Personally, I enjoyed ironman all the way up to end game. Now that small upgrades take months to show up (raids, pnm, nex) I've been enjoying the main much more.
Mains should be A tier. Back in the start there wasn’t Ironman mode and most would play on their mains or pures. Now with iron mode content, it’s the same as a main just have to get everything from scratch and no GE. I wouldn’t play an iron due to time issues and 1 griefer would cause u to miss a unique drop. That’s painful to get a DWH drop and u can’t pick it up due to someone already damaged it.
My only issue with playing an Iron man is that I don’t have the time irl to dedicate to the constant resource gathering needed to keep up pvm. I’ve got a one year old and maybe play osrs an hour a two a day. Don’t always wanna spend that time resource gathering.
Heres my opinion that no one asked for: Hardcore Ironmen Group, should be A tier along with moving Main accounts to A Tier, cause you’re locked out of PVP and therefore takes a chunk of the game out for you, where as regular mains and regular ironmen that are not hardcore can participate in pvp for their enjoyment. Hardcore group has a huge prestige but arguably a chunk of the game is removed as an option for them unless they die of course which defeats the purpose. Making regular hardcore as B tier is perfect Mains should be A tier at MOST for the simple fact you can do ANYTHING in the game with them and generally is the standard way to play. You can even pretend to be an ironman on a main, it’s limitless and can be “limited” in essence
Keep saying "until you've done it your opinion doesnt matter", but then you havent tried about half of those game modes. As you pointed out you used to shit on irons a lot, but then you tried it. I wonder which of the other game modes you might come to enjoy if you gave them a good try?
Nah, the only time i consider HC irons better than regular is when said hardcores actively engage in all the content presented. And the holy grail of actually good HC irons is when you complete Quest cape, Corrupted gauntlet, raids, inferno or if you really are mentally deficient: wildy bosses. But not the average piss HC that hasn't ever stepped foot in any risky content, you're basically an area locked normal iron man at that point with a fancy red helmet instead of grey/white. (there are too many cope HC irons like these) Anyway another banger tier list, king.
Zerkers don't deserve as much hate as you gave them. It's a very DPS-oriented build, you get access to Masori and Inquisitor's at 30 Def, Bgloves, the Fremennik helms, Rune boots, Zaryte vambraces, the base spirit shield, you can get 82 Attack for a Fang, 55 Prayer for Preserve, Elite Void because all this will get you to 100cb, which means you can use Duradel for Slayer. It can use basically any weapon in the game barring weapons that can only train controlled or Defense, so hastae and the lance, but they can do any content in the game including ToB, Inferno, etc. Super fun build, it's pretty much just a hard mode version of a main. BiS gear is a lot cheaper on a Zerker because you don't need to worry about getting Torva or Ancestral or any high tier off-hands like the Avernic or fortified Elidinis' ward. It's also a good bracket for PvP but also a serviceable PvM account.
Interesting video, I liked it but I don’t think there was any mention to pvm on limited builds. Learning to pvm on a limited account build (1 def, 13 def, or a zerk) makes you so much better as a pvmer. Playing on an account with very high defense and armor allows you to ignore boss mechanics that would prove difficult on a 1 def- which is a good thing for immediate gains but also encourages laziness through being able to ignore mechanics. The downside to builds like this is that your accuracy is nerfed by not having armor that greatly improves your accuracy. The nice thing about this is that armor and gear flexes do not matter- what simply matters is that you’re good at the game. When you raid with a group and a main is skeptical of you at first and then after a few raids says “nice build man.” it gives you a lot of satisfaction that I would assume would be similar to the rewarding aspect of playing an Ironman.
The integrity of all mains was ruined when they added bonds to the game. You can't buy swagger. Why would I want to grind hundreds of hours to get a legit t bow just to have people wonder "how I got it". Imo the pre grand exchange days were the best. Sure, people thought it was annoying to stand around and buy/sell things, but you didn't have to, it was something people did for fun, it forced people to socialize, and quite frankly, if you couldn't buy the item that you wanted, it was probably because you didn't have any in game friends or a clan. Pre GE days imo was the perfect balance between main and iron. I think if they, instead of adding the GE, added all the QOL updates that they did add afterwards, we wouldn't need the GE. It's like all the ironman updates over these years have made the game more suited for a no GE environment. Things like buying packs of items from shops, birdhouse runs for nests.. I think it would be interesting to see what a no GE osrs would look like, in the games current state, with everyone being a main.
As someone who has since 2006 been on and off RuneScape, ironman is what really made it click. The joy and feeling of success when I have to look up where to get certain items for quests, plan my grinds out, and all that. Leveling a main is so boring, look up the highest exp rate method and buy all the supplies. On ironman, you get to plan like a grindset. For example, when you want to level up your crafting for quests etc, you can do jewelry, armor, or glass. I would source bars and gems from doing slayer and mining+smithing. I would craft teleport jewelry and level up my magic enchanting them, and then I would use it for teleports. I would blow glass to make orbs, and charge them with magic, then craft them together into battlestaffs, and high alch the staffs for money and mage exp. I would pick up dragon hides on slayer tasks and while grinding dragon bones to do prayer with, and use it to craft armor for exp, and high alch it for exp and gp. And later I would grind farming to do really efficient giant seaweed farming, superglassmake tens of thousands of glass to blow. And fletch darts and bows while I waited for the seaweed to grow. Instead of the game being A -> B like "I make money -> I buy what I need". It makes the game into a giant flow chart that you constantly iterate on. Any activity you do, you think how you could use all the rewards in the best way. Any time you get an item drop you aren't familiar with, you search it on the wiki to find out if any of the possible uses would benefit you. Any time you need to get an item, you research which ways there are to get it, what way would be the fastest, which way would be the most afk, which way is likely to benefit another goal along the way, etc.
People shit on GIM and say "Oh you share resources, you boss together" but forget you are doing that grind 2-5x longer. For example our team camped Bandos until we had 5 sets of bandos, and 5 hilts. So it's practically the same grind.
@@NalzeIt's the dopamine hits from the drops and the shared excitement when a new item gets added to the gear collection that makes it the most fun and best mode. Not the difficulty.
Ive tried iron 2 times, did a normie iron and a group iron with friends. Both accounts made it past quest cape and was working on gwd. This all said, i still have more fun playing my main account. Fuck ironmeme
im heavilg biased due to being un prestiged group iron, still blue. If your whole team quits and your solo, dont think you should lose rank if you do raids with other people? what is your logic on that being worse then a regular grey helm
Most fun I ever had was playing a 13 def lol. Perfect for switching between pvm slayer, bosses and pvp. It's not OP though, and it's challenging in both fronts. But it's fun and I respect anyone with a complete 13 def build.
Why 13? I'm not super experience on purest outside of pking on rs2 with a str/rng pure so was always curious what 13 def gives over 1 def pure is it like to wear initiate or something?
@@fifthhorseman1632 Addy gloves for tri combat, slayer helm for BIS even in PVP but obviously slayer mostly. 10 def robes. Fairy rings. It's just an account that takes a few weeks to set up with the basics of quests etc. Then it is just a really simple and enjoyable experience. As I say, it's not the best for anything. But its really fun and respected, its a real old school account build. Also, as a main myself now, all I do is spend every day playing trying to keep up with whatever is BIS at the time, spending hours and hours saving for a weapon with +1 strength over what I already have. 13 def can just get nice weapons and the rest is budget, you dont spend all your life trying to get bis.
I am also a 13def and i got bored of my main for same reasons, i get all the content and fun with a really great challenge, it was difficult picking between 20 and 13 but like you said you dont see much 13defers!
Having a sort of a draft aspect would be pretty sweet tbh wipe bank and jump to another group and would also give a chance to keep going if your group dies out
I find it odd that you say you can't have an opinion on iron if you've never played it, yet you go nuts on the rant on UIM for nothing about the game mode itself. Just as Ironman is a completely different game experience to main, so is UIM to Ironman. It's not nearly anyones cup of tea, but if it is, it is a lot of fun and very satisfying to play on. There are so many different methods and things to take into consideration that you won't get elsewhere. The minimalism of it is also very appealing to a lot of UIM as the hoarding on iron can lead to burnout. The way you describe UIM is a lot like the kind of description you're against from mains to Iron. I find that hypocritical.
@@KingCondor Replace uim with iron and bank with trading when you speak of uim. Then switch iron with uim when you speak of iron. You speak as if UIM just play to flex, but then then denies heavily that iron does it. Just listen to yourself man. I expected a better take from you.
This. UIM are literally the strongest and baddest males ever because I am one. You have never played this game if you can bank you are literally playing baby mode the game. Imagine playing a normie account, this is what grandmothers, casuals and immature men do. The true G are all on UIMs.
UIMS just abuse items to get "banks" it's just a cringe bank. Even more so now with death piling. And all the storage in POH. Clues, etc. and y'all get like 1/2 votes a year to keep making the mode easier. Zzzz😊
Piety Pures are basically med accounts and are very fun, altho limited in pvm content, these are very fun, you have almost access to all end game content
I really wish there was a one life mode without the trade restrictions, that's the only reason I don't play ironman. I just love the buy/sell aspect of the game too much.
exactly right, which as a result makes it feel even more rewarding when you finally get the dwh. and then disappointed when you realise it's hot garbage
Nah ironman are inferior to main accounts when your forced to do something you don't want cause of items being locked to content you don't enjoy doing. You can play less efficiently and do things however you want on a main.
As someone who has a main a HCIM and a scum GIM playing GIM was the most fun I’ve ever had and it’s a shame that most GIM teams fall apart and green helms get no respect when they are the same as normal GIM it’s the 1% that wreck the game with p2w and tbf u can buy any acc including a ironman with a t bow there’s no escaping p2w sadly
100% agree, I didn't even realise that people would buy gear on GIM until Condor mentioned it. For me it was to merge me and my friends ironman accounts together for group content
It’s just a meme to flame them honestly. I have a main and a normal iron and I love flaming the booger helms lol. But yeah I’m sure it’s very fun in a good group
gim teams fall apart, so they invite new people. but since not everyone wants to play from scratch, they invite regular ironmen who have progressed a bit already, making the group unranked. its that simple. nothing to be made fun of really. i have no idea why some people buy rares though, as that completely defeats the purpose of this mode. for flexing maybe? even if its bs? idk
Hardcore Group Iron is S Tier only because of having the correct type of death risk. UIM no lower than B Tier as the mode forces innovation making you better at the game. . People who don't play it can't understand. Unranked shouldn't be listed. It's a main with a need for attention.
UIM is the singlest greatest mode this game has to offer. Are you a real man or are you a little girl. Any grown up red blooded male plays an UIM. Any other modes is basically casual low T shit.
i had no clue there was a difference between group ironmen like this with the blue and green armor types, i made a group ironman group with some friends and we are green, we were supposed to make it hardcore group iron but none of us had made an iron before and i did the choice wrong, but i don't think i had an option for a blue helmet? i remember the choices as just group ranked and unranked for group iron
Good vid King but curious on your personal take being a fellow Aussie and struggling/failing to compile any decent GIM experience let alone a prestige one
Hard disagree on the main/iron man portion. Making something more tedious doesnt make it more rewarding , you can do everything on a main that you can on an ironman , you don't because it eliminates the annoying parts of the game you'd rather not do. What you're speaking to is a false sense of accomplishment, there are very few actual accomplishments in osrs that aren't purely time investment achievements
I disagree about greenhelms. My buddies and I had some low level f2p irons and joined em for a GIM because we didn';t want to restart. No rwt for all greenies.
only skill issue for gimps is holding a team together before everyone burns out and goes back to the main. ironman is fun early/mid game but end game is only fun if you spoon drops. all i hear end game iron bitch about is their dry streak for this and that. main is the chill good life, no stress, no worries just focus on min maxing mechanics and getting better at the game
My hardcore ironman has pretty much become my main. It's surpassed all my other accounts. I don't think I would ever create another non ironman account unless it's for pking.
For me I’ve been playing as a rune pure/berserker pure since 2014. I have a “main” but find them boring and to a degree way too easy (even though I’m average at best at pvm). I find it challenging, engaging, and super fun for every aspect of the game. Plus you get to pvm in style with fashion scape, I also love the unique metas builds like this have. Where it suffers however is pvp, I’m maxed 80 attack 55 prayer and it’s by and large the worst pking build in the game. Berserker pures aren’t worth pking on unless 60 attack or under imho. That said I’m double positive for kd and up hundreds of mil in pvp, it’s just rough and all around not fun to do on a 75+ attack zerker.
@@OmniDan26 A very constructive, well thought out, mature and thoughtful response. I definitely see you not being the stereotypical RuneScape player with no life whatsoever.
Lost prestige status because a friend made a new account and joined our group from tutorial island then quit after a day😕 does this mean I can now raid with other non prestige groups and people?
The true S tier is the IronMain. My first account on osrs was an ironman and it wasnt until now that I made a regular account, that still cant trade because i havent played it enough to unlock free trade.
I found mains boring too but I can't be arsed with the ironman grinds so 1 def pure became my main and am working on maxing all skills with 1 def, 55 prayer imo the 1 def bis items looks better too You left out the best pvp build btw, the med level, at combat 99 with 50 attack,70 def, 75 prayer, 99 str, range, mage and hp.
The people that blame ironman for making the game "worse" are literally saying they're mad that content of the game has to be available for anyone to obtain and not be gatekept by merchants lmao
If you play any Ironman mode and you are not a content creator does that mean you have to pretty much play this game forever, like at what point does an Ironmans journey end?
Everyone has certain goals. Most ironman accounts want to max. Some would like to complete certain PvM collection logs such as slayer logs/raids/gwd and some are very much completionists. Why does there need to be an end to the journey if you enjoy playing it and new content is always being released?
@@damienwyles6515 thanks for the reply my question was pretty open ended, I see now ironman players WILL play for ever lol nah but in all seriousness I get it now ironman players like the challenge and they enjoy it, no rush to do anything because they play at their own pace and can be efficient in doing so
Idk man I really enjoy 60 atk med level it sucks at it can’t use scythe or fangs etc for raids but t bow and staff carry it with max gear and it can do just about any content
Curious of your opinion of 807 Ironmen, AKA Combat Only Pures. 1 in all non-combat skills. Effectively a slayer Alt that is also a PVM snowflake puzzle box ironman.
Rune pure above zerker for the reasons u said makes no sense at all lol would be cool if u left the bias mindset out now I have to go spend more time and find a legit tier list
Disagree with how you ranked the pvp accounts lol, but was a funny video anyway. You missed out on the pk med builds which sit between lvls 100 and 109. Made for bullying zerks, pures and mains
Until You've been to a drop party and received a 600m item you don't really understand how boring a main can be😅. One day ya broke then the next you have most of the end game gear you will ever need.
definitely not true there are tons of pures who fight other pures its a fast paced fight (i have a main zerk med and pure) pure pking is just the most fun. there are definitely noobs who make pures and go kill pvmers at revs but to say all pures cant pk is just plain wrong
17:38 No, this game is not about combat. What sets OSRS apart from other mmos is that it gives you the freedom to be/do whatever you want. You can skill and progress without ever having to touch combat. I like being to sit back and sink a couple hours on skilling while watching a new show. If I wanted 90% of my gameplay to be just PVM and raids I'd just go play WoW.
@@dantelabella9753 let’s gooo! How was the journey? I’m making my first account/pure right now so I’m still in the infant stages (averages skill levels, base 50 range,attack, etc…) just wondering your opinion on the life of a pure? 😄
@@dantelabella9753 also, wondering if PvM is actually profitable as a pure? Still learning this game and hoping to get into some fun and profitable pvp/pvming 😄🙏
@@FaithOrFearHD its fun, training is more expensive like slayer. but youre still making money doing it even when using pray pots and stuff. I made over like 400m when i was getting my wildy pets a couple years back before the wildy update
If you put regular iron in A tier because of what they did to the game, ultimates shield be up there too, Settled has been the biggest, most infuential player in attracting new player to osrs. And hes uim only. And im 99% sure you never player the mode, so stfu 😆.
Main is dog shit because they have to high defence and inferno is not same challenging anymore pvm is not challenging. And what makes the game so funny it's the challenging things and if it's easy then it's not fun.
The king giving the ratings :D love the vids mate. for sentimental reasons i'd give a zerker a b tier but i know deep down it's shit house nowadays lol.
Personally I think group iron should be lower bc isn't the whole pitch of ironman "standing alone" being in a group u can share gear,resources, even assign roles like slayer farmer etc to effortlessly get far quick. I hardly see group irons as irons at all tbh. agree w most other builds but would probably bump 1 def pure up higher they can be really fun to pk and pvm with. Im a little biased bc I play a solo hc and watch odablock's group getting carried by alfie like crazy.
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Personally, I enjoyed ironman all the way up to end game. Now that small upgrades take months to show up (raids, pnm, nex) I've been enjoying the main much more.
Mains should be A tier. Back in the start there wasn’t Ironman mode and most would play on their mains or pures. Now with iron mode content, it’s the same as a main just have to get everything from scratch and no GE. I wouldn’t play an iron due to time issues and 1 griefer would cause u to miss a unique drop. That’s painful to get a DWH drop and u can’t pick it up due to someone already damaged it.
You wouldnt know if you got a drop and "cant pick it up" no loot shows at all. and its not really often you get griefed
"You don't have nightmares on ironman"... The CG grind.
My only issue with playing an Iron man is that I don’t have the time irl to dedicate to the constant resource gathering needed to keep up pvm. I’ve got a one year old and maybe play osrs an hour a two a day. Don’t always wanna spend that time resource gathering.
Heres my opinion that no one asked for:
Hardcore Ironmen Group, should be A tier along with moving Main accounts to A Tier, cause you’re locked out of PVP and therefore takes a chunk of the game out for you, where as regular mains and regular ironmen that are not hardcore can participate in pvp for their enjoyment. Hardcore group has a huge prestige but arguably a chunk of the game is removed as an option for them unless they die of course which defeats the purpose.
Making regular hardcore as B tier is perfect
Mains should be A tier at MOST for the simple fact you can do ANYTHING in the game with them and generally is the standard way to play. You can even pretend to be an ironman on a main, it’s limitless and can be “limited” in essence
I agree about mains being A tier. Green log mage training arena and tithe farm.
For me Range tanks are always fun to do pvm or pvp
Keep saying "until you've done it your opinion doesnt matter", but then you havent tried about half of those game modes. As you pointed out you used to shit on irons a lot, but then you tried it.
I wonder which of the other game modes you might come to enjoy if you gave them a good try?
It's almost like he's feeding into stereotypes for the sake of comedy
Lol this guy is cringe the comedy doesnt exist
Main is S and everything else is for ego andies
Main is massive ego andy
I respect this pov tbh
Yes other than purrs tbh cause that can genuinely make PKing fun and different experience
Nope main is S and ironman is for pathetic lowlifes that need to touch grass and pures are pointless unless you do pvp
When i was younger i could see doing iron but now being married and with kids i just dont have the time for the iron grind x.x
Played main and every variation of Ironman and UIM is definitely the best imo. My now most progressed account ever
Also the dude in chat who said uim dont have to think ahead is an actual sludgebrain
No way.
@@blakeunderwood1075 way. The first 3 months learning are kinda shit, but looking back at them now I'm filled with nostalgia
Nah, the only time i consider HC irons better than regular is when said hardcores actively engage in all the content presented.
And the holy grail of actually good HC irons is when you complete Quest cape, Corrupted gauntlet, raids, inferno or if you really are mentally deficient: wildy bosses.
But not the average piss HC that hasn't ever stepped foot in any risky content, you're basically an area locked normal iron man at that point with a fancy red helmet instead of grey/white. (there are too many cope HC irons like these)
Anyway another banger tier list, king.
I never realized pussy hc's like that exist hahaha
Agreed
Zerkers don't deserve as much hate as you gave them. It's a very DPS-oriented build, you get access to Masori and Inquisitor's at 30 Def, Bgloves, the Fremennik helms, Rune boots, Zaryte vambraces, the base spirit shield, you can get 82 Attack for a Fang, 55 Prayer for Preserve, Elite Void because all this will get you to 100cb, which means you can use Duradel for Slayer. It can use basically any weapon in the game barring weapons that can only train controlled or Defense, so hastae and the lance, but they can do any content in the game including ToB, Inferno, etc. Super fun build, it's pretty much just a hard mode version of a main. BiS gear is a lot cheaper on a Zerker because you don't need to worry about getting Torva or Ancestral or any high tier off-hands like the Avernic or fortified Elidinis' ward. It's also a good bracket for PvP but also a serviceable PvM account.
Me, a mobile only zerker main: “Truly this is wisdom of the ages.”
If ruinous powers didn't get scrapped, zerkers would be the strongest build type
Interesting video, I liked it but I don’t think there was any mention to pvm on limited builds. Learning to pvm on a limited account build (1 def, 13 def, or a zerk) makes you so much better as a pvmer. Playing on an account with very high defense and armor allows you to ignore boss mechanics that would prove difficult on a 1 def- which is a good thing for immediate gains but also encourages laziness through being able to ignore mechanics. The downside to builds like this is that your accuracy is nerfed by not having armor that greatly improves your accuracy.
The nice thing about this is that armor and gear flexes do not matter- what simply matters is that you’re good at the game. When you raid with a group and a main is skeptical of you at first and then after a few raids says “nice build man.” it gives you a lot of satisfaction that I would assume would be similar to the rewarding aspect of playing an Ironman.
The integrity of all mains was ruined when they added bonds to the game. You can't buy swagger.
Why would I want to grind hundreds of hours to get a legit t bow just to have people wonder "how I got it".
Imo the pre grand exchange days were the best. Sure, people thought it was annoying to stand around and buy/sell things, but you didn't have to, it was something people did for fun, it forced people to socialize, and quite frankly, if you couldn't buy the item that you wanted, it was probably because you didn't have any in game friends or a clan.
Pre GE days imo was the perfect balance between main and iron. I think if they, instead of adding the GE, added all the QOL updates that they did add afterwards, we wouldn't need the GE.
It's like all the ironman updates over these years have made the game more suited for a no GE environment. Things like buying packs of items from shops, birdhouse runs for nests.. I think it would be interesting to see what a no GE osrs would look like, in the games current state, with everyone being a main.
As someone who has since 2006 been on and off RuneScape, ironman is what really made it click.
The joy and feeling of success when I have to look up where to get certain items for quests, plan my grinds out, and all that. Leveling a main is so boring, look up the highest exp rate method and buy all the supplies. On ironman, you get to plan like a grindset.
For example, when you want to level up your crafting for quests etc, you can do jewelry, armor, or glass. I would source bars and gems from doing slayer and mining+smithing. I would craft teleport jewelry and level up my magic enchanting them, and then I would use it for teleports. I would blow glass to make orbs, and charge them with magic, then craft them together into battlestaffs, and high alch the staffs for money and mage exp. I would pick up dragon hides on slayer tasks and while grinding dragon bones to do prayer with, and use it to craft armor for exp, and high alch it for exp and gp.
And later I would grind farming to do really efficient giant seaweed farming, superglassmake tens of thousands of glass to blow. And fletch darts and bows while I waited for the seaweed to grow.
Instead of the game being A -> B like "I make money -> I buy what I need". It makes the game into a giant flow chart that you constantly iterate on. Any activity you do, you think how you could use all the rewards in the best way. Any time you get an item drop you aren't familiar with, you search it on the wiki to find out if any of the possible uses would benefit you. Any time you need to get an item, you research which ways there are to get it, what way would be the fastest, which way would be the most afk, which way is likely to benefit another goal along the way, etc.
That’s a lot
@@Turkingtang I was bored and mining in MLM so I just felt like typing :)
People shit on GIM and say "Oh you share resources, you boss together" but forget you are doing that grind 2-5x longer. For example our team camped Bandos until we had 5 sets of bandos, and 5 hilts. So it's practically the same grind.
Significantly easier, though.
@@NalzeIt's the dopamine hits from the drops and the shared excitement when a new item gets added to the gear collection that makes it the most fun and best mode. Not the difficulty.
Cope
Ive tried iron 2 times, did a normie iron and a group iron with friends. Both accounts made it past quest cape and was working on gwd.
This all said, i still have more fun playing my main account. Fuck ironmeme
im heavilg biased due to being un prestiged group iron, still blue. If your whole team quits and your solo, dont think you should lose rank if you do raids with other people? what is your logic on that being worse then a regular grey helm
rune pure is 40/42 defence, basically same as a zerker but you don't get 45 for the zerker helm. 40/42 for void
I think the 40/99/40 is a pretty popular build for f2p pking. haven't been out there in a while though
No such thing as a rune pure it's called a void build pures clans don't accept 40 Def bc it's not pure
@@imheretocommentnah not anymore if the other person Even has 50 def your not hitting f2p weapons just don't offer good enough Stats
@@carlsonkearley3727 rune pure is a very old term but it’s definitely a thing
Most fun I ever had was playing a 13 def lol. Perfect for switching between pvm slayer, bosses and pvp. It's not OP though, and it's challenging in both fronts. But it's fun and I respect anyone with a complete 13 def build.
Why 13? I'm not super experience on purest outside of pking on rs2 with a str/rng pure so was always curious what 13 def gives over 1 def pure is it like to wear initiate or something?
@@fifthhorseman1632 slayer helm
@@fifthhorseman1632 Addy gloves for tri combat, slayer helm for BIS even in PVP but obviously slayer mostly. 10 def robes. Fairy rings. It's just an account that takes a few weeks to set up with the basics of quests etc. Then it is just a really simple and enjoyable experience. As I say, it's not the best for anything. But its really fun and respected, its a real old school account build. Also, as a main myself now, all I do is spend every day playing trying to keep up with whatever is BIS at the time, spending hours and hours saving for a weapon with +1 strength over what I already have. 13 def can just get nice weapons and the rest is budget, you dont spend all your life trying to get bis.
@@fifthhorseman1632 60 attack 13 def 99 str 99 range 82 cb or w.,e is very good in pvp and you can enjoy almost all pvm t he game has to offer
I am also a 13def and i got bored of my main for same reasons, i get all the content and fun with a really great challenge, it was difficult picking between 20 and 13 but like you said you dont see much 13defers!
I will always wish Jagex had made changing groups with a gim wipe your bank and all items. Could have been cool joining a new group be like a rebuild
Having a sort of a draft aspect would be pretty sweet tbh wipe bank and jump to another group and would also give a chance to keep going if your group dies out
I got my main to 2160 total, got bored and started a uim, and now I’m hooked. It’s a ton of fun
My favourite is bronzeman, I still need to unlock stuff, but I can also enjoy myself and get as many resources I can afford on the GE for training.
I find it odd that you say you can't have an opinion on iron if you've never played it, yet you go nuts on the rant on UIM for nothing about the game mode itself. Just as Ironman is a completely different game experience to main, so is UIM to Ironman. It's not nearly anyones cup of tea, but if it is, it is a lot of fun and very satisfying to play on. There are so many different methods and things to take into consideration that you won't get elsewhere. The minimalism of it is also very appealing to a lot of UIM as the hoarding on iron can lead to burnout.
The way you describe UIM is a lot like the kind of description you're against from mains to Iron. I find that hypocritical.
UIM spotted
@@KingCondor Replace uim with iron and bank with trading when you speak of uim. Then switch iron with uim when you speak of iron. You speak as if UIM just play to flex, but then then denies heavily that iron does it. Just listen to yourself man. I expected a better take from you.
@@KingCondornot a uim but he’s right lol but everyone’s entitled to their own opinions even if your wrong 😂
This. UIM are literally the strongest and baddest males ever because I am one.
You have never played this game if you can bank you are literally playing baby mode the game.
Imagine playing a normie account, this is what grandmothers, casuals and immature men do.
The true G are all on UIMs.
UIMS just abuse items to get "banks" it's just a cringe bank. Even more so now with death piling. And all the storage in POH. Clues, etc. and y'all get like 1/2 votes a year to keep making the mode easier. Zzzz😊
Piety Pures are basically med accounts and are very fun, altho limited in pvm content, these are very fun, you have almost access to all end game content
I used to play a 99 atk 99 strength zerker and i did tob/cox and it was a pvm zerker super fun
I really wish there was a one life mode without the trade restrictions, that's the only reason I don't play ironman. I just love the buy/sell aspect of the game too much.
Iron may be more rewarding but anyone who says going 2-4x dry for something like a dragon warhammer is still fun, is straight up lying.
exactly right, which as a result makes it feel even more rewarding when you finally get the dwh. and then disappointed when you realise it's hot garbage
I love how the Ironman are almost as wide as you ❤
that is cyber bullying
@@KingCondor you know you want the wide lens and a chug rn
Nah ironman are inferior to main accounts when your forced to do something you don't want cause of items being locked to content you don't enjoy doing. You can play less efficiently and do things however you want on a main.
back in the day like 07 zerker pure was the shit
On my watch later list, love watching this content but I'm at work
As someone who has a main a HCIM and a scum GIM playing GIM was the most fun I’ve ever had and it’s a shame that most GIM teams fall apart and green helms get no respect when they are the same as normal GIM it’s the 1% that wreck the game with p2w and tbf u can buy any acc including a ironman with a t bow there’s no escaping p2w sadly
100% agree, I didn't even realise that people would buy gear on GIM until Condor mentioned it. For me it was to merge me and my friends ironman accounts together for group content
It’s just a meme to flame them honestly. I have a main and a normal iron and I love flaming the booger helms lol. But yeah I’m sure it’s very fun in a good group
gim teams fall apart, so they invite new people. but since not everyone wants to play from scratch, they invite regular ironmen who have progressed a bit already, making the group unranked. its that simple. nothing to be made fun of really. i have no idea why some people buy rares though, as that completely defeats the purpose of this mode. for flexing maybe? even if its bs? idk
Hardcore Group Iron is S Tier only because of having the correct type of death risk. UIM no lower than B Tier as the mode forces innovation making you better at the game. . People who don't play it can't understand. Unranked shouldn't be listed. It's a main with a need for attention.
UIM is the singlest greatest mode this game has to offer. Are you a real man or are you a little girl. Any grown up red blooded male plays an UIM. Any other modes is basically casual low T shit.
i had no clue there was a difference between group ironmen like this with the blue and green armor types, i made a group ironman group with some friends and we are green, we were supposed to make it hardcore group iron but none of us had made an iron before and i did the choice wrong, but i don't think i had an option for a blue helmet? i remember the choices as just group ranked and unranked for group iron
Good vid King but curious on your personal take being a fellow Aussie and struggling/failing to compile any decent GIM experience let alone a prestige one
I recon just send a normal iron mate, it's just easier to deal with long term
Any plans to re-upload the raids loot/gear tier list? Started watching that and now it's gone :(
yeah mate just editing it, should be up by the weekend
Hard disagree on the main/iron man portion. Making something more tedious doesnt make it more rewarding , you can do everything on a main that you can on an ironman , you don't because it eliminates the annoying parts of the game you'd rather not do. What you're speaking to is a false sense of accomplishment, there are very few actual accomplishments in osrs that aren't purely time investment achievements
I have a really sick Inquisitor/Masori account build, where can I show this?
I disagree about greenhelms. My buddies and I had some low level f2p irons and joined em for a GIM because we didn';t want to restart. No rwt for all greenies.
only skill issue for gimps is holding a team together before everyone burns out and goes back to the main. ironman is fun early/mid game but end game is only fun if you spoon drops. all i hear end game iron bitch about is their dry streak for this and that. main is the chill good life, no stress, no worries just focus on min maxing mechanics and getting better at the game
My hardcore ironman has pretty much become my main. It's surpassed all my other accounts. I don't think I would ever create another non ironman account unless it's for pking.
Blue helm GIM is A tier due to the simple fact literally no one can tell otherwise if youre prestiged or not. If it was clear id agree though
oh yeah unprestige gim is a atleast so fun u most likly wont do much pvm with people outside the group i wont atleast
Group ironman with my brother is the mopst fun I ever had in runescape.
cant belive how u put main above GIM unprestiged? :O waay better and fun than playing main and normal iron
Ironman is the only one true way of playing the game. No economy - no worrying about botting and economy.
For me I’ve been playing as a rune pure/berserker pure since 2014. I have a “main” but find them boring and to a degree way too easy (even though I’m average at best at pvm). I find it challenging, engaging, and super fun for every aspect of the game. Plus you get to pvm in style with fashion scape, I also love the unique metas builds like this have. Where it suffers however is pvp, I’m maxed 80 attack 55 prayer and it’s by and large the worst pking build in the game. Berserker pures aren’t worth pking on unless 60 attack or under imho. That said I’m double positive for kd and up hundreds of mil in pvp, it’s just rough and all around not fun to do on a 75+ attack zerker.
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@@OmniDan26 A very constructive, well thought out, mature and thoughtful response. I definitely see you not being the stereotypical RuneScape player with no life whatsoever.
The problem with hardcore ironmen, at a certain point you get scarred to do anything.
In my defence my hard-core group fell apart and I've been on a unranked group for ab 6months and we've never even considered buying anything 😱
Lost prestige status because a friend made a new account and joined our group from tutorial island then quit after a day😕 does this mean I can now raid with other non prestige groups and people?
Whole group quit after a week I been playing it like an iron for a year
The true S tier is the IronMain. My first account on osrs was an ironman and it wasnt until now that I made a regular account, that still cant trade because i havent played it enough to unlock free trade.
What about the RANGE TANK
“you are entitled to your wrong opinion “😂
Lmfao this dude reminds me of Kenny Powers 🤣
I found mains boring too but I can't be arsed with the ironman grinds so 1 def pure became my main and am working on maxing all skills with 1 def, 55 prayer imo the 1 def bis items looks better too
You left out the best pvp build btw, the med level, at combat 99 with 50 attack,70 def, 75 prayer, 99 str, range, mage and hp.
The people that blame ironman for making the game "worse" are literally saying they're mad that content of the game has to be available for anyone to obtain and not be gatekept by merchants lmao
If you play any Ironman mode and you are not a content creator does that mean you have to pretty much play this game forever, like at what point does an Ironmans journey end?
Everyone has certain goals.
Most ironman accounts want to max. Some would like to complete certain PvM collection logs such as slayer logs/raids/gwd and some are very much completionists.
Why does there need to be an end to the journey if you enjoy playing it and new content is always being released?
@@damienwyles6515 thanks for the reply my question was pretty open ended, I see now ironman players WILL play for ever lol nah but in all seriousness I get it now ironman players like the challenge and they enjoy it, no rush to do anything because they play at their own pace and can be efficient in doing so
How the hell is a skiller ranked that low??? There's so much more than skilling; the untradeables and the grind?
I love my maxed med. Access to all PVM + gear and a wide PVP bracket
Just IronMain, it's the fun of earning stuff without the end game boredom of waiting on rng.
Where the 104 combat range tank? 70 att 70 str 99 def 99 range and magic and 52 prayer lol.. boy have times changed 😢
Idk man I really enjoy 60 atk med level it sucks at it can’t use scythe or fangs etc for raids but t bow and staff carry it with max gear and it can do just about any content
Curious of your opinion of 807 Ironmen, AKA Combat Only Pures. 1 in all non-combat skills. Effectively a slayer Alt that is also a PVM snowflake puzzle box ironman.
it just sounds super tedious, in general snowflake accounts in my opinion are not good
Die on hc just play on as an iron??
Why is your logo like oda?
a 1 def obby mauler is the most broken thing in game at its cb level in pvp
Rune pure above zerker for the reasons u said makes no sense at all lol would be cool if u left the bias mindset out now I have to go spend more time and find a legit tier list
Shoutouts to all the other 5 man prestiged GIM teams. It was a clear and obvious choice to S tier them. 100% biased btw 😂
Disagree with how you ranked the pvp accounts lol, but was a funny video anyway. You missed out on the pk med builds which sit between lvls 100 and 109. Made for bullying zerks, pures and mains
Until You've been to a drop party and received a 600m item you don't really understand how boring a main can be😅. One day ya broke then the next you have most of the end game gear you will ever need.
Group UIM?
Everyone shares 1 inventory
Group ironman with friends is fun.
1 def pures are losers who cant PK normally so they have to cheese their combat level to take on people with worse overall stats.
definitely not true there are tons of pures who fight other pures its a fast paced fight (i have a main zerk med and pure) pure pking is just the most fun. there are definitely noobs who make pures and go kill pvmers at revs but to say all pures cant pk is just plain wrong
You missed range/mage/tank :p
berserker/pure with infernal cape easy S tier
death to unranked group iron men (hyburn)
17:38 No, this game is not about combat. What sets OSRS apart from other mmos is that it gives you the freedom to be/do whatever you want. You can skill and progress without ever having to touch combat. I like being to sit back and sink a couple hours on skilling while watching a new show. If I wanted 90% of my gameplay to be just PVM and raids I'd just go play WoW.
6:10 so true, I had dreams of dying on my hc when I played one
Why’s everything so wide
Because we wide as fuck boi
Someone that dont like iron man isnt gonna earn a quest cape so where is that logic
pures of any sort are the master race, iron are filth aswell as pvmers and skillers/questers.
What about quest pure? Lv85 combat quest cape
so much hate on unranked gim for no reason "can buy purples" yeah like hcims dont buy purples from cox lmfao
I SUCK
im 3 slay levels away from completely maxed 1 def :D
2 months later check in. Did you get it?!?
@@FaithOrFearHD yes im completely maxed. thanks haha. going for base 110s now and pets until sailing comes out
@@dantelabella9753 let’s gooo! How was the journey? I’m making my first account/pure right now so I’m still in the infant stages (averages skill levels, base 50 range,attack, etc…) just wondering your opinion on the life of a pure? 😄
@@dantelabella9753 also, wondering if PvM is actually profitable as a pure? Still learning this game and hoping to get into some fun and profitable pvp/pvming 😄🙏
@@FaithOrFearHD its fun, training is more expensive like slayer. but youre still making money doing it even when using pray pots and stuff. I made over like 400m when i was getting my wildy pets a couple years back before the wildy update
The only reason I will never play iron man is because I hate to walk in this game
Non prestige group should be b
What about 60 attack meds tf.
Lmao any pure is for pking
I play iron and main lol. I'd put them both as equal tbh. Just a personal opinion tho.
8:27 LMAO
If you put regular iron in A tier because of what they did to the game, ultimates shield be up there too, Settled has been the biggest, most infuential player in attracting new player to osrs.
And hes uim only.
And im 99% sure you never player the mode, so stfu 😆.
Uim bad and cringe, settled bought people to osrs, not to uim
You’ve never made a pure? Bro you fail at RuneScape.
mains can buy gold, so they should be put in f tier
Mains are dog shit because it's not challenging as zerker pure and what makes the game so fun it's the challenging things to do
A zerker is a rune pure lmao
Basically a 42-45 Def pvp account.
Main is S tier.
Main is dog shit because they have to high defence and inferno is not same challenging anymore pvm is not challenging. And what makes the game so funny it's the challenging things and if it's easy then it's not fun.
The king giving the ratings :D love the vids mate. for sentimental reasons i'd give a zerker a b tier but i know deep down it's shit house nowadays lol.
plz rank our butts next on your tier list
Nice butt
Personally I think group iron should be lower bc isn't the whole pitch of ironman "standing alone" being in a group u can share gear,resources, even assign roles like slayer farmer etc to effortlessly get far quick. I hardly see group irons as irons at all tbh. agree w most other builds but would probably bump 1 def pure up higher they can be really fun to pk and pvm with. Im a little biased bc I play a solo hc and watch odablock's group getting carried by alfie like crazy.