Psion Series 5: the BEST portable computer? 1997 RETRO REVIEW!

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  • Was the Psion Series 5 from 1997 the best portable computer? A peerless palmtop!
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    #psion #series5 #retro

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  • @DinoBytes
    @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Was the Psion Series 5 from 1997 the best portable computer? A peerless palmtop!
    Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs
    Gordon's In Camera book at Amazon: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ
    Psion and EPOC software
    www.ericlindsay.com/epoc/msis5.htm (how to install SIS files)
    neuon.com/downloads/ (Asteroids and more!)
    www.rmrsoft.com/epoc/index.htm (Reversi and more!)
    stevelitchfield.com/downloads.htm
    Image attribution via Creative Commons. Many thanks to the following archives and historians:
    Centre for Computing History: www.computinghistory.org.uk
    Sinclair QL photo: EWX
    Psion Organiser: Felix Winkelnkemper
    Psion Series 3: snowmanradio
    #psion #series5 #retro

    • @JanBinnendijk
      @JanBinnendijk ปีที่แล้ว

      Was it?.. well.. "Back in the day" round 2000 i used mine every day.. Agenda, Mail (because i had a phone with infrared) Internet.. wherever..
      I used it when doing maintenance on my motorbike, Valve adjustment.. i measured the valve clearance beforehand, entered that in a Spreadsheet, then took out the adjustmentshims, measured those, and also entered them in the same spreadsheet, and at the bottom came a table with the new thicknesses of the Adjustmentshims, i then went inside, Hooked my Series 5 to my PC, printed the spreadsheet and took it to a motorcycle store as a shopping list.
      Also.. i used it to write articles for a model railroad magazine at the time.
      I wrote some small programs for work, to help me program a CNC machine, i had a Database with all my ModelRailroad models, so i could look up quick if i already had one when i spotted something nice at a fair..
      Mailing a girlfriend when in a car.. imagine that in 2003, (there was a trafficjam, so i wasn't driving and writing a mail at the same time).
      I live in the Netherlands, but once while on vacation i sent email from Italy, i had my mother make me a soft pouch for it soi could take it with me on my motorbike.
      I just never left home without it.
      It was just WAY ahead of its time

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JanBinnendijk great memories, you really were a power user! I remember using mine with an IR phone, an Ericsson 888 maybe?, and absolutely loving it! I

  • @LE672AJ
    @LE672AJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The layout of that world clock screen is loads better than most of the standard smartphone clock apps that you see today. Very intuitive.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It did look really good!

  • @ziginox
    @ziginox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Being a Palm user for the longest time, until Android *finally* displaced it, I can say that the screen is absolutely beautiful compared to most of the devices I had...

    • @davidwalker1652
      @davidwalker1652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought a Palm after years of using Psions. Everything about It was like stepping backwards 15 years. I was shocked at how basic they were.

  • @dakilen
    @dakilen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What a blast from the past! Thank you for starting up Dino Bytes, I love this type of content!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're very welcome, glad you liked it!

  • @MichaelGerrard
    @MichaelGerrard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks Gordon! I still have my Psion 5 and it works too. I also was wowed by it back in the day, it has a touch screen! The keyboard was and still is the best. How it slides out is beautiful engineering. Why don't they do this today?

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe it was.a patent, maybe it was the issue with the screen cable breaking! But I agree, I still love that mechanism!

  • @misterdaz1018
    @misterdaz1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Towards the end of my first year of Uni in 1999 I saw this in Currys and I fell in love with it. I think the price was £250, I asked my parents for the money and I used it to not only write some of my papers on but I kept a diary and I the drawing program actually got me started down the road of what I call CAD-Art.

  • @itfarm
    @itfarm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Gordon. I still have my Psion Series 5mx (the upgrade from the original Psion Series 5). I still use it today. I wish someone rebuilt this device exactly the way it is with the Epoc32 OS but with added WiFi, Bluetooth and possibly a Sim Card.
    Planet Computers is trying but not quite there yet. I have the Cosmo Computer as well, but I wish it looked and behaved more like the Psion than just using its keyboard on an Android phone.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, there's a lot of stuff working well together on the Series 5 that hasn't quite been replicated again successfully...

  • @bjjblackbelttodd
    @bjjblackbelttodd 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you still have that article you wrote from Sept. 1997. Would love to read your original review.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have a copy of that issue on CD as PDFs - again the review was written by Paul Wardly, but I used my own Series 5 to write a lot of articles for the magazine!

  • @Ozpeter
    @Ozpeter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mine is still working - it's on my desk all the time. These days it chiefly reminds me of birthdays, that's all.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's an important task!

  • @ArumesYT
    @ArumesYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another nice trip down memory lane. I had the 3c, 5 MX, and 7. And I still use a small bluetooth keyboard for my smartphone when I need to type longer texts or have a lot of chat activity. I think this also answers your question at 11:40. There are no similar devices around because we don't need them anymore. I love having a separate keyboard that I don't have to carry around all day when I don't use it. A smartphone with a separate keyboard is far superior to the 5 series and similar clamshells.
    The 5MX was also the first portable computer I used as an e-reader. I read entire books on that screen. One of the few times in my life when I was ahead of my time. ;-)

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a nice collection you had!

  • @ArumesYT
    @ArumesYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:50 You might want to point out that LCD screens degrade over time. It may be very low contrast now, but it was much clearer 20 years ago.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a very good point, although I do remember it being low contrast when it came out. Hard to recall exactly though without seeing an unused model side by side.

  • @IntoxicatedDriver
    @IntoxicatedDriver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still own one of these devices, functional. These were very enjoyable during consultancy times, when being abroad for weeks or months, packing light. I'm also sure that I was able to secure contracts by being able to produce and show code I've been working on within seconds, showing whether and how much required skills were covered by prior activities. It also doubled as navigation device, showing map and calculating routes, with an external GPS receiver connected. During my spare time, I was writing an incremental compiler and interactive interpreter for it, all typed in on the device. It accompanied me during my bicycle tours, and was usually well attached to my belt in a protective sleeve. The grey skin used as finish, possibly some varnish kind of layer, came off by intensive handling, and it's now dark plastic cover only.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment! I agree, the ability to always have it on you, immediately accessible with quick power up could be invaluable.

  • @mikehibbett3301
    @mikehibbett3301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I totally agree. I used to write my business trip reports on the plane coming back to the UK from Asia back in the early 90's on a 3a, but loved the 5. The battery life was amazing.

  • @m1k3e
    @m1k3e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I picked one of these up off eBay in 2010 and kept it around for note taking for a while. Really hard to beat the ergonomics. I think some of the people responsible for this device went on to found Planet Computers and develop the Gemini PDA which has nearly the exact keyboard.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes that's right, although it doesn't slide out anymore, perhaps for reliability reasons. I show the Gemini near the end.

    • @m1k3e
      @m1k3e 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes ahhh I didn’t catch that part at the end. Great video as always 👍

  • @oliverlison
    @oliverlison 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have had one. The best British device ever. A shame that it did not survive.

  • @CZpersi
    @CZpersi ปีที่แล้ว

    Planet computers, which made the Genini PDA, was founded by former Psion employees.

  • @Calvarydima
    @Calvarydima ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did android killed Symbian ?
    The Symbian OS could have developed incredibly .
    While iOS is the best user friendly
    Android is versatile
    It both is hungry for processing resources and thus requiring bigger battery

  • @WhatALoadOfTosca
    @WhatALoadOfTosca ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 3, 3a, 3c, 5 and 5mx. They were great. I was really surprised when I got a Revo, it was piece of absolute cr...

  • @amigachris
    @amigachris 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ended up going back to my 3a, just didn't get on with it, or the screen...

  • @LiveLoveLaugh102310
    @LiveLoveLaugh102310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome tech back in the day. We've come so far innovation wise but touch screen in 1997 was a pretty advance tech for it's time.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely. Hope you get a chance to watch some of my other videos here!

  • @hyau512
    @hyau512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, great review! I'm more used to seeing your name in the context of the excellent Cameralabs website and forgot that you used to write for PCW - even though I bought it every month! I too loved writing working on my Psion 5mx in places like coffee shops, before laptops were a common sight. When my 5mx broke (weak screen ribbon cable) I looked in vain for alternatives and would have jumped at an updated model. Many years later we now have the Planet Gemini with its Psion-like form factor and cool new hardware. Unfortunately, it has arrived too late for me as I don't think its screen size is going to be compatible with my aging eyesight. Instead, I have to settle with a big boring iPad and keyboard for my coffee shop companion.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks and always a delight to hear from former PCW readers! I hope you're also enjoying my old camera reviews, as I'm trying to include the original PCW pages in there too! The iPad with a keyboard is a nice solution, but still so large compared to some of these PDAs - you really could pop a series 5 into a jacket or even some trouser pockets - no bag required. I miss them!

  • @cloudstrife1983
    @cloudstrife1983 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw these in Argos catalogue back in the 90s.
    Really wanted 1 but was too expensive as a kid to afford.

  • @JopeSane
    @JopeSane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    some while ago I bought this for like 2 euros. Ended up selling it for 100 but I kinda regret as it was such a fascinating device. The keyboard was magnificent when comparing to other devices of the time. I have actually ordered Planet's Astro Slide which has very similiar keyboard (as it has lot of same people working there) so waiting to see how good that is.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let us know how the new device compares!

  • @vintagemoderncomputing
    @vintagemoderncomputing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The interference you're hearing on the recording is the backlight, Psion backlights are extremely loud. In a quiet room you can here them a mile away.

  • @UdoKrawallo
    @UdoKrawallo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice retro review! I got interested in Psion PDAs a while back. Got some for little money on ebay to collect, but back in these days I wasn´t exactly in the user class for them(too young and of course no money 😁). So it´s interesting to see the view of someone who used such a device back then. I like the minimalistic approach, would even be good for today, like writing in a university lecture. My first own PDA which I used was the Acer N10, which I used for streaming music on the schools WLAN with a CF WLAN card in 2004. But that device was already more of the form factor of todays smartphones. I´m not really such a big fan of smartphones tbh - unless it´s something like the Blackberry Priv. I value a real keyboard over looks and power. Of course it´s not as good as from such a Psion device. I got a kind of cheaper clone of the 5 series, the Oregon Osaris. They keyboard is quite lackluster in comparison, although thanks to the more conservative design it shouldn´t have an issue with breaking display cables.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed the review! Keyboards forever!

  • @-simon-6551
    @-simon-6551 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the Psion 5 and the much better 5mx. Then I tried the Psion Revo which was a smaller version of this. It was awful! I did my teaching degree work on the Psion 5! Amazing keyboard. Great video with fab memories. Thanks.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @manhattason
    @manhattason ปีที่แล้ว

    Psion was the bomb! A true English classic! So beautiful also! I miss it.

  • @MisterAshbrook
    @MisterAshbrook 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great trip down memory lane, thanks.
    I had quite a few 5mx handhelds - made a bit of pocket money repairing the screen cables and selling them on. My own personal one I had until about 2004, and it saw me through the first couple years of my degree study at the time. Many an assignment was typed into it on the train or at lunchtimes at work.
    Can’t imagine doing that now with a touchscreen device.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly, I hate typing anything more than a quick hello on my phone or tablet.

  • @georgehiphopforever
    @georgehiphopforever หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had this and unfortunately stolen from our house before some years.I thing this is the most important revolutionary device that ever created and it was my first "PC".Sad that they stopped production.(Gemini just VERY EXPENSIVE,you can buy just a tablet from 40$ today).

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry to hear you lost yours.

  • @tyler0rsak
    @tyler0rsak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've wanted a more modern version of this for years now. Would love something small like this designed solely for writing or note taking would be so much fun

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agreed!

    • @DthBakesh
      @DthBakesh ปีที่แล้ว

      Gemini PDA probably would be what are you looking for

  • @loncsoslompos610
    @loncsoslompos610 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Psion 5 was a truly revolutionary miracle.
    And an extreme rarity in those years: on some version Hungarian accented letters were painted on the keyboard (I am Hungarian).
    I have a few that work and a few that fail (flexi cable, of course).
    I'm afraid to open working devices :)
    The ribbon cable, on the other hand, is poorly designed garbage.
    Designers did not want it to work for more than 2-3 years?

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I honestly think most of these were not expected to be used for more than a few years.

  • @Josh101
    @Josh101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is cool. I had a series 3a. Wish I'd kept it.

  • @PawFromTheBroons
    @PawFromTheBroons 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've lusted an unbelievable amount after this piece of tech.
    It was so perfect, at the time.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's still nice today too!

  • @F-o-s-s-e
    @F-o-s-s-e 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recall writing java code on that keyboard on a train in the late 90s, combine it with an irda mobile phone with a modem and your living in the future at 9600baud (thats about 1k/sec for your kiddies ;) Wish I still had my psions.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Coincidentally, Retro Recipes has just made a video about the old Ericsson R520 phone, which is what I used to connect to the internet with the Series 5!

  • @RichardStansfield
    @RichardStansfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just dug out my series 3a from the back of a draw. Forgotten all about it. The keyboard is tiny compared to your series 5

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, the 3a was small! I'll make a video about it in the future when I get a decent one...

  • @spacetime8432
    @spacetime8432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sehr schön. Ich war damals auch "verliebt" in dieses Gerät.

  • @nickback6294
    @nickback6294 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still have mine, not because I still use it, more I can't bring myself to get rid of it (still works fine). The keyboard is just big enough to touch type on amazingly enough for such a small device.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree, there's nothing like it

  • @ThatGamingGuyfromthe70s
    @ThatGamingGuyfromthe70s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never seen one of these before. A great design and wonderful piece of tech history. Shame they never managed to maintain development of the years.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to have shared it with you! It was a real classic...

  • @iantellam9970
    @iantellam9970 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think people want a mini keyboard on a device any more. Out of curiosity I did a typing test on my iPhone the other day and was hitting similar speeds as on my full sized mechanical keyboard (about 80wpm). Obviously the autocorrect is a massive assist there, but once you adjust it's actually pretty easy to type long form on a touchscreen keyboard - and I've drafted many documents this way. Certainly I don't think I could get anywhere near as quick prodding away at this little thing, lovely as the hardware design is.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear you, but I personally still prefer a mechanical / moving keyboard. I realise I'm in the minority!

  • @tombergman4506
    @tombergman4506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid.! Can remember connecting a Garmin Gps with It and navigating through France, Spain and even Barcelona
    Please re-review the Atari Portfolio

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! I remember the ability to connect a GPS! Yes, an Atari Portfolio would be fun to look at again, infamous for the ATM theft in Terminator 2!

  • @andresvaldevit3692
    @andresvaldevit3692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn I remember this. As soon as saw it I thought to my self that this thing schooled GDP. How many iterations did they try untill they made a half decent keyboard??? Look at this thing, that keyboard looks inviting AF!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is surprisingly good and a huge step forward from the Series 3

  • @AdamJRichardson
    @AdamJRichardson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still have my 3a and Series 7, love them. Did buy a 5mx in period but I returned it as I just couldn't deal with the dim screen. Otherwise a fantastic device. The external voice memo buttons are something I would love to see on a modern phone. I've toyed with trying to use the 7 as a small note taking device, but have been stumped by getting stuff off it as you described, and just file compatibility.
    I used to love playing Horace goes Skiing on my Spectrum, never knew it was Psion that created it!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Psion did a lot for Sinclair and especially the Spectrum...

    • @phjmez
      @phjmez ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the 3 have a brighter screen than th 5?

  • @neli5p
    @neli5p 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had them all … psion3, psion5, palmpilot (in colour too!), Compaq ipaq … yes … they beat Apple to the ‘i’ !

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I remember reviewing the iPAQ! I loved all these pocket computers and miss them in today's laptop and smartphone dominated market.

  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one and was damn proud of it.

  • @wenkeli1409
    @wenkeli1409 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had the Diamond mako. I used it so much in high school and college. Really nice keyboard and formfactor. Really fond memories of that thing.

  • @frstesiste7670
    @frstesiste7670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! I travelled a lot in the nineties and always wanted a PDA with Psion keyboard, but the HP 200LX offered basic PC compatibility and to me that was even more important. The HP was a great product, but sadly disappeared (assume stolen) on a trip. Got a Compaq Windows CE PDA later, but battery life was horrible compared to the HP 200LX or a Psion. Then I switched to an iPaq. Color screen, but even worse battery, and no keyboard. Then smartphones with keyboards appeared and I had an Ericsson and a HTC before keyboards disappeared completely. I look for devices with keyboards every time I switch phone and I'd get one in an instance if one of the major brands with Android offered something.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember reviewing the HP LX models!

    • @frstesiste7670
      @frstesiste7670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I used to read the reviews. PCW and Byte were my favorite computer magazines.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frstesiste7670 excellent taste! The two oldest computer magazines, launching in 77 and 78 as I recall.

  • @briankane6547
    @briankane6547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WaHEY!!!! I've just unearthed mine. I can 100% guarantee it's WELL over 5 yr since it saw daylight.
    Two VERY ill Hyundai AAs in it dead but NO fatal corrosion. NO idea what shape the CR 2032 is except not corroded.
    :¬)

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 2032 will almost certainly be dead too, so replace them all and keep your finger's crossed!

    • @briankane6547
      @briankane6547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes I did.
      ;¬)

  • @stoikerty
    @stoikerty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember going into a tech store as a kid and asking about the price for this amazing mini computer. In fact that's all I ever did... going into the shop asking to see the device and asking about the price. Hell no I couldn't afford it, but I admired it from the distance, thinking of how much I'd love putting all my important meetings into the calendar LOL
    10 years later for about 100€ I bought a box full of old Pocket PC's and discovered the Series 5 again as well as the Series 3c... these machines are beautiful indeed.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's so much fun to revisit them! I spent my childhood going into shops, asking to look, then leaving!

  • @WhatALoadOfTosca
    @WhatALoadOfTosca ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved my Psion's. I used to write shareware for these as a kid and made a fortune. Good times.

  • @thatchanguy
    @thatchanguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a Sharp Wizard- the poor student's Psion...

  • @alexdinca6651
    @alexdinca6651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please help me i have one.but i dont know how to install the OS on the card :( please make a video and save me

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've linked to some guides in the description

  • @alpachino468
    @alpachino468 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a teenager when this was released and wanted one so badly, but could never afford one 😔

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But now you could pick one up at a bargain price!

  • @LesFieldPhotos
    @LesFieldPhotos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great bit of kit. I wrote an instruction manual for the software company I work for on one of those whilst traveling back and forth from the states 1997. When I got my yearly bonus I upgraded to a Nokia 9110 communicator and a Toshiba Libretto - full windows 98 colour VGA laptop in your pocket.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember reviewing both the Nokia and the Libretto. Would love a Libretto or similar small Windows laptop now...

  • @UXXV
    @UXXV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found you via DPReview today. What years did you work at PCW ? 😁

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you found me! I worked full-time at PCW between 1992 and 1999, then freelanced for them and others until I started Cameralabs in 2006. Were you a reader?

    • @UXXV
      @UXXV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes oh! Yes I was indeed. Got my first pc in 91 when I was in school and PCW was my number 1 choice followed by PC Plus then Computer Shopper and downwards through What PC, PC Pro when it arrived and PC Format. 😁

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UXXV thanks, correct order of magazines there!

  • @MistahMatzah
    @MistahMatzah 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still have and use an Ericsson branded Series 5. I considered the Planet Gemini but it just didn't tick the right boxes for me. I'm working on building a Psion Sidecar, which will let me access Wifi over the serial port - should be weird!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice!

    • @brianlj
      @brianlj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used to use my 5's infra red to link to my Ericsson SH888 phone. Instant internet!
      I also had an HP printer (360c?) which accepted an HP infra red receiver plugged into the parallel port. Instant printing!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brianlj I remember testing this with the SH888 for PCW magazine over IR - it was very cool!

  • @jamesdecross1035
    @jamesdecross1035 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still got my Ericsson MC-218 (same thing, rebadged). I wonder what to do with it!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      First see if it's working, then try some of the apps!

    • @jamesdecross1035
      @jamesdecross1035 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes Good news - it works just fine!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesdecross1035 excellent! Now try downloading and installing some new software for it like I did!

  • @1monki
    @1monki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epoc was the most stable OS I've ever used. Nothing crashed that thing. Another thing about these devices, while it did have a touch screen, they could be operated with the keyboard only. There was a "menu" button and menu items were navigated with the arrow keys.

    • @WhatALoadOfTosca
      @WhatALoadOfTosca ปีที่แล้ว

      The menu interface also demanded that each menu item had a shortcut key too

  • @viktoraberg
    @viktoraberg ปีที่แล้ว

    oh man the nostalgia! my dad had one of these and I must have been like 8 when I played games on it. i swear there was a first-person tank game, and also some kind of platforming game called exodus, but i can't find anything about it on the internet...

    • @viktoraberg
      @viktoraberg ปีที่แล้ว

      well NEVER MIND! i somehow happened to google the correct things and i found it!!! turns out it was a psion revo and not series 5. the games were called space exodus and terra force. now i have to figure out how i could emulate these things...

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@viktoraberg don't emulate them, try to play on original hardware!!

    • @viktoraberg
      @viktoraberg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes I'll try to!!

  • @briankane6547
    @briankane6547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ALL I needed to know EXCEPT how to switch it off.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't the Off function on the escape key, top left? or just close the lid.

    • @briankane6547
      @briankane6547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes That key is labelled Esc/On/Off; 1st two work. Holding Off for 15 secs -no worky - BUT:-
      Fn+Off = does.

  • @reekooism
    @reekooism 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think we can install a Linux on it?

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can, I'm sure someone has!

  • @TheBasementChannel
    @TheBasementChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too fancy, I’ll stick with my Psion Organiser

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Old skool, I like it

  • @burnzy3210
    @burnzy3210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    palmtops are so cool :)

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is / was your favourite?

    • @burnzy3210
      @burnzy3210 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes i had one very briefly as pure novelty, made by HP IIRC

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@burnzy3210 I reviewed many HP PDAs - I recall the Jornada was pretty good! I also show one of the early HP models at the end of the video.

  • @zacredacted2137
    @zacredacted2137 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool Gordon. I was only 10 when something like this would have been sold, but I lovvveeddd stuff like this when I was a kid (of course I could never buy any of it). I didn't know you had OG PC roots--that is really awesome! I hope your new channel takes off!!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Zac, yep, I've been reviewing this stuff since 1992!

  • @jasoncousins8689
    @jasoncousins8689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found mine fully boxed in the garage. Then found this review.
    Amazing.
    Had mine given to me by a family member while I was still at school but never really used it.
    Mine is mint and still works, batteries had not leaked surprisingly 😁

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent! If the batteries haven't leaked, it's a sign you must start to use it! Hope you have fun with it!

  • @MohammedMohammed-iy5vw
    @MohammedMohammed-iy5vw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have it and it still works

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you still use it?

  • @adamran7533
    @adamran7533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Gordon I own a 5MX, I have a question for you, where the screens really that bad back when they were new? Also the device you show at the end from planet computer is actually made by the same people who made the psion

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a really difficult question to answer. I originally reviewed brand new models back in the day and didn't think the screens were bad but was that because they were ok compared to others of the time or because they were somehow fresher / less worn out than a model that's 25 years old? I couldn't say unless I had a brand new one! Likewise for the Gameboy Advance I reviewed here... Looking back, I remember the screen not being amazing on the 5, but again I don't know if mine has deteriorated over time or not... what do you think?

  • @rosshilton
    @rosshilton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    had one in 97 and loved it. Carried it all over Asia for work and it worked really well. Used it in hotel rooms, in aircraft and mainly in meetings where most people didn't even see that I was reading notes during discussions. I would just slip it out of my jacket pocket and open it.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still miss the form factor..

  • @MrRes999
    @MrRes999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i always wanted one of these. i loved PDAs. but i couldn’t afford one when at school. i later got a Casio EM500 which could run game boy emulators and doom. i love this new channel.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Loads of fun stuff to come!

  • @michaelsimeone7158
    @michaelsimeone7158 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gordon just found your channel and i have been thinking of leaving my dlsr's in my house and go mirrorless and after watching your 6 reason i would like to know what do you think the best camera and lens combo to start ? I shoot nikon now ....

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Michael, glad you found me! That's a question best asked on one of my camera labs videos, as this channel is all about vintage tech! But for starters, check out my guide here for some ideas: www.cameralabs.com/best-mirrorless/

  • @964tractorboy
    @964tractorboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very good reminder of times past. I loved my Series 3a; right up to the point that the hinge failed. I'm sure that was a common failure as I'm very easy on my tech. Could have done with reading that article on whether to upgrade to the 5! Probably too late now...

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's never too late!

  • @jonaslukosevicius9233
    @jonaslukosevicius9233 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think this is worth getting as an offline writing device in 2022?

    • @jonaslukosevicius9233
      @jonaslukosevicius9233 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does it have spellcheck?

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure about a spellcheck, but I still enjoy the form factor. There's very few actual keyboards this small anymore. If you find a good price, go for it!

    • @jonaslukosevicius9233
      @jonaslukosevicius9233 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you

  • @SeanyGee1
    @SeanyGee1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Gordon, always enjoy your reviews, a quick question if i may? I'm picking one up tomorrow solely for word processing, i'm finding it difficult to find an answer online so will ask you, is it fairly easy to transfer files using yhe CF card? I've read they need to be FAT16 and have plenty of 1gig cards knocking about but does Windows or Apple OS have any trouble importing the files? Many thanks.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you like the videos! It's been a while since I did this, but as I recall, you can export word processor documents as text files from the File menu, and save them onto a CF card. This can then be opened on a PC or Mac using a CF card reader and any WP application. You're right that the type and size of CF card can be a problem. All I can say is the only one I had that still worked ok was a SanDisk Ultra II 1GB card - coincidentally it's the only card that works on some really old cameras too, so it's handy to have! Good luck! PS - don't even bother with the serial cable and software unless you have a PC and OS of the same era.

    • @SeanyGee1
      @SeanyGee1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for the reply, that sounds ideal, I think I have that same card from my Canon 7D days so fingers crossed everything will work nicely. Thank you again for the reply it's greatly appreciated.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SeanyGee1 let me know how you get on!

    • @SeanyGee1
      @SeanyGee1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes Love it, best thing ever, absolutely genius.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SeanyGee1 great stuff!

  • @kiewas
    @kiewas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I hope you enjoy my other videos too if you get the chance!

  • @lim2001burger
    @lim2001burger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve still got mine! Picked it up at a pawn shop - except it was the German version

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you switch the language to English?

  • @ianj3845
    @ianj3845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn’t run to a Psion 5 but I had a 3c. Absolutely loved it. It had features that I still miss on my iPhone. Thanks for this video, happy memories!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're very welcome, I will do the 3 as well in the future...

  • @cameraprepper7938
    @cameraprepper7938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wished for this Psion computer, but it was just too expensive to have as an extra computer.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could buy it now for about 20 bucks!

    • @cameraprepper7938
      @cameraprepper7938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes LOL, yes but now I have a much more powerful smartphone.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cameraprepper7938 sure, but does it have a tiny fold out mechanical keyboard...?!

    • @cameraprepper7938
      @cameraprepper7938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes No, I wish for a smartphone with fold out keyboard and a 1" or MTF Camera, OR a Camera with fold out keybord with a built in phone !

  • @AliasMrHackenbacker
    @AliasMrHackenbacker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally agree with you. I still have my Psion 5 and Psion Revo. My Revo was the device I had on me at All times together with my Nokia 8210. The 8210 had an infra red modem built in so I used to pair it with the Revo to send documents. At the time I was self employed IT technician and used to keep a copy of my CV on the Revo ready to send to agencies for various jobs. I had a number of technical documents stored on the device, an email client and a few games. Somewhere I have the travel modem but it did not work as well as the IR modem and Nokia 8210. I did migrate to a HP Ipaq other than having the abilities to play mp3 files it wasn't as good as the Psions.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember reviewing that Nokia and finding it one of the most exciting things I'd ever seen!

    • @AliasMrHackenbacker
      @AliasMrHackenbacker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes I still have it in my old tech drawer. A red one complete in a red “leather” case. I used to get an upfront bundle from Cellnet/o2.

  • @xmlthegreat
    @xmlthegreat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's like we had a near perfect form factor for productivity and simply evolving this device to the modern day would have be incredibly useful. Heck I think people who need to type a lot can get most of their work done on it if we perfected the keyboard feel.

  • @jimsjourney3926
    @jimsjourney3926 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely review and smiled all the way through it, it was and is indeed a fantastic piece of technology. Mines still boxed in the loft and really must have a play again soon thank you!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I hope I've inspired you to dig it out and fire it up!

  • @calvinchann1996
    @calvinchann1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kick myself for not buying one at the time. I did use the Organiser ant the Series 3.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet you can find them on eBay

    • @calvinchann1996
      @calvinchann1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes Will I have more luck than with the Canon PowerShot Pro1? 😀

    • @calvinchann1996
      @calvinchann1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually quite a few, though most have not survived the aging very well, especially on the surface finish. Though there are 2 unused ones for £300! All in the UK though which is a horrendous customs issue where I am in the EU. Some Series 7's as well.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calvinchann1996 one will turn up, don't worry!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@calvinchann1996 hopefully!

  • @SteveMorton
    @SteveMorton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have two Psion 5mx's they are an excellent machine. It's just a shame that they lack modern connectivity. But that aside I still use CF cards to get data and apps on and off the machine. The battery life is excellent.
    The closest I've got to a similar experience is an iPad Mini and keyboard, but I can't get that in my pocket! Alternatively my iPhone and a bluetooth keyboard. The Planet Computers version on Android looks ok, but I'm an Apple user through out so I'm not comfortable or know how to get my data to flow back and forth easily.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly, the iPad and magic keyboard are lovely, but as big as a small laptop!

    • @SteveMorton
      @SteveMorton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes I have seen a project on the web to make a bluetooth modem for the Psion5Mx. There are also versions of Linux that run on a Psion, but I've never tried them, even though I have a spare machine. I do find reading the screen harder these days compared to when I bought it...younger eyes!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SteveMorton a modem would be cool, but not sure about the browser and email software...

  • @MyHumanWreckage
    @MyHumanWreckage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally forgot about these. Very interesting video. I look forward to more.

  • @admiralandersen
    @admiralandersen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a couple of 5MXs and a Series 7. Both 5MXs screens are broken, but I still use my Series 7 :-)

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember the 7, that was the laptop sized one, right?

    • @admiralandersen
      @admiralandersen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes It was smaller. Netbook size.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@admiralandersen yes, I remember it now.

  • @johnhaynes9910
    @johnhaynes9910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent, in the late 90's early 2,000s I was going backwards and forwards to the USA a lot and used one of these all the time on flights, far easier to use on aircraft and would outlast my laptop with its battery life ! Only downside was the rather dim screen but it was a brilliant tool, I was sorry that Psion stopped making these but they saw the mobile phone as the 'future' and decided not to go there ! Thanks for this Gordon :)

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very welcome! It's interesting this form factor has virtually disappeared. I have a small laptop, but it's not fitting in my pocket, and anything that does has a terrible typing experience.

    • @johnhaynes9910
      @johnhaynes9910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes Absolutely spot on, the thing that really made it was that keyboard which despite its dimiutive size was totally workable. Over 7 hour flights I used to type up reports on it, save them to a CF card and transfer them to my laptop to email them on, worked for me !

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnhaynes9910 me too!

  • @darrenhayward8448
    @darrenhayward8448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked for an electrical retailer in the 90’s and I remember these. I had the organiser myself. A blast from the past

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully a pleasant blast from the past!

    • @darrenhayward8448
      @darrenhayward8448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes it seems a long time ago Gordon. I’m looking forward to your next installment👍

  • @andrewwilkin1923
    @andrewwilkin1923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Gordon, has a Psion 3 back in the day. It was a great PDA. Connectivity was never a problem as I used it stand-alone.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm looking forward to covering the Series 3 in a future video! Was there any additional software you used for it?

    • @andrewwilkin1923
      @andrewwilkin1923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes I don't think so, it's such a long time ago. It had all the basics if I remember right.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewwilkin1923 yeah, the basic office suites were pretty good, but I enjoyed trying out some new software on the 5.

  • @MrRhar75
    @MrRhar75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    way ahead of it's time, like you say, you can't write reviewes on a smart phone, the keyboard is brilliant.

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! Even revisiting it today, I was struck how there's nothing to replace it really. I switched to a full size laptop which is great but hardly as portable.

    • @geoffriemckenna4749
      @geoffriemckenna4749 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes just get a little Bluetooth keyboard and connect it to your smart phone get with the times

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geoffriemckenna4749 I've tried that and it works BUT to keep your phone angled you ideally need to bring a stand for it which all begins to add to the overall size. I made a video about it here: th-cam.com/video/q1NmJj7kkm4/w-d-xo.html

  • @cosssio
    @cosssio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one during the last 2 years of University and loved it!!! Fitted on my rear pocket and the keyboard was soooo cathartic to use 😃

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! Did you write much on it?

    • @cosssio
      @cosssio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes Yes... Back in those days Laptops were still above 90% of students reach (not to mention still very bulky), so this was an excellent option for me... All the notes from class could later be transferred to my PC and quickly used for reports or assignments, making my life easier 👍

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cosssio good point on the price. I came at it from a portability angle as I was working for a PC magazine and had access to laptops, but for sure they were way more expensive. I do miss the palmtop form factor.

  • @markdjharris
    @markdjharris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for vid, I went thru a phase of collecting Psions about 15 years ago but sold them all a while after. Wish I hadn't got rid of mine. One thing that always confused me - the 5mx keyboard was legendary yet mine was v stiff and not that easy to type on tbh. I now have a Planet Computers gemini and the keyboard is as nice as I imagined 5mx to be. Perhaps I had a duff model? I've never heard of such a thing mind

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm very curious about the Gemini, do you like yours?

    • @markdjharris
      @markdjharris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes hardware lovely, the keyboard is brilliant and the screen is basically a modern touchscreen phone...its the s/ware that puts me off. Android 7 is way out of date for safe, proper online activity and I fear even if I were to keep it offline it would eventually start to slow down and things will break . Unlike psion which will remain fresh as the day it was released

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markdjharris ah, I see, why don't they update the software?

    • @markdjharris
      @markdjharris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes not in the interest of Planet to allocate resources to a product developed 3 yrs ago, they can barely QC their new products. Sailfish would have been an option but no android layer and zero native office apps. Linux development stalled as such niche old product. Sad really. I'll use until I can't but might just get another 5mx!

  • @thehobnob
    @thehobnob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a coincidence, I fired up my Series 5 today for the first time in years :D
    Great video!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did it work? Presumably you'd need a new backup battery... do you think you'll use it much?

    • @thehobnob
      @thehobnob 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DinoBytes It powers up but I'm not sure if the CF slot works; I only have a 32GB card which normally lives in my 7D, which is probably too large/wrong disk format for it to recognise. Might be fun to use it as a diary/jotter for a bit!

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thehobnob one of my CF cards worked, but the other didn't. I think they may need to be formatted as FAT16, although the one that worked had been formatted in an older camera.

  • @PeterAlanJohnson
    @PeterAlanJohnson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved my Series 3 in its day, had such a cool feel to it

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you still have it or use it? I'm looking forward to making a video about the 3 in the future...

    • @PeterAlanJohnson
      @PeterAlanJohnson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never sold it, and certainly haven’t used it in years, but I doubt that I still have it (although I do still have a QL, 2 MSXs and 5 or 6 old consoles in the loft from my days as a game developer)
      If it shows up, I’ll send it to you

    • @DinoBytes
      @DinoBytes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeterAlanJohnson Ah yes, the MSX! I remember that, such good times! The QL was also way ahead of its time, loved those two Microdrives!