I like your spreadsheet, but I have a way to make it more readable. You shouldn't format the values by dollars. Instead, go to your number format dropdown and select "More Number Formats" to bring up the Format Cells window. Under "Category", select "Custom". Under the word "Type:" there is a box - delete anything that might be in there, copy and paste the following text in and press enter:0"g" 00"s" 00"c" You can now select any raw gsc value in your spreadsheet (such as, 105000 for 10g 50s 00c, like the values in column G), then go back into that Format Cells window, select Custom and scroll down to find the one we just added. Clicking OK will apply that format to your selected numbers, so they look more readable. Now you don't have to mess with dividing by 100 and using Dollars! You can obviously still divide the numbers by 100 and modify the custom format if you want to remove copper values so they just say, for example, "10g 50s", that's not too much different. Thanks for another great video.
The differences between the costs of all reagents results in this situation: the cost of blasphimite can be zero, or even some people can make some profit because of transmute. In this case, blasphimite becomes the byproduct and people will make huge amount of it. But things may become a little bit better when S1 begins.
@@Goldzen_tv sadly not if some mats are cheap than somebody just gonna grab it and thaumaturgy it and as the commenter said its gonna be a buyproduct i did myself. First couple days i farmed 2 mill with thaumatrugy resulted around 8000+ Gleaming trasmutagen and the Blasphemite price was down to 2k already. With that i just wanted to say if its 2k(not going to be) than your profit max is 800g per 2 days thats 400g per day you can get way more if you craft anything with Concentration every day.
yup, I have thaumaturged tons of chitin at a profit without even counting the blasphimite. I get that the demand for it will rise, but as the cost of leather mats drop more and more free blasphimites will flood the market
The problem with your spreadsheet for Blasphemite valuation is that you are assuming that there's a cost to crafting them. In reality, Thaumaturgy is profitable even without the Gleaming Transmutagen byproduct. I've gone 126 knowledge points into Thaumaturgy so far and have made 1.5 million gold in strictly Thaumaturgy trades since early access. Ive been selling hundreds of blasphemite since last monday. Thats where all the blasphemite is coming from. In between queues or while eating or while watching a movie, Me and other people like me are pumping out 3 gleaming transmutagen every 2.5 seconds.
I was also doing this Strat, the problem for me is the ah crashing halving the prices, then all my items get swallowed for 2-4 days and the prices tank again. Could've made millions, but blizzard fucked me.
Would it be possible for you to do a quick vid/explanation of how you are getting your auctionator info to paste in like that? Im trying to fiddle around with copying info, but I cant get it to format into a table like you did. Love all the vids! Thanks for all the solid info!
If the ring of binding becomes best, then every key you want to pair with someone new in raid/mythic+, you will need a blasphemite each time. Hoping that makes the value rocket up. And all the sockets
@goldzen - just a note on the patron orders. If you have a choice between 2 KP and 10 aquity, take the 2 KP as when you use it, you get 10 aquity anyway. I'm sure you know this, just thought i'd point it out as like me you're probably getting burnt out :)
Luckily i spent the entire first week only working on Tailoring on my alts. I was planning to start Alchemy tomorrow. But i wonder if i should steer away and choose a different secondary prof on my alts instead? I didn't really think about the fact that even though your Blasphemite strategy works on a "daily" craft system, it technically is not a daily craft, so people can easily tank the market on it while focusing on other aspects of transmutation. I wonder if it will still become quite profitable either way in Phase 3 once we can basically turn q1 mats into q3 mats with transmutation. But even then, the market will just begin adjusting until the value equals out and the profit margin will shrink to nearly 0 over time as people do it more and more. And you don't need an alt army to do that: Just one character.
Correct - At this point i'm building the alchemists up in hopes theres a new transmute in patch 11.1 if theres not then i'll eat that too, just hope the tailoring bolts can carry me through to 100 million.
He covered it in a video a few weeks ago: Tailoring - Multicraft Missive, Ingenuity Enchant. Alchemy - Ingenuity Missive, Ingenuity Enchant. Skinning - Perception Missive, Perception Enchant.
Tailoring - Ingenuity/Ingenuity then transition to Multicraft/Ingenuity once maxxed skill. Alchemy - Ingenuity/Ingenuity Skinning - Perception/Perception, I've given up on skinning its a massive job with 92 tailor/alchemists already
You completely disregarded the transmutegen byproduct of the thaumaturgy/transmuation process. This byproduct is being recycled and is a critical part of the profit/investment equation.
His "cost to craft" is not accounting for the Mercurial, Ominous, and Volatile Transmutagens being made in the process and valued into the current market price for Blasphemite we see today. But he knows this and even mentions "phase two" at 10:44. Investors beware; this isn't the "sale" he's advertising.
Blasphemite will always approach a value of zero and only get closer as people max skill. Transmutes will pop out all transmutagen as well and are nearly free to craft once you max your transmutagen windows. This also doesnt even get in to people buying R3 Weavercloth and other mats and thaumaturging it in to Storm Dust and Bismuth. 20 R3 Weavercloth at 30g (so 600g) will produce 3.3 Storm Dust (385g), 3.3 Bismuth (165g), and 3.3 Mycobloom (66g) (all rank 2) AND the random transmutagens. So they can pop out (385+165+66)=615g using their 600g in mats and even with weak skill, that can be achieved since your R3 Weavercloth is carrying almost all of the skill to get you across the 50% line to get R2 output. All you need is 75 skill to make up after the 300 skill provided by using R3 ingredients, which is super easy with initial treasures and leveling to ~40 skill. Within 25 minutes you can get all of the profession knowledge and skill level required to print blasphemite with basically 0 cost. If someone is eventually able to get to the point where they can guarantee R3 output (im not sure you can with thaumaturgy), the numbers skew even further.
The margins will simply just get smaller and smaller over time as more people shuffle the reagents around I believe this is by design at that point it wont be worth it to shuffle as the prices are so stable, my theory is that the kicker to that will be using concentration to get the rank 3 materials out of the r1 or transmutagen. It's a made theory yes but I'm willing to push my alts to get to that point and showcase it to everyone if its bad or not.
@@Goldzen_tv I have to agree with you, it's hard to imagine with a region wide commodity market that prices won't equalize, this is why I'm not dooming at all, the demand of blasphemite is going to be so massive and people making 10 gold per transmute won't do that all day for the benefit of making 200 gold per blasphemite. If they do it and justify it then using our conc for better transmutes can't ever be a negative. Might just be a tiny alt army win rather than my expected massive win every log in
on my server it is a loss. The overall loss is about the cost of blasphemite, so about 500g. I did enough to make one, then i essentially paid twice the going rate of a blasphemite.
Hey Goldzen, Sorry to say, but in my opinion this video totally missed the point. As others have already said, the reason why Blasphemite is that cheap right now, is because the traumaturgy shuffle is profitable making Blasphemite a byproduct that could actually drop down near zero gold. Of course the season will start the demand on those things, but the core aspect of this being a byproduct still will be true. I do not see a world unfortunatly where Blasphemite recovers (having also invested 1m into it, because i didnt think it through)
Which flasks and primary stat potions will be used by everyone in TWW? Like elemental potion of power and versatility flask in dragonflight was basically a no brainer for most classes that didn’t want to spend the extra gold on corrupted phials
The rank doesn't matter when making efficient Blasphemites the cheapest material from the list is the best, Sometimes the cheaper reagent might be a rank 2
@@Goldzen_tv fair enough but you also get back materials of R2 or better quality when using R2 mats ? so is it wrong to assume the fair cost of the Blasphemite in your original excel + 25% * the average of the other 3 in the Red Gray Green (Gray in this case so Luredrop Orbinid and Aqirite). The gives me ~600g per Agree its undervalued though! bought some for speculation along with other stuff leading into the release or raid and M+. To me it seems like Xmute spec is much more about the shuffle today, and later about blasphemite passive income
It is dead - I was able to repeatably buy 1000 mycobloom, and simply by converting those (mostly for the storm dust) I would USUALLY make a profit - it's a little bit of a gamble, but usually because of the price of storm dust and bismuth it worked out. BUT - here is the kicker - I would come away with 150 gleaming (now remember- I have already broke even or made a profit). Then you have the ominous materials to also run through thaumaturgy for additional mats. Basically, you can make Blasphamite at NO cost.
this is it, will be interesting to see what happens when people stop levelling profs and the thaumaturgy shuffles no longer run profit then we should see the price go up a little for blasphamite. But im still pretty unsure.
@@muzzaoce4284 as the market settles, and the spread between storm dust and microbloom\cloth tightens, it becomes more and more important to have knowledge points in Thaumaturgy. the profit has shifted from the spread between the cheap and expensive item in the same family of transmutagen to the excess transmutagen I get from having 25\25 in the family of transmutagen im working with. Later on, I will be gaining rank 2 material from spamming Thaumaturgy on rank 1 materials.
Yes, I agree that the differences between the costs of all reagents results in this situation: the cost of blasphimite can be zero, or even some people can make some profit because of transmute. In this case, blasphimite becomes the byproduct and people will make huge amount of it. But things may become a little bit better when S1 begins.
It's a bit of a shame really. Long term i believe they will implement no cancelling of auctions. Just post small stacks and then get it back when it expires. Engineering viewpoint it will solve the issue but the player base will have to adapt.
mate i rly like your videos but here you are wrong you ignore the sideproduks you get 17% of the ohter materials of the group so on 1000 gloom chitin you get 170 orbinid/luredrop/aqirite in addition. so you need to put the sideprodukts in your calc
Alt army alchemy doesn't look promising, blasphemite tanked AF i put all that hard work and sweat into my alts for nothing... and it was expensive leveling up that profession too
I like your spreadsheet, but I have a way to make it more readable. You shouldn't format the values by dollars. Instead, go to your number format dropdown and select "More Number Formats" to bring up the Format Cells window. Under "Category", select "Custom". Under the word "Type:" there is a box - delete anything that might be in there, copy and paste the following text in and press enter:0"g" 00"s" 00"c"
You can now select any raw gsc value in your spreadsheet (such as, 105000 for 10g 50s 00c, like the values in column G), then go back into that Format Cells window, select Custom and scroll down to find the one we just added. Clicking OK will apply that format to your selected numbers, so they look more readable. Now you don't have to mess with dividing by 100 and using Dollars! You can obviously still divide the numbers by 100 and modify the custom format if you want to remove copper values so they just say, for example, "10g 50s", that's not too much different.
Thanks for another great video.
Thanks I will save this and implement it in my next project cheers appreciate the helpful tip and effort.
@@Goldzen_tv No worries boss, I'm glad to help you when you're providing great content 👍
seeing people say its dead makes me happy. please everyone give up on blasphemies there is no money to be made. lol
my thoughts exactly
The differences between the costs of all reagents results in this situation: the cost of blasphimite can be zero, or even some people can make some profit because of transmute. In this case, blasphimite becomes the byproduct and people will make huge amount of it. But things may become a little bit better when S1 begins.
still early days
@@Goldzen_tv sadly not if some mats are cheap than somebody just gonna grab it and thaumaturgy it and as the commenter said its gonna be a buyproduct i did myself. First couple days i farmed 2 mill with thaumatrugy resulted around 8000+ Gleaming trasmutagen and the Blasphemite price was down to 2k already. With that i just wanted to say if its 2k(not going to be) than your profit max is 800g per 2 days thats 400g per day you can get way more if you craft anything with Concentration every day.
yup, I have thaumaturged tons of chitin at a profit without even counting the blasphimite. I get that the demand for it will rise, but as the cost of leather mats drop more and more free blasphimites will flood the market
The problem with your spreadsheet for Blasphemite valuation is that you are assuming that there's a cost to crafting them. In reality, Thaumaturgy is profitable even without the Gleaming Transmutagen byproduct. I've gone 126 knowledge points into Thaumaturgy so far and have made 1.5 million gold in strictly Thaumaturgy trades since early access. Ive been selling hundreds of blasphemite since last monday. Thats where all the blasphemite is coming from. In between queues or while eating or while watching a movie, Me and other people like me are pumping out 3 gleaming transmutagen every 2.5 seconds.
It was designed for people like you to shuffle the reagents all day everyday - but i get your point
I was also doing this Strat, the problem for me is the ah crashing halving the prices, then all my items get swallowed for 2-4 days and the prices tank again. Could've made millions, but blizzard fucked me.
@@dinguuuus i agree, ah fucked us all . damn blizzard
How did you fit those 126 KP? You just need the Thaumaturgy ability no?
@Zyrea well you don't need any points to do Thaumaturgy, but the more KP you invest the more material you get from performing it.
Right on bro! Wife comes first! Thanks for all the info
She is the most important aspect of my life.
Keep up the good work dude
Thanks, will do!
I enjoy ur content man!
I appreciate that!
Would it be possible for you to do a quick vid/explanation of how you are getting your auctionator info to paste in like that? Im trying to fiddle around with copying info, but I cant get it to format into a table like you did.
Love all the vids! Thanks for all the solid info!
Nevermind! I rewatched you did click in the cell so I was able to see the formula, ha!
I honestly got the AI to make the split function for me before asking i had no clue.
glad to see you actually use your brain
Long term all the way in ✌
That's it
Dude Blasphemites are so dead (Just adding another one to the pile of doomer comments)
Diamond hands baby!!! - You know it
If the ring of binding becomes best, then every key you want to pair with someone new in raid/mythic+, you will need a blasphemite each time. Hoping that makes the value rocket up. And all the sockets
Once ppl test it yes correct. At first it seems like its just for arenas but you know the mdi guys gonna test it
@goldzen - just a note on the patron orders. If you have a choice between 2 KP and 10 aquity, take the 2 KP as when you use it, you get 10 aquity anyway. I'm sure you know this, just thought i'd point it out as like me you're probably getting burnt out :)
i prioritize the KP ones first then if i got some juice left ill craft the other ones
I noticed this last night. The kp give you acuity as well so always prioritize them first.
Cavedwellers pot drops from dirt farms you can get 100+ in like few minutes
i like cheap
Luckily i spent the entire first week only working on Tailoring on my alts. I was planning to start Alchemy tomorrow. But i wonder if i should steer away and choose a different secondary prof on my alts instead? I didn't really think about the fact that even though your Blasphemite strategy works on a "daily" craft system, it technically is not a daily craft, so people can easily tank the market on it while focusing on other aspects of transmutation.
I wonder if it will still become quite profitable either way in Phase 3 once we can basically turn q1 mats into q3 mats with transmutation. But even then, the market will just begin adjusting until the value equals out and the profit margin will shrink to nearly 0 over time as people do it more and more. And you don't need an alt army to do that: Just one character.
Correct - At this point i'm building the alchemists up in hopes theres a new transmute in patch 11.1 if theres not
then i'll eat that too, just hope the tailoring bolts can carry me through to 100 million.
Could you make a vid on your prof tools and what stats to go for alch and tailor? Keep up the great work man!
He covered it in a video a few weeks ago:
Tailoring - Multicraft Missive, Ingenuity Enchant.
Alchemy - Ingenuity Missive, Ingenuity Enchant.
Skinning - Perception Missive, Perception Enchant.
@@Silent002 must have missed that info. Thanks a lot bud 🙏🏼
@@bakerlol No worries boss 👍
Tailoring - Ingenuity/Ingenuity then transition to Multicraft/Ingenuity once maxxed skill.
Alchemy - Ingenuity/Ingenuity
Skinning - Perception/Perception, I've given up on skinning its a massive job with 92 tailor/alchemists already
Happy Wife - Happy Life
100%
Good luck on management, want to hear how you streamline it. I just benched about 20 of of my guys from the weekly knowledge point grind
Still working it out need to experience more time in game to figure out if it is even possible.
The funny thing is Skinning making more gold with less hassle at the moment, no need of gear, easy to level, and really easy to get superb beast fangs
Well you know what that means - Less profit because more people take the easy route in life.
Comparing passive processing and active gathering is flawed logic.
You completely disregarded the transmutegen byproduct of the thaumaturgy/transmuation process. This byproduct is being recycled and is a critical part of the profit/investment equation.
His "cost to craft" is not accounting for the Mercurial, Ominous, and Volatile Transmutagens being made in the process and valued into the current market price for Blasphemite we see today. But he knows this and even mentions "phase two" at 10:44. Investors beware; this isn't the "sale" he's advertising.
I can only hope now and see what the market does - We can revisit it at a later date
This aged like milk.
Blasphemite will always approach a value of zero and only get closer as people max skill.
Transmutes will pop out all transmutagen as well and are nearly free to craft once you max your transmutagen windows.
This also doesnt even get in to people buying R3 Weavercloth and other mats and thaumaturging it in to Storm Dust and Bismuth.
20 R3 Weavercloth at 30g (so 600g) will produce 3.3 Storm Dust (385g), 3.3 Bismuth (165g), and 3.3 Mycobloom (66g) (all rank 2) AND the random transmutagens. So they can pop out (385+165+66)=615g using their 600g in mats and even with weak skill, that can be achieved since your R3 Weavercloth is carrying almost all of the skill to get you across the 50% line to get R2 output. All you need is 75 skill to make up after the 300 skill provided by using R3 ingredients, which is super easy with initial treasures and leveling to ~40 skill.
Within 25 minutes you can get all of the profession knowledge and skill level required to print blasphemite with basically 0 cost.
If someone is eventually able to get to the point where they can guarantee R3 output (im not sure you can with thaumaturgy), the numbers skew even further.
The margins will simply just get smaller and smaller over time as more people shuffle the reagents around I
believe this is by design at that point it wont be worth it to shuffle as the prices are so stable, my theory is that the kicker to
that will be using concentration to get the rank 3 materials out of the r1 or transmutagen.
It's a made theory yes but I'm willing to push my alts to get to that point and showcase it to everyone if its bad or not.
@@Goldzen_tv I have to agree with you, it's hard to imagine with a region wide commodity market that prices won't equalize, this is why I'm not dooming at all, the demand of blasphemite is going to be so massive and people making 10 gold per transmute won't do that all day for the benefit of making 200 gold per blasphemite.
If they do it and justify it then using our conc for better transmutes can't ever be a negative. Might just be a tiny alt army win rather than my expected massive win every log in
on my server it is a loss. The overall loss is about the cost of blasphemite, so about 500g. I did enough to make one, then i essentially paid twice the going rate of a blasphemite.
i looked up the tailoring profession tree but i dont understand how to reach r3 bolts. anyway nice video, keep it up!
I have two tailoring guides but short answer is like 190 KP's
TH-camrs tanked it (that isn't a dig at you though, just people in general) 😅
It's just the market - Market doe's Market things
Hey Goldzen,
Sorry to say, but in my opinion this video totally missed the point. As others have already said, the reason why Blasphemite is that cheap right now, is because the traumaturgy shuffle is profitable making Blasphemite a byproduct that could actually drop down near zero gold. Of course the season will start the demand on those things, but the core aspect of this being a byproduct still will be true. I do not see a world unfortunatly where Blasphemite recovers (having also invested 1m into it, because i didnt think it through)
I totally didn't even think about the shuffle tbh, only after posting haha - i'll eat it anyways no biggy
For one who's specced into thaumaturgy already. what would be a decent recovery specc?
mentioned on the other comment. but the net result for me was -500g.
Which flasks and primary stat potions will be used by everyone in TWW? Like elemental potion of power and versatility flask in dragonflight was basically a no brainer for most classes that didn’t want to spend the extra gold on corrupted phials
Yeah not too sure mate - I'm all in thaumaturgy
46 alts? That's my man
92 alts now, 46 on each account hope i can fund the madness :D
Do the rank of the mats you use matter ?
The rank doesn't matter when making efficient Blasphemites the cheapest material from the
list is the best, Sometimes the cheaper reagent might be a rank 2
@@Goldzen_tv fair enough but you also get back materials of R2 or better quality when using R2 mats ? so is it wrong to assume the fair cost of the Blasphemite in your original excel + 25% * the average of the other 3 in the Red Gray Green (Gray in this case so Luredrop Orbinid and Aqirite). The gives me ~600g per
Agree its undervalued though! bought some for speculation along with other stuff leading into the release or raid and M+.
To me it seems like Xmute spec is much more about the shuffle today, and later about blasphemite passive income
I think all the get rich quick Alt army content creators missed the mark. Or, advertised one thing and did something else on their own accounts lol
@@Joefaking exactly, just to create fake content
Glad i'm a get rich slow alt army content creator
also please share that spreadsheet your a master
Once the dust settles i'll make tutorials on how to make google sheets its really not too hard.
It is dead - I was able to repeatably buy 1000 mycobloom, and simply by converting those (mostly for the storm dust) I would USUALLY make a profit - it's a little bit of a gamble, but usually because of the price of storm dust and bismuth it worked out. BUT - here is the kicker - I would come away with 150 gleaming (now remember- I have already broke even or made a profit). Then you have the ominous materials to also run through thaumaturgy for additional mats. Basically, you can make Blasphamite at NO cost.
this is it, will be interesting to see what happens when people stop levelling profs and the thaumaturgy shuffles no longer run profit then we should see the price go up a little for blasphamite. But im still pretty unsure.
@@muzzaoce4284 as the market settles, and the spread between storm dust and microbloom\cloth tightens, it becomes more and more important to have knowledge points in Thaumaturgy. the profit has shifted from the spread between the cheap and expensive item in the same family of transmutagen to the excess transmutagen I get from having 25\25 in the family of transmutagen im working with. Later on, I will be gaining rank 2 material from spamming Thaumaturgy on rank 1 materials.
Yes, I agree that the differences between the costs of all reagents results in this situation: the cost of blasphimite can be zero, or even some people can make some profit because of transmute. In this case, blasphimite becomes the byproduct and people will make huge amount of it. But things may become a little bit better when S1 begins.
Either way i'll eat it
Yes it is, i went full into thaumarturgy only to craft blasphemite and need to sell it under 1000g?!
Season 1 not even started yet. Mythic raiding/RWF is what drives prices for Alchemy/Jewelcraft/Enchanting.
Guess only time will tell then.
WTS Blasphemite 99 Silver
i got enough now :D
@@Goldzen_tv WTB Blasphemite 89 Silver
Ah is up in EU but its still broken as f.
It's a bit of a shame really. Long term i believe they will implement no cancelling of auctions. Just post small stacks and then
get it back when it expires. Engineering viewpoint it will solve the issue but the player base will have to adapt.
how do you search r1 only ?
you have to check the button that says exact search and then check tier 1
mate i rly like your videos but here you are wrong you ignore the sideproduks you get 17% of the ohter materials of the group so on 1000 gloom chitin you get 170 orbinid/luredrop/aqirite in addition. so you need to put the sideprodukts in your calc
i did not even think of that, thanks
@@Goldzen_tv and at some point u just use your transmutegen for your first craft so your dayly cd is basicly free
Alt army alchemy doesn't look promising, blasphemite tanked AF i put all that hard work and sweat into my alts for nothing... and it was expensive leveling up that profession too
ouch you blindly followed then - guess its time to give up
lmfao this comment is perfect 😂
alot of stuff is dead already
Day 10 = gg
😂😂😂