it was still in stock. Still will once they get it squared away. Love the channel bro
I'll stick with my Scorpion Micro.
I'll stick with foxtrot Mike FM9
@@erwinwiesbauer9913 Interesting. If that's the case then send them an email they have excellent customer support. What kind of ammo were you using?
Thanks for your honest evaluation of a fantastic firearm!!!!
You should do a meltdown with a Springfield Saint
Wanted to love this PCC. I ditched mine (A1 Gen 2) and traded it across for a new M70 ZPAP with chrome lined barrel. I am happier now. My KP9 fills the PCC itch and does it better than the BOG IMHO and it eats steel case ammo like a fat kid eats cake.
wags wags, its a nice looking gun. But yah would like to see it without the issues.
Just seen one of these at my local dealer they are awesome definitely on the wish list.
What are you doing STEp-ROUND(double feed) !
Nice video as always! Thank You Sir for sharing!
Still have no idea why they tried to reinvent the wheel with these mags. Just design it to use Glock or AKV/scorpion mags and be done with it. My Scorpion has been 100% reliable over 2k rds.
Gotta sell proprietary mags accessories can contribute alot to the profitably of a product see apple
I have over a thousand through my A1 Gen 2 with no issues at all with the 7 magazines I have. The Scorpion did use proprietary magazines when it came out rather than a pre-existing design.
Yup, it's all about proprietary mags and continued sales.
Early adopters of any platform should know. The game consoles or games cause frustration for gamers who adopt early. It’s a learning process. The engineering and technicians always consulting.
The only problem with that is that this gun has been on the market in Europe for close to 3 years.
is it illegal to put angle grip under a pistol like in the video?
The only issue I had was with xtp 9mm (reloads) but every other 9mm feeds these so if I want to have a 9mm self defense at home or in my truck not this sold it It dd run great with ball ammo I had the gen 2 mags with metal feed lips
I’ve seen enough, keep it.
Thanks for the update.
I have the G2, no hiccups ..eats steel ammo un suppressed. Great fun
M*Carbo had a KILLER SALE over the Columbus Day weekend selling them far under dealer cost
I lost hope in the company when the owner told people with cracked mags to put them in the oven.
Great video ❤
The unfortunate thing is that the FTF issues don't seem to have anything to do with the recall. The mags have sloppy, weak springs, and the geometry and followers don't seem to be conducive to reliable feeding. The rounds pretty quickly just turn into an unorganized mess and start feeding horribly. For most of us A3 owners this recall came as a bit of a surprise because excess receiver wear wasn't an issue we were aware of, especially in comparison to the garbage mags making reliable feeding nearly impossible. Very disappointed and regretting my purchase of an A3.
U need to test about 200 rounds, can't wait to get my stribog
Chad is a smart fella!
Just got mine back. I know if the serial number is not over 3000, the gun IS affected and needs to go back or be replaced.
GO sent me a new A3(with upgrades). My initial A3 had all the issues described in the video
Honestly, when they announced the new design I was happy to have the original blowback. Not really a fan of the roller design in general.
This one of the best gun and the best channel ever ever found
Would be a good deal if they fixed the feeding/extraction issues and replaced the flimsy safety with metal. I haven't found any aftermarket safety selectors unfortunately.
I'm 500+ rounds into my Stribog. It is very accurate. I've shot Federal FMJ ammo (brass and aluminum) with no issues whatsoever. Suggestion: typical "defensive carry ammo" (i.e. hollow point 9mm) is ubiquitous in the USA, but it is illegal in Europe, so in all likelihood the Stribog and mags were not designed to for it.
The original (non metal feed lip) mags feel week af. Having said that, none of them has failed (yet). The Stribog is one of the most accurate firearms I own. Having said that, did I say that the mags feel weak?
Thanks for video. Is this the updated bolt and flat trigger A3? I'm ready to purest Big daddy. I joined and I mentioned I found out about them from your channel.
Peace brother.
Held off buying a Stribog because I wanted the A3. Finally cleared for import and the great ammo shortage of 2020 hit. Just shooting rimfire until 9x19 is reasonable again.
I would love to see this in .22lr. It would be a lot of fun.
I have not shot my A3 yet because of ammo of the ammo shortage of 2020 & 2021. Just now sending in the bolt and block for recall replacement. I have shot a few mags through my A1 Stribog on occasion during this ammo inflation madness, and a lot of 22 LR through my AR-22's to scratch the itch until prices return to normal levels.
From this video it looks like a mag problem to me. More testing is needed in my opinion
The mags are going through yet another magazine evolution. I would hold off on buying the current gen of steel mags and wait for the new-new ones.
@@Militaryarmschannel
Hey Tim, are the new-new mags you are referencing out yet? If we buy them now will they be the new ones or should I/we still wait? Thanks
So where does this gun sit with the pending new ATF ruling regarding pistol carbines?
there hasn't been a ruling yet or a public statement. wait and see.
@@pc5440 they chose not to prosecute recent bumb stock law in court🤘👌👍
Please do more collabs with Gundrummer! That was absolutely epic!
i love guns but i never had the opportunity to shoot, here in my country guns are very restricted you need lots and lots of documents to get a gun and guns are very expensive here you can only buy up to .40 caliber and even then almost impossible to get and ammunition is extremely expensive
I'm sorry to hear that. 😔. I'm glad you're able to enjoy watching others shooting, though.
Why is there a velcro strap on the back?
How did you get the gun in that color?
Who makes those slot covers on the front?
I think you said that all the ammo was 115 grain. Did you try 147 grain? I had a ton of misfeeds the last time I took out my SP9A1, and I'm pretty sure it was all with 115 grain. I'm looking forward to trying it out with 147.
Teething issues? These guns are already out in Europe. Customers should not be troubleshooting retail ready products for a company.
The SP9A3 has been available in Europe for around 3 years. I find it interesting they brought them to the US with issues they had to know about. This, and they did so on the heals of the SP9A1 debacle where it had issues as well.
@@Militaryarmschannel exactly.. it would also be interesting to see if there are any differences in the euro version and the us production model.
This really is the best way to do it, give it to Americans who will run it into the ground so the problems will get fixed. We are quite good at this….lol
I love your videos could you do a video on the flux mp17 sbr set up
The roller delayed Banshees dont have this problem.
First:Banshees are not roller-delayed! Second:CMMG has a prize-problem!
@@pebo8306 Radial ...sorry guy
@@shawnbuonarosa3188 No harm done!
My main problems were with flat nosed ammo. My Stribog would not run that ammo at all.
Weird. Mine runs hollow points without issue.
Nope...wanted one (and buds has one) but not gonna mess w it..evo all day still wouldn’t trade it for the price
from everything i've seen and playing with mine, the ftf issues are almost completely a mag issue. the follower binds, i use colt mags to fix that. the eject issue seems like something different. i'm hoping with bolt machining recall and ammo i use i won't have that issue.
Can you tell me what length that brace bar is?
Excelente video. 😀😀
Do you know why this double feed doesn't happen with 20rnd plastic magazines? I have problems on my sr9a3 only with 30rnds magazine (curved or straight)... I am going crazy!
B&t 100% worth it
i cant wait for someone to come out with a curved mag for these.
I hear someone may be... I've been pushing for it since the A1. Their straight mags are poorly designed or poorly made, or both.
Every magazine fed weapon evermade starts with weak magazines and has to beef them up. You would think at least once the mfg would start with beefy magazines.
Can you do an AK-V vs. Stribog vid? I’m debating between the two.
Stribog parts on Ebay! III percent
Looking to purchase one from my local shop this week... do you think the problems have been fixed already?
I would just like to say that I am excited about the opportunity to write a comment that is potentially the longest run-on sentence without any bearing on, or mention of the content of the video for which the comment is written.
You have some work to do!
Anyone else have issue with TulAmmo recently? I purchased 80 rounds locally of 150gr 7.62x51 which were rusting or already rusted excessively. Upon closer inspection it appears that they were not lacquered, as they normally are, so every fingerprint was turning into a rust point. This is a new experience for me as I have had no issue with any steel cased ammo in the past. I was just wondering if it was a slip up in quality control due to the desire to get as many rounds out due to the Covid issues now, or if this is common issue?
Cool.👌🏻🇪🇸
Europe has banned magazine with more capacity than ten rounds for longguns... this should decrease terrorism.. but the really decrease is in fun at the range with the STRIBOG.
not to mention, drain cleaner... and pointy things. On the upside, they'll be BBQing with books soon enough. Bring marshmellows.
yet terorrists still use 30 rounders, even here in Europe, the EU-wide high cap magazine ban is what i will call, not one of the solutions to the problem!!!
Here in the US we're not allowed to have "stocks" on these firearms. The arm-brace pistol workaround you see in this video is in jeopardy. The original intent of the law was to prevent people from sawing down rifles into more concealable firearms, because criminals usually favor concealability, but the effect is we can't take something treated as a pistol and make it less concealable by adding a stock.
Do you think the issue is fixed . I really like the gun also but I’d get real frustrated with these malfunctions I put on the back burner was thinking more a car scorpion for that reason but I like this better
Way too many problems with this gun.
@NATE GEIMER Can you please expound on "upgraded bolt and loader"does this mean they are already fixed or inspecded not to have any issues causing the problems ???.... also I just purchased my second Stribog(1/31/2021), 1st was a blow back , 2nd is a roller... both came with curved triggers.. is there any difference in the curved vs. the flat besides the aesthetics ? Thank you !
Yo big homie Floyd's just found the best frickin deal in the land! 69.89$ for 50 rounds of 45 ball lol cheaper than dirt got them fire deals 😂😂😂
And here i am over here with a 1k 5.56
Can you please revisit the m10x-z short handguard version?
What is the weapon light? I can’t see the brand.
What mount and light are you using? Can't seem to figure out what I want to do with my stribog
Can you run the gen2 mags in an sp9a1? Is that model having these failures unsupressed as well?
What's the 8888 stand for??
the first rule of IraqVeteran8888 is you don't talk about 88-88
Nothing. When he created his account Iraqveteran was already taken so he hit a random key a few times and it took. Unfortunately, he didn't know that 88 was a neonazi thing. He's not a nazi. 😂
So is the upgraded version have a flat or curved trigger?
Where can I get the piece that's labeled ergo?
Do y'all do your own reloads?
🤘💀🤘
I have a gen 2 with the A3 tactical brace like yours. is there a trick to getting the buttplate off? Mine never wants to budge without a lot of pressure to it.
I respect you and what you done for this country but you have a platform that we don't and you're in Georgia you should use it to stand up to this governor get people together because they didn't verify the signatures on the votes , everybody in Georgia needs to stand up.
Turkish "+MPT-76 +MPT-55" Gunshot (rifle)
I got to shoot the MPT-76 a few years ago (I have video of it) and it was amazing. I wish we could get them here.
So, are you going to register that, and its magazines as NFA items, or are you planning to sell it to Uncle Sniffer and his ho in tow?
Too be determined...
My question is are the A3 bolts interchangeable in the A1, in order to upgrade the A1, and are the magazines interchangeable, I assume that the mags are at least interchangeable.
The only thing interchangeable are the mags.
Is it just the a3 problem or a1 does the same?
Does anyone have Feed Issues with the SP9A1 and does anyone have a line on in-stock magazines?
Can you make a call of duty advanced warfare red dpt aight
I want this...
Cool vid not first but
I'd buy an A3 if they were the price of an A1 gen 2. 850 for a braced A3 would be worth the price for me.
Meanwhile, my Scorpion has 7000 rounds of steel cased Wolf fired without a single stoppage.
What is a BNT ?
Does the issue affect the older sp9a1 model
No, because those are blowback, the A3 is roller delayed. The problem is with the roller system.
Tim from military arms would have an issue with a goddamn sword. His reliability opinions are null and void. 😂