In some ways definitely, but even this video crams as much well-delivered, salient knowledge into 7:19 as most good videos cram into 20 minutes. A lot of effort was put into videos of this DIY King era, and it shows. Perhaps before he started getting lots of views he couldn't afford a better camera and editing software? I don't care though, I almost prefer these old videos to his newer content, though I do love the more laid-back, expansive, and personal nature of it.
Just a heads up. When drilling plastic like the planter boxes and things of that thickness, you will have MUCH nicer holes if you use a hole saw and run it backwards. True story. Give it a try on an old bucket lid first if you are suspicious of the advice. I promise once you try it you will never spade bit plastic again.
Just a few minor points, the powerhead will be fine deeper in the tank, although it makes the vertical pipe longer the pump is under the pressure of the water above it so should not be affected flow wise. A better type of cutter to use to drill through the plastic is a device called a hole saw, they make a nice clean job and will not scratch the surrounding area. The hole saw has a pilot drill surrounded by a ring which looks a little like a pastry cutter.
Omg this is exactly the filter that my dad has been using for the last 10 - 15 years. I just got in the hobby for like 2 years and i always wonder if my dad filter is ever used by somebody else. Its good to know that this type exists. Thank you joey!
Built this. Works a champ. I would highly HIGHLY recommend silicone sealing those bulkheads. Mine developed pinhead leaks around the seal and no matter how tightly things were made, it invariably would start leaking within a day. With a silicon seal + the bulkheads no more leaking. :-)
Really informative video, it's much better and secure to use bulkheads for inflow and outflow. I used silicone to seal the hose and it is working fine so far. I will definitely use bulkheads if I ever get any leaks or if I want to build anymore overhead filters in future.
I know that these are older videos. but I love watching them. when I was a kid, I loved having a fish tank. they mostly consisted of cheap fish, and cheesy decor. but now that I'm an adult, your videos have taught me a lot. and as soon as I move into a place with more room, you can bet I'll be coming back to your videos for reference.
I built mine using an old CD storage plastic box for 52 CDs. It works really well and since it's the correct size I could use drilled CD covers as dividers. It's currently filtering my 10 and 5 gallon tanks :)
Great stuff again sir. I have an overhead filter setup on one of my tanks. If I can add to the topic, I transformed it in a grow bed similar to the aquaponic systems using lava rocks. The plants will eat the bad stuff from the water hopefully, but also, it look nice with foliage on top of the tank.
Used this to make my own above tank sump with my own twist to it. So far it is working well. Thanks for the video it really helped me think out side the box.
This works great, I will admit I was not keen on this idea at first. My wife talked me into building it and put over the turtle pond ( she has a red eared slider ( 8 inches and growing )) Well a few weeks later the pond looks better and we just put plants on the filter and added mosquito eating fish to the pond. Added one 5 inch pleco and a Golden Chinese Algae eater that is 4 inches long both from tank in the house ( had to move him or her because it was hurting the other fish in the tank. ) Now 12 weeks later the filter and the plants and the pond are doing good. I will tell more about this with out question! From my wife and I, thank your for the video.
Excalibur your welcome, I have had the filter now almost 6 months and the water clear as a bell. I did put duck weed in my pond that helped huge w algae blooms too.
Excalibur I did recently just put up a video on my TH-cam channel, it’s the first one I’ve ever done. You can see my pond and the set up there. Pardon for the video it’s not that great....
I live in Taiwan and I've noticed tons of people use similar filters here (commercial versions), though maybe more like a wet/dry filter than an actual sump. In fact many fish stores ONLY sell these types of filters for larger tanks. I was wondering if they were any good cuz I was thinking of setting up a tank sometime soon.
2023 AND ALTHOUGH JOEY'S VIDEO WERE TOP OF THE LINE BACK IN THESE DAYS, THEY STILL HOLD UP AND EVEN SURPASS OTHER CREATOR'S OF AQUARIUM CONTENT PRESENTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😎 🐟 🐠 🐡 🦈 🌊 And his present content is years ahead of the rest! His stuff that's out nowadays is currently residing in 2029!!!! As in relation to his peers!
Just used this idea to make a mini-overhead-sump out of a plastic flowerpot for my 36 gallon tank. Cost a total of $7.00. Don't really have the room to add a canister filter, so adding this in addition to my HOB filter should help dramatically. Thanks for the ideas, and please keep them coming! :)
An added bonus of a sump is your cats can have a nice drink of filtered water :D I had a sump driving my smaller tanks for plant cuttings without a lid and couldn't understand why in the hell so much water evaporated... Remember lids for your sumps if you have cats :D
You are an excellent instructor. However, it would be nice if you included a detailed parts list both in the comments (so I can print it out and bring it to the store) and as a "picture" in the video (so I don't have to scroll down to the comments to follow along as you go over it).
hello iv watch all your diy video and I think there the best iv use most off your ideas now iv come to a problem I have a 2ft long by 4ft high tank and I put a pump at the bottom of the tank with pipe going to the top to go throw the filtration and the pipe split do you think I can use electrical tap to fix it back on it holds but im not shore if it good for the fish
Great video. I'm planning to build a small fishroom in my basement ad this is an idea I've been playing with for filtration. Nice simple execution of the idea. Thank you.
This is awesome . The next day after I saw this vid, I've made this sump. Since then, it works just awesome and the water is crystal !!! Thank you for this great idea ;)
@@whogotbarztv6349 Well, I used it for about an year and it did it's job quite well. After that I switched to a canister filter because I allso upgraded to a bigger aquarium. The downside of this sump system si the constant running water nois, and when you have to clean the tank and the sump is in the way, it can get quite messy, taking the sump away. It's a goog system, but not a permanent solution. Good Luck!
Great concept. A few questions though. 1) Since we don't see the whole project in actual application, how did you address surface skimming as opposed to drawing the raw water from below the surface line? 2) Using filter material boosts nitrates. For a reef application, I would think chemical media such as carbon and a Po4 scrubber would be a better choice? 3) naturally, a HOB protein skimmer is a must, correct? Thanks for a good presentation.
Hello! I think it's pretty amazing what you build! This is in my opinion the most needed is something which is useful in the winter air pump is not working because of a power outage! Thank you!
well i think i can do this with one of those plastic food storage containers, and keep the lid snapped on it as well. since you made this vid, window boxes are $15. i don't see the need to have a 2' long container when 8 or 10 inches should work. i'll just leave the heater in the tank, and maybe use a pvc L fitting instead of 2 bulkheads as the return. i plan using some filter floss and a bag of charcoal. thanks for the ideas.
Very cool idea and it looks like a very simple build. I appreciate the info, boss. My only concern is how well it works and how large it needs to be to suit my needs. Kinda like the example you gave in the canister build. 1ft = 25gal, 2ft = 50gal, etc, etc...
I'm going through your filter playlist to get ideas for my 35 and oh man you look so different! I know it's been almost 5 years since you posted this, but man it's great to see you still have the same passion as ever, just a little bit better at talking to the camera :3
All together because everything was on clearance I spent 15 usd. Thank you so much . I've got 6 big happy koi . :) I am using a large sump pump made for ponds but I was able to slow the flow down with a plastic ball valve on the bulk head .
I have a 120 gallon tank with no room underneath and walls on both ends of the tank,this idea is perfect but is it big enough......if not could I just build more than one. also, could I go about little higher where I'm not on the glass with a better pump and which pump would you recommend...........thanks,I've spent the last three days looking for this idea.....and any other suggestions are more than welcomed,...my tank 48×23×25
I'm in the process of putting this together. Waiting for some filter media I purchased online. I'm going to combine this idea with your water bottle filter idea, and plant a Pothos plant into the filter media in the sump, so it will filter the nitrates as well, and have a great looking plant over the top of my canopy. I love this idea!! Thanks, your ideas and video's are the best!!
B Sammy Too funny. I thought I was being so original when I came up with this. I used lava rock as a medium, a Maxijet powerhead, and bulkhead/drainback hardware from the local hydroponics shop. scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10710794_10204644472291141_2332663413163361679_n.jpg?oh=85aed3ca4294573dd8ab8136bc295ff3&oe=55E8A430
I've been thinking on doing this for a while.... just for the 'different' approach and I thought a waterfall kind of effect when it drops back into the tank.... nicely done Joseph ;)
You don't have to place the powerhead near top of the aquarium to get maximum lift. A powerhead will always have the same lift capacity no matter it's depth. You can place one 1 foot below the surface and one at the bottom of the ocean and they will both lift the same height above the water surface. The only losses a deeper pump may have is restrictions in piping diminishing the flow rate at a given height, but that won't be a concern for a pump by adding, at most, 2 foot of hose in an aquarium.
Jokes aside, this is over of the better videos, if not thebest, I've seen yet. Very professional, and informative. You're normally hyped and excited. Good to see you have a serious side too.... Other than when your arowana passed.
The lift the power head has to provide isn't measured from the pump, it's measured from the surface of the tank. Placing the power head near the surface is the same as placing it at the bottom.
Joey I know it's a late question, but I was wondering about the weight of the sump. I recently got a 55 gallon in 10 mm glass, and without the water the sump weighs approx 3 kgs, I am unsure about the weight the aquarium can take.
Big fan here. Thanks to your videos im starting a freshwater 46 bow front aquarium! The hardest part was convincing my significant other to get the tank. :-)I was wondering if any tried this? I would like to know how many gallons the one joey made can support.any feedback would be great
I did this build I loved it but I ended up having to take it down because water would spill over and it was just causing to much water to spill if I forgot to change out the filter floss my pump was very strong so any resistance the water would start the spray up not a lot but the sprays would build up and start to drip down the back of the tank I try end putting a cover on it but I couldn't get a good seal and water would get out through what ever opening but I love how good this filtered my tank I wanted to see if you could do an updated recharged version of this sump build if it's possible to improve this version the one thing I think I did wrong was I use acrylic instead of the lighting defuser egg crate to place the filter floss on and as well the window seal planter box you use here they do not sell anymore around my area they all have that false bottom that pops out I had to silicone the hell outa it I finally had to get the black insert for it.
In my pond filter of a similar design I used some plastic baskets to hold my filter floss. I used a bit more and while my pond pump was super charged and wanted to spray like crazy, being able to shove the end of the hose down a little further helped dramatically. Another tip for water overflowing might be to add another hole and silicone around it so there's more than two. If you're in America, Lowes has the long planter boxes without the false bottoms for about 8 bucks. More than this simple one here, but I think it's well worth it. I love these filters.
JOEY! Does a 38 gal tank that lost its bottom trim safe to use? The pet shop says it needs the trim and can't leave it on a stand because the side panels are what takes most of the pressure because the sides are not on top of the bottom glass plate but actually glued on the outside of the bottom plate. You made your glass tank with the sides on top of the bottom plate. Any DIY ideas on how to fix this without having to buy a hard to find bottom trim. The tank is 36 x12 1/2
Can you place a powerhead nearer the bottom to try and pull up some of the muck from the floor? Is there a reason that you didn't do this seeing as you said that it'll pull water up to 2 feet? Thanks
I think it looks great, but one question. When running it from a pump isnt there danger of some large particles/vegetation/food/snails, etc. getting stuck in the pump?
Would this also work if you added a section with activated carbon and then another section that was an algae scrubber. So it would be Mechanical, chemical, biological, algae(nitrate scrubber) then return to the tank. With it like that couldn't it be totally enclosed so the light for the algae scrubber wouldn't leak out and the algae could be more easily accessed for cleaning? My tank is a 75 gallon, 4 foot long tank. With 4 feet couldn't I put a ridiculous amount of carbon and an enormous algae scrubber in there. Or am I over looking something? This just seems like a perfect way to have a real all in one filter that has very easy access and can be completely enclosed outside of the tank. Love the videos.
I don't see why not. I have a two foot version and I put in carbon and grow pothos in mine. You might need a slightly longer version for your tank since it's close to double mine (volume wise) and would need a bit of extra space. Hope that maybe helps if you haven't experimented already.
thanks for the reply I'm new to all this so I'm sure the question was a bit vague. the powerhead will be in about 1 foot of water pumping to the sump above. is this adequate amount of water for the power head to be submerged in? thanks everyone !
Is it true that this type of filter causes co2 to escape from the aquarium? And can an artificial supplement fix the meb. Is this filter suitable for a plant aquarium?
Hi Joey, i have a 50 gallon and want to start a tropical aquarium. If I go with this set up, can I remove the hanging filter it came with? And will this change the frequency of water changes? Thank you
Thanks Joey. Been wanting to do something like this for a long time. Great idea. Im gonna tweek it a bit and add the algea scrubber to it so its not in the tank.
Sweet idea Joey. It's hard to imagine a tank without a sump after watching your vids. I can put this on my planted tank that you showed me how to build ;) lol
For media use gravel and plants .. house plants or lettuce , basil , parsley ... what ever you want . Add light above . This way it is like aquaponics system ... plants use nitrate to grow and clean water for fish . Water stays good .. only add water as needed .
That's what I'm going to do. I am just thinking if I should go into the trouble of adjusting it to fit in a heater or just keep the heater in the tank.
Is there another video of yours that could show me how to do this but using an air pump. I use a centralized air system and it would be great to tap into that instead of having to plug in another pump?
Do you think a sump like this one but larger could take 500 gph for a goldfish tank. It would need to be this fast because a fancy goldfish tank needs to be filtered 10 times per hour the tank would be 50 gallons and on a budget.
Hello guys. I'm getting air noise on the outlets (2)... i i'v a tube from the outlets to the tank of about 1 feet. Should i cut them shorter, or should i increase the outlets diameter? I know if i control the flow on the intake solves it, but i dont want to reduce filtration.
I like this idea i have no place at the bottom of my tank for a sump filter but while looking over my tank today i hit a problem how to use co2 with it right now my canister filter is set up with the co2 how can this idea get co2 in the tank
You can make it even better by making it an overhead 'dry' trickle filter. Put a long tube on top of the planter, with many small holes drilled in it. The tube is spraying the water over the filter medium all over the lenght of the planter. Also drill many small holes in bottom of the planter. It should look like a collander and let the water drip straight into the aquarium. In case of a power-out or a pump malfunction the 'dry' filter drains completely, hence its name. This prevents anaerobic conditions in the filter, so you do not risk dangerously toxic ammonia or nitrite levels when the pump restarts after the power-out. Besides, a dry filter is easier to build than a sump. You don't have to drill through the sides of the planter, just put a tube on top of it and drill holes in the bottom. You only need one tube connecting the pump to the planter. BTW, the filter medium is always saturated with the surrounding air, it oxidizes harmful decomposition products very fast. I apply expanded clay pellets as a medium. Works like a charm.
if i had an open top set up, this would be great. if the media clogs the planter will just overflow into the tank. i see many open top tanks these days, but i am afraid of fish jumping out.
Just a note the height of the water pump in the aquarium doesn't matter, you can place it at any height in the aquarium. What matters is the height from the aquariums waterline to where it should be pumped. You should know this as you have built a bridge.
quick question regarding the waterline: I have a water line of 6 inches in height and the pump would rest a foot above that. my question is would the maxijet 1200 be able to pump the water that high? thanks in advance. cheers
+William Gazca I hope that you understand that the pump must be in contact with the water that should be pumped. And if the pump doesn't reside in the water and is above the water it also have to be in a closed circute. Now some pumps have been designed so that they are cooled with the same water they pump and can handle to pump water without being in the water. Others are designed so that they need to be in the water. Yet there are a few types that you cannot have in the water at all. I cannot comment on specific pumps, and therfore you make sure of the needed facts regarding your pump, and test it out if needed.
Hey bro I want to get the 4’ planter and stuff it with media to do the same thing like what u did and it’s going to be on top of my 210 gallon would that be too much weight???
Sort of related to his but I am planning on something else. Your huge tank in your basement? I am planning something like that but in a smaller size. Pond armour plywood bottom but I am also thinking of the potential idea of having one side with plywood wall and only three sides with actual glass. Is it something I should consider when doing you think? I am thinking of a 100 cm four sides, 60 cm height. So the area is basically only a meter. Water level around 50-55 cm.
OK...I'm confused...[yes, I know, I'm ALWAYS confused] Anyway, why did you only put in a little bit of the filter floss? Why not put in enough to fill that end of the sump? My inclination would have been to have that piece of lighting diffuser as a sort of lid OVER the floss; a lid into which you could wedge the hose from the pump, thereby insuring that it couldn't be knocked loose by say, a Siamese on a fishing expedition.
Hi Joey. I'm planning to set up an above aquarium sump and had a few questions. I have a 55 gallon tropical tank. What size power head will I need? Also, can I grow plants in the planter box? Thank you
Whos watching this in 2020 and seeing that joeys content drastically IMPROVED since then ?
i agree. got better at all these aquarium information. still one of the best sources of info.
In some ways definitely, but even this video crams as much well-delivered, salient knowledge into 7:19 as most good videos cram into 20 minutes. A lot of effort was put into videos of this DIY King era, and it shows. Perhaps before he started getting lots of views he couldn't afford a better camera and editing software? I don't care though, I almost prefer these old videos to his newer content, though I do love the more laid-back, expansive, and personal nature of it.
i like how these videos were to the point though, sometimes he rambles
@@ashlynnblack3872 true, although his rambling videos are awesome in their own way too
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Just a heads up. When drilling plastic like the planter boxes and things of that thickness, you will have MUCH nicer holes if you use a hole saw and run it backwards. True story. Give it a try on an old bucket lid first if you are suspicious of the advice. I promise once you try it you will never spade bit plastic again.
Just a few minor points, the powerhead will be fine deeper in the tank, although it makes the vertical pipe longer the pump is under the pressure of the water above it so should not be affected flow wise. A better type of cutter to use to drill through the plastic is a device called a hole saw, they make a nice clean job and will not scratch the surrounding area. The hole saw has a pilot drill surrounded by a ring which looks a little like a pastry cutter.
thank you for explaining ''many'' for us, it means a lot.
Omg this is exactly the filter that my dad has been using for the last 10 - 15 years. I just got in the hobby for like 2 years and i always wonder if my dad filter is ever used by somebody else. Its good to know that this type exists. Thank you joey!
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Pues en Latinoamérica ya lo usan , no pensé que esté video sea de hace muchos años !
Built this. Works a champ. I would highly HIGHLY recommend silicone sealing those bulkheads. Mine developed pinhead leaks around the seal and no matter how tightly things were made, it invariably would start leaking within a day. With a silicon seal + the bulkheads no more leaking. :-)
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Really informative video, it's much better and secure to use bulkheads for inflow and outflow. I used silicone to seal the hose and it is working fine so far. I will definitely use bulkheads if I ever get any leaks or if I want to build anymore overhead filters in future.
I know that these are older videos. but I love watching them. when I was a kid, I loved having a fish tank. they mostly consisted of cheap fish, and cheesy decor. but now that I'm an adult, your videos have taught me a lot. and as soon as I move into a place with more room, you can bet I'll be coming back to your videos for reference.
I built mine using an old CD storage plastic box for 52 CDs. It works really well and since it's the correct size I could use drilled CD covers as dividers. It's currently filtering my 10 and 5 gallon tanks :)
Great stuff again sir. I have an overhead filter setup on one of my tanks. If I can add to the topic, I transformed it in a grow bed similar to the aquaponic systems using lava rocks. The plants will eat the bad stuff from the water hopefully, but also, it look nice with foliage on top of the tank.
Used this to make my own above tank sump with my own twist to it. So far it is working well. Thanks for the video it really helped me think out side the box.
Perfect! I'd like to think that my videos are NOT a guideline for a project, but rather a point of inspiration. Glad your happy with your project.
Hi Joe Can you turn this into a planter box as well to grow herbs for the kitchen.
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Yes, look up his later video on the Pothos plant in aquaponics, which is how I got here.
This works great, I will admit I was not keen on this idea at first.
My wife talked me into building it and put over the turtle pond ( she has a red eared slider ( 8 inches and growing ))
Well a few weeks later the pond looks better and we just put plants on the filter and added mosquito eating fish to the pond. Added one 5 inch pleco and a Golden Chinese Algae eater that is 4 inches long both from tank in the house ( had to move him or her because it was hurting the other fish in the tank. )
Now 12 weeks later the filter and the plants and the pond are doing good.
I will tell more about this with out question! From my wife and I, thank your for the video.
How many gallons is your pond?
Excalibur I used a pond size calculator my best guess over 100 g.
Micah Davis thanks. Trying to decide if this would work for my pond
Excalibur your welcome, I have had the filter now almost 6 months and the water clear as a bell. I did put duck weed in my pond that helped huge w algae blooms too.
Excalibur I did recently just put up a video on my TH-cam channel, it’s the first one I’ve ever done. You can see my pond and the set up there. Pardon for the video it’s not that great....
I live in Taiwan and I've noticed tons of people use similar filters here (commercial versions), though maybe more like a wet/dry filter than an actual sump. In fact many fish stores ONLY sell these types of filters for larger tanks. I was wondering if they were any good cuz I was thinking of setting up a tank sometime soon.
That's Great Joey!! This would make a great grow bed for some house plants with some grow bed media. Keep up the good projects!!
2023 AND ALTHOUGH JOEY'S VIDEO WERE TOP OF THE LINE BACK IN THESE DAYS, THEY STILL HOLD UP AND EVEN SURPASS OTHER CREATOR'S OF AQUARIUM CONTENT PRESENTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😎 🐟 🐠 🐡 🦈 🌊
And his present content is years ahead of the rest! His stuff that's out nowadays is currently residing in 2029!!!! As in relation to his peers!
2024 in 5 days now. seems like powerheads have even gotten cheaper.
Just used this idea to make a mini-overhead-sump out of a plastic flowerpot for my 36 gallon tank. Cost a total of $7.00. Don't really have the room to add a canister filter, so adding this in addition to my HOB filter should help dramatically. Thanks for the ideas, and please keep them coming! :)
What size planter box would you need for a 55 gallon tank
An added bonus of a sump is your cats can have a nice drink of filtered water :D
I had a sump driving my smaller tanks for plant cuttings without a lid and couldn't understand why in the hell so much water evaporated...
Remember lids for your sumps if you have cats :D
You are an excellent instructor. However, it would be nice if you included a detailed parts list both in the comments (so I can print it out and bring it to the store) and as a "picture" in the video (so I don't have to scroll down to the comments to follow along as you go over it).
How did you go about this situation as i am about to post a comment asking him?
Yeah sure thing let me just have you’re address I’ll pop over to the shop and buy it all for you aswell!!!!
Bernard Neuleuf u figured it out yet?? hehe
Can I grow Chaetomorpha algae (chaeto) and mangrove in this overhead box, for my saltwater tank? Thanks in advance for your help.
I don't see why not!
hello iv watch all your diy video and I think there the best iv use most off your ideas now iv come to a problem I have a 2ft long by 4ft high tank and I put a pump at the bottom of the tank with pipe going to the top to go throw the filtration and the pipe split do you think I can use electrical tap to fix it back on it holds but im not shore if it good for the fish
Still a great video :D Can it be an only filter in a 30 gal tank?
Great video. I'm planning to build a small fishroom in my basement ad this is an idea I've been playing with for filtration. Nice simple execution of the idea. Thank you.
This is awesome . The next day after I saw this vid, I've made this sump. Since then, it works just awesome and the water is crystal !!! Thank you for this great idea ;)
If you dont mind me asking, 7 years later are you still using it or did you run into any problems? im really thinking about doing it too
@@whogotbarztv6349 Well, I used it for about an year and it did it's job quite well. After that I switched to a canister filter because I allso upgraded to a bigger aquarium. The downside of this sump system si the constant running water nois, and when you have to clean the tank and the sump is in the way, it can get quite messy, taking the sump away. It's a goog system, but not a permanent solution. Good Luck!
Great concept. A few questions though. 1) Since we don't see the whole project in actual application, how did you address surface skimming as opposed to drawing the raw water from below the surface line? 2) Using filter material boosts nitrates. For a reef application, I would think chemical media such as carbon and a Po4 scrubber would be a better choice? 3) naturally, a HOB protein skimmer is a must, correct?
Thanks for a good presentation.
Hello!
I think it's pretty amazing what you build!
This is in my opinion the most needed is something which is useful in the winter air pump is not working because of a power outage!
Thank you!
You can use a air lift system to get the water up to the sump also
yes the old outside box filters used air lifts. i was just looking at one i have left over from 1964...
well i think i can do this with one of those plastic food storage containers, and keep the lid snapped on it as well. since you made this vid, window boxes are $15. i don't see the need to have a 2' long container when 8 or 10 inches should work. i'll just leave the heater in the tank, and maybe use a pvc L fitting instead of 2 bulkheads as the return. i plan using some filter floss and a bag of charcoal. thanks for the ideas.
Very cool idea and it looks like a very simple build. I appreciate the info, boss. My only concern is how well it works and how large it needs to be to suit my needs. Kinda like the example you gave in the canister build. 1ft = 25gal, 2ft = 50gal, etc, etc...
Don't know if this is enough sump for a larger tank but I might do this for a quarantine or frag tank. Thanks for getting my wheels turning :)
Wow, you have changed so much...
It's crazy
I'm going through your filter playlist to get ideas for my 35 and oh man you look so different! I know it's been almost 5 years since you posted this, but man it's great to see you still have the same passion as ever, just a little bit better at talking to the camera :3
Great idea! Works especially well for those of us with stock tanks who can't put anything underneath.
thinking about upgrading from my penguin 150 to this for a waterchange-less setup.
All together because everything was on clearance I spent 15 usd. Thank you so much . I've got 6 big happy koi . :) I am using a large sump pump made for ponds but I was able to slow the flow down with a plastic ball valve on the bulk head .
I have a 120 gallon tank with no room underneath and walls on both ends of the tank,this idea is perfect but is it big enough......if not could I just build more than one. also, could I go about little higher where I'm not on the glass with a better pump and which pump would you recommend...........thanks,I've spent the last three days looking for this idea.....and any other suggestions are more than welcomed,...my tank 48×23×25
I'm in the process of putting this together. Waiting for some filter media I purchased online. I'm going to combine this idea with your water bottle filter idea, and plant a Pothos plant into the filter media in the sump, so it will filter the nitrates as well, and have a great looking plant over the top of my canopy. I love this idea!! Thanks, your ideas and video's are the best!!
B Sammy Too funny. I thought I was being so original when I came up with this. I used lava rock as a medium, a Maxijet powerhead, and bulkhead/drainback hardware from the local hydroponics shop. scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10710794_10204644472291141_2332663413163361679_n.jpg?oh=85aed3ca4294573dd8ab8136bc295ff3&oe=55E8A430
Can you use k1 in the sump as long as u block your returns? Of course you add bubblers and things to keep it moving.
I've been thinking on doing this for a while.... just for the 'different' approach and I thought a waterfall kind of effect when it drops back into the tank.... nicely done Joseph ;)
You don't have to place the powerhead near top of the aquarium to get maximum lift. A powerhead will always have the same lift capacity no matter it's depth. You can place one 1 foot below the surface and one at the bottom of the ocean and they will both lift the same height above the water surface. The only losses a deeper pump may have is restrictions in piping diminishing the flow rate at a given height, but that won't be a concern for a pump by adding, at most, 2 foot of hose in an aquarium.
Jokes aside, this is over of the better videos, if not thebest, I've seen yet. Very professional, and informative. You're normally hyped and excited. Good to see you have a serious side too.... Other than when your arowana passed.
The lift the power head has to provide isn't measured from the pump, it's measured from the surface of the tank. Placing the power head near the surface is the same as placing it at the bottom.
Joey I know it's a late question, but I was wondering about the weight of the sump. I recently got a 55 gallon in 10 mm glass, and without the water the sump weighs approx 3 kgs, I am unsure about the weight the aquarium can take.
Does the turnover/power of the powerhead matter? Just wondering if all powerheads will have the ability to pump the water up to the sump?
Big fan here. Thanks to your videos im starting a freshwater 46 bow front aquarium! The hardest part was convincing my significant other to get the tank. :-)I was wondering if any tried this? I would like to know how many gallons the one joey made can support.any feedback would be great
All the ones I can find have drain holes in the bottom. Did yours have drain holes and if so how did you fill them?
Daniel Hughes just use some silicone to seal them
thinking about making a HOB sump with a k3 fluidized bed and mechanical prefilter out of a 4ft flower bed
It worked for me pretty good, and I am using it to grow some plants as well to help with my high nitrates. You're the best Jo.
Great diy project, opened my mind to the possibilities.
Fantastic video.! Did you immerse the submersible pump into your tank?
Hi, I am considering something like this with plants. Can I plant in the lava rock or should I do layer of clay pebbles on top of the lava rock?
you don't have to but yes it would be best to put lava rock on bottom then gravel or clay pebbles
this is really good, the same idea could also be used in a sump below the tank
With the sump you built in this video, what size aquarium could it support?
How many of these (or what size) do you think would be good for a 100gal tank with two red eared sliders?
I did this build I loved it but I ended up having to take it down because water would spill over and it was just causing to much water to spill if I forgot to change out the filter floss my pump was very strong so any resistance the water would start the spray up not a lot but the sprays would build up and start to drip down the back of the tank I try end putting a cover on it but I couldn't get a good seal and water would get out through what ever opening but I love how good this filtered my tank I wanted to see if you could do an updated recharged version of this sump build if it's possible to improve this version the one thing I think I did wrong was I use acrylic instead of the lighting defuser egg crate to place the filter floss on and as well the window seal planter box you use here they do not sell anymore around my area they all have that false bottom that pops out I had to silicone the hell outa it I finally had to get the black insert for it.
In my pond filter of a similar design I used some plastic baskets to hold my filter floss. I used a bit more and while my pond pump was super charged and wanted to spray like crazy, being able to shove the end of the hose down a little further helped dramatically.
Another tip for water overflowing might be to add another hole and silicone around it so there's more than two.
If you're in America, Lowes has the long planter boxes without the false bottoms for about 8 bucks. More than this simple one here, but I think it's well worth it. I love these filters.
JOEY! Does a 38 gal tank that lost its bottom trim safe to use? The pet shop says it needs the trim and can't leave it on a stand because the side panels are what takes most of the pressure because the sides are not on top of the bottom glass plate but actually glued on the outside of the bottom plate. You made your glass tank with the sides on top of the bottom plate. Any DIY ideas on how to fix this without having to buy a hard to find bottom trim. The tank is 36 x12 1/2
Simple principles, but very nicely done. Clever use of materials.
Can you place a powerhead nearer the bottom to try and pull up some of the muck from the floor? Is there a reason that you didn't do this seeing as you said that it'll pull water up to 2 feet? Thanks
I think it looks great, but one question. When running it from a pump isnt there danger of some large particles/vegetation/food/snails, etc. getting stuck in the pump?
Would this also work if you added a section with activated carbon and then another section that was an algae scrubber. So it would be Mechanical, chemical, biological, algae(nitrate scrubber) then return to the tank. With it like that couldn't it be totally enclosed so the light for the algae scrubber wouldn't leak out and the algae could be more easily accessed for cleaning? My tank is a 75 gallon, 4 foot long tank. With 4 feet couldn't I put a ridiculous amount of carbon and an enormous algae scrubber in there. Or am I over looking something? This just seems like a perfect way to have a real all in one filter that has very easy access and can be completely enclosed outside of the tank. Love the videos.
I don't see why not. I have a two foot version and I put in carbon and grow pothos in mine. You might need a slightly longer version for your tank since it's close to double mine (volume wise) and would need a bit of extra space. Hope that maybe helps if you haven't experimented already.
thanks for the reply I'm new to all this so I'm sure the question was a bit vague. the powerhead will be in about 1 foot of water pumping to the sump above. is this adequate amount of water for the power head to be submerged in? thanks everyone !
That is plenty of water for the power head
Thank you for the planter, this is what my mind could not remember. 😅
This will pair well with my trickel filter. ❤❤❤❤
Excellent idea, I've got a jewel 600lph power head sitting around I wanted to use for a sump sat behind my aquarium but this is a much better idea
Which Maxi-Jet pump would you recommend for this project on a 50 gallon aquarium? cheers, tim
That work on a 125 gallen don't need crazy flow just need it to filter better
Is it true that this type of filter causes co2 to escape from the aquarium? And can an artificial supplement fix the meb. Is this filter suitable for a plant aquarium?
Hi Joey, i have a 50 gallon and want to start a tropical aquarium. If I go with this set up, can I remove the hanging filter it came with? And will this change the frequency of water changes? Thank you
Thanks Joey. Been wanting to do something like this for a long time. Great idea. Im gonna tweek it a bit and add the algea scrubber to it so its not in the tank.
Joe, good idea! A sugestion: how to build a hang on sump. I'm trying to find a way to build it with a skimmer also, but everything home made. Tks!
Mantap, aku jadi tau trik nya...👍
Pemula ni lagi belajar tentang filter aquarium❤️
Could I just use filter media instead of the light thing? Great video
Sweet idea Joey. It's hard to imagine a tank without a sump after watching your vids. I can put this on my planted tank that you showed me how to build ;) lol
What does the media actually do...? And do u put the heater in there because its easier to warm the water?
in your book, pg.222, under 'Hose' ; What do you mean by "We will need a hose in two sizes"...?
I don't want my sump overflowing... do you mean the output must be larger then the input, or can I use 3/4 tubing for both?
Can an overhead filter system be made out of acrylic to incorporate a water fall?
THIS!! THIS!!!
omfg - thank you .... you set my spark in motion for some great dyi projects.
YOU ROCK!
For the lighting diffuser should it cost $15 for 0.375" X 23 3/4" x 47 3/4"' if not where is the best place to buy it. And I live in the U.S.
For media use gravel and plants .. house plants or lettuce , basil , parsley ... what ever you want . Add light above . This way it is like aquaponics system ... plants use nitrate to grow and clean water for fish . Water stays good .. only add water as needed .
That's what I'm going to do. I am just thinking if I should go into the trouble of adjusting it to fit in a heater or just keep the heater in the tank.
please suggest me some links and tips for a 60 gallon tank, interested to add aquaponics
How many gallons do you (or anyone else for that matter) think this system could support? I have a 55gal I'm considering using this on.
Is there another video of yours that could show me how to do this but using an air pump. I use a centralized air system and it would be great to tap into that instead of having to plug in another pump?
Do you think a sump like this one but larger could take 500 gph for a goldfish tank. It would need to be this fast because a fancy goldfish tank needs to be filtered 10 times per hour the tank would be 50 gallons and on a budget.
Are these garden hose repair parts,( Bulkhead fittings) or are they actually aquarium parts ?
Hello guys.
I'm getting air noise on the outlets (2)... i i'v a tube from the outlets to the tank of about 1 feet. Should i cut them shorter, or should i increase the outlets diameter? I know if i control the flow on the intake solves it, but i dont want to reduce filtration.
I like this idea i have no place at the bottom of my tank for a sump filter but while looking over my tank today i hit a problem how to use co2 with it right now my canister filter is set up with the co2 how can this idea get co2 in the tank
You can make it even better by making it an overhead 'dry' trickle filter. Put a long tube on top of the planter, with many small holes drilled in it. The tube is spraying the water over the filter medium all over the lenght of the planter. Also drill many small holes in bottom of the planter. It should look like a collander and let the water drip straight into the aquarium. In case of a power-out or a pump malfunction the 'dry' filter drains completely, hence its name. This prevents anaerobic conditions in the filter, so you do not risk dangerously toxic ammonia or nitrite levels when the pump restarts after the power-out. Besides, a dry filter is easier to build than a sump. You don't have to drill through the sides of the planter, just put a tube on top of it and drill holes in the bottom. You only need one tube connecting the pump to the planter. BTW, the filter medium is always saturated with the surrounding air, it oxidizes harmful decomposition products very fast. I apply expanded clay pellets as a medium. Works like a charm.
if i had an open top set up, this would be great. if the media clogs the planter will just overflow into the tank. i see many open top tanks these days, but i am afraid of fish jumping out.
Just a note the height of the water pump in the aquarium doesn't matter, you can place it at any height in the aquarium. What matters is the height from the aquariums waterline to where it should be pumped.
You should know this as you have built a bridge.
quick question regarding the waterline: I have a water line of 6 inches in height and the pump would rest a foot above that. my question is would the maxijet 1200 be able to pump the water that high? thanks in advance. cheers
+William Gazca
I hope that you understand that the pump must be in contact with the water that should be pumped. And if the pump doesn't reside in the water and is above the water it also have to be in a closed circute.
Now some pumps have been designed so that they are cooled with the same water they pump and can handle to pump water without being in the water. Others are designed so that they need to be in the water. Yet there are a few types that you cannot have in the water at all.
I cannot comment on specific pumps, and therfore you make sure of the needed facts regarding your pump, and test it out if needed.
Filter thing egg carton.. also could I put the holes on the long part of the box on both sides?
Hey bro I want to get the 4’ planter and stuff it with media to do the same thing like what u did and it’s going to be on top of my 210 gallon would that be too much weight???
Where to buy cheap filter floss? Any links where we can purchase online? Thanks for the vids!
What kind of store could you find bulkheads with the appropriate hose?
Sort of related to his but I am planning on something else. Your huge tank in your basement? I am planning something like that but in a smaller size. Pond armour plywood bottom but I am also thinking of the potential idea of having one side with plywood wall and only three sides with actual glass. Is it something I should consider when doing you think? I am thinking of a 100 cm four sides, 60 cm height. So the area is basically only a meter. Water level around 50-55 cm.
Instead of using a heater, could you use a clip on chiller like the JBJ C-Breeze to cool the water instead?
OK...I'm confused...[yes, I know, I'm ALWAYS confused] Anyway, why did you only put in a little bit of the filter floss?
Why not put in enough to fill that end of the sump?
My inclination would have been to have that piece of lighting diffuser as a sort of lid OVER the floss; a lid into which you could wedge the hose from the pump, thereby insuring that it couldn't be knocked loose by say, a Siamese on a fishing expedition.
Are there any websites that you can recommend for obtaining the bulkhead fitting along with the tube :) Fantastic video as usual!
Can this work as a wet dry filter if the ceramic media is not submerged?
Hi Joey. I'm planning to set up an above aquarium sump and had a few questions. I have a 55 gallon tropical tank. What size power head will I need? Also, can I grow plants in the planter box? Thank you
Hi there I really like this idea, I was just wondering what size of tank this would filter ? Thanks for your time
Joey this video was great ....do you have a video on building a freshwater refugium if not can you make one ?