Deaf School Pros and Cons - Why Deaf Children Should Go To Deaf Schools with Warren Keller
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2018
- This video is especially for hearing parents who have a deaf child. This video shares some more information about deaf schools and deaf education in general and also discusses the benefits of sending your deaf child to a school for the deaf as well as the disadvantages compared with sending your deaf child to a mainstream school.
This video features a short interview with a Deaf football coach who himself has attended both deaf schools and mainstream schools- he points out the main differences between deaf schools and mainstream schools and lists a few different pros and cons of Deaf schools. He explains why he strongly believes that deaf children should go to deaf schools.
Approximately 2 or 3 in every 1,000 children here in the United States are born deaf or hard of hearing and most deaf children, more than 90%, are born to hearing parents (nad.org).
There are over 17,000 deaf children in California and there are two schools for the Deaf in California- in northern California, Fremont and in southern California- Riverside, and less than 1,000 of those deaf children attend California School for the Deaf. And nationwide, about 86% of deaf students are in mainstream schools.
The football coach also briefly explains the the risk of not exposing your deaf child to language sooner (after birth, shortly after birth, or shortly after losing hearing due to fever, sickness, etc.) and the importance of having exposure to sign language as early as possible to give the deaf child a better chance of succeeding in academics, school, and in the hearing world.
You might have seen one of these Microsoft ads recently during Super Bowl last year and Winter Olympics earlier this year featuring a Deaf football coach signing with his Deaf football team… that’s the same Deaf football coach I interviewed in this video. :) Links to the ads are at the end of the video description below in case you haven’t seen them yet.
Hope you enjoyed the interview! Let me know what you think or what you learned in the comment section below. :)
Many thanks to CODA Brothers for their help interpreting the interview (with a voiceover). For more information about adding voiceovers to your American Sign Language (ASL) videos or adding ASL to your spoken English videos, visit codabrothers.com. Tell them you found them through Signed With Heart. :)
Also, if you haven’t seen the previous TH-cam video, “Deaf School vs Mainstream - What Are The Differences Between Deaf Schools and Mainstream Schools”, be sure to watch that video too. :) The video features a short campus tour of a deaf school explaining the differences between deaf schools and mainstream schools. Here is the link: • Deaf School vs Mainstr... .
If you have any questions or topics you would like see covered on Signed With Heart in future videos, please comment below and let me know.
Thanks so much for watching! :)
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Here are the links to the Microsoft ads:
Super Bowl 2017:
• Video
Winter Olympics 2018:
• Video
And a newer one released October 2018:
• Video
The Deaf football coach’s football team from 2012 was featured on Sports Illustrated as mentioned in the interview video- link here: www.si.com/high-school/photos... & • Underdogs California ...
** For football fans **
ESPN filmed a special 15 minute long documentary video featuring the Deaf football team in 2015 called, “Silent Light Nights”- really cool, worth a watch!! Link here: www.espn.com/video/clip?id=143...
Last link- in case you’d like to watch a part of the football game that was featured on ESPN, here is the link: • CSD vs Woodland Christ... :)
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Here is a link to the list of deaf schools here in United States including some mainstream schools that have Deaf / Hard-of-Hearing (DHH) programs:
www3.gallaudet.edu/clerc-cente...
Gallaudet University’s Laurent Clerc National Deaf Education Center has more information and resources for hearing parents of deaf and hard of hearing children here:
www3.gallaudet.edu/clerc-cente...
this dude even signs like he's lifting weights.
That's her boyfriend what do you expect lol
hoobly doobly , really? Are they together?
@@thihal123 no
I’ve been learning sign language for about a month now and after watching this video it shows me that I have so so so much to learn because I could only see a few words here and there
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oh man what a life is to keep deaf community survival everywhere...... in 80's in my teenage time I played indoor lacrosse hearing team (w/o interpreter in practice and games I was a good player and my coach was nice I taught myself !) away from dorm on deaf school premise for the evening game in the spring year while I attend at hearing HS (off campus) inter mates like about 30 deaf students in Vancouver B.C. I used to play volleyball, basketball, and soccer with deaf school team but no football, so now deaf school was no longer there anymore (brought out) so deaf students moved to with hearing school.
Great your journey video
Hi Kelly,
Are you from Vancouver? I was looking for a deaf community club here, but couldn't find any. Also, I just started learning ASL, but couldn't find any school programs except for the VCC's which is unfortunately full-time. Can you help me with that-finding community and classes?
Thanks!
I’m only a few minutes into the video, but I chose a deaf school for my daughter, and I know I made the right decision, so I’m excited to finish watching this. My husband is deaf and he was mainstreamed and he struggles with language deprivation from it. My daughter is only three years old and it was hard to send her to school so young, but she comes home every day and I know this is what’s best for her. Thank you for this video. I hope it reaches the hearing parents that need to see it.
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Always liked her LEATHER jacket.
its me again i just wanted to say again you’re such an inspiration to me
Excellent video! Great job setting up the video in the beginning and interviewing 👍. Very professional! This is so inspirational and informative. I like the interpreter voice over. (I wanted to let you know that the volume drops drastically at 11:05.)
I have a friend who's deaf, and we have no problem communicating with him and none of rest of us are deaf
When i was a kid, my hearing parents chose a mainstream school and didn’t want to send me to a deaf school as it’s far. I didn’t know how much an impact of a deaf school could help a d/hh kid and probably would have build up their confidence. I tried a deaf uni but i didn’t know the language though i didn’t stay long due a medical leave. I definitely wish that i couldve gone to a deaf school. I know it’s not too late to learn ASL for my own healing and self confidence and reconnecting with the deaf community.
I am a hearing student at the University of Washington, and since the only Deaf people I know right now are teachers, I use your videos to improve my receptive abilities. Thank you for spreading awareness! :)
I love these kinds of videos, Ashley! I learned some new things from this video. Thank you! Also, I think a voice over is great for this kind of video. If you had two different people voicing for you and Warren Keller that would be really cool, but it's a great video anyways! Keep it up girl! Btw saw this from your insta story. I'm going to add it to mine :)
I just wanted to say thank you! I’ve been learning so much from you and your partner and thanks to you guys I found Ashley which is amazing as well thanks to all of you I can keep learning it’s always angered me that ASL is not taught in school with English it is still if not more considered an American language and so useful for emergency’s or illnesses I completely agree that it’s better for deaf children to go to school for the deaf for their benefit in learning from what’s around them but hearing schools should be teaching so they can communicate with ALL americans love and blessings from the Bay Area
I COMPLETELY AGREE it’s literally why I don’t want my kid in a public school I literally remember less then 10 things I learned but everything else I learned from everyone and everything around me I was raised and still live in a really bad area but I understand why it’s so important to have deaf children understand and BE ABLE to learn (positivity) from everything and everyone around them
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This interview was so cool to watch! Thank you so much for interviewing the coach and having such a much needed conversation about Deaf schools and raising awareness!
i’m so glad you are back i been learning how to do more sigh language and so far i’ve been doing good you help me start out please make more videos
Amazing video 💕
I think there needs to be more Deaf schools in California and some other special programs as well, but sadly I don't see that happening until the state changes some financial priorities around, and changes it's attitude about indoctrinating children. It looks like a good program, but living with family is usually better for kids than boarding school unless the home is bad or the parents won't learn ASL. That being said, parents that keep their Deaf kid at home need to ensure they get the resources and enrichment they need. I'm thinking about this if I become a parent someday. If it turns out someday I have to make it, it would likely be one of the 3 biggest decisions in my life I ever have to make.
That's what I think too- if the parents are not making efforts to learn sign language, it would probably be best for the deaf child to go a deaf school- so that the deaf child would have a better chance of succeeding in school and in the hearing world.
Sean Fortine we had one deaf family from California were shocked when they went to Iowa school for the deaf for events. Their kids fall in love with ISD and hate CSDR because they said it was so lonely there & no events during weekends. California have no money while Iowa have lot of money to support ISD.
Get rid of elite deaf schools
I'm not surprised that other states have better programs. California is badly mismanaged and the state is so long and relatively thin that it's hard to provide regional schools that work for all. I live about a half hour drive (assuming traffic is okay) from CSDR so the families I've met where someone went to school there can treat it almost like a local public school, and it works out well for the whole family. But the state's budget mess and geography makes it hard for people that live far away from CSD or CSDR because boarding school kids far from home can spend up to 8 hours on the road one way if traffic is severe. They seem to provide a decent education, especially given the circumstances, but I don't understand how that makes CSD or CSDR elite though.
Sean Fortine not really. I’ve met plenty of CSDR alumni and they aren’t that smart. They couldn’t fix the house, cars, to make money and etc because of CSDR education isn’t good at all.
Because tooooooo many many students at CSDR.
Kids don’t horseplay? I was kid once and loved to horseplay. I can imagine if I’m in classroom with 30+ students I’ll be fail at CSDR no questions.
Plus CSDR don’t have much of money to spending so reduce on education from any field trips.
Fact is fact.
Real world is all about MONEY and livings. Repair anything yourself than depend someone to repair it for you then your money fly away.
I’m glad that I graduated from ISD, not a elite deaf school. If I went to elite deaf school I wouldn’t own my 800 HP Syclone, own a business, under the roof, and etc.
Sean Fortine I labeled any deaf schools with too many students as elite deaf schools. I went to several elite deaf schools as visiting. Know what they do to us? “Come on moving here and you will love big and strong deaf school blah blah”
We never plan to moving, just visiting.
So they all baiting weakness deaf families to moving there & steal our students even another deaf schools’ students.
ISD lost about 25 students to Indiana SD, Maryland SD, TSD and CSD R/F.
They won’t stop and will keep baiting deaf families from another states.
This IS a conundrum! The problem with one or the other is that in a deaf school there's a lot more focus on learning communication skills as well as the academics. There is also more exposure to the deaf culture. The downside can be that it makes it tougher for them to mainstream into society. This is much different than someone with a physical challenge like cerebral palsy, paralysis, loss of vision and so forth. This ability to communicate is our key to socialization. So far as I'm concerned, the most optimal way to fix this is schools that mainstream including the deaf. Unfortunately, this means changes to the schools that many districts can't afford, especially in today's day and time. The other thing is that it's important for hearing kids to be engaged in the deaf community, at least to a certain extent. Perhaps with the electronics and web that we have today we can do more mainstream kids. The bottom line here is that kids dealing with deafness have to have a good mix of deaf learning as well as deaf culture as well as the culture around them. (Not sure that last sentence makes sense.)
thanks for providing this. super informative!! ;-)
Right?! I've learned so much too! Thanks for watching!! :) Love you, big sis!!
I love this channel
Aw, thanks! Glad you love!! :D
How funny! I knew I recognized the voice over. Coda brothers!
I am The second one! Ashley you are so helpful. You help me to learn this language. Srry for my english.. 💞💞I need more tutorials/we need more tutorials!! 💓💓💓💓
Thanks for being the second one! :-D I will film more tutorials soon! :)
@@signedwithheart yay thanks!
Wow this was so informative!!! I learned so much! I love the voiceover! Thank you! The voice sounds so familiar, is he one of the Coda Brothers???
I'm glad you enjoyed the interview! Thanks for watching!! :) And yes, that's Andy. 😄
thank you for making the videos in 2017 they help a lot im a hearing person but i walked in to my church and saw a deaf seating and people were talking in sign language i was so satisfied and wanted to learn it so i got a little bit down but i just wanted to say thank you
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I'd be curious to see a combination school, so that students would be exposed to deaf culture and could learn to communicate but there'd also be hearing students so that transitioning wouldn't be so difficult for the deaf/HOH students
My opinion my experience I hate mainstream public school almost whole my life. I happy graduated deaf school but not enough cuz I need more depth deaf culture I was overwhelmed deaf school no one guide or helped me. That's problem they missed out understanding my bad experience mainstream school differences. Hey right need more deaf school plus need more deaf Universities like Gally in states Even other countries too. Why not?? I tired of hardships and struggles in hearing world. BORING!!
And AVOID ELITE DEAF SCHOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!
We the small deaf schools need your help!!!
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What do you think about homeschooling a deaf child?
Very few parents chose to homeschool their deaf child. Like any other option, there are pros and cons to homeschooling a deaf child…. it’s a parent’s decision to make for their deaf child. If they chose to homeschool their deaf child, then I encourage them to get involved and stay active in the Deaf community as I think it’s really important for deaf kids to be around other deaf kids. I can’t imagine growing up being the only deaf kid… it’s nice to have deaf friends too.
@@signedwithheart oh okay. I am homeschooled and am learning sign language- I would like to adopt a deaf child someday and I don't like the idea of mainstream school for a deaf child. If I live near a deaf school I will consider sending them there but I would like to try homeschooling them.
Interesting question. If I ever have kids I want to only adopt. It's all theoretical right now so I don't know if they would be deaf or not but I'm open to the possibility.
It's tough. We have two deaf kids and we chose to move to be closer to a deaf school for them. The issue with home schooling is being fluent enough in ASL yourself. Remember: they need language to learn. So if you homeschool a deaf child, they need to learn language from you before you can teach them anything else.
Right now, our kids are being taught ASL at school, and we're just trying to keep ahead of them (they're in kindergarten and grade 1 right now). For us, it would be a huge struggle to homeschool them (especially since we have two older kids who are hearing).
Deaf children born in oral worlds need to learn spoken language like their families. If possible get hearing aids or cochlear implants. If the child can not learn spoken language then I agree with Warren Kaller
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I am Deaf but um, growing up HOH and for the HOH... it is not good for HOH to go to Deaf schools or even residential schools for the Deaf because of the challenges of course work. When I was at a Deaf residential school, of course there were many huge negatives I experienced because away from home, and lack of education level I should fit in. With my high IQ, it was boring. Then I went to public mainstreaming with other Deaf. Again, the only negative was with those same Deaf who caused trouble made against me. To be honest, I am more "hearing" and today in my 50s, I am still "hearing". I wanted a public school in my district but instead was forced to go to the area school where they have Deaf program. I lost more hearing in 2004 but I am still "hearing" in ways of life.
I feel in my opinion, again, MY opinion, mainstreaming is best way to go for because Deaf schools lack other courses of interests for students to experience. When I mainstreamed in high school, they had courses I can experience and used my talents in. The Deaf school I found out did NOT have courses I needed. So, you have to also think about what best for your child. Because today's world is still Hearing and still tough to get into for employment as well as college. I compared my 2 classes that graduated. ALL of us in mainstreamed went to college and got degrees. Those in my former class at Deaf school. only ONE has a degree and others got certificate or went to work. So, you got to weight which can really help in education so I kind of disagree with Warren Keller that Deaf school gives better education. Not true. Teachers in Deaf schools tend to "Aww, poor Deaf child can't do the work, I will give him/her an A+ " I actually talked with teachers at the time I was there admitted to me that. Not kidding! So, again, MY opinion.
It depends on the school and how they teach. The deaf schools here in Ontario, Canada are fantastic. Class sizes are tiny (5 students per teacher in the lower grades, and 8 in high school). They're always trying to teach life skills, not just academics. Our two kids are in kindergarten and grade 1 and they go on field trips every week - sometimes just to the mall so they can learn the language around everyday things. I was chatting with one of the teachers who used to teach grade 8 and he said he once took his class on a field trip to the dump, because the students didn't know what a dump was! That's what I mean: life skills that you actually need to go about life after school.
Everything is taught in ASL, but they are taught to read and write English. And that's the foundation: who cares if you can speak, but if you can read English, you can learn anything.
We tried kindergarten in a mainstream school for our son, and even with accommodations, we saw pretty quickly that he was just falling further behind, which is why we put him in a deaf school.
@@ZenekandSashasHearing ........May I ask what is the level hearing loss of your child?
@@microbiologist50 Sure :) Both kids are profound. Zenek (the older of the two) had better hearing in his left (in the severe range), and we left a hearing aid in that ear at first, but once he got older we found he didn't get any clarity with it. Now they both have cochlear implants on both sides.
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Hey, I’m 15 in Illinois wondering if anyone girl or boy my age who knows Asl or is learning like me wants to chat.
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Ashley Clark... Ray? Voiceover misspoke your last name. :(
Haha yeah I noticed that in the automatic closed captions... oh well. :)
Cool video ever I seen but need more Deaf schools??? No need because Deaf world is small so are the Deaf communities - it is more fun and challenging this way for Deaf children to go out from their comfort zone if you'll say and be more self-reliance without any possibilities of "dependency" and Hearing parents often threw their Deaf children through panic mode if you'll agree, to mainstream school or worst of all, oral school which often stiff their growth like language acquisition in classroom without sign language that it needs to be stopped because of AGBell philosophy on how to raise their Deaf children to suit to their parents' comfort zone like speaking and listening, my goodness you know, right, why they struggle while parent don't? Is that fair to their Deaf children to be inclusive with their Hearing parents through "sloppy or broken English" if you'll agree BUT I speak from the life experience as a Deaf child reared up by parent, one was Hearing and the other is Deaf, well not all went through the same but feel similarities they may say or have. I can collaborate lot of things wrong with this place where we call a home which is America but what Warren Keller said that "it is coming" after interviewed with this awesome reporter on its future in front of dark mirror, the light just dawn not long ago. I think Deaf Grassroot Movement caused the big controversies of any kind of struggles throughout this country that we Deaf people face in America, quite a hard impact on Hearing societies out there often are being bombarded negatives from Deaf communities on many things like accessibility, job and way of life with the hope we have for them Hearings to open their minds to its necessities of developments that helps and enriches the lives of Deaf children at Deaf schools instead of Mainstream, why do Hearing parents gamble with their Deaf Children's lives on success? Truth is that Hearing parents unknowingly set them up for failure, only few got out of the way and live on their own without dependency on parents for help. So that is where and how we Deaf see for our Deaf people especially children, we prepare them in right way like a common "vision", hopefully close enough to be "Deafopia" and ha ha ha, that is far-stretched BUT it can happen ONE DAY! The world will get to see what it is like inside Deafopia where the people both Hearing and Deaf live co-exist with ASL they use daily - like cops sign, firemen, doctors and managers of buildings such as restaurant, movie and hospital, point is everybody sign, of course with a heart like this reporter. Speaking of adding more Deaf Institutes in America, no and it is already established since late 1800's I believe. Most of Deaf institutes oftentimes in America were cut by the Hearings who control everything through suppression when it comes to money and how it was spent and where did the money go to..etc, etc. NOW it is a great time to ask the politicians at the White House and Congress also the governors of each state in America to start making the time to put in more money to cover the Deaf schools in America so let the Deaf Children decide where to attend which Deaf schools they want to enroll and be vital part of the Deaf communities, you know what the word means, annex? Why not let the Deaf children annex their own lives to preferred Deaf school like Model Secondary School for the Deaf in Washington; D.C. on the campus of Gallaudet University or Texas School for the Deaf in Austin or California School for the Deaf in Fremont or Berkeley so on and on. Just keep those "aged" Deaf Institutes in operation because of Deaf Generations attended Deaf Schools in the past, ask the Congress to put in some more funds to cover like restoration of the buildings, upgrade the system, more diverse on education and hire Deaf and Hearing teachers who use ASL to make big differences in their lives being inclusive in all.
Yes parents know best. But if it were true they would know that a Deaf child would do better at a school for Deaf. The pressure from hearing children would drive a Deaf child insane. A lot of that reason is because hearing people don’t UNDERSTAND DEAF PEOPLE. and who is to blame the child or parent that don’t teach their children to be better people. U c Deaf children Deaf schools.
You two make an adorable couple. Both look like you’re flirting.
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Ashley Clark got slammed harder by Warren Keller after gave him her biased opinions about going to the deaf school will be less achievement than going to the mainstream school. Then she immediately changed her opinion and wished there was a deaf school where she can go. Her opinions have never changed since 2006 but glad that Mr. Keller slapped her with a few true statements so she can stop thinking the deaf school negatively.
I have a question: do you finally realize that the praying will not heal deaf people's abilities to hear? I know that Rhema Bible Training College's doctrine is truly terrible and obviously, a false teaching.
Ashley, I am really glad that you have decided to step out and asked questions about the deaf school. I hope you will finally have a better perspective toward the deaf education and deaf culture. Your thoughts/attitude toward the deaf school in the past was the reason why many deaf schools are closed because of those "ignorant" people who do not know the true facts.
Good job, Ashley! Looking forward to seeing your new perspective toward the deaf community, culture, and school.
Slapped? CSD simply displayed what they do there. No one "slapped" anyone. Are you sure we are watching the same video?
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@@seanfortine2707 not slapped... slammed (pushed)