Saying "Sorry" and listening to the community goes a long way these days. I forgave Bitwig, and I'll forgive them and give it another chance all things considered. Thanks for the down to earth video Dash.
Especially cause it's not just one person who is responsible. It could totally be that there's some people over there who are less easy to forgive, but we wouldn't wanna let them ruin it for all the people who did amazing work here.
Considering they literally called the product "See You Rent", I'm quite pleased with how quickly they responded to community feedback. Looks like a fun and capable synth. Will be checking it out myself soon.
I have zero problems with them as a company. They went back on tbr mistake they made almost immediately and didn't try to defend it and dig deeper. They are a smaller company that really do make some unique plugins that are obviously made by people who like to make music.
Great vid, don't worry about the whole subscription debacle. Everyone is learning how to make money is the ever changing digital world. I think most people who have watched lots of your stuff will know who you are and what you're about. Synth sounds great, I am excited to get into it.
Great synth. Went out and grabbed it after seeing Weaver’s news show detailing the pricing change a couple weeks back, and already using it in my new track
Something that i started to consider today it the inability to do stereo modulation of the lfos in current. However the things that i would normally attatch stereo modulation to in vital are the filters, delay, chorus phaser and reverb. Which have spred. Which you can modulate as well. And even with the pitch envelope on the sub osc being able to be recreated with an envelope in vital, having that set up already without deticating an osc that you could use for fm is incredible for work flow. What are you opinions on stereo modulation do the things with spread scratch your itch?
🔥🔥Is the perpetual license for current a one time fee with no renewal involved? Just asking for clarification before I make the purchase, thanks in advance🙏🏻
I'd say it's more of a Factory soundset that comes with the perpetual, there are some good sounds and it's nice if you make a lot of your own sounds, but if you're into loads of presets/banks etc, I'd think about the stream/sub plan
I doubt people have got you down as being on the grift. You come across too nice for that. We know everything everywhere is so cut throat especially in the muso Bizz. Minimal do make great stuff , whatever possessed them to try that number is perplexing though. i'll buy this synth soon enough i'm sure. Thanks ! It does make sense 😉
Hey Dash! Do you think I should get this synth if I already have PhasePlant? Are there any feature this synth has that Phase Plant do not? It looks pretty nice so I'm wondering. Amazing insightfull videos as always! Thank you!!!
Hey Dash, thank you for your reply. I see what you mean. It's a nice option too if not wanting to mess with Phase Plant inorder to get a sound; probably more practical for certain situations than PP. Thank you very much for your reply! @@DashGlitch
Should try that one @@stephankreidl1999 as I'm very curious. I already own all the stuff from kHs, but always a pleasure to investigate everything. Thank you for your input :)
I think you've convinced me that I want this...thanks a lot, lol. One small thing though regarding the payment plans that I think might be worth addressing is, you said that the Yearly payment plan costs $10/month (that's how I understood it anyways) which, while true in the technical sense, is billed once yearly (i.e. $120 a pop). This may seem like a small thing but I know what it's like to be able to effort a few bucks more each month whereas paying the yearly fee (while lower in price per month) upfront would have meant waiting several to many months before I'd have the larger sum saved up. This may seem trivial but for people with impulse control issues, this can really be a roller coaster. Thanks for the great vid though, I really like the way this thing sounds. 👍
I bought Current last weekend.. its Very Cool! but feels a bit like a beta. 2023 synth without undo/redo? No mod matrix, You cant bypass a modulation, No remap etc. When u try to overwrite a preset its open a different window that doesn't pop in focus( I thought the software freeze and I lost my preset), there is no rename for presets... i guess Minimal audio still have some basic work to do.. 200$ price tag, I expect a premium quality all the way. Thanks for the awesome video as always dash!
Yea I agree with most of those points yea, I believe we are expecting a decent update soon which should deal with some of the issues I raised which you also mentioned here :) so let's see
I am constantly battling with the question: do i really need another synth? So the question is, what can Current do that other synths can't? And I'm not talking about cool features or whatever, just fundamental functions. Isnt this just another synth?
Their fully functional effects that you would already be accustomed too since most are stand alone. With the presets for all of them. Something like Morph EQ is a bigger beast with access to the modulation capabilities. Being able to, right within the plugin, browse more presets and sounds is convenient. Since the interface is basically a combination of Serum and Pigments, in my opinion, the workflow is much more efficient in comparison. I'd worry less about how this compares to other synths, sure, it's another synth, but try it, does it feel more intuitive and enable a better workflow for you to be more creative? Then that in itself it's a win compared to other synths.
Love how that formant filtered saw synth sounded at the end. I've always wanted an envelope that recognizes when the note is supposed to reach 0 and pre-empt it with the release, I wish every one of them had some kind of toggle like that, applicable to almost any modulation. Can do it manually, especially with bpm synced envelopes it's not too big a deal, but that extra flexibility without modulations/copies of the synths for different note lengths is huge for creative flow. Quick related tip: All my places where presets go have one called ''.Temporary'', I always overwrite over this one when quickly copy/pasting, and it always appears in the same spot. Does anyone know of any ways to copy automation data to different automations? Let's say you easily want to have two filters run in parallel, preferably individually tweakable, but a truly linked mode would be convenient too. I use FL, but I'd be interested if other DAWS have options for this too. I'm pretty sure there's plugins that will let you link several things to the same automation source, but I'd like to be able to add parallel automation to something I didn't initially plan to do that to. If I could just copy automation data over to such a controller that affects multiple things, that'd work and give me both copy/paste and linking/merging capabilities.
@@DashGlitch Ty! I'm aware of those (And should use them more...), but the main issue is I usually start off without one. I automate one thing and realize I want something else in parallel later. Weird thing about FL, I open the channel settings/automation editor window, and the save preset option there is gray. I'd copy/paste that over to a controller, but it seems I have to do it manually for no particular reason, we can save midi data etc. just fine Edit: I'm looking into it now, it seems I've got it, mostly. I can simply use the link to controller window to link to an existing clip! I don't get options as advanced as I'd like them this way, but there's options like default, inverted, log scale and steppy, just no custom formula/range over which it's active. I'd love being able to squish it into a range or simply cut off the movement at the extremes One strange issue seems to be that I gotta make sure to pick everything I wanna assign before making copies of the automation clip, since anything added after will only respond to one of the automation clips, appearing seperately in the list... Strange. Well, I click the automation clip in question and can add to a list of target link! Strange issue, but it's solved. Except, it seems it won't take the formula into account on the automation clip it is now assigned to, even though it says it should. Another discovery: State files... I guess they just don't consider it a preset, but it's there. Well, I can save the automation data that ''broke'' cause I added a link after I copied the clip, now I save that data and create a copy of the original that works after I've linked something, simply paste automation data onto that. Not the best, but it works and still saves time overal
Great video and somehow I like Minimal audio for their usability…but, 200€ for the power it delivers…na…falcon 3 also 199€ phaseplant 99€ (both on sale)
Trying to decide between falcon 3 and current at the moment.. Though falcon 3 seems like a monster I've also heard it takes more time to make good patches, so I'm leaning towards current. Really like the sound of the filters in the video..
@@mattiasboden2329 and you already had a look on dash’s‘ beloved Phaseplant? It has the most powerful, yet flexible interface in a plug-in. And yes you may need further add-ins but what is already free of charge - is unbelievable…but, there are sales and some second hand dealers…also the upcoming Synthmaster 3 - don‘t know if they still offer the Synthmaster everything bundle (get every of their official soundpacks and SM 1&2 - and 3 when it will be released)
Lets expres the frustration on Minimal Audio not assignable / automated parts in the Fuse compressor: Band settings (1-6), - Input send mode, Mode setting (stereo / mid-side), Clipper on/off . Per band settings: Output, Crossover, Solo, Bypass, Threshold upwards, Ratio upward, Threshold downwards, Ratio downwards. A compressor in 2023 without automatable or assigned threshold values ..... really?
Its not restricted to.one daw and applies to multiple plugins. It's their internal development template that causes this limited accessibility. Minimal audio is aware and prioritises differently.
Vital was never an issue for me and yet everyone says it is, and I used a 10+ old cpu for ages and had no issues, tldr cpu is always a personal experience
If they can NOT offer BUY at once without no more hassel, I just do NOT want to buy it... if they just stick with that new RENT to OWN offer option!! I know a lot of people like RENT TO OWN, but I do not do any of that.. cause I only want to BUY at once from does developers that do create software plugins !! WHY make it DIFFICULT when one can make it easy. ?? THESE TWO OPTIONS aka : BUY AT ONCE & RENT TO OWN OPTION is the way to go!!
You're the least shilly guy i can think of who is on your level of content. I never get the feeling youre just doing it to sell a product. And my shill radar is pretty sensitive 😊
The only thing which has a similar feature set that I know of is Pigments (WT oscs, Granular and Additive + an advanced modulation/FX and sequencer system) which is $199. What else are you comparing to?
@@DashGlitch I guess $200 is the normal price now for any synth on the market. I guess Im comparing it to Pigments, Serum, Quanta, Izotope Iris, I get this plugin sounds awesome and the effects sound awesome, I might buy it if it goes on sale half price sometime, $200 for a synth plugin is hard for me to justify, I can almost buy a entire synth keyboard for that price
@@DashGlitch this is a break monster yo ! The presets and the engine make it special for cool breaks yo ,but THE coolest breaks WOoOOoOooOOoOo !...the name starts to make sense : ) . Repsect To The crew at Minimal Audio . Jaw dropped
Saying "Sorry" and listening to the community goes a long way these days. I forgave Bitwig, and I'll forgive them and give it another chance all things considered. Thanks for the down to earth video Dash.
Especially cause it's not just one person who is responsible. It could totally be that there's some people over there who are less easy to forgive, but we wouldn't wanna let them ruin it for all the people who did amazing work here.
Considering they literally called the product "See You Rent", I'm quite pleased with how quickly they responded to community feedback. Looks like a fun and capable synth. Will be checking it out myself soon.
I have zero problems with them as a company. They went back on tbr mistake they made almost immediately and didn't try to defend it and dig deeper. They are a smaller company that really do make some unique plugins that are obviously made by people who like to make music.
Everyone loves a good controversy so I see why it's easy to jump on the hate train. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt here.
The efx in this alone make it worth it. They are really good!
Great vid, don't worry about the whole subscription debacle. Everyone is learning how to make money is the ever changing digital world. I think most people who have watched lots of your stuff will know who you are and what you're about. Synth sounds great, I am excited to get into it.
Well said!
i had no intention of trying any new synths, but i will check this out (with the revamped pricing model) - nice video, thanks!
Great video as always man. dude that synth is sick I will have to check it out once I get through the new Falcon
Great synth. Went out and grabbed it after seeing Weaver’s news show detailing the pricing change a couple weeks back, and already using it in my new track
Very impresive .It is on my "to get "list .Not really a preset guy but the effect presets appeal quite a bit .
I hope they add a mod matrix and more routing options. It sounds super clean, great synth all around.
Something that i started to consider today it the inability to do stereo modulation of the lfos in current. However the things that i would normally attatch stereo modulation to in vital are the filters, delay, chorus phaser and reverb. Which have spred. Which you can modulate as well. And even with the pitch envelope on the sub osc being able to be recreated with an envelope in vital, having that set up already without deticating an osc that you could use for fm is incredible for work flow. What are you opinions on stereo modulation do the things with spread scratch your itch?
Yep you got it, spread on most of the important parameters is good enough and swift for workflow imho
liked the synth, liked the review
Thanks!
Outstanding video and very helpful! Thanks for your honest take and all your effort into putting this together for us.
🔥🔥Is the perpetual license for current a one time fee with no renewal involved? Just asking for clarification before I make the purchase, thanks in advance🙏🏻
Yes that's how I understand it to be now, you just don't get the "stream" of new content banks (that's on the subscription)
@@DashGlitch do you initially get a good amount of content banks once you make the full purchase, thanks for the fast reply
I'd say it's more of a Factory soundset that comes with the perpetual, there are some good sounds and it's nice if you make a lot of your own sounds, but if you're into loads of presets/banks etc, I'd think about the stream/sub plan
I think they should hire you The things you point out is precisely what they need to manifest on :)
I doubt people have got you down as being on the grift. You come across too nice for that.
We know everything everywhere is so cut throat especially in the muso Bizz.
Minimal do make great stuff , whatever possessed them to try that number is perplexing though.
i'll buy this synth soon enough i'm sure.
Thanks !
It does make sense 😉
Hey Dash! Do you think I should get this synth if I already have PhasePlant? Are there any feature this synth has that Phase Plant do not? It looks pretty nice so I'm wondering. Amazing insightfull videos as always! Thank you!!!
Warp modes that don’t require fancy setup, and the UI is a bit easier for beginners
Hey Dash, thank you for your reply. I see what you mean. It's a nice option too if not wanting to mess with Phase Plant inorder to get a sound; probably more practical for certain situations than PP. Thank you very much for your reply! @@DashGlitch
Rather get Synplant 2. Current isn't yet where it could be in my opinion. Whereas with Synplant you get something very unique right now...
Should try that one @@stephankreidl1999 as I'm very curious. I already own all the stuff from kHs, but always a pleasure to investigate everything. Thank you for your input :)
I think you've convinced me that I want this...thanks a lot, lol. One small thing though regarding the payment plans that I think might be worth addressing is, you said that the Yearly payment plan costs $10/month (that's how I understood it anyways) which, while true in the technical sense, is billed once yearly (i.e. $120 a pop). This may seem like a small thing but I know what it's like to be able to effort a few bucks more each month whereas paying the yearly fee (while lower in price per month) upfront would have meant waiting several to many months before I'd have the larger sum saved up. This may seem trivial but for people with impulse control issues, this can really be a roller coaster. Thanks for the great vid though, I really like the way this thing sounds. 👍
oh yes good point thanks
I bought Current last weekend.. its Very Cool! but feels a bit like a beta. 2023 synth without undo/redo? No mod matrix, You cant bypass a modulation, No remap etc. When u try to overwrite a preset its open a different window that doesn't pop in focus( I thought the software freeze and I lost my preset), there is no rename for presets... i guess Minimal audio still have some basic work to do.. 200$ price tag, I expect a premium quality all the way.
Thanks for the awesome video as always dash!
Yea I agree with most of those points yea, I believe we are expecting a decent update soon which should deal with some of the issues I raised which you also mentioned here :) so let's see
How did you get Rift in the effects instead of Polar Distortion?
same thing, in the initial release it was jus called Rift Distortion
26:00 THIS is the classic infected mushroom lead !
I am constantly battling with the question: do i really need another synth? So the question is, what can Current do that other synths can't? And I'm not talking about cool features or whatever, just fundamental functions. Isnt this just another synth?
Their fully functional effects that you would already be accustomed too since most are stand alone. With the presets for all of them. Something like Morph EQ is a bigger beast with access to the modulation capabilities. Being able to, right within the plugin, browse more presets and sounds is convenient. Since the interface is basically a combination of Serum and Pigments, in my opinion, the workflow is much more efficient in comparison.
I'd worry less about how this compares to other synths, sure, it's another synth, but try it, does it feel more intuitive and enable a better workflow for you to be more creative? Then that in itself it's a win compared to other synths.
You certainly don't need it, but you might want to have it
Did you watch the video or?
Love how that formant filtered saw synth sounded at the end. I've always wanted an envelope that recognizes when the note is supposed to reach 0 and pre-empt it with the release, I wish every one of them had some kind of toggle like that, applicable to almost any modulation. Can do it manually, especially with bpm synced envelopes it's not too big a deal, but that extra flexibility without modulations/copies of the synths for different note lengths is huge for creative flow.
Quick related tip: All my places where presets go have one called ''.Temporary'', I always overwrite over this one when quickly copy/pasting, and it always appears in the same spot. Does anyone know of any ways to copy automation data to different automations? Let's say you easily want to have two filters run in parallel, preferably individually tweakable, but a truly linked mode would be convenient too. I use FL, but I'd be interested if other DAWS have options for this too.
I'm pretty sure there's plugins that will let you link several things to the same automation source, but I'd like to be able to add parallel automation to something I didn't initially plan to do that to. If I could just copy automation data over to such a controller that affects multiple things, that'd work and give me both copy/paste and linking/merging capabilities.
You can assign the parameters to a macro and do it that way
@@DashGlitch Ty! I'm aware of those (And should use them more...), but the main issue is I usually start off without one. I automate one thing and realize I want something else in parallel later.
Weird thing about FL, I open the channel settings/automation editor window, and the save preset option there is gray. I'd copy/paste that over to a controller, but it seems I have to do it manually for no particular reason, we can save midi data etc. just fine
Edit: I'm looking into it now, it seems I've got it, mostly.
I can simply use the link to controller window to link to an existing clip! I don't get options as advanced as I'd like them this way, but there's options like default, inverted, log scale and steppy, just no custom formula/range over which it's active. I'd love being able to squish it into a range or simply cut off the movement at the extremes
One strange issue seems to be that I gotta make sure to pick everything I wanna assign before making copies of the automation clip, since anything added after will only respond to one of the automation clips, appearing seperately in the list... Strange.
Well, I click the automation clip in question and can add to a list of target link! Strange issue, but it's solved.
Except, it seems it won't take the formula into account on the automation clip it is now assigned to, even though it says it should.
Another discovery: State files... I guess they just don't consider it a preset, but it's there.
Well, I can save the automation data that ''broke'' cause I added a link after I copied the clip, now I save that data and create a copy of the original that works after I've linked something, simply paste automation data onto that. Not the best, but it works and still saves time overal
funny how this synth just went missing from the social media radar.... i think the subscription was a bad start
it doesn’t look like one can use the effects as effect plugins separate from the synth on a channel strip if one just has the rto synth?
I think the fx are separate, and think with rto plan they might be included but download sseperatly
@@DashGlitch thanks dash! i’ll look but i didn’t see in the downloads section for separate AUs. i’ll look again, probably just didn’t look hard enough
i always liked your content. that has not changed because of one mediocre synth 🤘🖤
okay if they’re changing the subscription I’m on board
Great video and somehow I like Minimal audio for their usability…but, 200€ for the power it delivers…na…falcon 3 also 199€ phaseplant 99€ (both on sale)
Yea I agree it's a tad steep as it is, I think the value is in the stream and coupons back to eventually buy outright if you know what I mean
Trying to decide between falcon 3 and current at the moment.. Though falcon 3 seems like a monster I've also heard it takes more time to make good patches, so I'm leaning towards current. Really like the sound of the filters in the video..
@@mattiasboden2329 and you already had a look on dash’s‘ beloved Phaseplant? It has the most powerful, yet flexible interface in a plug-in. And yes you may need further add-ins but what is already free of charge - is unbelievable…but, there are sales and some second hand dealers…also the upcoming Synthmaster 3 - don‘t know if they still offer the Synthmaster everything bundle (get every of their official soundpacks and SM 1&2 - and 3 when it will be released)
Considering to have some more relaxed sleep time..
You and me both!
Waiting patiently
12 and 6 in series is 18
Thanks! Damn such a small thing always confuses me XD
Good Work Dash😂
Do you still prefer phaseplant compared to this?
depends, phase plant is more advanced but this is quicker for basic sounds
Lets expres the frustration on Minimal Audio not assignable / automated parts in the Fuse compressor: Band settings (1-6), - Input send mode, Mode setting (stereo / mid-side), Clipper on/off . Per band settings: Output, Crossover, Solo, Bypass, Threshold upwards, Ratio upward, Threshold downwards, Ratio downwards. A compressor in 2023 without automatable or assigned threshold values ..... really?
TBH I didn't check that plugin, it's an OTT emulation which I already have loads, Also which DAW are you using?
Its not restricted to.one daw and applies to multiple plugins. It's their internal development template that causes this limited accessibility. Minimal audio is aware and prioritises differently.
is this VST less CPU-demanding compared to Vital?
Vital was never an issue for me and yet everyone says it is, and I used a 10+ old cpu for ages and had no issues, tldr cpu is always a personal experience
If they can NOT offer BUY at once without no more hassel, I just do NOT want to buy it... if they just stick with that new RENT to OWN offer option!! I know a lot of people like RENT TO OWN, but I do not do any of that.. cause I only want to BUY at once from does developers that do create software plugins !! WHY make it DIFFICULT when one can make it easy. ?? THESE TWO OPTIONS aka : BUY AT ONCE & RENT TO OWN OPTION is the way to go!!
Yeah I'm positive they are going to do rent to own and buying outright
Watch the video, time stamps for clarification, will b outright purchase and rto
You're the least shilly guy i can think of who is on your level of content. I never get the feeling youre just doing it to sell a product. And my shill radar is pretty sensitive 😊
yo thanks! appreciate that
$200 still seems overpriced for it. Looks great but many other cheaper alternatives that do similar things
The only thing which has a similar feature set that I know of is Pigments (WT oscs, Granular and Additive + an advanced modulation/FX and sequencer system) which is $199. What else are you comparing to?
@@DashGlitch I guess $200 is the normal price now for any synth on the market. I guess Im comparing it to Pigments, Serum, Quanta, Izotope Iris, I get this plugin sounds awesome and the effects sound awesome, I might buy it if it goes on sale half price sometime, $200 for a synth plugin is hard for me to justify, I can almost buy a entire synth keyboard for that price
RTO rent-to-own, hmm ? Still shitty. I want to buy my things to own them so then I have no more strings attached !
Happy to see the feedback has some influence. Thanks.
Watch video, outright purchase is an option.
what would you say is the secret power of this Synth ? This bass sounded very poppy and round 2
The Granular system and the FX for sure, but it's a really nice and intuitive "all-in-one"
@@DashGlitch this is a break monster yo ! The presets and the engine make it special for cool breaks yo ,but THE coolest breaks WOoOOoOooOOoOo !...the name starts to make sense : ) . Repsect To The crew at Minimal Audio . Jaw dropped