I appreciate your honesty. I've been working (unarmed) security for 5yrs and I've been thinking about becoming an armed guard for a while but taking my time with that decision. After this video...I think I'm gonna hold off on that for a while. I already get paid pretty well for unarmed and I think I'm gonna see how far I can take it, while still unarmed. Thank you
Wow! This is good stuff man! I always thought like this cause I'm debating getting my armed gun license (live in NYC) but it's so refreshing to actually hear it. If I do get a gun, I might want to imagine it's not even there until it's time to utilize it.
Here in California armed security make $20 an hour I used to be a armed security officer back in July of 2020 I will go practice at LAX range and ammo between July of 2019 to July of 2020 sometimes I go to arrange 2/3 times a month I used to be a member on the Army National Guard my home state of Michigan and California so I know how to take care of myself in a situation for those who are venturing in their first time as armed security officer please be very careful and very vigilant know your surrounding area and don't trust anybody.
Im out in Texas, and I can tell you first hand that they will pay you more unarmed than armed. I recently changed jobs from armed guard to unarmed! Texas sucks even with 10 years Security background they pay more unarmed!
That's definitely a good way to approach it the problem is you don't always get the pick and choose where they put you I mean I guess you do in some regards you could say no but for me I just took whatever they gave me
@PJuhus Hsjsjl this is true all of us who are in this field sees the job openings for armed compared to unarmed I personally dont own a handgun yet so ill have to stack my unarmed money up first
I certainly appreciate that you really don't know how much that means to me it's messages like that that keep encouraging me and make more hey remember the journey is long keep your head up stay focused
The only thing I don't understand is the whole "Is it worth it". I get you are trying to help people understand the consequences of pulling the trigger. What I don't understand is if there is an assailant and you don't have a gun..... your odds of fatality increase dramatically. I've been mugged before (in a gun free zone) and it taught me that if people want to do damage. They will. I really do love your video explanations and I hope that anybody who goes into security or anything close to it finds your videos. They also need training. Training never stops. Learning never stops. Learning the law around these matters is every bit as important as proficiency with your weapon. Stay vigilant brother.
Yeah I too get what he is saying in the video but unarmed security doesn't make sense to me at all hents the word security ,how can you do security if you doing security and are not secure your self , Yes it goes back in training knowing what not to do or knowing the laws . What difference does Make if your a security officer or citizen just know what your doing and own it . It seems in his video that because your a security officer you can get in so much trouble and law suits , your company may fire you at Long as the shooting is justified ,I don't understand all this crap about laws suits and getting a lawyer . Justified shooting is justified shooting ,you have to prove mallace or in tent to harm someone so if they can't do that I'm shooting some one if it is diffentley needed it's my life or my family life .not worried about some ass hole trying to kill me or lawyer s and being sued . Nothing wrong with feeling bad about talking some one life if you had to use deadly force ,but the world we live in today , again know your weapon your training and the dos and don't of using deadly force yes law in forcemeat do have special powers when shooting some one. But you don't need to be a police officer to shoot some one in self defense. Just saying
Ive been an Armed Guard in California and Florida, and you are right on the money, it really isnt worth it from a financial aspect...i wish someone told me this before i wasted years doing it.....but what i came to realize is that being armed does not pay that much more at the end of the day..,(exactly what you said...plus ammo is getting more expensive, more laws, and cost of new ,renewing permits)....but it does give you the abilty to get a better work assignment (or post) and more hours if you want them....for example something closer to your home that pays 2 bucks more, and that fits your lifestyle schedule because you are armed....better than getting nothing at all...or only a part time shift with hours that ruin your day....either way thanks for the vid. stay safe bro.
@@defcon3security782 yeah cost of living is obviously higher but a lot of the guys I worked with did it for the benefits and retirement. Some of the OGs would do hospital security during the afternoon to evening then do armed security for the housing projects during graveyard shift. They were making 150k + a year.
The problem with most so called security companies is they give no incentive to be an armed professional. I have completed five different schools and have over 500 hours of firearm training and I make the same wage of a person who has the minimal training.
That’s crazy.... been looking into security jobs as a back up gig opposed to sitting around doing nothing when my trade is slow. Been digging into it to see if it would be worth a full time career so far I’ve seen it’s really only worth it if you get plugged into a government position or get a license and taking on private contracts. I can see wages increasing because of the defund the police movement.
No, except for higher pay than unarmed on average. If you do work armed, remember the cardinal rule of security: OBSERVE AND REPORT. You will not be rewarded and may even be punished for doing more.
seems that its not worth it if you weren't already a CCW holder....but as a CCW holder, these rules about going home after work is not a problem. After work, you can be concealed carry as a citizen. thanks for this video
I thought you’d get paid pretty good for carrying a fire arm. I get paid $20 here in cali as an unarmed Security Guard, only needed a guard card…. Damn I was hoping that being an armed security would help me financially but this makes me second guess on what I should pursue this year. (I’m 20 years old)
I've been carrying concealed for years. The last thing I would ever want to do is brandish or actually have to use my sidearm. That being said, I would NEVER work security without being armed. An unarmed guard is a sitting target.
I own a security company in, California and Securiry companies with armed contracts should have at least minimum of, 5 to 7 million dollar liability policy. Majority of shootings, even justified ones, can cost 3 to 5 million in defense costs and other costs for defending the officer and company. Plus, even in justified shootings, the family of the person killed and or injured will sue still and usually gets awarded money, around 500k to 1 million. So, having 5 to 7 million in liability insurance coverage is definitely worth it. It honestly doesn't cost a ton more in monthly premiums for the 5 to 7 million coverage. I mean, a company with 15 employees with a 1 million dollar coverage is only around, 300 to 350 a month. 2 million is only like, 40 to 70 bucks more each month. 7 million can cost around, 1k to 1.5k a month but is definitely worth it. Most security companies do not have 7 plus million dollars laying around in savings for a shooting defense and lawsuits. While still having funds to continue to operate the business.
When you say most companies I want to say all security companies don't have that kind of money laying around I'm glad you're thinking ahead though that is clearly going to be your strong point
Been working armed since 2007 off and on. Depends on where you want to go with it. For me it's like you owning your own patrol service and make some money. I've ran apartments, nightclubs. Then worked EMS form10 years as an EMT. Is having your armed worth it. Yes yes it is. Yes there is a ton of responsibility. And yes there are people who do not ever need to carry lol, but in my years of experience I have seen some really cool things, and get to work a lot with local Leo's. I wouldn't change it for anything. Anyways stay safe out there
I’ve carried a firearm for 42 years. Air force Law Enforcement, DOD contracts, US Army/DOD Civilian, private security. It’s a mindset. You don’t learn that in a couple weeks class. It takes years. My advise, Go military or police before working private armed security. Also buy some lawful carry insurance in case you shoot someone. If you’re doing it just to carry a gun, you’re highly mistaken.
long term better to have carry. when first purchase it sucks ass. better when you already own a handgun. Also if you put in for your ccw at same time as open carry. You can get higher level executive protection work ontop of fire arm position.
Let me throw my 2 cents in, I have been working unarmed security for 9 years. I just started doing armed security about 8 months ago. Things I have noticed- Armed guards get more respect. People will not test armed guards as much as unarmed guards. Armed guards get placed in more dangerous sites. Armed guards get much better pay based on company. Armed guards Usually carry non lethal weapons with them as well. (pepper spray and baton) Unarmed guards get more relaxed sites. Unarmed guards Typically deal with more commercial sites. (Stores and malls) Unarmed guards get messed with more.
You are absolutely correct for this reason I would not go unarmed I get treated completely differently as I have the same defenses as a civilian that would be like a person trying to rob a dick without a gun they just wouldn't get that respect
I'm a veteran: MP 4yr(active) 🎗, licensed security FDACS.gov . I'm armed-G. I've worked in the public & private sector. Armed & unarmed. In short, armed posts are "better" in most ways but as noted, you need to be mature, able to know the laws, gear, ammunition, tactics, etc. In the 2020s, far to many private companies hire or pick un-qualified, immature guards, officers. An ex cop or retired SF military guy can't turn a 21yr old into a skilled officer, competent in 3 days, 3 weeks. Armed officers need to stay focused on the industry, training, laws. ⚖️
When seeking a employer, they need to pay for your training requalification and should give a uniform allowance that pays for holster gear. If not move on to another employer that takes responsibility for there employees.
Man i wish i didn't make the choice of Getting into armed security in order to get experience for a PD, i was 22 when i made that choice, now im 29 and im still stuck lol, security is a trap.
In Australia minimum wage is 24.50 an hour. I'm making 85k a year on a Railway contract most guards make around 70k in 2023 as a full time security officer. Please google if you don't believe me. Security guards in Australia get extra for weekend work and nights or afternoon shifts it's called penalty rates.
That's a pretty decent wage and I tell folks out there or excuse me out here that they should be aiming for higher pay I make anywhere between 3:00 and 4 times higher than the average worker most people don't believe me and I have to email them a copy of my pay stub you'd be surprised it how much I make and it all has to do with attitude and having a good interview
Good insight, but I think the one cost you didn’t add in is the one that’s most important....your own life. Respectfully, working as an unarmed guard is extremely reckless. You are assuming all of the risk of a first responder with even less of the potential safety equipment of that of an armed guard. Security personnel are already at a great disadvantage being known and recognized as “not law enforcement”, and not having even the visual deterrent of a firearm in my opinion is placing your life in a multiplied amount of danger. If you aren’t making a significant amount more as an armed guard, I would say that you have chosen the wrong company. Remember, we don’t get paid what we are worth, we get paid what we accept. All of the extra time, effort and commitment you explained in being an armed guard is worth the extra pay, even when asked to work an unarmed site, but that’s a completely different conversation. Love what you’re doing and what you’ve built here my man. All said with respect, and wishing you continued health and prosperity. Watch your six and be great 👍
you cannot and should not be an armed guard if you are a hothead, poor shot or mentally unstable. not everyone is meant to be an armed guard. also here's the breakdown of what you'll spend for a license... psych test: 65. 2 day training: 180. BSIS: 100. live scan: 112. 100 rounds of each caliber you apply for: 60-200. you're own gun: 700-1500. holster: 100-200. duty belt: 50-200. mag pouch: 30-50.
If you want to carry a gun get a ccw. I’ve been working as an unarmed security for 7 years and this is my first month being armed for just $17 per hour in California. The class and equipment is about $3,000 total. I really thought I was going to make “money”. It’s easy work, but when it comes down to it when someone has a gun to the clients employees face will you let them die or defend them and yourself? I regret paying for all that. If I knew it cost that much I would’ve went a different route, but I already paid for everything so there’s no going back. Everything decon said is 100% facts. If you plan on getting your exposed carry get a yearly plan with a certified exposed carry permit range so you could go any time without having to pay extra. And like he said, a civil lawsuit might occur when you’re laughing and eating steak with your family.
I been doing this job for 37 year.in this time i only had to pull my gun twice and with two shooting .it just another tool on the belt.As for the lawer use us shield. They will cover you while on duty.
While 37 years that is amazing I'm sure you have a lot of stories to tell and a lot of knowledge and thanks for the info that's good to know covered while on duty
Helllllll Noooooo. If you're not a real Cop, do not go armed. Why. Because armed security guards do not have shoulder radios, quick physical back up, federal authority, legal back up and protection that real Cops have.
The Gun is to protect the people and yourself. You should never, and hopefully you will not use the gun. But in certain circumstances, you might have to your guns.
I use it as a visual deterrent mainly I think it works great for that reason as far as having to pull it out I definitely don't like when I have to do that and I've only done it when I've had other people pull guns on me
It depends cause armed I was making $16.50/hr & now unarned I am making $19/hr. Having a gun doesn’t mean you will automatically get paid more, it depends on the company & account manager.
It depends on which security company you work for. I work for a big company securing one of the biggest hospitals in one of the most dangerous cities in the united states and we have 25 blocks to cover in our city. We are the best because we're trained by the best. I agree with what your saying with a firearm however in our city people like to shoot at you. So, that may not be the best advice pending on where you work. If in your mind you don't think you could take a life to save someones or your own then you do no need to be a guard of any kind. You sign up for this job not to get rich but to protect and serve.
I absolutely agree ... I to work a hospital in Oakland Ca which is one of the murder capitals of the world ... Pay is good ... I signed up to this job as a stepping stone to bigger opportunities ...what state you work out of ?
@@defcon3security782 Stl for Barnes Jewish Hospital . This is my moms account though. lol. I choose to keep my name off the internet. I feel you on the Chicago thing. Stay strong my brother. Hang in there.
Hell. I'm armed cos IM SCARED. I'm 63yrs old. Can't do my High Tae Kwon Do axe kicks no more. I NEED A LITTLE EQUALIZER: 200 grn 45 ACP JHP. If you feel me.
I recommend you get yourself a 9 mm in that $500 range don't get a high point and get yourself a bulletproof vest one that fits you comfortably and little by little buildup
If you enjoy it yes. Is it a career im going to say unless if you are the very top 5% I do it because I enjoy it. It doesnt pay well. I work my other job to actually pay my bills.
if you sign up to do Security.....a word to the wise: Make sure that you have TWO Cellphones! (The Boss should only know about one phone) On your off-day....turn that phone that you put on your job application....OFF! Why? Because on one of your off-days...the Boss will call you to come in because somebody was sick or had an emergency. You better have two phones...if not otherwise, then you're actually On-call. If you're working Grave-shift...you really, Really NEED those 2 off-days!
At the end of the day I would rather work armed for no extra pay for the sake of being able to put up a fight because I have a gun instead of hoping they don't shoot me even when I don't have one.
A lot of armed guards I know get into it for the opportunity to protect innocent people and their property. I agree that there are people that get into it for the wrong reasons, I’ve been an armed security officer for about six years and I’m very happy with my hourly wage. Get into armed security for the opportunity to protect people not for the aesthetics.
Nice video I’m about to get firearm training on my 21st bday, and interested in going into brinks being armored driver? Any thoughts about armored driver job? Thx
Considering it's a big company and it's a driver you never going to make more than 19 an hour I know some people might push back and say no that's not the case but jobs like that generally don't pay enough having said that it could be a pretty cool gig you're not standing up all day in the sun you're inside of an air conditioning vehicle congratulations and you know what I made this video I was still a little bit amateur looking back arm is the way to go that's where the real money is
The company I work for now pretty much gives you all your equipment but this is the first time I've ever worked for a company that has given me all my equipment usually you go out and buy your own equipment having said that the equipment that they gave me I don't care too much for so I went out and bought my own anyways the only thing that I have to carry that belongs to them is the handgun and ammunition
If you think it’s cool to carry a gun and that’s all you want you might as well just join the military instead. It’s not worth it for the average person unless you’re super motivated. This man speaks facts
Matt I'm definitely motivated that's for sure and the income I make keeps up the motivation but you're absolutely right if you want to just carry a gun join the military when I first started carrying a firearm I actually thought it was cool now it's just an extension of my tools it rarely ever comes out and doesn't give me any extra confidence my ability to deescalate is my confidence since I've made that video I can definitely say I've changed my mind being an armed guard is worth it being unarmed is not worth it it's not worth your life and it's not worth to pay maybe you just gave me an idea for a new video
Thanks for posting this video I’m still debating getting a job as a security guard to for a company so I can get my TS/SCI. This has definitely helped me think more about sending in my resume and cover letter!
Collecting money is cool for business to keep flowing. He's right about the liability present for this job and most are underpaid involving armed security services. Respect
what if the guard also has a licence to carry for their state? are they still required to go directly home and not allowed to get gas, or what ever they may need to do? since they are licence for personal carry as well.
That's a great question I suppose then you would conceal a weapon and put it into your waistband however you would have to take your uniform off and change into civilian clothes that's my best guess likewise usually you're open carry weapon is too big to be concealable comfortably not always but in most cases
@@defcon3security782 not worried about concealed. I live in Indiana. Its your choice. And my daily carry is way to big for concealed. I put a shirt over it but you can see it. Hard to hide a full size Springfield XD with a 16 capacity magazine
@@defcon3security782 yeah that is one state that i do not want to live in. I only started to carry, with my license, after we had a guy that shot up a grocery store that i used to shop at. my city is getting very violent and it did not used to be this way. almost every week or twice a week we are having shootings. this is a trend that is getting worse each year here.
There is a job opening at Black Mesa, I got a phone call from Gordon Freeman. He said it's easy money and nothing exciting happens and it's a very laid back job. SHOULD I TAKE THE JOB?
@@defcon3security782 You know I was joking right? Black Mesa is from that PC game called HALF-LIFE and you can play as the security officer in the expansion pack.
The reason I gonna go armed is bc I wanna make a difference, as a unarmed I most worked a gate holder. I don't enjoy that 👎🏽. I'm gonna go armed because it will give me a major role. Yes it also means the responsibility is gonna increase but at the end your making a difference.
And ultimately you're going to make more money this video is a little bit outdated I would like to make a follow-up video and tell people that if you really want to make money you got to be an armed guard
I’m curious, as an aspiring security guard on your first couple day(s) as a guard does someone show you ropes and what to do? Or do you learn as you go, on your own?
Cameron honestly you just kind of learn as you go nobody really tells you what to do this is my experience with every company they will say hey guard this post make sure you focus on people walking in it's slippery over there so make sure nobody goes over there that generator is worth $1000000 so keep your eye on that don't let any cars pull up that's your typical post orders sometimes they just say hey Mike can you go to this site and when I get there there's no guard and I'm like well I guess I'm just going to stand here and make sure nothing weird goes on but Cameron I'm coming out with a video on Wednesday actually it will be Thursday cuz I'm going to start filming it Wednesday the day in the life of a security guard so you will see exactly what I do from wake up to clock out
There are key equipment for unarmed officer's. 1. Quality note pad and 2 writing pens. 2. A durable 500 lumen plus flashlight with a few modes. 3. An effect security officer app in the cell phone if affordable or a good notes app for a Daily Activity Report and a second for Incident report. Always ask questions and have your supervisors emergency contact information. It is a must to have city emergency response numbers ( 911 can be jammed up ) and job site contacts.
Absolutely true thanks for being part of the channel my man you know we help each other out here it's a never-ending learning process the journey is long
Is working security on the light rail for 15.00,worth it if it’s unarmed with no body armor accept for pepper spray.? During the training process, I was told that getting assaulted will happen,we were even shown a video of a officer, who work for the company,he was nearly beaten to death, he had to be put into ICU.
Some like to be unarmed because its less stressful not having to worry about having your gun taken or possibly take a life. Especially in a safe environment like a desk guard. Also saves a lot of money not having to pay for requals, license fees, training, etc. I prefer armed because I want the ability to protect others and myself of course. Active shooters are unfortunately more common than ever. Crime in general. Id at least carry concealed. Or if its a sterile environment then at least less lethal.
You absolutely make a point I like armed only because I know I can keep myself safe I hate being unarmed you feel so vulnerable unless I'm watching cameras all day long and the risk factor is almost zero
Wow, thank you for breaking everything down! Yeah, financially that's crazy the maintenance of a gun... I think I rather have a CCW lol. Don't gotta deal with all of that aha.
Well some time has passed and honestly my view of this has changed when I made the video back in the day I was making 19 an hour now that I make between 30 and 45 an hour I have to say going armed is the best way to go
You absolutely right brother since I made that video it's been quite some time being armed is definitely worth it but it's only worth it if it's your own company
It really depends on what state you are getting your gun license from. For example Illinois is more strict than Indiana when it comes to getting a gun.
California is the strictest of them all that's why becoming an armed guard in some regards can be worth it but you got to make sure you know your worth know your value and get paid appropriately
I'd like to do a follow-up video that's probably one of the next videos I'm going to do once I update folks on what's been going on in my life but there is a lot of money in being an armed guard so I wouldn't change anything right now I don't work for less than 35 to 42 bucks an hour and at times I've even made more my job is really simple I have a very easy post and I get to control my own environment since I am a higher rank in my company I don't do this get paid by salary nonsense because they can make you work a ton of hours for nothing so I work by the hour I get paid good full benefits you can email me if you really curious what job I have but there's no way I can talk about it in a TH-cam video
Yes buddy I think you have to go straight and I think yes it's hr. People the reason getting a security job may be easy is because it a risk not worth taking
I was a commissioned officer in TX for 10 years or so and honestly knowing what I know now I would only use it as stepping stone. I was also one of the lucky ones making decent money an being a MSGT and OIC. The bull shit you have to deal with is not worth the money an time you will put in. If you want to work every holiday plus extremely long hours then go for it but I don’t recommend it. All the good officers I knew an still know left that stuff behind including myself but this is just my opinion guys.
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I appreciate your honesty. I've been working (unarmed) security for 5yrs and I've been thinking about becoming an armed guard for a while but taking my time with that decision. After this video...I think I'm gonna hold off on that for a while. I already get paid pretty well for unarmed and I think I'm gonna see how far I can take it, while still unarmed. Thank you
Do you guys receive extra pay for nights or weekends? Penalty rates...
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Wow! This is good stuff man! I always thought like this cause I'm debating getting my armed gun license (live in NYC) but it's so refreshing to actually hear it. If I do get a gun, I might want to imagine it's not even there until it's time to utilize it.
Here in California armed security make $20 an hour I used to be a armed security officer back in July of 2020 I will go practice at LAX range and ammo between July of 2019 to July of 2020 sometimes I go to arrange 2/3 times a month I used to be a member on the Army National Guard my home state of Michigan and California so I know how to take care of myself in a situation for those who are venturing in their first time as armed security officer please be very careful and very vigilant know your surrounding area and don't trust anybody.
You should get a higher paying job as a vet.
Utah pays around $21.50 but cost of living is waaaaayyyy less.
@mad_scadd89 OH WOW Utah sounds very affordable! That's definitely not the case in New Jersey!!
@@CleverCheetah what kind of jobs?
On indeed the lowest is 32 an hour in the bay area
Im out in Texas, and I can tell you first hand that they will pay you more unarmed than armed. I recently changed jobs from armed guard to unarmed! Texas sucks even with 10 years Security background they pay more unarmed!
I’d rather be an unarmed guard first in a decent neighborhood then when I’m ready then I’ll be armed when I feel like I got the right training
That's definitely a good way to approach it the problem is you don't always get the pick and choose where they put you I mean I guess you do in some regards you could say no but for me I just took whatever they gave me
exactly where I'm at right now.
True!
@PJuhus Hsjsjl this is true all of us who are in this field sees the job openings for armed compared to unarmed I personally dont own a handgun yet so ill have to stack my unarmed money up first
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I like how you explain everything thank you, keep up the good work your videos help a lot of people
I certainly appreciate that you really don't know how much that means to me it's messages like that that keep encouraging me and make more hey remember the journey is long keep your head up stay focused
Thank You for Sharing This Deep Topic on Guard Talk.. Im thinking about Going into this field...
I don't know where everyone else lives. But in New York. The pay odds usually starting at $25-$30ph.
Cost of living is insane in NY.
The only thing I don't understand is the whole "Is it worth it". I get you are trying to help people understand the consequences of pulling the trigger. What I don't understand is if there is an assailant and you don't have a gun..... your odds of fatality increase dramatically. I've been mugged before (in a gun free zone) and it taught me that if people want to do damage. They will. I really do love your video explanations and I hope that anybody who goes into security or anything close to it finds your videos. They also need training. Training never stops. Learning never stops. Learning the law around these matters is every bit as important as proficiency with your weapon. Stay vigilant brother.
Yeah I too get what he is saying in the video but unarmed security doesn't make sense to me at all hents the word security ,how can you do security if you doing security and are not secure your self , Yes it goes back in training knowing what not to do or knowing the laws . What difference does Make if your a security officer or citizen just know what your doing and own it . It seems in his video that because your a security officer you can get in so much trouble and law suits , your company may fire you at Long as the shooting is justified ,I don't understand all this crap about laws suits and getting a lawyer . Justified shooting is justified shooting ,you have to prove mallace or in tent to harm someone so if they can't do that I'm shooting some one if it is diffentley needed it's my life or my family life .not worried about some ass hole trying to kill me or lawyer s and being sued . Nothing wrong with feeling bad about talking some one life if you had to use deadly force ,but the world we live in today , again know your weapon your training and the dos and don't of using deadly force yes law in forcemeat do have special powers when shooting some one. But you don't need to be a police officer to shoot some one in self defense. Just saying
Ive been an Armed Guard in California and Florida, and you are right on the money, it really isnt worth it from a financial aspect...i wish someone told me this before i wasted years doing it.....but what i came to realize is that being armed does not pay that much more at the end of the day..,(exactly what you said...plus ammo is getting more expensive, more laws, and cost of new ,renewing permits)....but it does give you the abilty to get a better work assignment (or post) and more hours if you want them....for example something closer to your home that pays 2 bucks more, and that fits your lifestyle schedule because you are armed....better than getting nothing at all...or only a part time shift with hours that ruin your day....either way thanks for the vid. stay safe bro.
Glad I'm not the only that knows this ..thanks for being part of this small channels family
I m from fla .been in this for 37 year .the gun is just another tool for the job .
I work armed security here In Florida it’s not worth it
I did hospital security for 7 years. Went from $20/hr to $32/hr. Armed security here in the Bay Area is usually $35 - $40/hr.
@@wrbk19 That's what I try to tell folks that are working seventeen bucks an hour
@@defcon3security782 yeah cost of living is obviously higher but a lot of the guys I worked with did it for the benefits and retirement. Some of the OGs would do hospital security during the afternoon to evening then do armed security for the housing projects during graveyard shift. They were making 150k + a year.
Ive been working mobile patrol in the bay area since I left the military. Thinking about getting armed. I saw one job on indeed thats 45$ an hour.
ive got IMMENSE respect for you Sir.. thank you for being brutally honest. you are good people..🤝🏼
Awesome video im actually looking into starting my own armored truck company.
hope it works out bro. 💪
100% been in LE/ Security most my life. This is accurate.
Here in GA you only have to re-qualify with your firearm Once a year...
Always remember, there is an Attorney attached to every bullet fired. Great video, just subbed a little while ago
The problem with most so called security companies is they give no incentive to be an armed professional. I have completed five different schools and have over 500 hours of firearm training and I make the same wage of a person who has the minimal training.
That’s crazy.... been looking into security jobs as a back up gig opposed to sitting around doing nothing when my trade is slow. Been digging into it to see if it would be worth a full time career so far I’ve seen it’s really only worth it if you get plugged into a government position or get a license and taking on private contracts.
I can see wages increasing because of the defund the police movement.
No, except for higher pay than unarmed on average. If you do work armed, remember the cardinal rule of security: OBSERVE AND REPORT. You will not be rewarded and may even be punished for doing more.
seems that its not worth it if you weren't already a CCW holder....but as a CCW holder, these rules about going home after work is not a problem. After work, you can be concealed carry as a citizen. thanks for this video
Sometimes it's good. Other times forget it. If I'm forced to work double shift and I'm half asleep. I unload and lock it up in gun safe in my car
Going to take my G course on the 19th love the videos man i currently work as a overnight weekend patrol officer easy work and honest work.
Honest work thats the most important part..bless you brother hang in there and let this be a stepping stone to bigger things in life
@@defcon3security782 thank you man take care
Make that day in a life video be safe out there 💯stay safe king 👑
You know it !!! Prob start filming Wed morning
No lies detected! 💯
Omg thank you so much for this video
I only went armed for higher pay and a clearance. If I could get a clearance unarmed, I would never go armed.
I like your honest honesty I just take my decision about armed guard❤
You said everything in the right way, very aware and insightful!
I thought you’d get paid pretty good for carrying a fire arm. I get paid $20 here in cali as an unarmed Security Guard, only needed a guard card…. Damn I was hoping that being an armed security would help me financially but this makes me second guess on what I should pursue this year. (I’m 20 years old)
how do you get guard card im trying to get a security job
@@usernameremoved u apply online
@@usernameremoved act 235 course cost money tho
I've been carrying concealed for years. The last thing I would ever want to do is brandish or actually have to use my sidearm. That being said, I would NEVER work security without being armed. An unarmed guard is a sitting target.
That is absolutely true this is why when I first came to North Carolina I didn't want to take a job unarmed I actually waited till I became armed
@@defcon3security782 I'm in NC too
I own a security company in, California and Securiry companies with armed contracts should have at least minimum of, 5 to 7 million dollar liability policy. Majority of shootings, even justified ones, can cost 3 to 5 million in defense costs and other costs for defending the officer and company. Plus, even in justified shootings, the family of the person killed and or injured will sue still and usually gets awarded money, around 500k to 1 million. So, having 5 to 7 million in liability insurance coverage is definitely worth it. It honestly doesn't cost a ton more in monthly premiums for the 5 to 7 million coverage. I mean, a company with 15 employees with a 1 million dollar coverage is only around, 300 to 350 a month. 2 million is only like, 40 to 70 bucks more each month. 7 million can cost around, 1k to 1.5k a month but is definitely worth it. Most security companies do not have 7 plus million dollars laying around in savings for a shooting defense and lawsuits. While still having funds to continue to operate the business.
When you say most companies I want to say all security companies don't have that kind of money laying around I'm glad you're thinking ahead though that is clearly going to be your strong point
I don't see the video as bleak, but realistic. Thank you for candid opinions. Would love a live stream.
Thanks for the input ... Definitely looking forward to a live stream..Brother please be safe have a great week
I want to carry for my personal protection on the job sure you get a little more money when armed but i just want to be safe
Been working armed since 2007 off and on. Depends on where you want to go with it. For me it's like you owning your own patrol service and make some money. I've ran apartments, nightclubs. Then worked EMS form10 years as an EMT. Is having your armed worth it. Yes yes it is. Yes there is a ton of responsibility. And yes there are people who do not ever need to carry lol, but in my years of experience I have seen some really cool things, and get to work a lot with local Leo's. I wouldn't change it for anything. Anyways stay safe out there
I absolutely agree with you I would actually copy and paste what you wrote until that to a lot of people as you summed it up pretty well
I am automotive painter would you recommend I become a armed guard or stuck to painting
Been doing unarmed for 2 years thinking about getting my g license cause I turned 21 October also just passed my ccw course
That's my next big thing getting my CCW license good for you hold on to that thing it will literally save your life one day
I’ve carried a firearm for 42 years. Air force Law Enforcement, DOD contracts, US Army/DOD Civilian, private security. It’s a mindset. You don’t learn that in a couple weeks class. It takes years. My advise, Go military or police before working private armed security. Also buy some lawful carry insurance in case you shoot someone. If you’re doing it just to carry a gun, you’re highly mistaken.
Im a cdl driver, thinking about driving cdl armored trucks. Like my current job, but thinking about it.
long term better to have carry. when first purchase it sucks ass. better when you already own a handgun. Also if you put in for your ccw at same time as open carry. You can get higher level executive protection work ontop of fire arm position.
I carry a gun because I refuse to be a victim.
Let me throw my 2 cents in, I have been working unarmed security for 9 years. I just started doing armed security about 8 months ago.
Things I have noticed-
Armed guards get more respect.
People will not test armed guards as much as unarmed guards.
Armed guards get placed in more dangerous sites.
Armed guards get much better pay based on company.
Armed guards Usually carry non lethal weapons with them as well. (pepper spray and baton)
Unarmed guards get more relaxed sites.
Unarmed guards Typically deal with more commercial sites. (Stores and malls)
Unarmed guards get messed with more.
You are absolutely correct for this reason I would not go unarmed I get treated completely differently as I have the same defenses as a civilian that would be like a person trying to rob a dick without a gun they just wouldn't get that respect
@@defcon3security782 I hope you know you’re a good help to young people who want to get into this career
People respect those with power but at the same time some can be offended just seeing you and the gun.
I'm a veteran: MP 4yr(active) 🎗, licensed security FDACS.gov . I'm armed-G. I've worked in the public & private sector. Armed & unarmed. In short, armed posts are "better" in most ways but as noted, you need to be mature, able to know the laws, gear, ammunition, tactics, etc. In the 2020s, far to many private companies hire or pick un-qualified, immature guards, officers. An ex cop or retired SF military guy can't turn a 21yr old into a skilled officer, competent in 3 days, 3 weeks. Armed officers need to stay focused on the industry, training, laws. ⚖️
I'd love to see a day in the life from you man. Love your stuff. As well as a live stream! Much love man. Stay safe and stay smart!
Hey bro that means a bunch Wednesday morning I'll start the filming
@@defcon3security782 did you end up doing one?
Agreed, the money and befits should be given to the guys that carry it.
When seeking a employer, they need to pay for your training requalification and should give a uniform allowance that pays for holster gear.
If not move on to another employer that takes responsibility for there employees.
Yes it great job the pay is great for a single man working everyday love it Armed the best man
Man i wish i didn't make the choice of Getting into armed security in order to get experience for a PD, i was 22 when i made that choice, now im 29 and im still stuck lol, security is a trap.
In Australia minimum wage is 24.50 an hour. I'm making 85k a year on a Railway contract most guards make around 70k in 2023 as a full time security officer. Please google if you don't believe me. Security guards in Australia get extra for weekend work and nights or afternoon shifts it's called penalty rates.
That's a pretty decent wage and I tell folks out there or excuse me out here that they should be aiming for higher pay I make anywhere between 3:00 and 4 times higher than the average worker most people don't believe me and I have to email them a copy of my pay stub you'd be surprised it how much I make and it all has to do with attitude and having a good interview
I would never work security without my firearm..being unarmed is worthless..specially here in los angeles which the crime rate is high..
Yep same.
Good insight, but I think the one cost you didn’t add in is the one that’s most important....your own life.
Respectfully, working as an unarmed guard is extremely reckless. You are assuming all of the risk of a first responder with even less of the potential safety equipment of that of an armed guard. Security personnel are already at a great disadvantage being known and recognized as “not law enforcement”, and not having even the visual deterrent of a firearm in my opinion is placing your life in a multiplied amount of danger. If you aren’t making a significant amount more as an armed guard, I would say that you have chosen the wrong company. Remember, we don’t get paid what we are worth, we get paid what we accept. All of the extra time, effort and commitment you explained in being an armed guard is worth the extra pay, even when asked to work an unarmed site, but that’s a completely different conversation.
Love what you’re doing and what you’ve built here my man. All said with respect, and wishing you continued health and prosperity.
Watch your six and be great 👍
Everything you said is correct and accurate
Thanks !!! But my opinion has changed a bit at the time I was making $19 now I make way more and I feel the money and job is worth it
@@defcon3security782 i agree as well now I’m applying for a position $20/hour armed
That's a great start !!!!
you cannot and should not be an armed guard if you are a hothead, poor shot or mentally unstable. not everyone is meant to be an armed guard. also here's the breakdown of what you'll spend for a license... psych test: 65. 2 day training: 180. BSIS: 100. live scan: 112. 100 rounds of each caliber you apply for: 60-200. you're own gun: 700-1500. holster: 100-200. duty belt: 50-200. mag pouch: 30-50.
If you want to carry a gun get a ccw. I’ve been working as an unarmed security for 7 years and this is my first month being armed for just $17 per hour in California. The class and equipment is about $3,000 total. I really thought I was going to make “money”. It’s easy work, but when it comes down to it when someone has a gun to the clients employees face will you let them die or defend them and yourself? I regret paying for all that. If I knew it cost that much I would’ve went a different route, but I already paid for everything so there’s no going back. Everything decon said is 100% facts. If you plan on getting your exposed carry get a yearly plan with a certified exposed carry permit range so you could go any time without having to pay extra. And like he said, a civil lawsuit might occur when you’re laughing and eating steak with your family.
You are underpaid for armed security, you should be paid $25+/hr minimum. Even In n Out and McDonalds employees make $17.00 these days.
Great info 👍 Love your videos.
What state you in bro? You need to come to Arkansas. We ain't got it like that.
I been doing this job for 37 year.in this time i only had to pull my gun twice and with two shooting .it just another tool on the belt.As for the lawer use us shield. They will cover you while on duty.
While 37 years that is amazing I'm sure you have a lot of stories to tell and a lot of knowledge and thanks for the info that's good to know covered while on duty
Helllllll Noooooo.
If you're not a real Cop, do not go armed.
Why.
Because armed security guards do not have shoulder radios, quick physical back up, federal authority, legal back up and protection that real Cops have.
I'm an armed security guard in Brazil. In here you don't get paid any extra for working armed. No matter the site you are working in.
The Gun is to protect the people and yourself. You should never, and hopefully you will not use the gun. But in certain circumstances, you might have to your guns.
I use it as a visual deterrent mainly I think it works great for that reason as far as having to pull it out I definitely don't like when I have to do that and I've only done it when I've had other people pull guns on me
It depends cause armed I was making $16.50/hr & now unarned I am making $19/hr. Having a gun doesn’t mean you will automatically get paid more, it depends on the company & account manager.
Actually it does. The best armed job will always pay more than unarmed. You just looked at a crap company for armed.
It depends on which security company you work for. I work for a big company securing one of the biggest hospitals in one of the most dangerous cities in the united states and we have 25 blocks to cover in our city. We are the best because we're trained by the best. I agree with what your saying with a firearm however in our city people like to shoot at you. So, that may not be the best advice pending on where you work. If in your mind you don't think you could take a life to save someones or your own then you do no need to be a guard of any kind. You sign up for this job not to get rich but to protect and serve.
I absolutely agree ... I to work a hospital in Oakland Ca which is one of the murder capitals of the world ... Pay is good ... I signed up to this job as a stepping stone to bigger opportunities ...what state you work out of ?
@@defcon3security782 Stl for Barnes Jewish Hospital . This is my moms account though. lol. I choose to keep my name off the internet. I feel you on the Chicago thing. Stay strong my brother. Hang in there.
Meant to say Oakland but was watching the news on Chicago.lol oh well..hang in there anyway.
Protect and serve is for Police not Security. Regardless of the company, you will always make pennies while they make dollars.
Hell. I'm armed cos IM SCARED. I'm 63yrs old. Can't do my High Tae Kwon Do axe kicks no more. I NEED A LITTLE EQUALIZER: 200 grn 45 ACP JHP. If you feel me.
No I feel you brother I'm starting to feel like I'm going to be in that same boat pretty soon
Become a ranking security officer, make the extra $$ and do not need a gun. Most companies have Seargent, Lieutenant and Captain.
Hi friend am going to start working in arms guard-Truck-ect-which weapons you recommend me to buys-?
I recommend you get yourself a 9 mm in that $500 range don't get a high point and get yourself a bulletproof vest one that fits you comfortably and little by little buildup
Do you get tased or peppered sprayed when you become an armed security guard
Because I have a contract with the state I had to get pepper sprayed some of us even got taser
how's the exotic insect business doing for you?
If you enjoy it yes. Is it a career im going to say unless if you are the very top 5%
I do it because I enjoy it. It doesnt pay well. I work my other job to actually pay my bills.
I definitely make in that top 5% and that's what I try to encourage others to do
if you sign up to do Security.....a word to the wise: Make sure that you have TWO Cellphones! (The Boss should only know about one phone) On your off-day....turn that phone that you put on your job application....OFF! Why? Because on one of your off-days...the Boss will call you to come in because somebody was sick or had an emergency. You better have two phones...if not otherwise, then you're actually On-call. If you're working Grave-shift...you really, Really NEED those 2 off-days!
I absolutely agree and you get taxed so much on overtime you almost make no money it's not worth working on your days off
At the end of the day I would rather work armed for no extra pay for the sake of being able to put up a fight because I have a gun instead of hoping they don't shoot me even when I don't have one.
A lot of armed guards I know get into it for the opportunity to protect innocent people and their property. I agree that there are people that get into it for the wrong reasons, I’ve been an armed security officer for about six years and I’m very happy with my hourly wage. Get into armed security for the opportunity to protect people not for the aesthetics.
I got a question do you have to be former Military or Law Enforcement to be an Armed guard at Loomis or Brinks?
No
Only want armed guard to make more money. Wouldn't get my armed if I didnt need the extra money.
How was the process ? where did you go? I just paid for the CCW class and the armed sora course. How long did it take for you to find a gig
Do you drive your emergency vehicle with your sirens and lights on while you are on in the vehicle
I dont drive an emergency vehicle
Did they ask you for a high school diploma ? I know you need one but did you have to produce it or did they even ask you for it ?
Please keep giving information 🙏
I just started back up brother I'm going to be consistent moving forward
Nice video I’m about to get firearm training on my 21st bday, and interested in going into brinks being armored driver? Any thoughts about armored driver job? Thx
Considering it's a big company and it's a driver you never going to make more than 19 an hour I know some people might push back and say no that's not the case but jobs like that generally don't pay enough having said that it could be a pretty cool gig you're not standing up all day in the sun you're inside of an air conditioning vehicle congratulations and you know what I made this video I was still a little bit amateur looking back arm is the way to go that's where the real money is
@@defcon3security782 right on, how long did it take you for firearms permit to process? And I’m in the Bay Area too if u got any job recommends ✌️
Do any companies give you equipment or do you have to buy your own
The company I work for now pretty much gives you all your equipment but this is the first time I've ever worked for a company that has given me all my equipment usually you go out and buy your own equipment having said that the equipment that they gave me I don't care too much for so I went out and bought my own anyways the only thing that I have to carry that belongs to them is the handgun and ammunition
If you think it’s cool to carry a gun and that’s all you want you might as well just join the military instead. It’s not worth it for the average person unless you’re super motivated. This man speaks facts
Matt I'm definitely motivated that's for sure and the income I make keeps up the motivation but you're absolutely right if you want to just carry a gun join the military when I first started carrying a firearm I actually thought it was cool now it's just an extension of my tools it rarely ever comes out and doesn't give me any extra confidence my ability to deescalate is my confidence since I've made that video I can definitely say I've changed my mind being an armed guard is worth it being unarmed is not worth it it's not worth your life and it's not worth to pay maybe you just gave me an idea for a new video
Thanks for posting this video I’m still debating getting a job as a security guard to for a company so I can get my TS/SCI. This has definitely helped me think more about sending in my resume and cover letter!
Well let me know if you have any questions I know it's been a month but I'm always here to help you out good luck the journey is long
@@defcon3security782 how many stores do you go to do pick ups a day
New York State
Unarmed -$15-$20
Armed- $25-$35
Collecting money is cool for business to keep flowing. He's right about the liability present for this job and most are underpaid involving armed security services. Respect
what if the guard also has a licence to carry for their state? are they still required to go directly home and not allowed to get gas, or what ever they may need to do? since they are licence for personal carry as well.
That's a great question I suppose then you would conceal a weapon and put it into your waistband however you would have to take your uniform off and change into civilian clothes that's my best guess likewise usually you're open carry weapon is too big to be concealable comfortably not always but in most cases
@@defcon3security782 not worried about concealed. I live in Indiana. Its your choice. And my daily carry is way to big for concealed. I put a shirt over it but you can see it. Hard to hide a full size Springfield XD with a 16 capacity magazine
@@bluetonight17 brother I envy you I'm in California here .. I need the manager at Walmart to check my ID to buy a BB gun
@@defcon3security782 yeah that is one state that i do not want to live in. I only started to carry, with my license, after we had a guy that shot up a grocery store that i used to shop at. my city is getting very violent and it did not used to be this way. almost every week or twice a week we are having shootings. this is a trend that is getting worse each year here.
@@bluetonight17 man I get it .. things are out of control
The client doesn't care about you and the company doesn't trust you.. All you are is a body to fill a space so your employer can get paid
Yes! Day and life of a Sercurity Guard will be good, Like on the job training for us.
I actually started one last year recorded the entire date then my phone screen cracked I lost all my data I guess I'll have to do another one
@@defcon3security782 we will wait for you.
There is a job opening at Black Mesa, I got a phone call from Gordon Freeman. He said it's easy money and nothing exciting happens and it's a very laid back job. SHOULD I TAKE THE JOB?
What's the pay ?
@@defcon3security782 You know I was joking right? Black Mesa is from that PC game called HALF-LIFE and you can play as the security officer in the expansion pack.
Bro ....you got me .....feeling dumb
@@defcon3security782 Nah you're good. The game is like 20+ years old!
The reason I gonna go armed is bc I wanna make a difference, as a unarmed I most worked a gate holder. I don't enjoy that 👎🏽. I'm gonna go armed because it will give me a major role. Yes it also means the responsibility is gonna increase but at the end your making a difference.
And ultimately you're going to make more money this video is a little bit outdated I would like to make a follow-up video and tell people that if you really want to make money you got to be an armed guard
@@defcon3security782 can't wait for that video boss man
How would you even know if you haven’t shot someone ?
I actually have quite a few times that's not a bragging right either
I’m curious, as an aspiring security guard on your first couple day(s) as a guard does someone show you ropes and what to do? Or do you learn as you go, on your own?
Cameron honestly you just kind of learn as you go nobody really tells you what to do this is my experience with every company they will say hey guard this post make sure you focus on people walking in it's slippery over there so make sure nobody goes over there that generator is worth $1000000 so keep your eye on that don't let any cars pull up that's your typical post orders sometimes they just say hey Mike can you go to this site and when I get there there's no guard and I'm like well I guess I'm just going to stand here and make sure nothing weird goes on but Cameron I'm coming out with a video on Wednesday actually it will be Thursday cuz I'm going to start filming it Wednesday the day in the life of a security guard so you will see exactly what I do from wake up to clock out
Defcon 3 Security cool thanks for the info, I definitely look forward to seeing your next video.
@@Greyshadow_17 you got it
There are key equipment for unarmed officer's.
1. Quality note pad and 2 writing pens. 2. A durable 500 lumen plus flashlight with a few modes.
3. An effect security officer app in the cell phone if affordable or a good notes app for a Daily Activity Report and a second for Incident report.
Always ask questions and have your supervisors emergency contact information.
It is a must to have city emergency response numbers ( 911 can be jammed up ) and job site contacts.
nice job life should be protected
Absolutely true thanks for being part of the channel my man you know we help each other out here it's a never-ending learning process the journey is long
Do you train in BJJ?
Bro I’m about 21 I trying learn how to be a good arm guard
Good luck brother man
Not me I only want it for self defense it's going to be my last resort when all else fails
That's a good attitude to have
Armed guards should make no less than 28 bucks starting !
Yeah 18$ an hour is crazy. Fast food employees make more than that.
Is working security on the light rail for 15.00,worth it if it’s unarmed with no body armor accept for pepper spray.? During the training process, I was told that getting assaulted will happen,we were even shown a video of a officer, who work for the company,he was nearly beaten to death, he had to be put into ICU.
Honestly if you know you're gonna get assaulted even making 500 bucks an hour is not worth it in my humble opinion
I would've walked out that moment.
Thats the last job u wanna do. I know people whove done it and its pretty dangerous unless ur looking for a fight.
@@defcon3security782 Sadly I did it for over a year.
@@3ofus135 exactly what I should of done.
Some like to be unarmed because its less stressful not having to worry about having your gun taken or possibly take a life. Especially in a safe environment like a desk guard. Also saves a lot of money not having to pay for requals, license fees, training, etc. I prefer armed because I want the ability to protect others and myself of course. Active shooters are unfortunately more common than ever. Crime in general. Id at least carry concealed. Or if its a sterile environment then at least less lethal.
You absolutely make a point I like armed only because I know I can keep myself safe I hate being unarmed you feel so vulnerable unless I'm watching cameras all day long and the risk factor is almost zero
Wow, thank you for breaking everything down! Yeah, financially that's crazy the maintenance of a gun... I think I rather have a CCW lol. Don't gotta deal with all of that aha.
Well some time has passed and honestly my view of this has changed when I made the video back in the day I was making 19 an hour now that I make between 30 and 45 an hour I have to say going armed is the best way to go
@@defcon3security782 Yeah unless you do code enforcement thats unarmed and pays around $60k a year.
It's only worth it with the right company and I can't understand why people work security without being armed.
You absolutely right brother since I made that video it's been quite some time being armed is definitely worth it but it's only worth it if it's your own company
It really depends on what state you are getting your gun license from. For example Illinois is more strict than Indiana when it comes to getting a gun.
California is the strictest of them all that's why becoming an armed guard in some regards can be worth it but you got to make sure you know your worth know your value and get paid appropriately
@@defcon3security782 absolutely.
Illinois 2 years later...hold my beer.
If you had to do it all over again; would you be an armed guard?
I'd like to do a follow-up video that's probably one of the next videos I'm going to do once I update folks on what's been going on in my life but there is a lot of money in being an armed guard so I wouldn't change anything right now I don't work for less than 35 to 42 bucks an hour and at times I've even made more my job is really simple I have a very easy post and I get to control my own environment since I am a higher rank in my company I don't do this get paid by salary nonsense because they can make you work a ton of hours for nothing so I work by the hour I get paid good full benefits you can email me if you really curious what job I have but there's no way I can talk about it in a TH-cam video
Yes buddy I think you have to go straight and I think yes it's hr. People the reason getting a security job may be easy is because it a risk not worth taking
I couldn't agree more This is the point I try to drive to people
What does the range qualification entail?
Hitting the broad side of a barn twice at 10 feet.😂🤣😂 I don't actually know. 🤔
I was a commissioned officer in TX for 10 years or so and honestly knowing what I know now I would only use it as stepping stone. I was also one of the lucky ones making decent money an being a MSGT and OIC. The bull shit you have to deal with is not worth the money an time you will put in. If you want to work every holiday plus extremely long hours then go for it but I don’t recommend it. All the good officers I knew an still know left that stuff behind including myself but this is just my opinion guys.
Absolutely right ..