How Roe v. Wade Came Under Attack Before | The Last Abortion Clinic (full documentary) | FRONTLINE
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- How, despite “Roe v. Wade,” anti-abortion advocates successfully led campaigns to pass multiple state laws limiting access to abortion - with efforts in Mississippi as a blueprint. (From 2005)
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In the summer of 2005, more than 30 years after Roe v. Wade established access to abortion services as a fundamental right, a FRONTLINE documentary team spent two months traveling across the South, where states had been particularly active in passing restrictions on abortion.
"The assault on abortion rights is very clever. It's very smart. And we are losing," one anonymous abortion provider said in the resulting documentary.
In interviews with abortion providers and their patients, with staff at an anti-abortion pregnancy counseling center, and with key legal strategists on both sides of the national debate, producer Raney Aronson-Rath documented the success of the anti-abortion movement and the growing number of states with regulations limiting access to abortion. The documentary traced that success back to how anti-abortion advocates seized on Planned Parenthood v. Casey - the 1992 Supreme Court decision that upheld Roe v. Wade but changed the standard by which abortion laws were judged.
“Their tactics changed,” Betty Thompson, former director of the Jackson Women’s Health Organization, Mississippi’s last abortion clinic, told FRONTLINE of the anti-abortion movement’s response to Casey. “They began to see: ‘We have political clout now. And so while we have this power, we’re going to chip away at Roe v. Wade until the law is going to be on the books, but nobody will be able to access the service.'”
The documentary explored how Mississippi was a model for the anti-abortion movement’s efforts.
“Mississippi has an impressive track record,” Clarke Forsythe, senior legal counsel for Americans United for Life, told FRONTLINE. “Our goal is to see that other states pass the type of legislation that Mississippi has passed over the past decade, and we see a lot of legislative activity.”
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I think a lot of the problems in our country would be solved if people just minded their own business
I think you’re actually right. But whether abortion is legal or not it is wrong to kill a developing child in the womb or out of the womb.
@@Featherfinder you really just said “I agree with you but not actually” lmao. Mind ya business. It’s a clump of cells.
@@brigidrode If you are still ignorant enough in 2022 to claim that “it8s just a clump of cells” then you are really working at it because science says something very different (and has for a long time). If your “just a clump” idea has to do with the inability of a pre born human to reason, or contemplate his or her existence, or communicate then I’d point out that a six month old infant can’t do any of those things either. Nor could a three year old. Etc. Shall I assume that you’d be fine with a mother putting an unwanted infant to death because he or she cannot reason, or use language, or do anything to care for himself/herself? If your position has something to do with appearances I’d point out that there are plenty of humans whose faces or bodies don’t look at all typical. Should we declare that they are “not persons” because their appearances are atypical, or even disturbing? Your position is utterly irrational. And heartless.
@@brigidrode hey, how many abortions have you had? how does that feel? i know some ladies who seriously regretted that decision
@@brigidrode Marge out here just doing the bidding of the republican party so they can cling to power and continue fucking her over. It's incredible, really.
The biggest take away was they care about the baby while in utero but after the baby is born they’ll give you a pack of pampers and a prayer and send you on your way.
But they’re the same ones yelling about public assistance and what their tax dollars are going towards. Make it make sense.
I’ve had one pregnancy and have a beautiful baby boy but I can’t imagine how life would be if we couldn’t provide for him. Talk about women’s health?!? Our mental health pre and post pregnancy is the key that is truly buried and discarded in all of this nonsense.
They're outlawing abortion during a nationwide formula shortage and voted against bills for people to access formula.
But if you conceive a life why you have the right to kill the baby before is born and also if thr baby is born, the right to not feed him and let him/her die? Your logic is twisted.
@@henriquezaguila923 No one is saying you have the right to kill a born child.
Be happy: a step toward direct democracy was made. Regardless of whether you like what was given you the power to decide upon, you now have the freedom to speak your truth and play it out democratically in each state with your fellow citizens
We had to choose mom's life over the new child, the family was saved because now both parents can provide for the 1st born miracle baby.
There's no hate like Christian love.
Yeah, this God they sure like to talk about not only caused so much death of innocent people, but also facilitate child sex abuse on a massive scale. Not only catholicim, but JW, and LDS. Which both are systemically configured to increase chances of abuse.
They have definitely killed more people over religion than any war ever waged over land.
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Its so hateful to expect a woman to show a tiny bit of responsibility? You are such a drama queen.
@@RalphieMaysGhost It's so hateful for you to comment on every thread, seeing as how you do not possess a uterus.
Its amazing that the state that is at the bottom of everything health care , education, poverty Mississippi is one of the worst state in the country and have the nerve to try and tell citizens about a very personal and private matter
Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky.... All in the 10 poorest states in the union. I wonder if they all have something in common...
@@samaguga my point exactly 💯 you are on target!!!
So by your logic they shouldn’t be trusted aborting pregnancy you ppl are ridiculous you just attack things you disagree with just because you don’t agree there’s no logic just feeling
Like the matter is t personal If you literally go looking for a stranger to do something for u
Interesting these are the poorest states supposedly, yet the cost of living is affordable and they do not have hundreds of thousands of homeless addicts sleeping on side walks amongst needles and filth like here in Seattle, the wear coast and other supposedly rich and thriving democratic cities. What a joke. Continue with your immature and prescribed notion of the southern u.s, it's rooted in a childish dichotomy fed to you by the media. Grow up.
I was made pregnant at the age of 14, by a sexually abusive Step Father who began his abuse when I was 6 , after he married my Mother. It was before there were abortion clinics in Canada, and women were dying from kitchen table abortions and do it yourself coat hanger abortions in both Canada and the USA.
I was sent to a home for unwed Mothers halfway across the country from home for my 2nd and 3rd trimesters. There were girls as young as 12 there. I gave birth at the hospital across the street from the home, and sent back to the home the next day.
For 10 days I fed my Son with a bottle, and that forms a bond…but I knew I had to give him up. I carried him into court, heard myself defined as an unwilling Mother, and a strange woman took him from me and left the court. I was unable to have another child later in my life because I was sterilized while they were “caring” for me.
The night I returned home, my Stepfather was back in my room, telling me he would get me fitted for a birth control device. I left home, and was emancipated at 15 because I threatened to tell the truth if he didn’t make it happen. It took years to emotionally heal and stop harming myself.
That is in America’s past…and it looks like you are heading for it again. Shame on those men who rally for pro-life, but have no problem putting a baby in there but take no responsibility thereafter. They have no voice in this issue. The women should just know better.🖤🇨🇦
Omg!!! My heart hurts for you. The sadness is exponential because there are hundreds of thousands of little girls suffering just like you did. It is beyond comprehension to me that ANYONE would allow a child to be permanently traumatized by an experience like this. It’s tragic enough that your mother allowed a monster into your home but that you had to endure a pregnancy on top of it makes me enraged at a system that doesn’t protect women and girls
@@bumpers17921 I am okay now, and have been Married to an amazing man for 46 years, but it took a lot of time and work to learn to love myself again so I could let someone else love me.
My Mother didn’t know what he was until much later, WWII seriously damaged a lot of people and it was more common than one would think (it still is).
I just have nothing positive to say to pro-lifers who have no understanding of the emotional cost of what they are trying to do. I knew 2 girls who killed themselves rather than admit to the shame of pregnancy out of wedlock.
It is a willful ignorance on the part of these people that causes them to feign empathy for “the possibility of life” to the point that the life that already exists is of no value.🖤🇨🇦
@@tamarrajames3590 I agree 100%. The arrogance of some of these people and their morally superior attitudes makes me so angry. This is all about controlling women, punishing women for having sex and using religion to justify it. Like you said, they don't care what happens after the baby is born. My cousin is a right wing wack job and she exists on magical thinking that "God has a plan" and "He will take care of you if you accept Jesus as your savior" bull shiz. There is no reality in that whatsoever but they are so brainwashed they can't even see it.
@@bumpers17921 I hear you, we would be a lot better off if people just stayed out of each other’s personal lives. We live on this amazing World that provides everything that ALL life needs to live and thrive…and instead of taking care of it we do our best to destroy it and any other life forms we find inconvenient. The absolute arrogance of it, and the number of wars fought for that “loving God” with a plan for each of us makes me sick. Some of “His” plans really suck if you ask me.🖤🇨🇦
Even though your story is amazing, I will take care of my baby, and i will not abandom him or her. There are just people that will do such things, and we can both agree that they are terrible.
“I was a young, poor, white woman, trying to go to college...” really? Did you really just try to say you were like some of these women who have to work 2 jobs just get by? Some of these people need a reality check.
Flood your Senator's offices with emails & phone calls & tell them to vote for the Women's Health Protection Act!
No, you need a reality check. Contraception is not 100%. You republiCONS are too busy popping out kids with your sisters in your trailer parks. You left reality, and never came back.
@JoggaStoppa™ incel
Brad forgot pull out at the dorm... give her a break MAN!
@JoggaStoppa™ Man... you just want to punish them lol. Just say that please don't pretend to have bleeding heart for a kid who is already going to be born in a situation to lose.
I’ve literally been to this *exact* clinic a couple times with different friends. These people make an already terrible soul crushing situation all that much worse. I went as support but they would yell and sing with their buggies with baby dolls and pictures of aborted fetuses at me. It was disgusting. They literally have security guards who walk you to an from the building. One of the times I went was extremely traumatic bc my friend had been raped and got pregnant. They say they’re pro-life but they couldn’t care less about the life of that child born from rape or incest. They don’t care about the lives of already poor or super young girls lives that perpetuate a cycle of poverty. These same exact people are against welfare and food stamps for the exact children they want born into this world.
Thank you. They don't care about the babies once they are born. So sad.
Every life deserves to be respected no matter the circumstance, nobody in their right mind would support rape or incest but if it happens and pregnancy follows it’s not the baby’s fault, you can put the baby up for adoption after all the government has been helping people with social security benefit and child assistance
I am so sorry you went through that. These zealots make me so upset because it's not about being pro-life, its about control of women and blindly following their quack church doctrine.
You have no idea what a woman goes through when she becomes pregnant, especially from a rape, or sexual abuse from a family member. Mind your own business, why can’t you just mind your own business. You could take care of all these unwanted babies yourself, after all you are the one wanting to decide for every woman out there. Go ahead, adopt them all! Wouldn’t that make your day, sir? Just think of all the fun you could have taking care of all the unwanted babies in the world. Born to drug addicts, who come from completely dysfunctional families. And all kinds of situations. Go ahead, do it.
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You can't say you care about children who suffer when your ok with children being killed in the womb. Especially when many people who were in foster care now live a decent and even a successful life. We don't have the right take away someone's future when we don't know for a fact they will live a miserable life. The unborn are considered not a person when infact science tells us it is a human being. So born humans can decide which humans are not a person and who has more value because it was made into law. Is that not the same belief when a black person wasn't consired a person because society decided they were less human and did not have the same value as a white person. Society again decided another group of humans are not considered a person. We repeated history living in a modern day silent holocaust. It's really not about women's rights. That's a fake cover up to what's the real motive behind it. Fact, Margret Sanger created plannedparenthood who was a eugenicist and hated black black people. What race is getting the most abortions? Black people. Abortion is the biggest genocide on the black race. This is the direct reason of why black people now make up less of the population along with, yes, the crack epidemic. Have you ever thought about how there were more black people than white during slavery before plannedparenthood was introduced? And now, very subtly and under the radar since abortion has been allowed, black people are now the minority. Unborn human babies not being considered a person is right now the biggest basic human rights issue. That fetus is a human fetus which means a young human. Humans cannot procreate animals. Would it still be ok if we could see the human fetus that has a tiny body with all it's limbs out front of us and crush it? We treat animals and plants with more value than the unborn. Just cause it's small and can't speak it's ok to crush it like a bug? No. Because it's not just a bug it's a human being.
This country is a cesspool
Exactly... Which is why abortion should be legal. There's no shortage of idiots here - we don't need anymore
These are the same people who are against the affordable care act.
LOL
You're not special or better. Give up.
And the same people that are pro-gun, anti-contraception, supported the Iraq War, and have 3 children non of which they have adopted.....
Exactly
I was for the affordable care act problem it’s not affordable 😂
Affordable care act is the true pro life but those so-called “pro life” people refused to accept this true pro life ‘affordable care act’.
Perfect timing for a re-post. No doubt that was the intent. Time to get informed. Thank you Frontline.
The pro-life movement is largely religious and anti-science. Classic case of religious beliefs breeching church/state separation.
@@jamesleighdavis138 Yup!
@@jamesleighdavis138 Help me understand, if you don’t mind, how it is that a pro-life position is anti-science. To be clear, the original Roe vs Wade movement itself hinged upon, among other things, the sciences at the time, of course. I debated once with one individual who prided their love of the sciences in the fact that science tends to “change its mind based on progressive observation”, or advances in modern science. The current argument in favor of striking Roe v Wade down indeed hinges upon modern science; the cameras, as they’re finding, see a whole lot clearer these days, yes?
And how is it that it’s a so-called classic breech of church and state?
To be clear, separation of church and state has nothing to do with keeping religious thought out of the government, but restricting the government from showing favor; assigning this religion or that to the people.
If it’s the legislation of morality with the state/government that you’re taking issue with, then your argument is already defeated.
Morality is the only thing you [can] legislate. As I said to another individual in the conversation feed; because of the dangers of human preferences, the freedom to choose [must] be legislated in order to maintain a civilized society.
No breech of church and state here.
@@dannysutherland4911 The pro-life movement is religious in the sense that they proclaim every fetus at the moment of conception has a ‘soul.’ And, more importantly, that you are in fact killing a fully developed child when you are performing an abortion. Not true. This goes against the science of what we know about fetus development. So there’s the anti-science aspect.
When an abortion is performed within the allotted time as required by existing laws, the zygote is about the size of a pea and has less neurons than a common house fly.
So, if you’ve ever swatted a fly in your lifetime you’ve visited as much suffering on the world as the properly performed abortion.
Notice the Muslims or the Jews aren’t up in arms about abortion because the Quran and Tora have different doctrine addressing when the ‘soul’ enters a fetus.
It is largely evangelical extremists Christian’s who are perpetuating this movement based on religious doctrine, misinformation, and anti-science. Since most that hold public office are indeed religious, allow their personally held superstition to influence policy and law.
How many atheists or scientist hold office? Are they allowed to? How many atheist and/or scientist pro-lifers are there? I’d love to hear that stat.
What is the science that says abortions should never be performed under any circumstances? Show me those peer reviewed papers.
@@dannysutherland4911 should they legislate Idolatry laws as well to keep a ‘civilized’ society?
How about murdering homosexuals as the Bible prescribes? Would that maintain your version of a ‘civilized’ society’?
Granted I don’t know your personal superstition, but would I be guess correctly that you beliefs fall under one of the 3,000+ denominations of Christianity?
Please correct me if I’m wrong. I would be shocked if you were an atheist, scientist, gynecologist etc.. and still hold these views
You can’t make me wear a mask, but you can force someone to have a baby they don’t want. Who are these people?
John what if your mother had said kill you, would that have been ok?
Because a baby is a life,whether you wear or don't wear a mask won't kill you and even if it does kill you,it's a choice you make for yourself.
Whether or not you want a baby doesn’t justify murder.
@@judeisnot_rude I feel sorry for you.
@@jdietzVispop I pity your soul.
“It’s very clever and we are losing”
She was right in 2005, I’d love to hear what that doctor has to say today.
"Damn, looks like we're still losing."
EndTime Nurses/Doc. No more on citizens's side
(now, license to ''kill''(ab~rtion Is not murder remember? for 40 yrs. long. Satan/Govern't own churches & doctors, will U named all of satan's spawns.
That she was on the wrong side of history. The Arc of the Moral Universe is Long, But it Bends Toward Justice.
@@adventuresinthebay8487 You don’t get too decide what constitutes as universal morality. In simpler terms: GFY.
@@adventuresinthebay8487 the wrong side of history is limiting any individual's right to freedom of choice. since you're so concerned about the unborn, hope you're donating to orphanages and other charities that help unwanted children
Everthing is beautifully summarized at 33:55. The problem with these pro-life movements is that they stop caring about the babies once they are born which is proof that it has nothing to do with saving a life and everything to do with dictating what women can and can’t do with their pregnancy based on their particular and personal situations.
Just dont get pregnant if you dont want a kid. Its actually really easy if you make an effort.
You stop caring before the babies are even born so how are you any better?
Do you expect them to take care of all these kids? Thats the mom's responsibility. Thats the point. If you dont want a baby dont get pregnant. Its pretty basic and easy to do.
@@RalphieMaysGhost If you don't want a baby don't get pregnant, but if something goes wrong and you do get pregnant, you can abort the non self aware yet baby rather than have an unwanted child that you dont wan't/can't/won't take good cafe of. There's enough childhood trauma in this world already.
@@Irisiri92 What goes wrong? Go on the pill. Use rubbers. If that fails use plan B. Its not that hard you are just pretending its a lot to ask for. And if you are soooo worried about getting pregnant dont have sex. Its that simple. Its not much to ask for.
Honestly Roe v Wade has been legal for decades and for you who have been saying that you'll adopt the unwanted babies why are their over 100,000 kids up for adoption and 23,000 kids aging out ofthe foster care system each year.Abortion isn't the issue it's you pro-lifers not giving the already born children the lives you said you would.🤷🏽♀️
Everyone who is pro life or pro choice doesn't believe ALL the dogma spouted by people on tv or on steps of Capitol buildings. 🤔 the stats you spout are what typically come from people who don't actually know what they are talking about in context of the topic. Just because the " federal law " was created doesn't mean it was GOOD. Roe was not based in good law. Are the some of the pro lifers equally nuts. Yes. The federal govt shouldn't have any decision related to your body. The states will uphold or make their own laws. Should the STATE have a say in your body? Also no, but I will take the state over fed. There are a lot of people who DO adopt and foster kids and yes there are many in the system but you're inferring they are there because they were forced to be birthed...children are taken from parents every day, parents DIE in accidents everyday with no family left to care for them, parents GO TO JAIL...SOMETIMES kids are removed from the he illegitimately. Roe was bad law. Read various positions on it whether for or against and it will make sense.
I know at least 5 couples that are adopting people in the foster care and 2 that are adopting the babies of women who don’t want them so people are giving kids that are born and are in the foster system a chance
So do you recognize that its child. Or it's a clump of cells? You point out theres a dignity
@@nataliabenoit4653 Look, nobody loves abortion and no one wakes up one day and says, "Gee I'm so glad I'm having an abortion today!" Things happen. Be careful who you talk to about abortion. You would be very surprised who's had one and you most likely know someone or several women.
@@elyseeblackstone4597 I had 3 miscarriages I nearly died with one doing a d&c I know it's not easy but why actually do that to a child that can go to full term and live in adoption killing someone is no ones right your logic is nonsense. I really dont know why your saying be careful? The person whose killed there own child should be aware that they are a murderer and needs to wake up and never do that again your child will be who stands with God on the day of judgement you will see that little face that you killed and go to hell if you dont change. Your body and that babys body is not your body to kill. Your body has a right to live just as that baby does
the question is where are the men who get them pregnant...that should be the subject for discussion ...its disgusting to see women go through this alone
Maybe they were never told. Did you ever think that?
@@Chevy3278 possibly yes, because the whole thing is two people are involved in the act but the law ends up saying only one person can decide to carry it or not. My body my right. When they die they should bury yourself. Messed up world
She can choose to abort but he cannot opt out of support....
Birth control, rubbers don't get pregnant if you don't want to have a child period. Unless rape or incest
@@deborrahshiffer9582 that's another I think birthday control should be available at any time a women can produce a baby with or without parents permission.
Its amazing how god needs annoying humans to do so much.
Right, for all knowing and seeing and powerful, sure doesn't seem to put any stops to the tragedies of this world. Seems like a lot of hate and violence and endless pain and suffering in the name of religious beliefs worldwide, I have nothing but contempt for these nutjobs.
@@kevinherd3437 word bro god is worried bout the wrong stuff he needs to be worried about the babies that are born with disorders, diseases , pedophiles and orphans. Once he takes care of that then he could come .
@@kevinherd3437
You might like China.
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God doesn't exist, stop believing in fictional characters
It's May 2022...Can we focus on rent control & a livable pay wage, & stay out of decisions made in-between a woman's legs??!!...THANK YOU!! 😕😕
I feel the exact same way. They're bringing this back up to distract us.
They're making this the hot button issue for the mid terms because China Joe's administration has reneged on every promise he's made. And he's got no, a very poor record to run on.
@Steven H but soon no one will be able to afford a place to live so soon they will lose out no matter what. Are the government and increase aid which in turn they will have to increase taxes so you be paying down the road no matter what.
something needs to be done. Rent is insane right now. I'm sure you realize this, but the point was we have more pressing issues than to deal with the religious right.... again.
Well, keep working. I'm Canadian so it's a little different I'm sure. But we're feeling it just the same. I consider myself lucky compared to many others, and it feels impossible some times.
Banning abortions doesn't stop abortions. Desperate women will still find a way. The abortion pills are available online. All banning abortions does is take away access to doctor supervision. More women will end up in the ER.
More women will end up dead.
I will never understand why anyone feels the need to take away rights of another person.
Right! those poor unborn babies! They're life is there very right to live and it's just taken from them there little bodies mutilated and thrown in the garbage!
@@nataliabenoit4653 yep😂 the womens right to chose trumps the unborn babies right to live
@@malboyqt So you support murder of babies
@@nataliabenoit4653 If their rights are equal to a woman's rights, why does every state (including the red pro-life states) have an exception for the life of the mother? Your side isn't even internally consistent. If pro-lifers truly believed that a fetus has equal rights to a woman, they would not have ANY exceptions. The reality is, you just want to control a woman's body.
@@malboyqt So why did every state with an abortion trigger law also have an exception for life of the mother? Clearly they also believe a woman's life is more valuable than a fetus.
We need to realize our privilege! Not everyone is born in a loving family. Not everyone is free from being abused from their own friends/family members. And not everyone who becomes pregnant is supported by family, some are thrown out of their homes and into homelessness. I am saddened that some people forget about the privileges they have and impose their values on others.
Amen to that. Compare Pro Life non-rules with how difficult it is to adopt.
I was abused and spent time in foster care. Myself and everyone there lived in horrible conditions, but none of us wish our mothers killed us. Fix the system, don’t just kill kids to prevent yourself from needing the system. That’s like “fixing” a leaky pipe by just not using water any more.
What percentage of abortions are due to rape / health risks / incest?
EDUCATION on YOUR BODY should be key. Enough with being ignorant.
So......just murder a baby, eh?
True, but the Left says "My Body, My Choice" on abortion but on covid shots it says "Your Body, Not Your Choice."
It’s all about control I don’t care how much explanation made.Get your nose out of peoples business,A nations that prides itself on individual freedom and liberty should not be having these type of debate.
Exactly
The freedom to kill babies is a right!!!!
Ok, fair enough. You liberals, then, stay out of the business of parents who don't want to teach their kids about gender fluidity.
My wife was adopted as a child. I love my wife very much and glad her mom chose not to have an abortion. So, don't you tell me this is not my business!
@@harrylime9611 - That is ^your^ business. That does not mean you should, based on ^your^ experience, get to decide what happens to every other woman (and what SHE chooses to do) in the rest of the U.S.
So much love for the unborn from all this god-fearing self- proclaimed prolife good people, and so much indifference once the babies are expelled from the womb, this people are the dictionary definition of deceitful.
You should meet my born again sister.......she aborted her and her husband's unwanted pregnancy when she was 15 and he 18 he's the son of a holly roller preacher father , Has spent her whole life blaming everyone but herself ! my point she spent countless hours trying to talk others out of the choices she made. alas she would never help money or actual support or adoption of unwanted children .
What the hell are you talking about?? The church doesn't help the poor??
Flood your Senator's offices with emails & phone calls & tell them to vote for the Women's Health Protection Act+
@@harrylime9611 Nope. The most religious states in the country are 1. Alabama, 2. Mississippi, 3. Tennessee. All 3 of those states are in the poorest 25% of states in the U.S.. If the church is helping the poor, they're doing a terrible job of it.
@@samaguga What's your point? That the places with the most churches would be the most materially prosperous? That's not the mission of the church.
14:03. He’s literally admitting to forcing his own beliefs on the whole state.
yeah that's politics
@@selvamani1973-p7b
...yeah just like when when Segregation was being Challenge, the Pro Segregationist tried to claim that Segregation was a Religious matter and that the State or Country has no Right to end Segregation...and Failed.
I’m curious; do you vote? And if so, isn’t that essentially an attempt to elect an official into office who holds the same views as you, whom you’re counting on to enact legislation that, by law, forces your shared views onto others/“the whole state”?
@@dannysutherland4911 An elected official, at least one with an ounce of character, understands that 1) he represents ALL citizens of his state, not just the ones that elected him, and 2) his moral beliefs are HIS, not everyones. These "pro-lifers" will also be the FIRST to fight any aid for families and children living in poverty. Real moral leaders they are.
@@Drpermer Yeah but the only problem with that argument is the process of electing an official to begin with is that “majority rules”. Therefore, you might not like it, but that’s a democracy for you. I’m sure there are plenty of people out there that believe murder and thievery are ok, fortunately most do not.. so therefore “majority rules” and we have laws that run in accordance with preventing it, sucks for those that want to kill and steal but.. oh well. And the fact that you ASSUME that “pro-lifers” will be the first to fight aid for poor families and children living in poverty is pure conjecture. And it sounds to me like most of these “anti-pro-lifers” along with their elected officials are the ones that seem to want to define what a woman is all of a sudden, as if suddenly NOW they believe in basic human biology. That’s strange, because according to their logic…. isn’t that bigotry, or is it just plain hypocrisy? So it would seem their beliefs have issues overlapping one another as well.
Since they are restricting abortion, what are they going to do to ensure that child has parents that care for it? What ensures that the father pays more than $25 a week to care for the child? What are they going to do to help the mother afford the medical care she will require to carry the child to term and the cost of the hospital bill for the birth?
So you think the answer is to continue murdering babies because of the inconvenience of the child
Yep, all those idiot's marching all day outside the abortion clinics could all be using their time to work & pay for all those unwanted kids.
Instead, they harass women, clearly in a hard situation, & weild their self-righteous judgment's. They claim to be Christians but use it as an excuse for extremist tactics & behavior.
What you are describing
is irresponsible parenthood.
Way to push more BS on the issue. This doesn’t restrict anything. It merely lets states decide independently and voters to have their say. You don’t like your states laws? Move or get an initiative on the ballot.
Law of unintended consequences
My great aunt got pregnant by the priest's son when she was 15, in a small town in the 1920s. It was a scandal! She had a black market abortion and it ruined her. When she was in her early 20s she got married and wanted to have children with her husband. But she couldn't. If she'd had access to a safe legal abortion then she would have babies when she was ready. This country is taking a giant step backwards trying to force women to carry unwanted pregnancies. Desperate women will be heading for potentially destructive back alley abortions
Well, abortion now can be accomplished with two pills, for those prior to 10 weeks of gestation. As the Drug Enforcement Agency has observed, it's hard to stop pills from moving places.
Not advising anyone to do this.
Just noting that this WILL be happening.
El Salvador has banned all abortion. Abortion still happens there. It's illegal, dangerous, and women there are serving prison time for miscarriages.
We're already seeing that last in the United States, so, we'll be seeing more of it.
@JG Interesting, it's almost like we are a constitutional republic or something? It's almost like States should decide.
@Steven H ikr
@JG no one asked
She should have never had an abortion in the first place but I understand why she did.
It’s hard enough finding doctors helping people in general. Let alone finding those who’d leave the comfort and trappings that come with being MD.
It's amazing how "God" is in the middle of this like everyone must believe in "God".
Fun fact, the Bible actually explicitly condones abortions. It even gives instructions in one part.
@@samaguga Until Roe, the religious view on abortion was nowhere near what it is now. Abortion was chosen as the target when the religious right in America lost the fight on banning interracial relationships.
Now that they've succeeded in killing off Roe, they're coming for that part too. We are enslaved to the whims of 9 people who can do whatever they want without repercussion.
@@samaguga Nope. Try again. Numbers 5;11 is the verse in question and it has nothing to do with pregnancy termination.
I don't believe in God but am a pro life
It has nothing to do with God for me. It's just life or unborn human and no other human should have the right to end that innocent life.
@@kipapula6838 How strange....An unborn human having rights over a born human...
"Rights aren't rights if someone can take them away. They're privileges. That's all we've ever had in this country, is a bill of temporary privileges." (George Carlin)
Respectfully, if rights are only rights if they can’t be taken away, what then is the meaning of the term, “inalienable rights”, if not meant to identify a category of rights that cannot be taken away?
An individual has all sorts of rights until that person, say, commits a crime, for example. Then [some] of those rights are taken away as a consequence, yes?
Where is "abortion" protected in the Bill of Rights?
Are fetuses humans? Don’t they have a right to live?
I have never wanted to punch so many people at once in my life.
Do you mean slap?
@@jragon9215 PUNCH.
I feel bad for American women. They're often told how free they are... they're not.
I suggest wearing all-metal rings. Avoid gemstone settings, the impact could dislodge the gem.
@@LexYeen Excellent advice.👍
*Pro- lifers:*
Hope you all are ready to open up your doors for *ANY & ALL* unwanted children. 💯
STOP HAVING SEX BEFORE YOU CAN HANDLE THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS!!!!
They aren't my children.
@@jakebredthauer5100 So stop pushing your bullshit views
Oh yes we're ready for it cuz we want the babies of the world to stop being murdered and society will deal with it the best we can either way we want the killing of unborn children to stop
Do you have open doors for al imigrants?
We are living in the first few chapters of the Handmaiden's Tale.
Aw do you live in fiction on the regular. Try full-term 9 month babies being killed/aborted in at least the state of Colorado.
@JoggaStoppa™ Let me guess…Male?🖤🇨🇦
Well then I should start watching it. It's still on my to watch list.
But tbh, I'm scared now that this passed in murica it will spread like cancer throughout the world.
Right wing murica and Islam is the same thing. Oppress woman because I'm a man and I said this and that.
I'm so sorry for all the woman who are not able to take care of themselves anymore because of the overturning of Roe V Wade.
But don't stop. I'll assure you more things will be overturned. Maybe as far as interracial marriage. Since it had to be written in law there.
Stay safe and remember, if you want to take action. You could go extreme. Just don't get cought.
Do you guys do anything else besides watch television and get your concept of reality from Hollywood screenwriters? 😂
@@michellemarie9526 Handmaiden's Tale was written by Margaret Atwood in 1985.
Yet another thing wrong with duocracy. Time to do something about that. I say ranked-choice voting, ending gerrymandering, campaign funding reform, and better anti-corruption laws (particularly for lobbyists and the representatives they deal with). There are just too many ways to infect the government.
And do away with the antiquated electoral college. It would keep republiCONS out of office.
you will never get anti corruption laws for any democrat party concerns. The corruption that democrat party lobbyists, and the democrat party itself, are perpetually embroiled will make those laws a huge detriment to the democrat party and their lobbying groups.
Look at what happened when ACORN was exposed.
This is what one gets when the leader of a country is elected directly. Personality over substance. Ideology over pragmatism. And those personalities have so much lasting influence over the direction of the country. The parliamentary system is by no means perfect but it tends to reduce the chance of ending up with populist dogmatic leaders. Whatever your political stripe is, take a look at the most extreme elected national leaders and then check to see how many are Presidents vs Prime Ministers. Unfortunately in the USA, the cause is embedded right into the foundation of the system.
@@chrisoutdoors "embedded right into the foundation of the system." Yes, yes. Exactly. And, now that they control the system and therefor the divide, we're stuck here until we can take back the very system itself.
@@TesserId I'm not sure who your are referring to as "they." Or what you mean by taking back the system. Not a criticism of your comment, just I don't understand it. Let my comment not be misinterpreted. I am not speaking of any particular people or that there is some great conspiracy going on. But rather, simply that directly electing a person to an office that wields so much power can have unintended and sometimes detrimental results when populism and the politics polarization tend to win out. Imagine if you will, eliminating the Executive Branch and having the leader of the House of Representatives (not any particular person, just whoever that may be at any time) as the leader of the federal government. Republican or Democrat, neither one is likely to have as their House leader one that is on the extreme end of their political spectrum. Also, my comment is not a criticism of the United States, which is chock full of wonderful, talented and benevolent people. A leader in the world in many wonderful ways. But unfortunately a country that has so needlessly become incredibly politically polarized recently. The only people that benefit from this are the politicians and despotic nations that benefit from a divided and thus weakened United Sates. That is a very sad thing to witness as it weakens the state of liberal democracy worldwide. There is no doubt that the world's autocracies are taking full advantage of this and expanding their influence and economic power globally. How does this relate to Rowe vs Wade decision, the subject of this documentary? That is for the great people of the United States to decide, within the system they have democratically decided to uphold.
What a fitting upload for todays news
Uh, yeah. Not a coincidence. Sadly.
These anti abortionists r seriously freakin sick…. Some of those comments …. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Just because you made a bad decision you won't be a killing a human cause of it
Yes aren't they sick, they believe that people should be killed in the womb! Oh, wait...
It baffles me to even imagine how pro abortions moraly think they are more sympathetic to humans than por life, how tf does that logically work ?
I don’t agree with a sweeping ban on abortion. I also don’t agree with abortion being made political. It’s extremely hard both psychologically and physically for women to make this decision, what about rape and incest. I believe the decision ought to be made between a doctor and the patient. Thank goodness I live in the UK
the only rational argument of Pro choice is "what about rape and incest"...... They are ALWAYS exception, Don't be a liar!
If an abortion is performed early its really not that physically damaging. If you look at the statistics very few women regret their decision.
RAPE AND INCEST...for many years these were common, accepted exemptions that even the ANTI/RESTRICTIVE STATES ALLOWED..all of a sudden in the past couple years this has changed and no longer accepted by anti abortionists..THIS SHIFT DISGUSTS AND APPAULS ME MORE THEN ANYTHING..Now all of a sudden these cases are "uncommon and rare".. Victims of SA, no matter the age, are expected to carry a baby to term because this unborn babys life is more important then the extended trauma forced upon an already traumatized victim??? Oh they can give the baby up for adoption...if they make it...If women/teens are forced to carry a baby resulting from SA there's going to be a lot of suicides...
So if the legislation allows you to have abortion in cases of rape and incest which is under 3% are willing to say let's ban the 97%??? Pro choicers always bring up that argument of rape and incest to justify the 97%.
Rape and incest cause less than 1 percent of pregnancies. If we allow abortion in the case of rape and incest are you ok with making abortion for convenience illegal
Note that in this piece, they kept the out of state clinic, employees, etc.. anonymous for safety purposes.
This will become the case throughout the United States very soon.
Clinics, clinicians, and patients in legal states will be increasingly accosted, threatened, and worse.
I'm not happy to say any of this...but it's certain
That doesn’t make loads of sense, given that we already have hardcore pro-lifers living in states that permit abortion up through nine months, like NY. If your idea is that there are a lot of violent, dangerous pro-lifers then why wouldn’t they have been targeting abortionists all along? But overwhelmingly they have not been doing that.
Seeing a bunch of men writing laws on what women can and can't do with their bodies. Mind ya own damn business
So you’re against Roe? It was ruled into effect by seven men and zero women.
It's giving peak misogyny.
They aren't "pro-life", they are "pro-birth". They don't do a thing for these children after they're born as far as helping the Moms get work, or education, housing, Healthcare (if anything the opposite) or anything other than tossing them a pack or two of diapers and maybe a used stroller.
Very true. Mississippi has the highest poverty rate in the U.S. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, 19.6 percent of Mississippians live below the poverty line. These people are religious lunatics. 🙄 Why are they worried about unborn people, when they have the highest poverty rate in the entire union? 😆 Child poverty rate: 28.1% (the highest)
• Overall poverty rate: 19.6% (the highest)
• Families with annual incomes below $10,000: 5.7% (2nd highest)
Then if these women are so poor to raise a child than why get pregnant?
The question remains though; are any of these problems that you’ve touched on justification for the murder of an unborn child?
If so, then that premise pushed a logical conclusion, based on the list of circumstances you’ve listed, will one day threaten the lives of more than just the unborn.
It’s something to think about.
@@judeisnot_rude because when you grow up poor and under educated, you don't understand the repercussions of having sex. one that child is born, they should drop it off at the nearest pro-life center. OH WAIT, that's illegal, you can only dropnit off at firestations or hospitals.
An ironic tale indeed.
The same crowd of people it seems who advocate for policies that promote “healthy earth” for future generations, because future generations are so vitally important, is, in that same moment advocating for the murder of that very future generation they’re fighting to provide a “green earth” for.
Ban Viagra. If having a baby is God’s will, then so is impotence.
Women (Maybe men) typically want their man to use viagra, too🤔 ED is a medical condition and irrelevant to the birth control topic.
That will be effective.
Facts
Yess!
MANDATORY CHEMICAL CASTRATION IMMEDIATELY!
People are prolife until the child is born, then that concern is over.
Bullshit
What are you talking about? We want it illegal to kill a child both before and after birth
In case you all are not aware...this video is from 2005
We are aware which makes this video 1000% times worse considering that in 2022, Roe V. Wade has been overturned.
@@medusaink3 I read all of the history of roe v wade and it was predominantly passed for practical purposes liability and medical practice across states to allow abortions without a mess of laws and liability and regulations. Nowhere in the entire ruling docs is there any mention of woman's rights or civil liberties or freedoms. So this video is pertinent.
congress needs to make it a law, and they need to do it now while they have enough democrats. roe is a court ruling, not a law. congress had 50 years to write a federal law ensuring _everyone's_ bodily autonomy. it's time to get that done.
Keep your legs closed… and keep tht same energy with vaccines 💉
I really enjoy your take!! Thankyou so much for sharing💗 I appreciate you and I hope you continue to share your good thoughts because they're powerful !!🌟🐇
You should probably read a book sometime. Congress becomes powerless despite the timeline & a side note not every democrat will be on the side of baby murder
Don't you mean 250 years?
They could have done it when Obama was in yet they didn't what does that tell you
After Jesus, how can any Christian believe in abstinence working?
Lmao why is that too real 🤣 their beliefs contradict *Jesus' birth itself.
*Actually, let's push abstinence only despite knowing it's completely unrealistic unless you're asexual or have a low libido*
worked for me and my wife, take some responsibility for yourself and your actions
@@brunoantony9257 who you telling to take responsibility for their actions? You and your wife practice abstinence? What a fun a marriage
I started watching The Handmaid's Tale last night. That reality cannot be allowed to come to fruition.
That's fictional fool. Try separating reality from TV
@@karelglasner2673 Not too far off what could become reality, fascist. It's not farfetched for a nation to collapse into theocracy.
GTFOH there isn’t abortion in the handmaids almost the whole damn world is infertile
For all the talk of protecting a life, I’d bet that many of these people are simultaneously against foodstamps, welfare, paid parental leave, child care assistance, and taxes to support orphans.
Look, I get that this is a super touchy topic. ButI think that regardless of your reasons for being for or against abortions, if you’re going to insist that this procedure be illegal, then you should feel obligated to support social programs that make life easier for the parents that are going to be affected. It makes no sense to be religiously opposed to a decision, and simultaneously be opposed to helping this person through her struggle.
If it's not OK to kill a born child because there aren't enough programs to help it's not OK to kill an unborn child....
Besides there is this thing called ADOPTION - i.e. long waiting lists of people wanting to give a newborn a chance at a full and productive life if a woman doesn't want her baby. No need to kill.
Well, many people beeing pro abortion are so in order to minimise costs. If you are pro life, you are obviously willing to grant further expenses for parents in need. This is only logical.
@@freedomfighterletsgobrandon so it should be ok for the parents to kill a born child to minimize cost?
@D&B You don´t know.
@D&B Abby Johnson has...
Why is it anyone's business, beside the woman/girl & her family? What are these holy rollers going to do to assist a young rape/incest victim that is forced to have a baby? It's barbaric. Not to mention the lack of access to birth control. Concerned for women's health, my ass.
What about what the child wants? You were a fetus in your mothers womb at one point, what if your mother decided to kill your ass. How would you feel about that?
Access to abortion influences young women to act wrecklessly. We should be encouraging young women to act responsibly and cherish the role nature endowed unto them. What is there to argue about?
close your legs, abortion isn't birth control
Exactly, why is it anyone's business but my own if I refuse to be a Guinne pig for big pharmas multi vaccination big money makers. 1500 adverse side effects, yeah no thanks I'll stick with my 99.97% covid survival rate.
@@mr_2dinners253 Why on earth does it matter to you how women "act" sexually? It's none of your business, and you Christian zealots want nothing more than to turn this country into a theocracy where women have no rights except to be subservient to the man.
"Nature" didn't endow us anything. We are sentient beings and part of being a human being is that we AREN'T wholly at the whims of nature, we can think, we invented tools. We can choose our destiny.
"Ban guns"
"Banning guns won't work, people will still get guns. There isn't a good way to stop this so we should just not bother."
Sorry did I say guns? I meant Abortions.
Guns are good.
@@jakebredthauer5100 it depends on the owner 💯
Same with all sin but gross evil should be illegal
After it gets out that back alley abortions cause long term damage, it will slow tremendously
Buying a firearm and killing a baby are two different things.
Newsflash: if you don’t support abortion, don’t have one? Why oppress the rights of others?
If you dont like murder, then dont commit murder! Why oppress the rights of serial killers to murder as and when they want??
Same goes for child abuse and spousal abuse! Dont like beating women and children? Then dont beat up women and children! Who are you to oppress and stop the rights of parents and spouses to abuse and beat their family members??
(Sarcasm) in case the horrifying logical conclusion of your psychopathic statement goes over your head!
@@edres7563 I’m guessing you’re not pro-choice 🤔🤔🤔?
@@edres7563
Abortion is not murder, and it’s not your job to tell women what they can and can’t do with their own bodies
@@coyotelong4349 Great. Call a dad a dead beat for abandoning his kid. A girls kills her baby you call it pro choice. Maybe the man when taken to court should say "your honor it was her body and her choice therefore she is 100% responsible". A man is held responsible but yet the girl doesnt have to take responsibility for the baby growing inside her. She chose to conceive the baby. And she doesnt have to take responsibility for it. Funny.
@@coyotelong4349 A doctor treats two patients when a woman is pregnant. It's not the women's body.
I rather the fetus be sent back up to its higher power than have to be born and live a stressful life being in adoption, foster care where they aren't wanted and are treated like a commodity and not as a human worthy of being loved.
Exactly. Why are Christians so against more spirits getting to heaven?
close your legs, abortion isn't birth control
@Cancel Me...I DARE You
Seems logical
Yeaaaah.. but what if that poor fetus, being born into a stressful life of being adopted ends up living a happy life with adoptive parents that love them and that they love? And what if that child ends up becoming a medical doctor and saving someone’s life like.. your own when you’re older? And what if that child ends up being a genius that becomes a successful bio chemists that develops a cure for cancer? Hmm..
Oh please. Go visit a prison or juvenile detention center or mental hospital or talk to kids in foster care about how happy they are.
When do we start mandatory vasectomy for all males over the age of 12 , When you show yourself to be responsible and mature enough, you may have it reversed . problem solved !
pls take meds schizo
Mandate vasectomies for all men who have had three children
No vasectomy No Viagra!
Lol interesting proposal.
@@Missy-Missy1111 no viagra?!? Bess, you’ve gone too far. Society will collapse!
I think that every pro life person should have to put their money where their mouth is, and have to financially support each of these children born to parents unable to care for them themselves. Lets call it "18 years of child rearing tax". Because if you truly do value life, you wouldn't want that child to live a life of suffering, hunger, and cruelty. Turning your back on the fallout of making abortions illegal - the most likely horrible lives of the poor children - doesnt seem very Christian to me.
Well said. Everyone needs to hear this. We aren’t doing society any favors - especially given that the pro-life people seem to be overwhelmingly anti-welfare, anti-healthcare, anti- anything that doesn’t directly benefit them, it’s hard for me to wrap my head around what they really have to gain by adopting a “holier than thou” stance?
Pro-life is really pro-birth in a sense. However, if a woman uses invitro to bear a child, she might now be restricted to have to bear ALL embryos, which would not be a good health decision for her or the unborn. She might not be able to utilize invitro to be able to reproduce. Ironic, isn't it?
They're not pro-life, they are pro-birth, pro-control.
I wish pro-aborition would just be honest about their position: they don't care if babies are murdered because a woman's lifestyle is more important than life.
@Cancel Me...I DARE You Great question!
Until poverty is addressed, as the number ONE issue, abortion will continue. There is a lot more to address if you want to end abortion, however poverty IS the number one issue unrelentingly in the face of women faced with this moral battle. I am a Christian, and I do fear it is too acceptable to abort, however, if this is all you care about then you don't really care. There is so much more at play. This world sets us up to sin, condemn and turn a blind eye. It upholds class divisions and all encompassing moral dilemmas, many of which well-to-do people do not face as frequently, if at all.
Poverty and abortion go hand in hand! Let the churches discuss that with God. He wants to hear what YOU WILL DO about fixing poverty which will eradicate a lot of abortions being sought. If you want to stop babies being killed, end poverty!
*You know, I had my son at 23 wks gestation, so I have positive and negative feelings about abortion depending on how far along someone is, but also the circumstance! But I also feel like this is a personal choice that shouldn't be denied! How can a state completely banish abortions??? What about situations with serious health issues, incest, or even a rape victim getting pregnant??? We live in a country where we're supposed have have "freedom of choice"! And things like this, I don't think it should take a mass vote! Now, I personally don't feel right about women getting an abortion bc of an "accident" .... but then again, I also think we should have a choice! Adoption is a beautiful thing and I do wish this would be chosen over abortion but... what if a women is suicidal over simmering like this as well??! So, overall, I strongly believe it should be a choice available everywhere!!! A women choosing abortion gets more judgement then a women addicted to drugs while pregnant... and that's just sad!!*
Because murder is always literally illegal
@@ShrekThaOGEE what if mom or baby is at high risk of dying for reasons? What if incest is involved? I understand what your saying but I also always look from all sides bc that's important!
@@jessicarenae5107 yes ok finally a smart person. I do take into account as a pro life supporter that there are women who experience these thing and the simple facts are if you don’t think they should have to have a kid why isn’t the pro choice movement geared towards those minorities that incest rape is a huge talking point whenever this is discussed but it *ONLY MAKES UP 0.5% OF WOMEN* while the rape without incest only makes up about 1-2% which means that about 98%of pro choicers just want hot girl summers
@@jessicarenae5107 it’s absolutely ridiculous that nobody is actually fighting for a bill that specifically protects the rights of these victims they use that as a vehicle to achieve this for ALL WOMEN and that’s unacceptable because it absolves responsibility the entire world would be off balance and we would have to face the prospect of full on extinction
And as for women who could die should know this and even still that’s the point of a hospital delivery
No male should be involved with this subject, since we are unable to become pregnant. I believe it's that simple, none of the so called folks against abortion adopt unwanted babies and are against any post natal care or funding programs that help watch, feed, cloth etc...
Speak for yourself. Fathers have the ability to care for their children just like mothers do. We may not be able to become pregnant yet women are and so please explain how that happened.
As a female I don’t agree. If it wasn’t for men women can’t get pregnant period. Therefore if the woman doesn’t want the baby for whatever reason then the father/male can take care and raise the child. If a woman doesn’t want children they can take the pill or tie their tubes.
If you say so bigot. Plenty of trans men have gotten pregnant.
Hey now are you implying gender determines if one can get pregnant? Well I'll have you know my friend the Democratic Party thinks differently and disagreeing with this means you're transphobic. So why would I listen to a bigot?
Geez what a douchebag thing to say man
To those who are in agreement with the court, who are in favor of restricting access to abortion. The vast majority of you don't care at all about babies. If you did, you would be in favor of healthcare for everyone, not just for the children of people who can afford it. If you cared about babies, you would be more concerned with birth control and sex education so that unwanted pregnancies didn't happen in the first place.
But you're not. The overwhelming majority of you aren't concerned at all about babies.You're concerned with punishing women. You believe that you have the right to decide what a woman can and can't do and it threatens you if she decides to do something different from what you believe to be correct.
People will have sex, no matter what you say or believe. That is what people have always done and will always do. If you really cared about babies, you would want to prevent births where the parents can't take care of the baby. But you don't, you don't want to fund sex education, birth control or healthcare. You don't want to take care of the babies once they're born. All you care about is the ability to penalize women for the temerity of having sex. That is your goal.
I am trying for patience and tolerance but I admit that I am filled with disgust and anger for the people who are trying to make the lives of poor women more difficult.
Middle class women, wealthy women will always have the ability to go to a different state and end their pregnancy. This will affect women who can least afford it. And these babies, the babies you will force on these women, what kind of lives will they have? You don't care about the babies' lives, your deep Christian concern ends when the baby exits the woman's womb. The hypocrisy is stunning.
We don't have healthcare for all in this country, almost every other country has it but we don't. We don't offer sex education, contraception, we talk about this being the greatest country in the world, and it once was, but no longer.
Don't be a hypocrite. If you claim to care about the lives of babies, care about them once they're born.
An educated viewpoint in the TH-cam comments? There _is_ hope.
Don’t forget about the millions of Americans that die from preventable diseases due to for profit healthcare.
That’s pure stupidity!!!
@@robertperkins246 Which part of it? I've noticed you spewing ugliness in the comments. What's wrong?
AGREED!!!
I’ve watched a few videos about abortion and there is something that is consistent. Pro-Life Crisis Centers only offer free pregnancy tests, diapers, clothes and maybe a some baby items. What about money for childcare, food, clothing after the baby stage, etc?
Many pregnancy resource centers do things like women find jobs (or find better jobs), find more affordable housing, help them sign up for benefits they may not have been aware they were eligible for etc..Those are real solutions that help women keep their babies and provide for them.
@@mathildeyoung1823 I’m in counseling classes. Can you give me the names of those centers? I’d like to share with my class.
@D&B No they don't... We do know that k!lling innocent human beings to make your life easier needs to be illegal though.
@D&B Black women have a higher percentage of abortion than white women (as a percentage of race)... It's the founder of Planned unParenthood that pushed birth control to minorities..
As far as the adoption mantra.... If you want tougher animal abuse laws in your city or state do you have to adoption an animal to show your support? NO.. I don't have to adopt to be against child abuse, infanticide or abortion. Besides, there are long waiting lists of people wanting to adopt newborn babies.
@D&B I care about all innocent human beings - none of them should be killed. Is it OK to kill a newborn because there are teenagers in the system? NO. it's not OK to kill an unborn child because there are teenagers in the system either. Got any other LAME excuses to try to justify abortion?
I became pregnant at 15, when my mother found out she gave me two choices 1. get an abortion and move on with our lives OR 2. Have my baby and get kicked out of our home. I chose the latter, and 25 yrs later I have a beautiful daughter YET while I don't believe in abortion I have enough human decency to respect (not agree) but respect someone else's choice and right to their OWN body.
I heartily commend your beautiful choice to let your daughter live. And I’m really happy that you’re happy with that choice. I would just point out that in the case of abortion the “procedure” is being done to the child in the womb, namely, the child is being killed. I believe it is yes, harder, but actually more respectful and loving to say to a woman with an unplanned pregnancy, “I understand that you feel unable to raise your child and you don’t have to ..but the solution to your problem is not killing him or her.”
@@Featherfinder your comments are excellent. It is so good to see your comments here.
@@Charity-vm4bt Thank you so much, Charity 2019! You made my day :)
Why do people say "I don't believe in abortion", like they are denying its entire existence? That's like saying "I don't believe in cars" if you choose not to drive a car.
It would be much more truthful to say "I don't agree with abortion being legal", or "I don't believe abortion is for me".
@@Charity-vm4bt Tell me you didn't read my comment, without telling me you didn't read my comment.
Seriously, why can’t people just leave others to live their lives? If you are a doctor and you are against abortions, don’t provide it. If you are a pregnant woman and want to get an abortion but your partner doesn’t, that’s you guys’ problem.
No one else needs to get involved.
that's right: live-and-let-live: abortion is evil, don't let them talk you into it~~~~
So if I wanted to beat you up that's our problem, no one should get involve??? 😂
Because killing is killing and we must have a consistency in our legal system
Because conservatives know playing on the fears and sentiments of religious / moral conservatives means money and power for them. It's unfortunate that people are pawns in the games of people in powerful positions
KEEP YOUR CLINICS OUT OF AFRICAN AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOODS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All ways a bunch of white people pushing for abortions that eliminated 20 million African Americans. Margaret Sanger is a racist and Planned Parenthood is a racist organization.
Only by a minute bit, of all of the life that we have destroyed during our time here, overpopulated by about 5 billion, a religious dogma from 2000 years ago is still holding the key to solving our problems.
How can you be 'pro-life' but yet not be Vegan?
How can you be a vegan and be pro abortion?
Or the other way! How you care for other species and not your own?
Equating human life and animal life. Genius!
🤣👏💐
@@phoenix5054 They are interdependent…Nature has a chain pattern, and each species has it’s place…humans often forget ours and disregard the other species unless they cute.🖤🇨🇦
Pro-life until the baby is born. Shame on pro-lifers.
Shame on your lack of effort in trying to make any sense whatsoever with claiming that pro-lifers only care about a baby until it is born. What’s the incentive of that? What’s to be gained by any pro-lifer in that instance? Why are you shaming people that are.. pro.. life? Are you an “anti-lifer”?
Oh, pleeeease.
Mississippi remains near the bottom of every metric for a progressive, modernized society in terms of education, health, welfare, civil rights, equality, and infrastructure. It hasn't changed since this documentary came out or much over the past 60 years.
And your point is?
banning abortion based on religions not all believe is 100 percent wrong
Everytime they're explaining "why" it's wrong to kill babies/fetuses/cluster they always refer to the ancient texts or spirit of Jesus or the Lord or the biblical philosophy of what's right and wrong. It's 100% biblical for them. Satanic Temple needs to include volunteer abortion as a religious practice and therefore protected under other segments of the broken and outdated constitution. They seem to hate the interpretation that the Bible says anything other than "don't abort under any circumstances"
Killing someone for convenience is far worse
I walked by a pro-life peaceful protest along the city sidewalk. I’m Asian and one of the ladies holding sign that had to do with god (can’t remember exactly) screamed and said “Go back to where you came from, Chinese b&tch”🤣🤣🤣 I’m like okay
that is some messed up Christian beliefs isn't it? I hope you take that with a grain of salt...we are all worthy of love and can give love...except for ignorant people! When you are ignorant of other people's beliefs and are focused on your own greatness, how can you possibly respect anyone? She can't love anyone else and she probably doesn't love herself. Those pro-birth people must go home so proud of themselves for standing in the sun, kneeling on the concrete, and wasting the time of their kids who could be at home being kids and not listening to such blathering.
There you were, just quietly walking by, and the evil pro lifer screamed at you and cursed at you simply because you are Asian? You are lying. That’s an evil thing to do, to make up a nasty lie in order to make a group of decent people look guilty of something they don’t actually do.
Bullshit, liar
I wonder what the pro lifer would say if an Asian lady walked into an abortion clinic? Would she want to save the fetus?
@@V.E.R.O. Yes, ANY pro lifer would want to save an Asian fetus. Or any fetus of any race.
Women must force a reckoning over what SCOTUS has done to America.
Lol good luck 😂
Not just women. Men often encourage women to get the abortion. Further, where does this end? How many of your rights are you willing to have the state or government dictate? Do you think it stops here?
What do you mean?
Are you advocating violence?
@@Les020519 MURDER is not a human right. LIFE IS. And that's exactly what you're taking from babies
@@janedoe3648 If you get sexually assaulted you deserve the right to terminate the pregnancy.
In Uganda, am up and as soon as I got this notification am here. Great piece of informative journalism. Thank you frontline
The BBC makes the same videos outlining issues on your continent. This has no relevance to 🇺🇬.
@@Teddy_Graham It hs relevance lol!Abortion is happening in Uganda no?
@@fidelrial2575 I don’t know what happens in Uganda. Not my problem. Just like when ever crime happens in Uganda, it has no relevance to me here.
Where in Uganda are you?
I've seen how Uganda cares for its unwanted children....always pro life till after the fetus is born
So much for the separation of church and state. We are being ruled by corrupt billionaires and religious zealots.
Get real, you're just wanting people to be able to murder babies for convenience
There is no proscription against religious zealots. The church is a separate institution, as required. It should never be funded by the government.
Huh? Plenty of atheists think abortion is immoral.
close your legs, abortion isn't birth control
What do laws banning abortion have to do with religion? Do you think laws against infanticide are religious?
Not much has changed in Mississippi in the last 100 years; low education rates, no sex-education, racial discrimination, & religious fanaticism.. Same planet, different world. Thanks for posting. v
If I ever get stopped by a religious person and they don’t leave me alone after I’ve asked nicely 3 times I will immediately act possessed 😂
Just send them back to Jesus and then argue that it was for their health and they were possessed... It's not murder, it's "helping them get into heaven" and clearly better for their long term health..
act crazier than they are!
How dare these people think they have a right to choose my life for me 40 years ago I made a choice and it is still between me and my end maker!!!!
You mean how dare these people want to PROTECT innocent human beings from those who want to kill them!
They want to protect the life of the child the mother is carrying, as should you.
Doesn’t your maker say “thou shalt not kill”?
My maker isn't a mythical figure living in the clouds pretending to love all yet animals are tortured elderly abused babies raped you keep your great Liar
By “I made a choice” i assume you mean you murdered your child. I’m afraid it isn’t just between you and God. What you did should be against the law
You don’t want one, don’t get one.
It’s that simple.
FYI to all you Prolifers out there. Your rich conservative congressmen will ALWAYS have access for his mistress… ALWAYS
Bro preach that truth! You know damn right these shady ass multimillionaire politicians be sending they mistresses on private jets right down to Cuba, Mexico, Bolivia, Brazil, ect. Hell, they probably don't even need to do that anymore. I'm sure they have access to some "illicit supply" of the pill by this point.
Restricting access to safe abortions and charging women who have them with murder/manslaughter is the modern witch hunt. It's just a method of disracting the working class with an issue that doesn't threaten the economic or political status quo. All this at the expense of women and ultimately children. Women seek abortions to end unwanted pregnancies. If that pregnancy is carried to term, that unwanted child born, that child ultimately suffers.
Still wrong!!
@@gulfportflamefighter4545 Actually right. The table always turn🤷🏽♀️
That same argument falls apart when it comes to vaccine mandates. I am pro-vaccine mandate, so I am not criticizing them, but it is an acknowledgement that what we do with our bodies (and especially a body developing inside of us) DOES matter, DOES affect others.
LIFE IS PRECIOUS!
Your body your choice....no one should make that choice but you!
Not religious groups ..you are the only one that knows the circumstances of your position....
I refuse to ever bring a child into a world where he (or she) has less than 100% choice over what happens to her body. That’s why I will stay on birth control until I hit menopause.
What are they trying to do to us? What are they scare of?..this is almost unbelievable.
They are keeping us informed and free.
@@deathstar7766 I think they just want to crush babies' heads but ok, free and informed it is.
What are who scared of?
It is about power; power over women
We are considered 2ndary citizens losing a right over our healthcare, our bodies if the very Rightwinged SCOTUS choose to rewrite Hx, taking us back to the dark ages
Abortions will continue and punishing Women is the goal
It's very believable to me. Sad though.
Who takes care of the children that aren't wanted. There should be policies to follow for funding for the children that can't be cared for. Stopping abortion isn't the answer. Education is.
I concur they dont even buy milk
close your legs, abortion isn't birth control
An "Insurrection" on Women's Rights
- and breakdown of Privacy Rights
for "Aaall!"
Just leave the women alone. 🤦♂️🤰
How about leave the babies alone and stop murdering them
@@Yelladog78 you realize it's technically not murder since it's not recognized as an individual until it's born, right??
Scientifically... a fetus isn't considered viable until the 24wks of gestational age (approx) either.
American babies don't begin to age until they're born. Although there are countries where a baby is truly considered as an individual, upon conception.
South Korea is one of them.
I'm 42yrs old, here in the states. However, I am 44 yrs old in South Korea.
*Let that marinate.. because it's something to REALLY think about* 💯
Good day to you, sir/madam.
@@Jin420 you realize that it's a sacred created life from the day it's formed right?
Hiding behind some science in a feeble attempt to clear one conscience of the fact that they had their child murdered for convenience sake is a feeble argument and at the end of your life whether you believe it or not you will stand before God who created you and who Grant's life and that fictitious argument will be like standing on sinking sand as you plead for mercy that you did not give that unborn child.
Deep down inside you you know that's the truth
@@Jin420 So what?
@@Jin420 its life no matter what your little definition says.
Hypocrisy...won't pay for these poor peoples abortions but once these babies are born the state says we don't wanna do anything to help nurture or maintain their quality of life.
Save children from perverted clergy.
If Single Parents had a chance to thrive, it would be different! To force a Woman to have a Baby when She's not ready, is cruel and inhumane! Unwanted Children grow up to be Unwanted Adults!
100%
Beverly Stockton, this is 100% true. Thank you.
She has options to avoid becoming pregnant if she will be responsible enough to use them. Hardly a newsflash.
@@au131951 Wealthy women have the choice to use birth control too. They also have the choice of getting an abortion even when poor women don't.
@Alysia Williams Yep and they are just as responsible to use them.
Forgive them Christians father,
for they know not what they do.
It's crazy just how much damage and suffering can be inflicted by religious shenanigans. 😕
it’s not killing a baby it’s saving a woman’s life
i’m not afraid of death a thing isn’t beautiful because it lasts
i’m saying i’m not willing to give life to this world than killing a woman
There are so many bigger problems in this country than abortion. But, abortion is an easy concept to grasp for both-sides and it unifies people together under a clear and simple mission: end abortion. Fighting poverty or inequality or environmental issues are so much more nuanced and complicated that it's much harder to unify and galvanize people. So in short, the black and white nature of abortion itself feeds into the endless fight and cycle.
It's a great distraction to solve nothing.
A woman makes a poor choice and a baby has to die, that's stupid.
This isn't about religion. This isn't about liberals vs conservatives. This is about the government trying to control women.
In yer democrap dreams
it is about state's rights
@@PJthePB that's what they said about slavery, too.
No it's not about women it's about babies, no one is murdering women
The church here is Frontline.
Why does 2005 looks like the 90s
It wasn't till like 2007 when the 90s mentality ended. Most people didn't even have HD TV's till the next year.
Time to revive and pass the ERA to protect American women’s health care rights. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I’m glad you admit that the ERA would be used to read a right to abortion into the constitution. Thank God it didn’t get ratified
Leaving the comment section open for THIS video ... bold, PBS, bold.
PBS is one of the last respected places for information about the world. I'm glad Frontline is still having adult discussions. 👏
If you hate abortion, don't have one. Don't take the choice from women. These clinics provide more than abortion. It's easy to stand against it until it happens to a loved one. Unfortunately, the privileged can send their children, wives and mistresses to other states to have an abortion.
"If you don't like slavery, don't own a slave"
@@NihilSineDeo09 and it isn't the same thing and you know it
@@tommier5210
Not the same, because slaves were generally not killed outright, at least they had utilitarian value in the eyes of their masters.
However, both slaves and pre-born babies were viewed as not being human persons, thus not worthy of Constitutional rights. Both were considered property of the owners - disposable.
Also, another common link is that abortion was popularized in US by Margaret Sanger as an extension of eugenics, expressly in order to limit the growth of the black population since she viewed them as inferior species (about 90 years ago).
@@NihilSineDeo09 women are not property of the state. Making a women or someone who could give birth have an child regardless of circumstances is taking away from Thier bodily anatomy. Much how like slavery took away agency from human beings.
And I don't care about Margret Sanger. Her harm and views have however been acknowledged.
@@tommier5210
Currently pre-born babies are viewed as property of the woman, same as slaves were viewed as chattele. The legal justification behind both Roe v Wade and Dredd Scott was that pre-born babies and slaves are not human persons. You claimed that slavery is not the same as abortion. Of course, they are different phenomena, but they have similar moral and legal foundations.
Honest question:
When someone asks your age, that's age of BIRTH correct?
So why is everyone saying "baby" when it's still a fetus?
Fetus sounds much more beautiful than baby. A fetus is just so cute!
It’s a convention. A birthday doesn’t say anything about the humanity of the fetus. Suppose we started counting birthdays 10 years after birth. Woukd a nine year old not be a human being then?
You pro choicers are endlessly creative of euphemisms to cover up the reality of abortion
Termination of pregnancy
Abortion care
Medical procedure
Contents of the womb
Host/parasite
Set children up for failure by forcing women to birth and then tell the children they should be happy they are alive. Force others to birth the baby then tell the unready woman and child they are on their own. Welcome to the American conservative religious base. This is exactly why we need separation of church and state.
Religious fundamentalism is running wild in the U.S.
33:20
"To US that would be harmful to her health"
Revoke and make sure her license is suspended. That is NOT A MEDICAL DECISION YOU CAN MAKE. An OPINION doesn't merit HEALTH!
In surgery, the surgeon doesn't say "well the spleen I'm not gonna remove cuz to ME, that's harmful to her health"
Under Earl Warren, the Sup Ct began making up things using concepts such as substantive due process. From Miranda to abortion to gay marriage and contraception, the Constitution was silent and these matters should have been left to the states to decide.
An average of 110 firearm related homicides per day, surely there's another target (pardon the pun) for the pseudo pro-life movement?
They had a chance to dodge the bullet or come armed, the fetuses still at least need a chance to die in a school shooting 😕
The problem with "Right To Life" is that the people at the top of those organizations have the facts and know the statistics, and they know that the best outcomes for women and girls and their pregnancies occur in countries where abortions are safe, legal, and supported.
This isn't spin; it's plain fact.
If you care about "unborn babies," you have the responsibility to know what is the effect of the outcome you are achieving. You have the responsibility to know ALL the facts, not just the ones that make you feel good about yourself.
The unassailable fact is that in countries where abortion has acceptance; there is good education; there are legitimate choices presented: there are significantly fewer abortions sought and outcomes for babies that are born are significantly better.
"Prolife" isn't about babies. It's about power. It's about taking power away from women and giving it to a small elite, the small elite who have already convinced thousands of sympathetic, tenderhearted, sincere, ignorant people to go out and harass and kill for them.
Plain facts.
guess what: getting impregnated is no walk-in-the-park, and it might prove more costly than one thought: think twice, and don't be irresponsible, guys'n'dolls~
@@tinfoilhatter and that's exactly what people learn in countries where they take a sensible, compassionate view of health education and contraception. Check out Netherlands. Abortion isn't a big taboo there, nor is sex education, and they have a trend toward abstention and later onset of sexual activity, and a VERY low abortion rate. Right To Life knows this. They want people to suffer.
I learned this from a former Right To Life campaigner: someone challenged her to do her own research, so she did.
@@tinfoilhatter Yet, if some rich sob gets a girl pregnant, he will make sure she has access to abortion. Meanwhile, he goes to church and claims to be pro-life. Hypocrite.
Bravo
i've noted that those that call themselves right-to-life tend to be pro-death penalty too.
ONE THING I STRONGLY DISAGREE ABOUT IS MEN HAVE NO PLACE OR VOICE IN THIS MATTER. DO NOT STAND OUTSIDE OF THESE CLINICS AND YELL AT THESE YOUNG LADIES.
Agree.
Thanks for capitalizing your words. It made your statement even more stupid
Read The Tiger's Child. Foster care in America is broken. Children are hungry and abused and need ❤ LOVE. There must be a way to stop more babies coming into a world of abuse and no hope. Let's make sure the children we already have........ have support and enough to eat. Poor children in America need HELP AND HOPE AND ❤ LOVE.
Who is taking care of the children of these protestors while they are out there spewing their hatred? Where do these people get the money from to be able to go out and harass every day?