Been using the Shinko 505 on my Beta for the last two years. Love it. Used a buddy's bike for a three hour ride this weekend. He runs the medium Starcross 5. So much tire spin. As long as I keep riding steep rocky single track, I'll never go back to a standard compound tire.
@@mxgryan No doubt that's true. In his particular case, I don't think he's ever riden a track, at least not in the last 4 years that I've been riding with him. He's happy with his tires, so to each his own. The point you make is a good one though - higher performance in one area usually comes at the cost of lower performance in another.
I started watching you in the hospital after a surgery from a femur/ knee injury in a moto crash, I ride moto. But i work at a dirtbike store up in wa, and it's super super super nice to be able to help the trail/ woods guys with tires and parts (I work service but were by the tire racks) so thanks man,
Here in so cal I love the IRC motocross m5b, shreds the sand, trenches on hard pack and works great on rocks, plus it was the only tire not to throw knobs the first ride on my 88 cr500, so I still run on my 300xcw
We don’t get them in the Uk 🇬🇧 yet. In Europe we use the Mitas tyres a lot, Mitas EF07 comes in many different compounds from super soft to hard great tyre they still grip very very well even after 75% wear
I have run many tires as well here in Pennsylvania. The Mitas EF07 double green hands down has the best grip of any tire i have ever mounted. I keep one in stock for special occasions. Makes me feel like Jarvis when i run it
Tried the IRC and Dunlop. Not bad, but I've found that the GoldenTyre GT333 is the way to go. Velcro and longer lasting. Just a superior product all together.
@@tomnekuda3818 Various in the Northwest. From the rocky/desert of Central Oregon (Bend) to the dry GP courses in Washington to a bit of moto all around the NW made up of sand and natural terrain. Overall great tire.
@@GaryPiazza Sounds a lot like the riding I did in Wyoming/Nevada/Utah.....good stuff. I always wondered how that tire would do. I'd like to ride Oregon but my old body needs a knee and shoulder right now. Keep the Faith. Tom
@@tomnekuda3818 Right on. If you ever want to come and ride in the Northwest, let me know! Can show you some epic riding spots. Oh, and here is a documentary I put together of a 24 hour race we do in Goldendale, WA. It's called "Pinning The Ridge." Grab your popcorn and enjoy! th-cam.com/video/GpZJRBugV70/w-d-xo.html
Kyle, this is what I would like to see more of on your channel. The average rider doesn't have the time or money to try them all. Next, add the Golden tire to the mix.
Both sound like amazing tires if i had to try any it would be the IRC currently $88 on rocky mountain. However for the price right now you can't beat the Shinko 505. $69
Hey, an Oregonian here. I'm wondering how the xtreme hybrid works in the summer months? I almost purchased it and instead went with the tracionator enduro I/T, which was awesome while things still had a tad bit of moisture to them but honestly doesn't perform as well in the really hard, rocky dry stuff as my shinko 505 hybrid cheater did.
@@loboflv They both have their purposes, if you spend a higher percentage of time on the road then the Trackmaster is a better option, if you spend more than 50% of the time in dirt, then I'd go Recon. The Recon only suffers in wet/slick/muddy conditions.
I tried out the Tusk Recon on my 300xc this past week. I live in East TN so its pretty rocky. I was super impressed with it. Hopefully you'll give one a try and let us know what you think!
The Tusk Recon tire is a great tire for the price, and I have seen it in action for about 18 hours and ridden on it for about 1 hour. It's not as good of a performer as the tires I'm showing here in this video. If you are simply talking about the money, it's going to be hard to beat it on a budget. The Shinko 505 is only a couple of bucks more though. That is the main competition to the Recon tire as I see it.
"long lasting gummy" lol. Like that concept :) I love the AT81EX did use Kenda IBEX in the past and the Shinko 505, but the AT81EX is great! (Better than the standard AT81 my bike came with)
So far the MotoZ Hybrid Arena is doing better than my last AT81 rear. Also $100 for a tire is cheap. How/why you ask? Well my road race tires were $420 a set and $500 for Race rain tires. The slicks lasted a few track days and the rain tires lasted a season. Dirt biking is way more affordable.
Awesome vid, thank you! Seeing lot's of vids on rear tires which is great. Any chance on seeing some recommendation vids on front tires to run with these gummies. Thanks again!
Heading to West Virginia in a few months, mostly rock, when wet it's slippery as snot. I'm thinking of getting the Tubliss along with gummy tires. Do you use the Tubliss and a gummy on the front as well? If so what is your gummy combo and what psi do you run?
If you get a wild hair Kyle try the Shinko 216SX. I'd really like to hear your thoughts when it's compared to the 525 Cheater and AT81EX. I'm putting on that AT here shortly and coming off of a 216SX.
irc 33s is my favorite some times the amazing traction can throw you off at first ..once you learn how to ride it it is a no brainer for your next purchase ..in real dry rocky trail i do rip some knobs off but thats well after 30 hours of pounding it
I’ve been using Motoz trials tires. I can get about 1.5k of hard desert out of them, they’re D.O.T and work great on everything but mud. I have no clue what I’m able to get out of the fronts.
I was raised by my dad to believe that IRCs were crap tires made for cheap people. Dad ran them on everything! Cool to see some brands with questionable reputations making killer tires today.
Is there still a dirt bike channel rmatv referral link? Thanks for your input on the best tires to try. I don't go through that many and appreciate your narrowing it down to a few based on real world experience.
I feel bad for you guys out west ....out east it's much different....I run a washougal on my woods bike and a millville 2 on my track bike....they last and are fairly priced.....
Tried it back to back (new) w/ the 525 Cheater - I keep going back to the 525. The M5B was just too slick when the temps get colder and the terrain gets snotty. Great tire for mud, sand and loose hillclimbs in the summer though!
Kurt Linford depends on the terrain and rider level. Where I ride, anything else than a gummy tire and you will not be able to go up most of the hills. Tires like Kenda Ibex and Mitas greens are king here. :)
jrodicus It all depends on how much air pressure you run in the M5B. The M5B with the tubliss and very low pressure is king. Too much pressure in the M5B and it is not good in slick terrain. I played around with all sorts of tires and configurations. I have not found any tire that compares if set up correctly.
Kurt Linford I have the M5B on my bike now, running 3-5psi-ish. It’s a good tire, especially in the summer, but in the cold PNW, it can’t compare to a gummy. The compound is too hard.
It's funny you say that. I'm honestly pulled in two directions when it comes to the ibex or the 525. Both are great tires in the winter. I think which ever one is cheapest is the way to go. Either or will last and build confidence with their ability to grip.
if this dude didn’t have an elitist attitude I’d enjoy his content. Yes you do, not just this vid. Yes it’s hard for an individual to see their self in this light.
We are living in the golden age of dirt bike tech.
Been using the Shinko 505 on my Beta for the last two years. Love it. Used a buddy's bike for a three hour ride this weekend. He runs the medium Starcross 5. So much tire spin. As long as I keep riding steep rocky single track, I'll never go back to a standard compound tire.
well you cant really compare a gummy tire to a medium compound mx tire lol. His tire would crush yours on the track.
@@mxgryan No doubt that's true. In his particular case, I don't think he's ever riden a track, at least not in the last 4 years that I've been riding with him. He's happy with his tires, so to each his own. The point you make is a good one though - higher performance in one area usually comes at the cost of lower performance in another.
@@calabskier1393 That's extremely well said, and I would agree. haha
@The TacomaKid lol no what? Very witty and well thought out response
Just mounted up the tusk hybrid. Cant wait to give it a go for 65 bucks ,delivered . Ve33s sold out everywhere I tried.
markmtbrider you won’t be sorry, I’ve got a few hours on my recon and I’m super happy with it.
I'm running a Shinko 525 on the rear and a 546 on the front. I couldn't be happier with the combo for the trails I'm riding here in Arkansas.
I put a VE33S on with Nitromousse soft mousse. I really like it. Have used the Shinko 525 Cheater and GT333 prior. The IRC is a great hybrid.
I started watching you in the hospital after a surgery from a femur/ knee injury in a moto crash, I ride moto. But i work at a dirtbike store up in wa, and it's super super super nice to be able to help the trail/ woods guys with tires and parts (I work service but were by the tire racks) so thanks man,
Here in so cal I love the IRC motocross m5b, shreds the sand, trenches on hard pack and works great on rocks, plus it was the only tire not to throw knobs the first ride on my 88 cr500, so I still run on my 300xcw
Best tire for our desert?
Just picked up an AT81EX for my 300 XC-W. can’t wait to try it out.
We don’t get them in the Uk 🇬🇧 yet. In Europe we use the Mitas tyres a lot, Mitas EF07 comes in many different compounds from super soft to hard great tyre they still grip very very well even after 75% wear
I have run many tires as well here in Pennsylvania. The Mitas EF07 double green hands down has the best grip of any tire i have ever mounted. I keep one in stock for special occasions. Makes me feel like Jarvis when i run it
Yep, all about compound. Gummy is easy for the great unwashed to understand.
Tried the IRC and Dunlop. Not bad, but I've found that the GoldenTyre GT333 is the way to go. Velcro and longer lasting. Just a superior product all together.
What type of terrain do you ride? Thanks.
@@tomnekuda3818 Various in the Northwest. From the rocky/desert of Central Oregon (Bend) to the dry GP courses in Washington to a bit of moto all around the NW made up of sand and natural terrain. Overall great tire.
@@GaryPiazza Sounds a lot like the riding I did in Wyoming/Nevada/Utah.....good stuff. I always wondered how that tire would do. I'd like to ride Oregon but my old body needs a knee and shoulder right now. Keep the Faith. Tom
@@tomnekuda3818 Right on. If you ever want to come and ride in the Northwest, let me know! Can show you some epic riding spots. Oh, and here is a documentary I put together of a 24 hour race we do in Goldendale, WA. It's called "Pinning The Ridge." Grab your popcorn and enjoy!
th-cam.com/video/GpZJRBugV70/w-d-xo.html
@@GaryPiazza Thanks.....I'm watching as I send this. Looks good.
Kyle, this is what I would like to see more of on your channel. The average rider doesn't have the time or money to try them all. Next, add the Golden tire to the mix.
Kyle , MITAS EF-07 DOUBLE GREEN STRIPE ! you will be stunned !!!!
Best offroad /hard enduro tire made hands down.
I just put my shinko 505 on my Beta 390 yesterday. What a tire!!
Big thanks for the tire reviews, tech is changing, in a good way. I love the Ibex and ve33s,, and will look for at81ex on sale this winter!
Both sound like amazing tires if i had to try any it would be the IRC currently $88 on rocky mountain. However for the price right now you can't beat the Shinko 505. $69
The Dumlop tire you speak of that amazes you is the AT 81 EX ?
Always great tips thanks.
Great videos Kyle. I love the product reviews
I’m running the Motoz extreme hybrid gummy and honestly I will never try a different tire now. You should add it to your list of tires to test.
Hey, an Oregonian here. I'm wondering how the xtreme hybrid works in the summer months? I almost purchased it and instead went with the tracionator enduro I/T, which was awesome while things still had a tad bit of moisture to them but honestly doesn't perform as well in the really hard, rocky dry stuff as my shinko 505 hybrid cheater did.
Thanks Ill try it, my current fav is the Maxxis Trial Max. Its knobs are super gummy also.
Tusk Recon Hybrid is the best bang for the buck, awesome performance and you can have 2 for every one of these.
Nope
Hi, i thinking on order the Tusk Recon Hybrid, you think is better than kenda trackmaster?
@@loboflv They both have their purposes, if you spend a higher percentage of time on the road then the Trackmaster is a better option, if you spend more than 50% of the time in dirt, then I'd go Recon. The Recon only suffers in wet/slick/muddy conditions.
Awesome channel with personality and good info, you should have more subscribers man! Maybe the world just needs more off-road riders!🙂
I tried out the Tusk Recon on my 300xc this past week. I live in East TN so its pretty rocky. I was super impressed with it. Hopefully you'll give one a try and let us know what you think!
Good info thanks bud. I'v have great luck with the tusk products iv tried so far.
The Tusk Recon tire is a great tire for the price, and I have seen it in action for about 18 hours and ridden on it for about 1 hour. It's not as good of a performer as the tires I'm showing here in this video. If you are simply talking about the money, it's going to be hard to beat it on a budget. The Shinko 505 is only a couple of bucks more though. That is the main competition to the Recon tire as I see it.
@@DirtBikeChannel Thanks Kyle. Keep up the good work
The Tusk is my first experience with a "cheater" I'll definitely keep the Shinko in mind for my next purchase tho!
@@DirtBikeChannel it tears up too fast. I tried shinko soft and it was trashed after one harescramble. Ibex lasts much longer.
Have you ran a GoldenTyre GT333?
"long lasting gummy" lol. Like that concept :) I love the AT81EX did use Kenda IBEX in the past and the Shinko 505, but the AT81EX is great! (Better than the standard AT81 my bike came with)
So far the MotoZ Hybrid Arena is doing better than my last AT81 rear.
Also $100 for a tire is cheap. How/why you ask? Well my road race tires were $420 a set and $500 for Race rain tires. The slicks lasted a few track days and the rain tires lasted a season.
Dirt biking is way more affordable.
If you haven't tried the MotoZ hybrid gummy, it's one of the best. They have excellent traction in most conditions, and last a long time.
Jamison Timberfalling Amen!
Have you tried the MITAS ef -07 Super Soft? 2 green stripes
Have you tried the IRC M5B
Awesome vid, thank you! Seeing lot's of vids on rear tires which is great. Any chance on seeing some recommendation vids on front tires to run with these gummies. Thanks again!
It looks like the IRC tire is mounted backwards on the bike on the right. Looks like a directional tread pattern.
Heading to West Virginia in a few months, mostly rock, when wet it's slippery as snot. I'm thinking of getting the Tubliss along with gummy tires. Do you use the Tubliss and a gummy on the front as well? If so what is your gummy combo and what psi do you run?
If you get a wild hair Kyle try the Shinko 216SX. I'd really like to hear your thoughts when it's compared to the 525 Cheater and AT81EX. I'm putting on that AT here shortly and coming off of a 216SX.
Hi Kyle.... cold weather is moving in soon for us Canadians...ehh! How about some cold weather riding gear tips or reviews?
irc on backwards....?
Heading to West Virgina next month....may give on one of these a go!!!
Almost Heaven! BEST VIRGINIAAAAAAA
I've still gotta couple Goldentyre gt216x gummies, to go through first.
What tire would you recommend for harescrables, mud/rock and riding around the house?
irc 33s is my favorite some times the amazing traction can throw you off at first ..once you learn how to ride it it is a no brainer for your next purchase ..in real dry rocky trail i do rip some knobs off but thats well after 30 hours of pounding it
You need to try out the motoz arena hybrid gummy, my favourite tyre at them moment
I’m thinking about that being my next rear tire
I’ve been using Motoz trials tires. I can get about 1.5k of hard desert out of them, they’re D.O.T and work great on everything but mud. I have no clue what I’m able to get out of the fronts.
How about the irc jx8? Any opinion on that?
Do they only make the s in a 18 inch? I can find the regular ve33 in 110/90/19 but not the gummy?
Dude the gimmie tire I run on my yz325 is the m5b and she’s probably got the biggest tread pattern in a tire I’ve seen my 16 years of existence 😂
I was raised by my dad to believe that IRCs were crap tires made for cheap people. Dad ran them on everything! Cool to see some brands with questionable reputations making killer tires today.
The Shenko 505 has a tall carcass ! how does the Dunlop look
what the difference in the ve33 and the ve33s?
At81ex is good, but nothing compared to GT216x with a bib
on the irc website I can only find the irc ve33 vulcanduro, there is no "s"-version. can anyone say why?
Please review the IRC IX09. Much softer than IRC VE 33S
How much do the two tires weigh?
Try the michelin enduro medium and make a reviev
Hey Kyle, ever tried a Mitas EF07 green?
Also, How’s the Dunlop compared to the Ibex?
Is there still a dirt bike channel rmatv referral link? Thanks for your input on the best tires to try. I don't go through that many and appreciate your narrowing it down to a few based on real world experience.
How do each of these compare to the 505 Cheater?
Do they make front tires as well
Gummys are Super expensive here. Always used Dunlop hard terrain.
Is clunking normal when you slam on the back brake. Answers would be greatly appreciated!
Conner Wiltshire that’s just chatter all bikes (at least all the bikes at the tracks I ride at do that)
good review if you get a chance please try the motoz tires
I dunno man, i looked at the AT81 EX and it was just not comparable to the motoz Arena hybrid.
I feel bad for you guys out west ....out east it's much different....I run a washougal on my woods bike and a millville 2 on my track bike....they last and are fairly priced.....
What did you do to your pinky
What pressures do you run? Tubliss? How stiff are the side walls?
Depends on the tire and terrain, but generally 3-6 in the rear and 5-8 in the front.
@@DirtBikeChannel So the sidewalls must be pretty stiff to run those low pressures. Awesome!
Can't have a Dunlop if I only get 8 rides on it. Soft as ice cream.
5:52 to 6:03 was the most adrenaline I've ever had on TH-cam!
Try the Michelin Starcross 5 medium
Great videos....
Dang 20 hrs huh. I'm blowing thru dunlops just as fast if not faster. Gonna have to try one out.
GoldenTyre AA front fatty is da bomb!
IRC always looks, lasts and performs better than a Onelap
Grieta video
I’m sure they are great tires but 113$. That is FREAKING ridiculous
lol a good MX tire has been 140-150 MSRP for years.
@@mxgryan haha you've been getting ripped off my friend
@@mxgryan ive never spent more that $80 on my dunlop geomax's. what tires are you referring to?
@@cucumberlumber1463 MSRP on a Dunlop Geomax is $133.35.
@@AustinJBurr I've been getting ripped off for years because I tood you what MSRP was on a tire? Make some sense when you speak.
I beg you, please try the IRC M5B. You won’t waste your time with gummy’s anymore. Maybe just Gummy Bears 😉
Tried it back to back (new) w/ the 525 Cheater - I keep going back to the 525. The M5B was just too slick when the temps get colder and the terrain gets snotty. Great tire for mud, sand and loose hillclimbs in the summer though!
Kurt Linford depends on the terrain and rider level. Where I ride, anything else than a gummy tire and you will not be able to go up most of the hills.
Tires like Kenda Ibex and Mitas greens are king here. :)
jrodicus It all depends on how much air pressure you run in the M5B. The M5B with the tubliss and very low pressure is king. Too much pressure in the M5B and it is not good in slick terrain. I played around with all sorts of tires and configurations. I have not found any tire that compares if set up correctly.
Kurt Linford I have the M5B on my bike now, running 3-5psi-ish. It’s a good tire, especially in the summer, but in the cold PNW, it can’t compare to a gummy. The compound is too hard.
The M5B, when needed, is the bomb, if I sense muddy conditions, M5B time with a soft mouse!!
Scratch and dent tire ... LoL.. Ibex or 525 for me
It's funny you say that. I'm honestly pulled in two directions when it comes to the ibex or the 525. Both are great tires in the winter. I think which ever one is cheapest is the way to go. Either or will last and build confidence with their ability to grip.
@@stanleykania7184 I don't race. I'm just a PNW weekend warrior. I've found the ibex and the 525 to be very admirable tires.
Ibex is a one race tire.
Lol you can send me a tire. I'll put as many hours as you want in the Arizona desert 😉
Too bad, no 17" for my old faithful 1984 XR350R
so.....run the gummies when you want to impress the wife, kids or friends, got it.
Tells us make sure its the "S" Gekkota while showing us the non "S" Volcanduro ... 1.47 hehe
For reasons unknown the "S" tires have both Gekkota and Volcanduro on the sidewall. I know because I have one ;-)
Speed will kill a gummy.
The dunlop is rubbish had 4 now and 3 have delaminated and the 4th had a full lug just disappear around the same laminated line
I wish they were DOT approved.....
if this dude didn’t have an elitist attitude I’d enjoy his content. Yes you do, not just this vid. Yes it’s hard for an individual to see their self in this light.
That Dunlop looks trashed...I have an AT81 front & its garbage
Would you like to give me a dirt bike?
Absolutely not, he would like to give me a dirt bike...lol!
1st
irc on backwards....?
irc on backwards....?