@@marwinjucker9864 To answer both of your questions I just speak to the microphone some sentences in Spanish. Then I just simply ask Chat GBT if my sentences are grammatically correct and then I continue the conversation so forth. Hope that helps!
The weakness training is fantastic. Thank you for the tips. I have been using ChatGPT for my Spanish but had not progressed to using it this way. Excellent video! Thank you.
I asked ChatGPT to think of an animal and give me one hint at a time in Spanish until I guess it correctly. Super fun game that you can do with ANY topic.
Thanks so much for this! Its definitely going to change how languages can be learned, especially for those who are too embarrassed to speak with natives yet
Yeah I've been using it similarly too and you're so right it's really powerful. I loved the gpt-4o demo they did the other day with the more realistic, conversational, voice features, that's going to make things really great I think.
Ai is fantastic for speaking with it. I have been using it for a few months and I can say is really good. Only the downside is sometimes it doesn’t recognize the language and mix.from instance,I was talking in Portuguese and it responded me in Spanish 😂
I totally understand what you mean by that , besides AI makes a lot of mistakes and misunderstand some concepts however if you don’t have linguistic exchange partner it’s practical and really useful to play with it. Ask it to give a list of questions,to correct you and to maintain a good line of discussions. AI is a really good breakthrough to me Have a good day 🌸
Thanks, this was really useful. I had been using the browser version and didn’t know the free app had the voice option. I am also a French learner, and one thing I would suggest is not to do translations too much. At your level you can give the prompts in French and “converse” more naturally that way, and you learn to think in the target language rather than translating all the time.
These are insanely useful tips. Also, good job with your accent. It's quite good for someone at the late beginner/early intermediate stage of learning the language.
I have the same problem with Spanish. I was trying to learn that way some time ago, but it speaks too fast. This version of GPT cannot control the voice, so it won't work until the new version is available to me.
I agree with you. The stres and timing are crucial to accelerate the language. And GPT voice mode is perfect. Only one dropbucks is that if you as for very simple sentences, you can quic get rid of of credits and mus wait some time to next tokens portion
It might help with your past verb tenses if you think of the passé composé as a SNAPSHOT of the past (you can see the clear edges!), while the imparfait is a video or film. The difference is clearest when you pair the two in the same sentence and you can “see” the snapshot “crash” into the video. For example, you were crossing the street (see the video) when a car hit you (snapshot). The same thing is happening in English, but we don’t even think about it: Je regardais la télé quand mon chien m’a mordu la jambe - I was watching TV when my dog bit my leg il étudiait le français quand son ami a frappé à la porte - Hé was studying French when his friend knocked on the door. 👍
she ate dinner is not really "elle a mangé le dinner" which is litteral I got it but we simply say "elle a dîné". But the rest when u introduce yourself etc is tremendous with this app; into bargain of that, the accent is there...wow.
I later asked it what is the best way to tell someone you ate dinner in french instead of just translating my english sentence and it use dîné the way you did as well, so I think just asking a ton of questions is the best way to really zero in on the right answer. For the accent, when you prompt in French, the accent is great. When you prompt in english for it to say something in French it has an english-ish accent and sounds odd.
"I walked" and "I was walking" are "past tense" and "past perfect tense". Past perfect is great for authors telling a story that happened a long time ago. Pretty standard stuff for writers to use--even without knowing the name of the grammatical context (because the names don't matter--I'm just a nerd). This is a super cool series of ideas. Thanks for putting this together for us!
Hi I just wondered are you using a voice plug in for chat gpt I used some in Italian and they were terrible but that was about 6 months ago thanks Nick
Hi Braunventure That looks like a great tool you’re presenting today. But for the distinction between passé composé and imparfait I suggest you not use translation with isolated sentences, because a lot of times you can translate “he did” (for example) with either, depending on the context and on the nuance you want to express. It’s not a 1 to 1 translation. I think it’s a much better idea to work with a text in this case (and in general it works better too). Cheers!
Thanks for the tip. I have played around with having it give me an English paragraph where I only translate one sentence to do the translation with more context. Also translating with 2 verbs in the past to distinguish. I'll keep working on it 🤠
@@braunventures Sweet! Do you feel it's a little better this way? Another idea of something that could help even more with imparfait and passé composé is to read easy and short stories with these two tenses... and then try to observe and get a feeling about when you should use one or the other... but without establishing big theories about it and without necessarily translating each sentence. I think the distinction passé composé x imparfait is one of the distinctions that may require a lot of exposure and feedback on your own usage of tthem until you "master" it, so no need to rush ^^
It's a great tool to assist your language learning journey. As a native French speaker, the first two sentences you used as examples were somewhat off. The translations provided did not match was was being said.
This is great and I just tried it, but the message limit maxes out at 40 every 3 hours. My spanish pronunciation is #$%^ so I quickly run out of practice time using this method.
@@braunventures Unfortunately it doesn't. It's capped at 40 for now. And apparently version 4o is free now? I'm wondering why I'm paying over 20$ per month.
Actually, he did say that passé composé was „I walked“ and imparfait was „I was walking“. A nice general rule, but one that often doesn`t work (regrettably!). And passé composé can be simple past or present perfect in English. It all depends on context as noted above.
@@Mega-mo8en It‘s just not that simple - regrettably! Passé composé is generally used for a single completed action in the past, so simple past in English. Imparfait is used for something without a definite beginning and end, often the description of an action that was going on when something else happened, so the classic past continuous in English. It is also used for situations that English describes using „used to do something“ and for descriptions of situations in the past. Passé composé CAN be English present perfect, but there are common situations using present perfect in English that use the present tense in French. J‘habite à Paris depuis 2 ans = I have lived in Paris for 2 years. J‘ai habité à Paris pendant 2 ans = I lived in Paris for two years. J‘habitais à Paris quand France a gagné la Coupe du Monde = I was living in Paris when France won the Word Cup. J‘ai déjà déjeuné aujourd‘hui. = I have already had lunch today.
the possible weakness of such training vs real teacher is a feedback in case of you are failing. What would model tell you in case you mistranslated or had a bad pronunciation and your speack was not recognised properly. It could be a frustrating thing trying to explain the model what and how you would like to be corrected.
I don’t know about the new voice, but when I tried it with German with the current one, it sounded pretty German but with an American accent. It’s ok coz I at least know it’s not a native speaker, it would be good still for real time speaking practice
@@shamicentertainment1262 so I've found the accent changes depending on the language of the prompt. When I prompt in French it sounds way more French than when I prompt in English to give me a French sentence
With an AI pin and microphone, you're probably not going to need to speak the foreign language anyway! But, I'll still learn it because I enjoy it and it's easier to get to know someone
You say in the comments that you demoed the free version in this video, but when I tried GPT-4o, downloaded to an Android phone about a month ago, there is only voice to text, and it only allowed me to do one message before prompting me to upgrade to the paid version. What's the secret to getting this free version?
Sorry, but I'm not sure why that would be. When you google it you can see they have released this feature in November 2023. Its the little headphone icon on the bottom right
I'm sure there's tons of improvement to be had in my prompting. I asked it to tell me things in French slang once so I think you can request less formal responses as well
mais personne ne sais quand on utilise le passé composé ou l'imparfait quand on l'utilise arrêter de vous prendre la tête avec ça .. on communique c'est suffisant a moins que ce soit pour un boulot et que tu doives(devoir au subjonctif 😂😂 ) absolument avoir le niveau C1.. alors la le meilleur c'est de lire des vrais livres .. gagner la guerre (jean philippe jaworsky )par exemple 😂 i try chat gpt to learn russian, but i definitely like better reverso + short story .. when you have the level to tchat with gpt no need to speak to a machine anymore .. you probably already reach a good level . anyway i struggle too with the english past tense 😂😂 ps : j'ai même pas le niveau C1 en français 😂 c'est lamentable hein
Si ta première langue n'est pas le français, félicitations. Donne-toi la peine de lire encore quelques livres en français -- ce que tu fais déjà, d'après ce que tu écris -- et tu atteindras aisément le niveau C1.
The American accent this thing's French has is atrocious, if you internalize this, you'll always sound like an American. And you probably won't even be able to pronounce some of the important nasalized vowels or sounds English doesn't have like "e" (similar to German "ö"). Before this is of any use, it needs to be able to do multi-language responses where its language configuration can change mid-sentence. Or you need to use the purely French version from the start, it uses the correct speech synthesis model.
Just listened to the second half of the video. Seems to me you get exactly the same from a French phrase book for tourists. In what way does this way of using ChatGPT make learning easier, faster, more efficient? What am I missing?
Yeah the French it spoke sounded so American, at least phonetically. But I suppose that's because the guy asked ChatGPT in English, and the machine sort of kept using English phonetics even in other languages. Had the conversation been 100% in French from the start, it would probably have sounded perfectly French.
On the other hand it's really difficult to find a native speaker from the target country if you are not there (sometimes even if you are there). At least this way people in that country will laugh at you perhaps but at least you will get your point across isnt it?
@@stevencats7137 there's youtube, youglish and other places. There's movies and cartoons in different languages. There's language exchange apps like hellotalk
The accent and use of natural language aren’t great but more to the point, how much computing power and consequent carbon emissions do these apps generate?
Ignore the haters. This is brilliant. I will try to find a way to do this on my commutes to work
Also with your conversation exercise it's useful to ask that ChatGPT corrects each of your mistakes before asking the next question
I was talking to chatgpt like Siri, one sentence commands. Embarrassed at how badly I was underutilizing it. Merci! This is going to be a huge help.
This method has helped me immensely with my Spanish learning. AI is going to completely change the game for language learning. Great video!
I wanna learn Spanish too! Do you have any tips for me?
Any tips on how you used chagpt on learning Spanish? What prompts do you use?
@@marwinjucker9864 To answer both of your questions I just speak to the microphone some sentences in Spanish. Then I just simply ask Chat GBT if my sentences are grammatically correct and then I continue the conversation so forth. Hope that helps!
The weakness training is fantastic. Thank you for the tips. I have been using ChatGPT for my Spanish but had not progressed to using it this way. Excellent video! Thank you.
Thank you! I bet there's even more that we haven't thought of that can be done with this. Excited to improve for that next trip to a foreign land
I asked ChatGPT to think of an animal and give me one hint at a time in Spanish until I guess it correctly. Super fun game that you can do with ANY topic.
That's a really really cool idea! love it, thanks for sharing!
Amazing ! I practice small talk in five languages every day using ChatGPT.
Thanks so much for this! Its definitely going to change how languages can be learned, especially for those who are too embarrassed to speak with natives yet
Yeah I've been using it similarly too and you're so right it's really powerful.
I loved the gpt-4o demo they did the other day with the more realistic, conversational, voice features, that's going to make things really great I think.
That's awesome, it should only get better. I'm sure there are even more ways to use it than we have thought of so far
Ai is fantastic for speaking with it. I have been using it for a few months and I can say is really good. Only the downside is sometimes it doesn’t recognize the language and mix.from instance,I was talking in Portuguese and it responded me in Spanish 😂
Haha yeah it happens, sometimes I repeat myself but overall it's mind-blowing
you'll learn to speak as awkward as that AI speaks. Try that AI on your first language, you'll see
I totally understand what you mean by that , besides AI makes a lot of mistakes and misunderstand some concepts however if you don’t have linguistic exchange partner it’s practical and really useful to play with it. Ask it to give a list of questions,to correct you and to maintain a good line of discussions. AI is a really good breakthrough to me
Have a good day 🌸
Thanks, this was really useful. I had been using the browser version and didn’t know the free app had the voice option. I am also a French learner, and one thing I would suggest is not to do translations too much. At your level you can give the prompts in French and “converse” more naturally that way, and you learn to think in the target language rather than translating all the time.
These are insanely useful tips. Also, good job with your accent. It's quite good for someone at the late beginner/early intermediate stage of learning the language.
Thanks you, I'm glad it was useful for you!
@@braunventures been to get a French coach to improve your pronunciation?
This is awesome and super helpful! The prompt is everything!
Holy hell it speaks French super fast! Seems faster than a human would speak.
Yeah for sure, although it sometimes sounds that fast when talking to a native speaker 😂
They speak fast, just like we do, unlike language training where these usually use very slow speakers. ChatGP seems to speak at a normal rate.
I have the same problem with Spanish. I was trying to learn that way some time ago, but it speaks too fast. This version of GPT cannot control the voice, so it won't work until the new version is available to me.
@@davk this is a funny solution but I have gotten past this problem when I want it to slow down by asking it to pause between every word
Very American accented French though, I wonder if you can change it
awesome suggestions! Good luck with your French acquisition
I agree with you. The stres and timing are crucial to accelerate the language. And GPT voice mode is perfect. Only one dropbucks is that if you as for very simple sentences, you can quic get rid of of credits and mus wait some time to next tokens portion
Wow! Going to give this a try! Thank you for explaining how to do this!👍
Bonne chance avec ton français. Tu te débrouille déjà assez bien :).
Great video and I've subscribed to keep following you, keep it up with the good work especially tricks and hacks with ChatGPT
It might help with your past verb tenses if you think of the passé composé as a SNAPSHOT of the past (you can see the clear edges!), while the imparfait is a video or film. The difference is clearest when you pair the two in the same sentence and you can “see” the snapshot “crash” into the video. For example, you were crossing the street (see the video) when a car hit you (snapshot). The same thing is happening in English, but we don’t even think about it:
Je regardais la télé quand mon chien m’a mordu la jambe - I was watching TV when my dog bit my leg
il étudiait le français quand son ami a frappé à la porte - Hé was studying French when his friend knocked on the door. 👍
Thank you for this explanation! I'm excited to I've day understand this without thinking about it through practice
she ate dinner is not really "elle a mangé le dinner" which is litteral I got it but we simply say "elle a dîné". But the rest when u introduce yourself etc is tremendous with this app; into bargain of that, the accent is there...wow.
I later asked it what is the best way to tell someone you ate dinner in french instead of just translating my english sentence and it use dîné the way you did as well, so I think just asking a ton of questions is the best way to really zero in on the right answer.
For the accent, when you prompt in French, the accent is great. When you prompt in english for it to say something in French it has an english-ish accent and sounds odd.
"I walked" and "I was walking" are "past tense" and "past perfect tense". Past perfect is great for authors telling a story that happened a long time ago. Pretty standard stuff for writers to use--even without knowing the name of the grammatical context (because the names don't matter--I'm just a nerd).
This is a super cool series of ideas. Thanks for putting this together for us!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the comment!
These are some great tips! Thank you very much. Will try them out for my Spanish :)
Thanks for watching! I even tested it with Czech and it worked great 👍
Oh my god, the gpt4o voice model is still not released. This is still the old one.
Thank you for your useful advice !!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant ! Thanks for sharing 😀
amazing, great to know. I need to try this out
it's absolutely mental and will only get better
Thank you
Hi I just wondered are you using a voice plug in for chat gpt I used some in Italian and they were terrible but that was about 6 months ago thanks Nick
hey Nick, no I just used the voice feature on the chatgpt android app. you can use whatever language you want when talking
Hi Braunventure That looks like a great tool you’re presenting today. But for the distinction between passé composé and imparfait I suggest you not use translation with isolated sentences, because a lot of times you can translate “he did” (for example) with either, depending on the context and on the nuance you want to express. It’s not a 1 to 1 translation. I think it’s a much better idea to work with a text in this case (and in general it works better too). Cheers!
Thanks for the tip. I have played around with having it give me an English paragraph where I only translate one sentence to do the translation with more context. Also translating with 2 verbs in the past to distinguish. I'll keep working on it 🤠
@@braunventures Sweet! Do you feel it's a little better this way? Another idea of something that could help even more with imparfait and passé composé is to read easy and short stories with these two tenses... and then try to observe and get a feeling about when you should use one or the other... but without establishing big theories about it and without necessarily translating each sentence. I think the distinction passé composé x imparfait is one of the distinctions that may require a lot of exposure and feedback on your own usage of tthem until you "master" it, so no need to rush ^^
It's a great tool to assist your language learning journey. As a native French speaker, the first two sentences you used as examples were somewhat off. The translations provided did not match was was being said.
sounds good, thanks for letting me know!
The imparfay 😂😂😂
If you ever come to Türkiye please let me know, so I can buy you a drink. Your video helped me a lot. Regards
Thank you! We can share a çay 😊
@@braunventures your çay is ready anytime you want 😍
Je n'arrive pas à croire qu'au debut l'app te répond avec un accent américain ! Et puis plus tard l'accent devient authentique. Sidérant!
Vraiment incredible
Thank you. Great stuff
Which version of GPT are you using?
I was using whatever was the default on the android app when this was released in this video, not sure exactly
brilliant
Did you use gpt+ for this?
No, I used the free version
This is great and I just tried it, but the message limit maxes out at 40 every 3 hours. My spanish pronunciation is #$%^ so I quickly run out of practice time using this method.
Haha true true, I think the paid version gives you more prompts too. I use it so much for practice I'm starting to justify paying for it to myself...
@@braunventures Unfortunately it doesn't. It's capped at 40 for now. And apparently version 4o is free now? I'm wondering why I'm paying over 20$ per month.
@@futureproofd oh really?? Interesting that makes it way less appealing
I feel people in the future
the second part of your sentence?
Amazing video and tips
Thank you for watching!
What does the app look like?
Is there a link?
The name of the app is in the title. Just search for it. You don't want to be clicking on random links in TH-cam comments.
Merci!
Which gpt chat app are you using?
ChatGPT on android
My ChatCPT insists on only written discourse.
same…
Oh so its only giving you written and not the voice models?
@@sirmely Yes. But the iPad version includes voice.
Passé composé is not equivalent to 'was + -ing'. It's equivalent to 'have +-ed'.
It's just -ed (no have). E.g.
I walked to school
We talked about it
Can you give me an example of what you are suggesting?
@@DissonantCat I’d say it’s all about context;
I walked to school that day = passé composé.
I walked to school everyday last year = imparfait.
Actually, he did say that passé composé was „I walked“ and imparfait was „I was walking“. A nice general rule, but one that often doesn`t work (regrettably!). And passé composé can be simple past or present perfect in English. It all depends on context as noted above.
@@michaelmedlinger6399 isn it for Imparfait Walked and Passe compose Have Walked
@@Mega-mo8en It‘s just not that simple - regrettably! Passé composé is generally used for a single completed action in the past, so simple past in English. Imparfait is used for something without a definite beginning and end, often the description of an action that was going on when something else happened, so the classic past continuous in English. It is also used for situations that English describes using „used to do something“ and for descriptions of situations in the past. Passé composé CAN be English present perfect, but there are common situations using present perfect in English that use the present tense in French. J‘habite à Paris depuis 2 ans = I have lived in Paris for 2 years. J‘ai habité à Paris pendant 2 ans = I lived in Paris for two years. J‘habitais à Paris quand France a gagné la Coupe du Monde = I was living in Paris when France won the Word Cup. J‘ai déjà déjeuné aujourd‘hui. = I have already had lunch today.
the possible weakness of such training vs real teacher is a feedback in case of you are failing. What would model tell you in case you mistranslated or had a bad pronunciation and your speack was not recognised properly. It could be a frustrating thing trying to explain the model what and how you would like to be corrected.
Merci
wow awesome, thanks
Il a un drôle d'accent ton GPT.
ouais, pas un parisien 😂
I don’t know about the new voice, but when I tried it with German with the current one, it sounded pretty German but with an American accent. It’s ok coz I at least know it’s not a native speaker, it would be good still for real time speaking practice
@@shamicentertainment1262 so I've found the accent changes depending on the language of the prompt. When I prompt in French it sounds way more French than when I prompt in English to give me a French sentence
With an AI pin and microphone, you're probably not going to need to speak the foreign language anyway! But, I'll still learn it because I enjoy it and it's easier to get to know someone
yeah i think learning the language will always be best for the human connection too
Wow
You say in the comments that you demoed the free version in this video, but when I tried GPT-4o, downloaded to an Android phone about a month ago, there is only voice to text, and it only allowed me to do one message before prompting me to upgrade to the paid version. What's the secret to getting this free version?
Sorry, but I'm not sure why that would be. When you google it you can see they have released this feature in November 2023. Its the little headphone icon on the bottom right
😊!
👌👌
what app is this?
Chatgpt mobile app (Android)
@@AfroKing. Yep!
Which chat GPT app is this?
ChatGPT app on android
@@braunventures Ahh okay I have iPhone. That's more than likely why I couldn't find it
@@thomasorth-hall4738 There is an iPhone app too!! apps.apple.com/us/app/chatgpt/id6448311069
@@braunventures Ah thank you!!
✋🏻✋🏻✋🏻This app is free or you need to pay monthly for it?
You can use it for free, but if you want more features you can also pay $20/month. In the video I'm using the free version
The responses from ChatGPT were very formal. Maybe a different prompt would be better.
I'm sure there's tons of improvement to be had in my prompting. I asked it to tell me things in French slang once so I think you can request less formal responses as well
Past perfect, basically.
I think chatgpt
Did you eat
Can you please share the name of the app?
ChatGPT. I'm using the android app
mais personne ne sais quand on utilise le passé composé ou l'imparfait quand on l'utilise arrêter de vous prendre la tête avec ça .. on communique c'est suffisant a moins que ce soit pour un boulot et que tu doives(devoir au subjonctif 😂😂 ) absolument avoir le niveau C1..
alors la le meilleur c'est de lire des vrais livres .. gagner la guerre (jean philippe jaworsky )par exemple 😂
i try chat gpt to learn russian, but i definitely like better reverso + short story .. when you have the level to tchat with gpt no need to speak to a machine anymore .. you probably already reach a good level .
anyway i struggle too with the english past tense 😂😂
ps : j'ai même pas le niveau C1 en français 😂 c'est lamentable hein
Si ta première langue n'est pas le français, félicitations. Donne-toi la peine de lire encore quelques livres en français -- ce que tu fais déjà, d'après ce que tu écris -- et tu atteindras aisément le niveau C1.
I think his point is that it's good for practice, which it is. You are right about reading... Also watching. Lots of great french movies out there.
The American accent this thing's French has is atrocious, if you internalize this, you'll always sound like an American. And you probably won't even be able to pronounce some of the important nasalized vowels or sounds English doesn't have like "e" (similar to German "ö").
Before this is of any use, it needs to be able to do multi-language responses where its language configuration can change mid-sentence. Or you need to use the purely French version from the start, it uses the correct speech synthesis model.
Just listened to the second half of the video. Seems to me you get exactly the same from a French phrase book for tourists. In what way does this way of using ChatGPT make learning easier, faster, more efficient? What am I missing?
I wrote commect
wow that "french voice" got a thicker accent than you ,lol
lol that French was weird, don't learn languages from chatgtp
Yeah the French it spoke sounded so American, at least phonetically. But I suppose that's because the guy asked ChatGPT in English, and the machine sort of kept using English phonetics even in other languages. Had the conversation been 100% in French from the start, it would probably have sounded perfectly French.
The same happens with Portuguese. I have seen theses apps teaching Portuguese and the sentences and pronunciation are not good. I'm a native speaker.
ok great so he should go back to reading textbooks thanks for the input
On the other hand it's really difficult to find a native speaker from the target country if you are not there (sometimes even if you are there). At least this way people in that country will laugh at you perhaps but at least you will get your point across isnt it?
@@stevencats7137 there's youtube, youglish and other places. There's movies and cartoons in different languages. There's language exchange apps like hellotalk
80% of French is.....
Pronunciation.
Why speak French like a foreigner?
Faites attention à ne pas copier son accent car pour l'instant il est assez mauvais.
The accent and use of natural language aren’t great but more to the point, how much computing power and consequent carbon emissions do these apps generate?
You and ChatGpt can’t even pronounce imparfait correctly😂