If the sonic games are any indication of how the movie will go....you'll have entire cinema rooms of people screaming at the top of their lungs "UNAVOIDABLE CHIN MOVE!!!"
My God. If someone put a gun to my head and told me to play this game to completion, i'd probably toss the Wii-mote on the floor and look them straight in the eyes.
I quit this game for a solid 2 years and when I was rummaging through old games of mine I picked it back up and completed the game through. I gotta say... THIS GAME REALLY IS SHIT
It's weird watching this game seeing as how I grew up with it and seeing how bad It really is I used to think it was the coolest shit but no it really sucks
Please Continue What did you expect? It was made by half of the same team that made Sonic 06. It was a rush job to get SOMETHING out for the new Wii at the time. This game was doomed from the beginning.
It's a game that had mild potential that was completely squandered due to being a side project. You could also look at this game as the reason '06 is well... '06, and not "Sonic the Hedgehog"
@@koofablah Well seems to me like you get that when you fail the level so it is bascially just a "Ohh didn't finish the level? well we will mutiply it by 0.3 aka give you 30% of the overall score you would have normally called it but don't want to seem like we are punishing you so we will make it seem like it is a bonus thing..despite it not being one at all!"
Naw. Admittedly I love this game, but I know the controls are pretty bad even though it is possible to get used to them. And plus, people give the storybook series crap because they don't put much time into discovering everything the game has to offer.
If they did finish the game, there would be another boss which is worse than the dragon with the unavoidable chin move... plus there's like 10 areas in the game with loads of levels and bosses it makes progressing without a guide really hard. The game is so shitty I don't think I want them to continue it, especially because I've grown up as a sonic fan lmao
Lyrics to the song (Seven Rings in Hands): Make beliefs reborn Myths in mind rethought Question all that's known Legends blurred and torn Make beliefs reborn (Make beliefs reborn) Myths in mind rethought (Myths in mind rethought) Question all that's known (Question all that's known) Legends blurred and torn (Legends blurred and torn) (Blurred and torn) No such thing as fate for those who speed A path out of time instead of just livin' it So many things erased before they begin Hopes un-dream instead of what could have been Fortune fades like words in the sand Just like that it's nothin' at all, just seams Nothin' at all, just seams(Yeah) Fortune shines with seven in hand Back to fact make real of all that seems Make real of all that seems Seven Rings in Hand speed through nights with feet in sand Seven Rings in Hand wonders all under command Seven Rings in Hand wild with just one single hand Seven Rings in Hand arrowed hearts catch fire now Make beliefs reborn (Make beliefs reborn) Myths in mind rethought (Myths in mind rethought) Question all that's known (Question all that's known) Legends blurred and torn No such thing as an arrow through who dreams Hopes may burden but forever last to give in So many things need a push or pull to begin Un-free to move unless another hand gets in Be it all the same, it's never the same Just like that it's nothin' it all just means Nothin' it all just means If all as is then it's never as is Back to fact make real of all that seems Make real of all that seems Seven Rings in Hand speed through nights with feet in sand Seven Rings in Hand wonders all under command Seven Rings in Hand wild with just one single hand Seven Rings in Hand arrowed hearts catch fire now Memories that dance (Memories that dance) Fairy tales in trance (Fairy tales in trance) Know what to believe (Know what to believe) Nothin's up to chance (Nothin's up to chance) Make beliefs reborn (Make beliefs reborn) Myths in mind rethought (Myths in mind rethought) Question all that's known (Question all that's known) Legends blurred and torn Seven Rings in Hand speed through nights with feet in sand Seven Rings in Hand wonders all under command Seven Rings in Hand wild with just one single hand Seven Rings in Hand arrowed hearts catch fire now Seven Rings in Hand... Nights with feet in sand... Seven Rings in Hand... Seven Rings in Hand... Make beliefs reborn (Make beliefs reborn) Myths in mind rethought (Myths in mind rethought) Question all that's known (Question all that's known) Legends blurred and torn Seven seas in hand Speed of sound through sands All our hopes and plans In one single hand!
I really like this compilation, thanks for all the additional comments and stuff you put in there. I really do hope they'll finish The Secret Rings someday. It's already been too long since their last Sonic game, and I love it so much how Arin love-hates them.
23:50 I vividly remember renting this game from the library when I was little and not being able to get past this part because I could not home attack for the fucking life of me and because the enemies wouldn't spawn in at the right time ( like it did Arin's first run ) So in a fit of rage I threw my Wii remote across the room and broke it and then had to wait til Christmas to use my gift money to buy a new wii remote Never played another sonic game
I remember playing this age earlier in life and becoming so enraged by it, my mom would come in and yell at me, "Jesus Christ, just go back to playing Guitar Hero or something. Or better yet go play with ur friends" Lol she thought i had friends 😂😂😢
This was the first sonic game I ever played, I thought this was the worst f***ing franchise, so it was my last, then I saw how bad it could get with sonic 06, this is what ruined the franchise for me......I realized my mistake after playing Sonic CD after getting it on ps3, I was conflicted.
@@KBBebop Well yea of cource, I also played sonic 2, sonic CD, and sonic mania, but Sonic and the secret rings was my FIRST sonic game, it gave a bad impression to me.
It is a pretty bad franchise. When 4/5 games are fucking garbage then it isn't too much to say that the franchise in on itself is garbage. I understand people loving a few of the games but why do so many people get exstremely offended the second you say the sonic franchise is shit..because it is..a pearl or two in a dogshit doesn't make the rest of the dogshit worthy of picking up..Grab the pearls and leave the rest of the shit..
11:20 Its kinda weird how on point that bit is if you see the final cutscene before the final boss. For all their goofs, the Grumps are scaringly good at making accidental predictions.
Sonic and the Secret Rings: a game with some potential thoroughly ruined by the fact you typically won't get any of the good stuff until after the end game.
As a kid I liked this game a decent amount. I got older and realized that was only because of the music appealing to me, and the party gamemodes working for me and my siblings *as kids*
Ok fuck man ive GOT to put this into words!!! I fucking LOVE that thing Dan very frequently does where every single time arin bites it in the game he yells out something extremely positive and happy like “There you go!!” Or “Success!!” 😂 Ita so fucking funny and pure at the same time 😂
It's funny because your captions telling Arin to customize his rings are like me yelling at my monitor while watching him ignore the sword customization with the blacksmith in Black Knight lmao
20:45 it KILLS me that Dan is reading a review that talks about Sonic going fast, and then the level starts, and Sonic has the slowest god damn walk I've ever seen.
The lukewarm reviews for this game are just more proof that useless mainstream review outlets will give at least a 6/10 to any game that has a functioning start screen. What a joke.
My sister and I grew up with this game and there was one level we could never get past and just gave up on. That being said, we still enjoyed the game a lot. Not because of the main story though but we loved the multiplayer games
Wow they did sub-mussions. For me, that was the point where I thought the game is bs and I stopped playing. Where the game expects you to do stuff it wasn't build for.
My review of Sanic and the Scrings: 0/10 not enough surprise jazz
Sir Gallade the Noble DA DA DA DA DA DA DA!!!!!!
*Jazz music stops*
@@octotune4044 *_JAZZ MUSIC INTENSIFIES_*
Unleashed entered the chat
RRRA DA DAA DAA, DAAAAAAAA DA!
It’s Sanoc! With his friend Tools!
Sanoc and Tools win, they realize friendship is more important.
why aRE WE DOING THIS?!?
A black master splinter - L I F E
It's Sonk and Talls
@@thedarklrd6714 Tules
Okay but the story book series are literally just Sonic's self-insert fanfictions
Now that's meta.
Yoda voice: I agree
Verily, thou speakst true. These be but the fantasies of the fleet-footed forest critter.
"joke's on you, we made it stupid and embarrassing on purpose"
Pretty much. Not that I didnt enjoy them but holy shit
Very nice touch showing the actual reviews that Danny was reading
Yeah.. except for he couldnt help but stroke sonic team's baby peen and slip in tiny praise for another pile of shit garbage.
@@Amitioushi just his nature i guess..
"No, I'd rather die"
If the sonic games are any indication of how the movie will go....you'll have entire cinema rooms of people screaming at the top of their lungs "UNAVOIDABLE CHIN MOVE!!!"
“WHAT IS THIS?!?! WHAT IS MY LIFE?!?!”
YeetSkeet People would bring cabinets just to break them.
U were saying?
"OHHHHHHHHHHHH SONIC OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SONIC!"
Seriously tho, if it did, I would've left screaming unavoidable chin move...
Eh. It was pretty good.
a mix between thanos and fred durst so......Thurst?
Franos Thurst
I Thurst for a better game. This game is a desert of shitty controls.
Tales: "I dont feel so good, mr sonic...."
I was gonna say Majin Buu and Fred Durst.
Quench Me Daddy
Arin: "Would you like to try this ?"
Dan: "No, I'd rather die"
They quit this game at around the same spot I quit playing this game.
I quit after the tutorial levels, thankfully I rented it so i didn't pay full price for it
I beat this game when I was eight lol
I think i got a bit further than they did, i'm not willing to hook up my nintendo wii to find out just for this game though.
PheonixKingSokka I couldn’t even make it that far 😂
The story got so boring and i quit literally after 2 stages lmao i just did the minigames
Are you ready for more butt rock?!?!?
HELL YA!!
36:15
that was amazing. You finally overcome the double cactus, them BOOM, SURPRISE SECOND CACTUS!
Is... is this an SAO Abridged refrence?
@@jericalocke9136 If so, it wasn't intentional. I've never seen it
My God.
If someone put a gun to my head and told me to play this game to completion, i'd probably toss the Wii-mote on the floor and look them straight in the eyes.
I mean you might just die from age or boredom before they kill you.
>implying that sonic fans don't all want to die anyway
Lol XD
Dih
D-Dih
Dih
…
“Do it.”
This game truly is 90% tutorials...
ZuulDovah When there is a whole map dedicated to tutorials and the controls are the main complain then you know you have a severe problem.
So it’s a gen 8 Pokémon game? I mean both are 90% tutorial and both are unfinished & rushed out for christmas
Oh, are you talking about THIS game? I thought you meant MaL Dream Team...
is the game generally hated?
@@creamfennec1988 It's a Sonic game. Half of all people hate it, and the other half love it and hate the first half for hating it.
I love how every time Arin makes up lyrics to the butt rock tune, it's always slightly off key...just makes it funnier
``the direct midpoint between thanos and Fred durst``
Sonic I don't feel so good
This joke killed me.
13:20 one of my all time favorite lines Arin has ever said. it gets me everytime without fail
This game is a guilty pleasure for me. I know it's terrible, but I loved it as a kid. Still funny af though.
stickytim64 same here lMaO
same. but this kept me away from sonic games until i hit my 20s. talk about bad first impressions
Bro this game is worse than sonic DX
I hate the controls in this game more than 06
Played this game a couple of months ago, give it a 6/10 better than forces
19:55 omg you can hear sonics footsteps and its actually really funny for some reason
Ha! That is funny
U'm u suppose to hear it!😌
*i'm fuckin outta here*
"Master of the ring"
Bet you ten bucks that's the name of a smutty Sonic fanfiction.
TheBritishWolf i’m gonna be a brave soldier i’ll report back soon
fortunately, (or unfortunately idk) i have seen no such thing although there are a lot of fanfics (which is no surprise)
@@phoenix-ultimatedumbass1276 not all heros wear capes.
@@mitchramey5052 thank you thank you
I quit this game for a solid 2 years and when I was rummaging through old games of mine I picked it back up and completed the game through. I gotta say...
THIS GAME REALLY IS SHIT
I just realized Sonic just put the ring on his glove. Djinn would have maybe won if he just took off Sonic's glove.
Yeah, but you know, I know, and SEGA knows that the fetish squad would ruin that decision for them.
Nobody wins when Sonics glove comes off.
21:26 As soon as I saw "Don't break the jar" all the memories of this one corner came screaming back at the same time.
"We are..... Guns and Roses...!"
That killed me.
It's weird watching this game seeing as how I grew up with it and seeing how bad It really is I used to think it was the coolest shit but no it really sucks
For the first time ever, I agree with Arin when he says "This game is hard to control"
Most of these new Sonic games feel like they were developed for a completely different character and Sonic was just added at the last minute.
They tend to shit on sonic games more than necessary, but I'm just gonna say it:
This game is objectively and indisputably GOD AWFUL
Please Continue What did you expect? It was made by half of the same team that made Sonic 06. It was a rush job to get SOMETHING out for the new Wii at the time. This game was doomed from the beginning.
It's a game that had mild potential that was completely squandered due to being a side project. You could also look at this game as the reason '06 is well... '06, and not "Sonic the Hedgehog"
@@kamanira Fair point, but I'd rather not look at this game at all
@@koofablah Well seems to me like you get that when you fail the level so it is bascially just a "Ohh didn't finish the level? well we will mutiply it by 0.3 aka give you 30% of the overall score you would have normally called it but don't want to seem like we are punishing you so we will make it seem like it is a bonus thing..despite it not being one at all!"
Naw. Admittedly I love this game, but I know the controls are pretty bad even though it is possible to get used to them. And plus, people give the storybook series crap because they don't put much time into discovering everything the game has to offer.
If they did finish the game, there would be another boss which is worse than the dragon with the unavoidable chin move... plus there's like 10 areas in the game with loads of levels and bosses it makes progressing without a guide really hard. The game is so shitty I don't think I want them to continue it, especially because I've grown up as a sonic fan lmao
Sonic: "W-What did I do!?😢
Me: "Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, does that ring a bell?😠
no bc at the end of the game everything that just happened got reseted so nothing happened
@@Ahrix54 yeah, but the game still exists, so it counts.
Your comment is pathetic
41:05 that game already exists. DLC Quest, a game where you buy everything as dlc, including the ability to go left.
Lyrics to the song (Seven Rings in Hands):
Make beliefs reborn
Myths in mind rethought
Question all that's known
Legends blurred and torn
Make beliefs reborn (Make beliefs reborn)
Myths in mind rethought (Myths in mind rethought)
Question all that's known (Question all that's known)
Legends blurred and torn (Legends blurred and torn) (Blurred and torn)
No such thing as fate for those who speed
A path out of time instead of just livin' it
So many things erased before they begin
Hopes un-dream instead of what could have been
Fortune fades like words in the sand
Just like that it's nothin' at all, just seams
Nothin' at all, just seams(Yeah)
Fortune shines with seven in hand
Back to fact make real of all that seems
Make real of all that seems
Seven Rings in Hand speed through nights with feet in sand
Seven Rings in Hand wonders all under command
Seven Rings in Hand wild with just one single hand
Seven Rings in Hand arrowed hearts catch fire now
Make beliefs reborn (Make beliefs reborn)
Myths in mind rethought (Myths in mind rethought)
Question all that's known (Question all that's known)
Legends blurred and torn
No such thing as an arrow through who dreams
Hopes may burden but forever last to give in
So many things need a push or pull to begin
Un-free to move unless another hand gets in
Be it all the same, it's never the same
Just like that it's nothin' it all just means
Nothin' it all just means
If all as is then it's never as is
Back to fact make real of all that seems
Make real of all that seems
Seven Rings in Hand speed through nights with feet in sand
Seven Rings in Hand wonders all under command
Seven Rings in Hand wild with just one single hand
Seven Rings in Hand arrowed hearts catch fire now
Memories that dance (Memories that dance)
Fairy tales in trance (Fairy tales in trance)
Know what to believe (Know what to believe)
Nothin's up to chance (Nothin's up to chance)
Make beliefs reborn (Make beliefs reborn)
Myths in mind rethought (Myths in mind rethought)
Question all that's known (Question all that's known)
Legends blurred and torn
Seven Rings in Hand speed through nights with feet in sand
Seven Rings in Hand wonders all under command
Seven Rings in Hand wild with just one single hand
Seven Rings in Hand arrowed hearts catch fire now
Seven Rings in Hand...
Nights with feet in sand...
Seven Rings in Hand...
Seven Rings in Hand...
Make beliefs reborn (Make beliefs reborn)
Myths in mind rethought (Myths in mind rethought)
Question all that's known (Question all that's known)
Legends blurred and torn
Seven seas in hand
Speed of sound through sands
All our hopes and plans
In one single hand!
Not bad tbh
Hmm... I think they have it too much credit by saying it was done in a day. I'd give it 2 hours, at most, given the lyrics.
@@RabblesTheBinxHonestly the song would be way more epic if 1. The game wasn't rushed and 2. You didn't hear it ALL THE TIME
Today on this concept might be neat in the context of literally anything other than Sonic
23:33 um...dan? you feelin alright there?
A bit of arin must have slipped in danny
I still maintain that "look! It's the direct midpoint between Thanos and Fred Durst" was the best comedically timed line ever
1:14 “Oh, look! The direct midpoint between Thanos and Fred Durst!” _I’m fucking_ *DYING* 😂
I really like this compilation, thanks for all the additional comments and stuff you put in there. I really do hope they'll finish The Secret Rings someday. It's already been too long since their last Sonic game, and I love it so much how Arin love-hates them.
No problem man and yeah I want them to finish the game too
23:50 I vividly remember renting this game from the library when I was little and not being able to get past this part because I could not home attack for the fucking life of me and because the enemies wouldn't spawn in at the right time ( like it did Arin's first run )
So in a fit of rage I threw my Wii remote across the room and broke it and then had to wait til Christmas to use my gift money to buy a new wii remote
Never played another sonic game
That’s fierce
The real Secret Rings were the bad games we stopped playing along the way.
It's Sanoak! With his friend (pause) tols
Why aRE WE DOING THIS???
I think there should be an 'a' in tols
finally a sonic game on grumps
noodler doodler *Story Mode*
The best of Sonic and the Bluuuuuuuuuu- Rings!
Sonic and the Secret Knight+Sonic and the Black Rings
I remember playing this age earlier in life and becoming so enraged by it, my mom would come in and yell at me, "Jesus Christ, just go back to playing Guitar Hero or something. Or better yet go play with ur friends"
Lol she thought i had friends 😂😂😢
mom you dumbass sonic fans dont have friends
I really want them to continue this series.
Me too, and want Dan to read Sonic Fanfiction during the playthrough.😣
"Andd KILLING IT!"
'oh no!'
I snorted
I still wish for sonic heroes
This was the first sonic game I ever played, I thought this was the worst f***ing franchise, so it was my last, then I saw how bad it could get with sonic 06, this is what ruined the franchise for me......I realized my mistake after playing Sonic CD after getting it on ps3, I was conflicted.
Have you played the very first Sonic the Hedgehog, the one on Sega Genesis? I think THAT was really the only good time for the franchise.
@@KBBebop Well yea of cource, I also played sonic 2, sonic CD, and sonic mania, but Sonic and the secret rings was my FIRST sonic game, it gave a bad impression to me.
@@J_dnvg Sorry to hear that :( Hopefully those other games gave you a better time.
It is a pretty bad franchise. When 4/5 games are fucking garbage then it isn't too much to say that the franchise in on itself is garbage.
I understand people loving a few of the games but why do so many people get exstremely offended the second you say the sonic franchise is shit..because it is..a pearl or two in a dogshit doesn't make the rest of the dogshit worthy of picking up..Grab the pearls and leave the rest of the shit..
If it didnt use motion controls it'd be at least a solid 6/10
I still love this game past the 3rd level
11:20 Its kinda weird how on point that bit is if you see the final cutscene before the final boss.
For all their goofs, the Grumps are scaringly good at making accidental predictions.
I watched this specifically for the 'wiped clean' thing. xD
11:51 lawl agreed
41:04
It's called Evoland, Arin. And you and Dan would LOVE it.
I was thinking the same thing, actually
18:35 Oh my god, he's turning into avi.
first reaction: its being destroyed
second reaction: oh its a rocket ship?
third reaction: oh no um...its a magic floating island
22:08 In the words of Lewis of the Yogscast, ‘Are you mad?’
That Thanos/Fred Durst comment made me belly laugh. Thanks for that.
One of the things I love watching these two. Always expect a good laugh
Sonic and the Secret Rings: a game with some potential thoroughly ruined by the fact you typically won't get any of the good stuff until after the end game.
I don't think potential means what you think it means.
@SpectacularNub Then why the fuck are you here?
And the horrible clunky controls.
It's not even that, if the controls weren't such ass, this would be a pretty solid game
"maybe you shouldn't be going so fast."
Oh Dan.
I wish Dan read some more Sonic Fanfiction during this playthrough.😔
Not gonna lie. This was my first sonic game and I liked it.
👁👄👁
"Sonic.... legion? Sonic... war?"
Sonic war...
Sonic war never changes...
As a kid I liked this game a decent amount. I got older and realized that was only because of the music appealing to me, and the party gamemodes working for me and my siblings *as kids*
Did SEGA really think these broken controls were acceptable? That takes balls.
I just realized something, in the beginning sonic says 'how about a hankerchif for starters " ,this game pridected sonic boom
Surprised as heck Ganon was in this game. XD
Ok fuck man ive GOT to put this into words!!!
I fucking LOVE that thing Dan very frequently does where every single time arin bites it in the game he yells out something extremely positive and happy like “There you go!!” Or “Success!!” 😂 Ita so fucking funny and pure at the same time 😂
So... anyone else notice hot Meg at 38:49, or am I going insane?
John Smith I bet you think you're really funny
Why, in so many Sonic games, is the plot always pushed forward by a mysterious woman?
It's funny because your captions telling Arin to customize his rings are like me yelling at my monitor while watching him ignore the sword customization with the blacksmith in Black Knight lmao
IT'S SANOC! WITH HIS FRIEND TAALS!
20:45 it KILLS me that Dan is reading a review that talks about Sonic going fast, and then the level starts, and Sonic has the slowest god damn walk I've ever seen.
'The direct midpoint between Thanos and Fred Durst' is fucking hilarious. I love Dan.
I'm really sad they stopped this, because this game was a significant part of my childhood. Was it dogshit? Of course. But I loved it.
Sonic games are either really good or really bad.
There are really good Sonic games?
@@ksuvana some, not much. The good ones are really good though.
Frankly I think most of them are just ok. This one blows. So does Boom. Every other one is just kinda harmless
The side scroller Sonic Games are the good games. I haven’t seen a good 3D Sonic game yet... 🤣
@@garou417 u can't see them u gotta play them
Remember folks! THIS came out at the same time as Sonic '06!
WHY can't you break the jars? 😂
I spent way too much of my preteens playing this damn game and the party mode attached
Honestly, Party Mode was more fun than the main game. I spent a lot more time playing Party Mode after I gave up at Sand Oasis.
Party mode was so fun
"INFINITY GAUNTLETS UP INFINITY GAUNTLETS DOWN"
god i’m having flashbacks to playing this when i was a kid💀
4:15 one day game grumps will be over... and all we will have left will be memories
I remember when I was like 6 or 7 trying to get past the tutorials even though I was too dumb to even jump
The lukewarm reviews for this game are just more proof that useless mainstream review outlets will give at least a 6/10 to any game that has a functioning start screen. What a joke.
I actually really like the way sonic is expressed in this game, it's a bit more serious and I feel like it gives him more character
13:21 this needs to be in a sonic sequelitus
the evil dude looks like if Groose did a fusion dance with Ganondorf and then watched too much prince of persia.
A game where you have to unlock everything? Oh Arin have I got a game for you
I find your added sassy remarks hilarious.
Arin: plays Bornik the GregDog games to torture himself
Also Arin: Doesn’t play generators or rainbows because they’re “boring”
"this game has a little something for everyone, you truly feel like sonic the hedgehog"
-IGN
5:23 Use the Jump Dash to reach the goal!
Can't wait for Arin to not use the jump dash and then blame the game for it!
0:42 I thought it just looked like the palace of Agrabah sitting on top of a weird tower in the middle of another city.
no matter how bad this game is it will always have a special place in my heart
just a 7 episode series and it has 45 minutes of laughter
I’m so glad this is what sonic thinks about my culture
12:04 - 12:41 Game Grumps presents "WIPED CLEAN" some highlight quotes include..."Arin, please...I beg you." AND MORE
"Life's a fuck, death's a fuck"
- Tolls the Faüx
I've always wanted to see them play generations. It's my favorite sonic game.
Why is the villain a perfect mix of Thanos and Kratos with a smidge of a weirdly-humanoid-demon who had the voice and personality of Gaston? Like WTF
“Luckily I have the New Ring, with which I will raise an army of Uruks!”
-Sonic in the next one they make
God i hope they continue this. I played and completed it when I was 10 and (depending on your stand point) it gets either infinitely worse/better.
0:47 I was drinking water
was
i may have had rose colored glasses for this game bc it was my first Sonic game that *I* owned, but that song kicks ass still to this day
My sister and I grew up with this game and there was one level we could never get past and just gave up on.
That being said, we still enjoyed the game a lot. Not because of the main story though but we loved the multiplayer games
Wow they did sub-mussions. For me, that was the point where I thought the game is bs and I stopped playing. Where the game expects you to do stuff it wasn't build for.