We love having a second door. I can get up and go outside to start the day without waking up the kids. It's always been a bonus for us. Thanks for your videos Josh.
You’ve been giving me angina lately with the dinettes in the screenshots, but thankfully there is the option to replace the uncomfortable dinette with a sofa or theater seating and a portable table👍kids can sit on a bunk with their phone or tablet😂
Ben talk to me about the queen mattress? Did you alter the plywood underneath or just lay it right down? Still room to move around? Can you still easily access storage underneath?
This floorplan has so much going for it, but I’m always disappointed when I see no standard solar for a 12V fridge, and a plastic toilet and 4 inch fart fan in a $50,000 RV☹️
Great set up for a family with one kid. I'd remove the top bunk and mount a little tv in the bunk area. You're right. Electronics do entertain kids for hours. We were in NH one summer. Hey dude, I'm going down the natural rock waterslides...you coming!!? What a great day away from the games and tablets! 👌
Definitely shopping for this model outfitted with the dinette and freestanding table. Finding a 2023 in stock in Michigan though is proving difficult. Also going with the dinette gives you an additional outside storage compartment in the slide.
We love the Rockwood 2706 but it’s a little bigger than we’d like (our last camper was a Roo 23ss). I wish Rockwood would do a floor plan like this in the 24-25’ box range without the Murphy bed setup like the 2509s. I would love to see what Rockwood could do with their fit and finishes on a floor plan like this!
I have this camper with the L shape couch/hideabed. The only draw back to that seating arrangement is using the back cargo door. We load a 10’ kayak and that’s about all you can fit lengthwise because the L on the couch cuts off the space. 12v fridge for sure and we don’t mind the outdoor sink not being plumbed. Less water going in the grey tank…
Nathan do the grey tanks operate as one true 60 gallon tank? Also we are getting the L-sofa very good ti know about the kayak bc we were planning on getting one.
@@beginagainben6276 No, it has split grey tanks. One for the bathroom which fills up pretty quick and one for the kitchen that hardly ever fills up. As for the kayak the L lounge which is great but about 10’ kayaks are going to be the limit length wise.
4:45 I don't like a dinette. They tend to become a "catch all" instead of an eating surface... at least in my trailer. I just removed it and it's when the cat tree is located. I also have an rolling counter there, because I have no space on mine. Why they put the sink sideways, I will never understand! I'll take a "Hide A Bed" ! Even if I don't use it, it's a nice comfy couch. 😁
I love how this trailer looks and really wanted one until I looked at it closer. There are 3 major killers on this: 1) tongue weight is not really half ton towable. By the time you load up the trailer it's going to be probably 800lbs or more, now add a typical family of 4 in the cab and you have 600lbs+ of people. Now add in all your stuff... Poof blown right past all but a handful of half ton trucks. 2) camp queen. 3) I'm not about to pay 45k+ for a camp kitchen with a dog dish sink.
I disagree. It all depends of your tow vehicle ratings. Plenty of 1/2 trucks out there with low payloads for sure. Real world experience for me here. I tow this unit without any issues and stay below the max rating for my 16 navigator L. I have been all over the country visiting the national parks since 2020. The tongue with the tanks on it is only 650 lbs. My Navigator L has a 1,500 payload capacity and 900 lbs at the bumper. I also use a Hensley Hitch, this is huge and I highly recommend it. No sway at all, 100% eliminated. My combine weight is usually 14,300 lbs, well below the truck's 15,000 maximum. I have been visiting the scales on a regular basis to get a good baseline and understand how the number of passenger and cargo will affect all the variables. Tows great, the ecoboost pulls it up the mountains in Colorado at 70 mph without a sweat.
That is an awesome camper perfect for the family We are coming this Saturday to look at 1 but with interest rates and down payments being so high we may have to wait till next year😢
With the bunk space, I prefer having the theater seats. If the bunk space is used on a trip, I tend to use the outside of the camper more. If I'm couples camping, we tend to spend more time inside. Giggity!
I prefer the Whitehawk 25 MBH instead of this. I don't need my own private bedroom in an rv. And, that walk around space around the bed in the bedroom is now used only for accessing the bed. If it were all open, then that space would be part of the overall floorplan, making it feel larger.
Josh, I’ve been an avid watcher of your travel trailer reviews for a couple years now and appreciate all your honesty in those travel trailers reviews. My family and I are currently in the market for an upgrade as we have started to out grow our current Jayco X213. After watching countless video reviews and only being able to check out the Grand Designs Imagine 2400BH, we are torn between the Imagine and Jayco Jay Feather 24BH. Any insight you maybe be able to shed as to what you’d pick for a family of 4 would be awesome. I’d definitely appreciate the help, as would my wife!
They both have a few key features the other doesn’t. A few key factors: Jay feather: Longer warranty Dual azdel walls Plywood roofing Better solar OPTIONS but no base solar Cargo door for bunks No carpet Imagine has: True queen bed Better BASE solar (lesser options) Better bedside storage I think better holding tank capacities Sometimes it boils down to which has the key feature that works best for you And if those don’t break the bank, then shop the price tags!
This is what we wanted to buy, we settled for a 2017 23BHM. After watching halfagazillion of your videos, I’ve determined we have the strangest floor plan ever made.
Thanks Josh, I love some parts of this and other parts are a deal breaker. I don't like keeping $8,000 bikes on a bumper rack, so the internal cargo storage is perfect. I don't have kids, can the bunk area be repurposed? I would like to remove that lower bunk area. The really bad part is using the restroom from the bedroom in the night when the slide is closed. We usually boondock in a parking lot a night or two on long trips.
I have a Winnie 2801bhs that’s very similar to this. It’s 2 feet longer with no bedroom door, don’t see how I’d ever use that. I am jealous of the tankless water heater, can anybody tell me if I could swap mine out and if that would be DIY? One note about campers like this, my girlfriend doesn’t like the bunkhouse because friends often seem to come along. She says our 5th wheel, whenever that happens, will NOT have guest space!
@@JoshtheRVNerd OK...why do they insist on imposing theater seating. There are a couple of buiders who have "flip down" theatre seating and those guys are who I'm most interested in purchasing from. But, as you know I'm deeply opposed to theatre seating...I suspect I'm alone in the desert shrieking my opposition to that but I love cuddling with my SO...and will never consider buying a product where TS is the only option.
@@beginagainben6276 There seems to be no good way for me to list that. If I list them as 60gal, then it doesn't feel right If I list them as 30+30gal, then people don't understand it Without getting super wordy on a spec chart there seems to be no way to effectively communicate this
@@JoshtheRVNerd I get it. Need concise and succinct on screen. Well for anyone serious about this model. Will prob look in these cimments and see this here 🙌
Hummmm Hope they don't really rock like that 😳. I think this is beautiful and I like that storage space. Space for a hamper or a trash barrel. Jayco doesnt have any small ones like this that are good for sporadic. And I like the fireplace lol etc..
I really like this trailer but GVWR 7500lbs is a little tight for my preference, since my Ranger has a max tow of 7500. It WILL tow 7500 all day long. I've done it. But I didn't like it.
I like this unit too bad they don't have the bathroom closer to the master bed ill have to wake up the kids 10 times during the night going to the restroom
_starts video_ Specs come on screen "30 feet long, and only 1300 pounds of cargo capacity?" _stops video_ That's a deal breaker right there. It's practically useless.
The deal breaker for me is the camp kitchen. It is a complete waste of space and what they are doing with the fittings (sink/tap) is ridiculous. I will take the extra storage space and just put up a folding table and set my BBQ and mini fridge on top and presto outdoor kitchen.
Not only is HR working on disciplinary action for Josh, but the GSMHAA (gas station murder hobo association of America) has reached out through social media expressing their profound dissatisfaction with Josh's unrealistic depiction of their members.
We love having a second door. I can get up and go outside to start the day without waking up the kids. It's always been a bonus for us. Thanks for your videos Josh.
I agree personally Zach. Surprises me how many people don’t like that 2nd door
They have ELIMINATED IT going forward on 24bh builds. 😢terrible idea
Great video! Thank you!!! Your videos have helped a great deal. You are appreciated
You are so welcome! And ty 😊
I would put my coffee pot in the pantry to keep my counter space in the kitchen free. I love this for plan for its flexibility.
That's a great idea!
You’ve been giving me angina lately with the dinettes in the screenshots, but thankfully there is the option to replace the uncomfortable dinette with a sofa or theater seating and a portable table👍kids can sit on a bunk with their phone or tablet😂
At least you keep watching long enough
Not planning to switch from our 25brds Rockwood but this thing really hits all the points and would be a contender for sure.
We have the 2022. Queen matress fits great. We love the 2nd door in the bedroom.
Awesome ty!
Ben talk to me about the queen mattress? Did you alter the plywood underneath or just lay it right down? Still room to move around? Can you still easily access storage underneath?
Love the second door. I will likely choose this floor plan over Winnebago and Alliance Delta because of it.
I think they're handy. Some folks don't care for them but I do like them
This trailer is as close to perfect I've seen.. would probably do the u dinette
I miss the tootsie toaster but, the forced air heater vent will do. Cargo is king. Max Solar! Theater seating for me. Thanks Nerd.
👍🏻
This floorplan has so much going for it, but I’m always disappointed when I see no standard solar for a 12V fridge, and a plastic toilet and 4 inch fart fan in a $50,000 RV☹️
I like a second door , this is a very viable choice for my needs .Ni e job Josh , even if ya did flub a few times . Shows that your human .
That I am
Great set up for a family with one kid. I'd remove the top bunk and mount a little tv in the bunk area. You're right. Electronics do entertain kids for hours. We were in NH one summer. Hey dude, I'm going down the natural rock waterslides...you coming!!? What a great day away from the games and tablets! 👌
I've seen people remove top bunks and it always amazes me how much bigger everything feels inside when you do that
Definitely shopping for this model outfitted with the dinette and freestanding table. Finding a 2023 in stock in Michigan though is proving difficult. Also going with the dinette gives you an additional outside storage compartment in the slide.
😲😆😂 Fitted sheets are tough to get on the bed Josh!!!
Agree, the water heater location is a safety concerning and who wants the exhaust blowing at you while under the awning
We love the Rockwood 2706 but it’s a little bigger than we’d like (our last camper was a Roo 23ss). I wish Rockwood would do a floor plan like this in the 24-25’ box range without the Murphy bed setup like the 2509s. I would love to see what Rockwood could do with their fit and finishes on a floor plan like this!
I have said the same thing!!
Cute rig.
Definitely 2 doors my wonderful friend! 🖒🤗 🖒
Thank you 🤗
@@JoshtheRVNerd Certainly Uncle Josh!
Prefer the u dinette
Love the 2nd door
Great having the baggage door and d hooks
Prefer 12 volt fridge
Prefer electronic/gas tank heater
Thanks for sharing
You'll never see a person ignore a call as quckily as Josh when HR is calling.... 😅
“new phone who dis”
If Bish's HR called me I'd be like :"wut up Bish?!?!"
I have this camper with the L shape couch/hideabed. The only draw back to that seating arrangement is using the back cargo door. We load a 10’ kayak and that’s about all you can fit lengthwise because the L on the couch cuts off the space. 12v fridge for sure and we don’t mind the outdoor sink not being plumbed. Less water going in the grey tank…
I love input from real Owners. I think it’s the best kind.
Also looking to purchase this model. Think a residential queen mattress would fit?
Nathan do the grey tanks operate as one true 60 gallon tank? Also we are getting the L-sofa very good ti know about the kayak bc we were planning on getting one.
@@beginagainben6276 No, it has split grey tanks. One for the bathroom which fills up pretty quick and one for the kitchen that hardly ever fills up. As for the kayak the L lounge which is great but about 10’ kayaks are going to be the limit length wise.
@@beginagainben6276 no, they do not. Two 30gal separate tanks. one for kitchen and one for bathroom.
This may be the perfect family SUV (Durango tow n go or Tahoe) entry camper.
I could see it on those heavier Durango’s
I love everything about this except the second door. There should be a window next to it at least
I think the front awning arm prevents an extra window
I thought I was the only one who suffered because of their spouse's dreams. Thank you for letting me know I'm not alone.
Hahahhaa
Sorry about being late, but I still want to know how is your napper (Scottish slang) for your head
All good 😆
4:45
I don't like a dinette. They tend to become a "catch all" instead of an eating surface... at least in my trailer. I just removed it and it's when the cat tree is located. I also have an rolling counter there, because I have no space on mine. Why they put the sink sideways, I will never understand!
I'll take a "Hide A Bed" ! Even if I don't use it, it's a nice comfy couch. 😁
Yeah I get that but my wife is too alpha level organized to let me just dump everything on the table so… lol
Great space for the eBike
Absolutely!!
The outlet in the Pantry-Tainment can be used as a charging area for cordless power tools and or a cordless vacuum or the resemblance of.
Ah Ty!
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV
My pleasure brother
I love how this trailer looks and really wanted one until I looked at it closer. There are 3 major killers on this: 1) tongue weight is not really half ton towable. By the time you load up the trailer it's going to be probably 800lbs or more, now add a typical family of 4 in the cab and you have 600lbs+ of people. Now add in all your stuff... Poof blown right past all but a handful of half ton trucks. 2) camp queen. 3) I'm not about to pay 45k+ for a camp kitchen with a dog dish sink.
I disagree. It all depends of your tow vehicle ratings. Plenty of 1/2 trucks out there with low payloads for sure. Real world experience for me here. I tow this unit without any issues and stay below the max rating for my 16 navigator L. I have been all over the country visiting the national parks since 2020. The tongue with the tanks on it is only 650 lbs. My Navigator L has a 1,500 payload capacity and 900 lbs at the bumper. I also use a Hensley Hitch, this is huge and I highly recommend it. No sway at all, 100% eliminated. My combine weight is usually 14,300 lbs, well below the truck's 15,000 maximum. I have been visiting the scales on a regular basis to get a good baseline and understand how the number of passenger and cargo will affect all the variables. Tows great, the ecoboost pulls it up the mountains in Colorado at 70 mph without a sweat.
That is an awesome camper perfect for the family We are coming this Saturday to look at 1 but with interest rates and down payments being so high we may have to wait till next year😢
Kayak perspective🎉🎉🎉
👍🏻
With the bunk space, I prefer having the theater seats. If the bunk space is used on a trip, I tend to use the outside of the camper more. If I'm couples camping, we tend to spend more time inside. Giggity!
Giggity 😆
10:01
... and everyone else can keep their drawers 🩲 ! 😂
😂
If your traveling and need a nap snack and crap you could sleep on a bunk.
True
I prefer the Whitehawk 25 MBH instead of this. I don't need my own private bedroom in an rv. And, that walk around space around the bed in the bedroom is now used only for accessing the bed. If it were all open, then that space would be part of the overall floorplan, making it feel larger.
That MBH has such a cool living
Water heater location was the main reason we didn't buy this trailer. We bought the 267bhs baja instead.
I get it!
Fun video Uncle Josh and get some sleep.
Thank you, I will
Josh, I’ve been an avid watcher of your travel trailer reviews for a couple years now and appreciate all your honesty in those travel trailers reviews. My family and I are currently in the market for an upgrade as we have started to out grow our current Jayco X213. After watching countless video reviews and only being able to check out the Grand Designs Imagine 2400BH, we are torn between the Imagine and Jayco Jay Feather 24BH. Any insight you maybe be able to shed as to what you’d pick for a family of 4 would be awesome. I’d definitely appreciate the help, as would my wife!
They both have a few key features the other doesn’t. A few key factors:
Jay feather:
Longer warranty
Dual azdel walls
Plywood roofing
Better solar OPTIONS but no base solar
Cargo door for bunks
No carpet
Imagine has:
True queen bed
Better BASE solar (lesser options)
Better bedside storage
I think better holding tank capacities
Sometimes it boils down to which has the key feature that works best for you
And if those don’t break the bank, then shop the price tags!
This is what we wanted to buy, we settled for a 2017 23BHM. After watching halfagazillion of your videos, I’ve determined we have the strangest floor plan ever made.
Hahaha yeah there’s not a lot like that one
23BHM Murphy bed looks perfect
Nice rig and a second door is mandatory.
👍🏻
😊😊👍👍👍👍👍 nice little Jayco
Thanks 👍
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV
You're welcome 😊
Pantry socket- rechargeable battery charger station. Plug in for satellite or WiFi booster
Ooh good ideas
4:49 I will take a Dinette, please.
Ty
Thanks Josh, I love some parts of this and other parts are a deal breaker. I don't like keeping $8,000 bikes on a bumper rack, so the internal cargo storage is perfect. I don't have kids, can the bunk area be repurposed? I would like to remove that lower bunk area.
The really bad part is using the restroom from the bedroom in the night when the slide is closed. We usually boondock in a parking lot a night or two on long trips.
Yeah, I have seen people pull out bunks and do different things with them. Factory only builds it one way though.
Hey, maybe not the best place to ask this… but! Is there an aftermarket way to add that third level tent bunk like Ember has to a unit like this?
Ask anywhere! Thx for watching
It would be a complete custom aftermarket job
Never had someone ask me about that..
I have a Winnie 2801bhs that’s very similar to this. It’s 2 feet longer with no bedroom door, don’t see how I’d ever use that. I am jealous of the tankless water heater, can anybody tell me if I could swap mine out and if that would be DIY? One note about campers like this, my girlfriend doesn’t like the bunkhouse because friends often seem to come along. She says our 5th wheel, whenever that happens, will NOT have guest space!
Lol good luck changing her mind
Maybe keep a toaster plugged in there.
I can see that
Hey Josh, why do RV builders hate cuddle cumpliant seating? Do they seek to reduce the birth control rate?
Considering the Amish-base of the labor force and their family sizes I definitely dont think that’s the reason
@@JoshtheRVNerd OK...why do they insist on imposing theater seating. There are a couple of buiders who have "flip down" theatre seating and those guys are who I'm most interested in purchasing from. But, as you know I'm deeply opposed to theatre seating...I suspect I'm alone in the desert shrieking my opposition to that but I love cuddling with my SO...and will never consider buying a product where TS is the only option.
Gosh how did you not freek out with that bug hanging out by the fridge 12:38 ?
You get bugs when camping
If only they kept the 6'9" interior height it would have been a "keeper" for me!!
👍🏻👍🏻
It seemed like you could open the bathroom door during travel mode, but you didnt mention it specifically. Can you open it with the slide in in?
You can yes
Never hurts to verify
I actually caught a blanket on fire from the heat exhaust on my friends camper. I bundled up pizzas with a blanket. Idk why she's still my friend 😮
We all have a friend like that
Sometimes I think I AM that friend
I miss the Swiss army sofa! My question is w 60 gall of grey is it two tanks? Can they operate as one? Are there two grey tank pulls?
Two 30gal tanks yeah
Two pulls
@@JoshtheRVNerd that’s noteworthy bc always advertised as 63 gallons. But not so simple.
@@beginagainben6276 There seems to be no good way for me to list that.
If I list them as 60gal, then it doesn't feel right
If I list them as 30+30gal, then people don't understand it
Without getting super wordy on a spec chart there seems to be no way to effectively communicate this
@@JoshtheRVNerd I get it. Need concise and succinct on screen. Well for anyone serious about this model. Will prob look in these cimments and see this here 🙌
I wonder if a full queen can fit. Camp Queen is just too small for me.
Pretty sure it could
Hummmm Hope they don't really rock like that 😳.
I think this is beautiful and I like that storage space. Space for a hamper or a trash barrel.
Jayco doesnt have any small ones like this that are good for sporadic. And I like the fireplace lol etc..
What kind of slide does it have? Rack and pinion?
Yep!
how about a u dinenet with a removable table
It’s available!
Would love to find those swivel cup holder trays. Any ideas where to get them. Haven’t found anything online yet. Thank you.
Jayco has some kind of exclusive or patent or something. A Jayco dealer can order them thru their parts dept
and maybe a couple ottomans
I really like this trailer but GVWR 7500lbs is a little tight for my preference, since my Ranger has a max tow of 7500. It WILL tow 7500 all day long. I've done it. But I didn't like it.
Yeah spot on
I like this unit too bad they don't have the bathroom closer to the master bed ill have to wake up the kids 10 times during the night going to the restroom
Whish Bish's are you at?
I think this was from my Coldwater home store but we have these at multiple locations
Being handicap, could I order this with the larger grab handle for the bedroom door?
They don’t offer any sort of modifications like that, as it turns out
We may be able to do some of those things for you at our store, though
Dog wireless collar transmitter in panty outlet.
Do they make this unit without a slide?
I think all jay feathers have slides currently
They got RID of the bedroom door. Deal breaker!!!!! Please give us other half ton capable alternatives with two doors. I had to cancel my order
_starts video_
Specs come on screen
"30 feet long, and only 1300 pounds of cargo capacity?"
_stops video_
That's a deal breaker right there. It's practically useless.
Fair enough!
The deal breaker for me is the camp kitchen. It is a complete waste of space and what they are doing with the fittings (sink/tap) is ridiculous. I will take the extra storage space and just put up a folding table and set my BBQ and mini fridge on top and presto outdoor kitchen.
Thank you for watching and sharing
Just so people know they are actually eliminating the second door in three different jay feather models including this model
Not only is HR working on disciplinary action for Josh, but the GSMHAA (gas station murder hobo association of America) has reached out through social media expressing their profound dissatisfaction with Josh's unrealistic depiction of their members.
It they reached out with a broken wine bottle lunging to stab me
I am not a fan of a cargo door. It just look weird,
I have seen a reel that says the T-Rex arms can be a ADHD thing
I did some looking on it and it sounds like it’s an instinctive protection thing
Keeping your arms up at ready if you’re uneasy for some reason