Would be great tourist trip from Rockingham station too. Poor souls have looked at the bare tram track for nearly 20 years! No sign of that which was promised
It is probably because it is in a safe Labor seat and they don't need to spend money on it because even if they lose the election Rockingham will always be Labor.
@nihongo02341 That's got nothing to do with it. Metronet expansion has occurred through seats held by either side of politics. This here is about public transport and tourism, which is of importance to the state as a whole.
Yes it is an Old Melbourne W Class tram. PETS has many of them mainly to allow the operation of the tramway to continue and gain money to restore old perth trams.
@@Trainanatic This one is an SW6 class. Saying "W class tram" is a *VERY* broad, and rather wrong, description of a series of trams that numbered several hundred, ultimately.
Just had a flashback to my childhood. I grew up down south in the Sutherland Shire, Sydney, near the Loftus Tram Museum and the Royal National Park (the first national park in Australia). I remember riding this type of tram in the late 1960s there. Exactly the same! I think the museum is still open to the public with tram rides etc on offer. I well remember the old 'red-rattlers' as the trains were known as. I moved to Perth in the mid 1980s. So strange to see the tram with the green livery I knew so well from Sydney. I was also able to travel on the old double-decker green buses in Sydney as a child. It was always an adventure, climbing the stairs in the hope that the front seats weren't taken. My poor grandmother would always dread those stairs, but just the thrill on our faces made it worthwhile!
That's one Gi-normous park! In the words of a one-time NBN-TV News sports commentator, Daryl Eastlake(now deceased), the place is *HUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!*
If you told someone in 1958 that there be a train-tram connection in 2024, they would never believe you Maybe Fremantle should look at using their tram service in a similar way, maybe from Fremantle station to the markets just a suggestion
We may see a tram network appear in the future as councils SOR are looking at Mid-Teir transport and some are prefering introducing a light rail network over buses. so who knows what the future will hold for perth's transport network, fingers crossed this won't be the last tram project the government does.
The W class trams still fitted with a pole, How’s it train to tram the voltages are completely different? Train-1500 volts DC. Tram- 600 volts DC. For a train / tram to cross over one another they have to at low speed and not accelerate to avoid damaging the tram or its occupants.
i think you are reading too much into the title. The trams dont run on the same track as the trams are standard and the perth suburban rail is narrow. it is just a tram stop that connects to a new train station.
@@Trainanatic Haha imagine having the trams on West Swan Rd and doing a loop to Midland down Gt Northern Highway. Not only is it a good idea, it would "calm" traffic down.
I wasn't impressed with the new tram set up at all. No timetable. When i asked the crew about times and days i was appalled at their lack of interest or knowledge. So, what's going to happen if I decide to take the train to Whiteman Park and sit at the new tramstop? What will the wait time be? Will a tram actually operate on the day I'm there? Who knows? Not me!! I hope they get the buses to cover the days the trams won't run. At least the buses will have a timetable - as they have them posted at their current stops. Its worth bearing in mind that this whole railway and new tram extension is for the benefit of the public visiting the park. It appears the tram connection and all to do with the tram is for the benefit of tram enthusiasts - playing trams! I'll continue to drive to Whiteman thanks.
The timetable is literally posted on the PETS website. It runs every 30 minutes Tuesday, Friday and weekends and all days on school holidays except when there are heat restriction closures. It was just on the opening day that it was a little messy because of how busy it was.
@@TransportofPerth .. that doesn't help after a person has gotten to Whiteman Park by train does it? Many elderly people for instance don't have or use devices to see that information. The least PETS could have done was post a notice at the new tram stop to advise if or when a tram would be operating! Imagine turning up to catch your bus or train from wherever you live and the service (having been advertised as you've just stated) doesn't turn up. Imagine then calling say, transperth or swan transit or whomever and they don't answer your phone - not even a recorded message ?? Would you be impressed? And what if you'd travelled 90 minutes in 40 degree heat and that happened? What annoys me is that PETS was assisted by more than a million dollars to enable this extension and do you think that the next 12 months of "free" tram travel is being done for real "free"? Of course not - money is being provided to enable this as far as I've been told. But PETS isn't providing the service. If swan transit, path or any other provider of transit associated with Metronet/Transperth fails to provide a service there'd be problems! Myself and a 74 year old man inconvenienced yesterday in that shocking heat are contacting the department of transport, the minister for transport and metronet (all involved in the granting of funds to pets and the construction of). I've been waiting for this new "tram/train" connection for a good while so I can use public transport instead of driving there. Do I sound annoyed and upset? Guaranteed - myself and a good few others. Still not a word or explanation from the tram operator. The sooner the vintage bus group can get involved the better.
I think everyone at the Perth Electric Tramway Society was very excited to see how much the public enjoyed riding the tram extension.
I certainly enjoyed riding it again. Just bit too crowded for my liking.
@ yes it was a bit busy
It's good to see another Melbourne tram!
Perth
@@peteypook yes I know, but our trams to get around...
Wow the new extension looks very nice, thanks for filming it
Would be great tourist trip from Rockingham station too. Poor souls have looked at the bare tram track for nearly 20 years! No sign of that which was promised
It is probably because it is in a safe Labor seat and they don't need to spend money on it because even if they lose the election Rockingham will always be Labor.
@nihongo02341 That's got nothing to do with it. Metronet expansion has occurred through seats held by either side of politics. This here is about public transport and tourism, which is of importance to the state as a whole.
@@theaussiewhinger And people don't speed or hoon either. 😅
What a great idea absolutely fantastic idea 😮😊
you can probably thank the Victorian State government for the old green tram - that’s one of melbourne’s old trams if ever I saw one!
Yes it is an Old Melbourne W Class tram. PETS has many of them mainly to allow the operation of the tramway to continue and gain money to restore old perth trams.
@ ah, so, we Victorians are good for something other than ripping off are we??
@@Trainanatic This one is an SW6 class. Saying "W class tram" is a *VERY* broad, and rather wrong, description of a series of trams that numbered several hundred, ultimately.
i am not from melbourne nor have visited yet and therefore dont know much about the trams there. but thanks for that bit of info.
Great video, thank you.
Just had a flashback to my childhood. I grew up down south in the Sutherland Shire, Sydney, near the Loftus Tram Museum and the Royal National Park (the first national park in Australia).
I remember riding this type of tram in the late 1960s there. Exactly the same! I think the museum is still open to the public with tram rides etc on offer. I well remember the old 'red-rattlers' as the trains were known as.
I moved to Perth in the mid 1980s. So strange to see the tram with the green livery I knew so well from Sydney. I was also able to travel on the old double-decker green buses in Sydney as a child. It was always an adventure, climbing the stairs in the hope that the front seats weren't taken. My poor grandmother would always dread those stairs, but just the thrill on our faces made it worthwhile!
Everyone has to follow Victoria, our Trams, our Footy, our world's best beer Victoria Bitter!
That's one Gi-normous park! In the words of a one-time NBN-TV News sports commentator, Daryl Eastlake(now deceased), the place is *HUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!*
Nice one haha
This video does not mention that the tram is an ex-Melbourne one, built in the 1940s (I think).
i did put it in the description of the video, but i felt i didn't need to mention it in the actual video.
If you told someone in 1958 that there be a train-tram connection in 2024, they would never believe you
Maybe Fremantle should look at using their tram service in a similar way, maybe from Fremantle station to the markets just a suggestion
We may see a tram network appear in the future as councils SOR are looking at Mid-Teir transport and some are prefering introducing a light rail network over buses. so who knows what the future will hold for perth's transport network, fingers crossed this won't be the last tram project the government does.
7:13 What editing software are you using? You could pixelate or blur the face of the fellow with the cap.
Software was having a fit whenever I did it so I decided it would be easier to do what I did haha
@@Trainanatic Perhaps you didn't have enough "oomph" on your computer! LOL(memory chip not quite sufficient perhaps).
or i could be i was just lazy 😝
@@Trainanatic LOL😁
The W class trams still fitted with a pole, How’s it train to tram the voltages are completely different?
Train-1500 volts DC.
Tram- 600 volts DC.
For a train / tram to cross over one another they have to at low speed and not accelerate to avoid damaging the tram or its occupants.
i think you are reading too much into the title. The trams dont run on the same track as the trams are standard and the perth suburban rail is narrow. it is just a tram stop that connects to a new train station.
In Victoria our trains run on broad gauge and our trams are standard gauge.
Crossing over train power requires the power to be turned off, crossing over tram same thing. Google Glenhuntly tram square to how complex it is.
The tram appears to be an sw7
Built in the 1950s.
@@MalcolmMarks-c6k
Google maps doesn't look like it has been updated. Do you have a diagram / map of this new extension?
are the tram tracks wider than the train tracks there?
Now why couldn't our do called smart politicians here in Brisbane city Australia do exactly the same thing 😮😢
Is the new stop at whiteman park station accessible?
Mate, its Perth's ONLY train-tram connection, not its "newest" 😅😅
Yes that is true. But it also wouldn't be right calling it "Perth's Only Train-Tram Connection" as Perth had many before the old tram system closed.
@@Trainanatic Haha imagine having the trams on West Swan Rd and doing a loop to Midland down Gt Northern Highway. Not only is it a good idea, it would "calm" traffic down.
Perth used to have trams until 1958…
So it would be the “newest”… (but still only).
@@Trainanatictrue 👍
Melbourne tram
I wasn't impressed with the new tram set up at all. No timetable. When i asked the crew about times and days i was appalled at their lack of interest or knowledge. So, what's going to happen if I decide to take the train to Whiteman Park and sit at the new tramstop? What will the wait time be? Will a tram actually operate on the day I'm there? Who knows? Not me!! I hope they get the buses to cover the days the trams won't run. At least the buses will have a timetable - as they have them posted at their current stops. Its worth bearing in mind that this whole railway and new tram extension is for the benefit of the public visiting the park. It appears the tram connection and all to do with the tram is for the benefit of tram enthusiasts - playing trams! I'll continue to drive to Whiteman thanks.
The timetable is literally posted on the PETS website. It runs every 30 minutes Tuesday, Friday and weekends and all days on school holidays except when there are heat restriction closures. It was just on the opening day that it was a little messy because of how busy it was.
@@TransportofPerth .. that doesn't help after a person has gotten to Whiteman Park by train does it? Many elderly people for instance don't have or use devices to see that information. The least PETS could have done was post a notice at the new tram stop to advise if or when a tram would be operating! Imagine turning up to catch your bus or train from wherever you live and the service (having been advertised as you've just stated) doesn't turn up. Imagine then calling say, transperth or swan transit or whomever and they don't answer your phone - not even a recorded message ?? Would you be impressed? And what if you'd travelled 90 minutes in 40 degree heat and that happened? What annoys me is that PETS was assisted by more than a million dollars to enable this extension and do you think that the next 12 months of "free" tram travel is being done for real "free"? Of course not - money is being provided to enable this as far as I've been told. But PETS isn't providing the service. If swan transit, path or any other provider of transit associated with Metronet/Transperth fails to provide a service there'd be problems! Myself and a 74 year old man inconvenienced yesterday in that shocking heat are contacting the department of transport, the minister for transport and metronet (all involved in the granting of funds to pets and the construction of). I've been waiting for this new "tram/train" connection for a good while so I can use public transport instead of driving there. Do I sound annoyed and upset? Guaranteed - myself and a good few others. Still not a word or explanation from the tram operator. The sooner the vintage bus group can get involved the better.
you could volunteer
@@johnwhite5209 I do and I have been all year
@Leo-hv9mm you can flick them an email about wanting a physical timeline at the tram stops