Full specs for the cam are: Intake Duration at .050 - 249 Exhaust Duration at .050 - 265 CLA - 111.5 S2S Overlap - 62.5 degrees Gross lift intake/exhaust - .6966 Peak Power 584hp at 6500 518lb/ft at 5000
Tick 246/266 111.5+3 .680 .650 About 34 degrees overlap. 402ci, 0411 PCM. TFS ls3 heads, mod runner fast ported. Professionally tuned. Runs fine on the streets through an auto.
@@GoatRopeGarage with the 4l60e its a fti 3800 9.5'' lockup shelf converter. ''street racer series''. Although I ordered and am waiting on a fti lvl 4.5 th400 1+2 and that is getting a ~4400 - 4800, part number sst89-6 with a mechanical diode.
I feel this particular one needs to be made sure it can start and run first. But yes id like to see a goat rope cam ran in the cam competition. Ill spot the 100 entry
Guys are right it is too much lift for the cam challenge but now that makes me wonder how good really is a dynosim. An amateur cam spec'r could say I want max average power from 5-8k rpm tweak it a bit to stabilize valve train etc etc and spec a badass cam himself. Instead of having to spend 20+ years doing dyno pulls and being a camshaft guru. This could change the game for the racing world! Excited to see how it goes. Best of luck
Don't be worried that's REAL similar to my BTR LS7 Stage 4 V2 specs 247/264 111+3 and .662 lift...its seen 8100 with BR7 heads and Hi Ram... It's gonna start and be just fine, as long as you have PTV clearance those probably 11 degree heads will help that... That cam is also IIRC similar to Cam Motions King Titan we have also ran...
249/265 at 050 on a 111.5 lobe center ... That is not a big camshaft ! It has a fast rate to get too .700 lift but it's not that bad ... We have run way bigger than that ... If you want to see a big camshaft watch Steve Morris big black hemi ... It's like 300 degrees of duration at .050 and one inch lift ...
This family of heads are truly designed for racing or massive stroker combos with high compression. Good for most crazy folk. But not the best. MBE makes the best l.s. head. And it is also a race only piece..
Badass. Don't know the specs because it was in the car when we got it and I was 17 so I didn't think about measuring the stroke of the lifter to figure out the lift but out 62 nova had a full roller 377 sbc when we got it and it still had a smidge of lope at 4200 rpm. Accidentally shifted down in a drag race when the ratch shifter messed up and it turned somewhere between 12k-14k rpm before it pulled a piston apart
I used variations of Dyno 2000, Dyno 2003 & DynoSim. It's a pretty interface, but I bit the bullet and bought Engine Analyzer Pro. Much happier with the granularity and real world engine dyno curves.
Hey man im sorry its not related but im tuning an ls2 without wideband using only o2 sensors and ltft only after 2 to 3 times driving i managed to get the ltft close to 3-4 percent but then i checked the stft table and it shook me down to my core it was 25 all the way below 3000 rpm did i screw it up? I checked the previous logs where the ltfts are close to 15 and the stfts are no higher than 19
Is this click-bait? Because I'm not sure what's so crazy aggressive about a 249/265 on a 111.5 LSA. It's rowdy, but it's not extreme by any means, and there are plenty of folks grinding and running cams more aggressive than that. It's nothing like a top fuel cam - those guys run at least 50* more duration, and double the overlap, and near double the lift. It'll start and run just fine, I have customers that street drive bigger cams than that. >13:1 SCR will be important to keep it from being a lazy turd down low, and you can forget about it being happy under 3000rpm without a load, but I fail to see where it's this crazy "will it even start" monster your describing. I don't know if the entire video is supposed to be deeply satirical or if you really believe everything you're saying.
You didn’t give the duration numbers? Unless somehow it skipped, just hear Lsa and lift and total overlap? Also you said you did a sim with 100k profiles and made best from 2k-7k but then you changed the cam profile to half the overlap of the one you specd? I’m genuinely confused as to how the actual cam is going to do anything close to the original cam. 34* should have no issues starting but if it was 68 then yea I’d be seriously worried. The cam going in my ls7 is quite a bit more overlap than 34…really confused here haha but I’m in for the results to see what it does. Should actually make very good peak power but I’m betting will be weakish down low…but good luck nonetheless!
So its 249/264 @ 0.05", you will have piston to valve clearance most likley with that duration on a stock LS3 piston. Its not as big as a Top Fuel dragster cam, quit being so dramatic. Have you been doing drugs?
Better watch out for the trolls. What you showed was not Frankenstein it's Frankenstein's monster. And the trolls look for stupid shit like that to start crying about.
I'd also say in my opinion you have it backwards. Heads are way more important than cam. I'd rather have a kick azz set heads and a soso cam anyday over a soso set heads and kick azz cam
@@GoatRopeGarage mine peaks bout 385hp with that camshaft n/a, prob your heads make better use of the lift/duration where mine is smaller valve/flow, ive had that before with a guy i was helping tune he had same basic build as mine bottom end, camshaft, boost, just he had big Frankenstein heads and doing a wot run his actually gained boost showing restriction where mine with smaller valves still good cnc heads slightly lowered boost with more rpm, also i think he's bigger valve was too close to the wall for the 4'' bore, yours will be interesting tho i have thought about if someone done exactly what ur doing just to see how it goes, that dynosim can put out some crazy cam specs when u do those tests, cant wait to see what happens
Dude, I love seeing what all can be done theoretically. I have another cam for peak horsepower specific to this combo, heads, ported intake, bigger TB, long tubes on stock compression ratio and it estimated around 620 peak hp. I am probably going to go ahead and grind it to test it, way more rational cam profile all around and closer to what you can find off the shelf tweaked for more lift essentially. I enjoy the process of just tweaking combinations and seeing if they "should" produce more or less power.
I hope nobody gets this cam also, turds are free at the waste treatment plant and that's what this thing will be. If you want a kick azz cam go to a professional engine builder with ton of wins behind their name.....
Full specs for the cam are:
Intake Duration at .050 - 249
Exhaust Duration at .050 - 265
CLA - 111.5
S2S Overlap - 62.5 degrees
Gross lift intake/exhaust - .6966
Peak Power
584hp at 6500
518lb/ft at 5000
@@GoatRopeGarage i think it should run fine as long as theres ptv clearance
@rileydalton3958 totally ready to fly cut, I don’t think they will clear with this duration and lift
i have a similar cam that i have tuned on a stock P01 ECM in a 2001 Truck if you would like a copy of the file.
Nice to see you're having some fun with this one dude, hope it pans out for ya 🤘 - Taz.
Tick 246/266 111.5+3 .680 .650
About 34 degrees overlap. 402ci, 0411 PCM. TFS ls3 heads, mod runner fast ported. Professionally tuned. Runs fine on the streets through an auto.
Very close! What stall you running?
@@GoatRopeGarage with the 4l60e its a fti 3800 9.5'' lockup shelf converter. ''street racer series''. Although I ordered and am waiting on a fti lvl 4.5 th400 1+2 and that is getting a ~4400 - 4800, part number sst89-6 with a mechanical diode.
@@B4CMARO Bet it sound sweet as hell
Pls send this cam into Weingartner Racing Cam Challenge to have tested! It fits into the range that he'll be testing from perfectly.
I feel this particular one needs to be made sure it can start and run first. But yes id like to see a goat rope cam ran in the cam competition. Ill spot the 100 entry
Too much lift for the challenge.
I think he has a 660 max lift.on the competition
Guys are right it is too much lift for the cam challenge but now that makes me wonder how good really is a dynosim. An amateur cam spec'r could say I want max average power from 5-8k rpm tweak it a bit to stabilize valve train etc etc and spec a badass cam himself. Instead of having to spend 20+ years doing dyno pulls and being a camshaft guru. This could change the game for the racing world! Excited to see how it goes. Best of luck
@@1clean35th I dought it . the one thing everyone has left out so far is a dyno is not a tire .
Don't be worried that's REAL similar to my BTR LS7 Stage 4 V2 specs 247/264 111+3 and .662 lift...its seen 8100 with BR7 heads and Hi Ram...
It's gonna start and be just fine, as long as you have PTV clearance those probably 11 degree heads will help that...
That cam is also IIRC similar to Cam Motions King Titan we have also ran...
Always enjoy your videos. Still watching you tune and trying to get a handle on it myself. Thanks for keeping it real.
249/265 at 050 on a 111.5 lobe center ... That is not a big camshaft ! It has a fast rate to get too .700 lift but it's not that bad ... We have run way bigger than that ... If you want to see a big camshaft watch Steve Morris big black hemi ... It's like 300 degrees of duration at .050 and one inch lift ...
Apples and oranges, this cam is pretty small compared to what is in my 598, exhaust side is well over 300 at .050
This family of heads are truly designed for racing or massive stroker combos with high compression. Good for most crazy folk. But not the best. MBE makes the best l.s. head. And it is also a race only piece..
Badass. Don't know the specs because it was in the car when we got it and I was 17 so I didn't think about measuring the stroke of the lifter to figure out the lift but out 62 nova had a full roller 377 sbc when we got it and it still had a smidge of lope at 4200 rpm. Accidentally shifted down in a drag race when the ratch shifter messed up and it turned somewhere between 12k-14k rpm before it pulled a piston apart
I used variations of Dyno 2000, Dyno 2003 & DynoSim. It's a pretty interface, but I bit the bullet and bought Engine Analyzer Pro. Much happier with the granularity and real world engine dyno curves.
I’ll have to dig into it!
Hey man im sorry its not related but im tuning an ls2 without wideband using only o2 sensors and ltft only after 2 to 3 times driving i managed to get the ltft close to 3-4 percent but then i checked the stft table and it shook me down to my core it was 25 all the way below 3000 rpm did i screw it up? I checked the previous logs where the ltfts are close to 15 and the stfts are no higher than 19
This is so nuts... I love it so much.
Putting a 252/264 111.5LSA from cam motion in a 408ci here soon, has 35* of overlap
249/257 .700 in my ls7 headed 5.3. Many ls cams out there over 300duration
I have an LQ4 with a 500 lift cam, what do I tune first?
Pushrod boys have it easy in this regard
15 there is my number for the give away everyone get their numbers in for the wildest GRG cam give away .
If you don't want to have your time wasted 7:40 to jump ahead past all the yapping
Thank you!
So what are the specs on the cam malaka?
Is this click-bait? Because I'm not sure what's so crazy aggressive about a 249/265 on a 111.5 LSA. It's rowdy, but it's not extreme by any means, and there are plenty of folks grinding and running cams more aggressive than that. It's nothing like a top fuel cam - those guys run at least 50* more duration, and double the overlap, and near double the lift. It'll start and run just fine, I have customers that street drive bigger cams than that. >13:1 SCR will be important to keep it from being a lazy turd down low, and you can forget about it being happy under 3000rpm without a load, but I fail to see where it's this crazy "will it even start" monster your describing.
I don't know if the entire video is supposed to be deeply satirical or if you really believe everything you're saying.
Did he mention the duration I just heard about lsa overlap and lift
Hate to be that guy but those heads are known to have seat failures. Popular china casting used among other companies. Hopefully you got a good set
You didn’t give the duration numbers? Unless somehow it skipped, just hear Lsa and lift and total overlap? Also you said you did a sim with 100k profiles and made best from 2k-7k but then you changed the cam profile to half the overlap of the one you specd? I’m genuinely confused as to how the actual cam is going to do anything close to the original cam. 34* should have no issues starting but if it was 68 then yea I’d be seriously worried. The cam going in my ls7 is quite a bit more overlap than 34…really confused here haha but I’m in for the results to see what it does. Should actually make very good peak power but I’m betting will be weakish down low…but good luck nonetheless!
Pinned the specs in the comments
@@GoatRopeGarage thank you! Good luck!!
Dreaming of Bee Hives X 16.
I've really only heard of cleetus with Frankincense intakes
Just how insane is it?
I hope you misspoke when you mentioned overlap at bottom dead center. Otherwise it will absolutely not start
What is the duration at 0.05"? You didnt give the cam specs correctly
What is the duration
Wait till Skynet finds out.....smh! 100k profiles....you've got to keep that kind of progress QUIET!
So its 249/264 @ 0.05", you will have piston to valve clearance most likley with that duration on a stock LS3 piston. Its not as big as a Top Fuel dragster cam, quit being so dramatic. Have you been doing drugs?
You're crazy, but this is interesting.
Better watch out for the trolls. What you showed was not Frankenstein it's Frankenstein's monster. And the trolls look for stupid shit like that to start crying about.
I'd also say in my opinion you have it backwards. Heads are way more important than cam. I'd rather have a kick azz set heads and a soso cam anyday over a soso set heads and kick azz cam
Have you ever watched David Visard?
this is the why people hate ls engine heros, thats an RV cam compared most serious cams. im out .
Very interested in this would also love to see holdner dyno it
If I can get it running I’ll see if he has something he can slap in it and test it!
ive got all my specs in my dynosim6 for boosted LS 6.0 and i put those camshaft numbers in and... i lost 400hp 😜😆
Run it without boost versus a Chevy performance cam
@@GoatRopeGarage mine peaks bout 385hp with that camshaft n/a, prob your heads make better use of the lift/duration where mine is smaller valve/flow, ive had that before with a guy i was helping tune he had same basic build as mine bottom end, camshaft, boost, just he had big Frankenstein heads and doing a wot run his actually gained boost showing restriction where mine with smaller valves still good cnc heads slightly lowered boost with more rpm, also i think he's bigger valve was too close to the wall for the 4'' bore, yours will be interesting tho i have thought about if someone done exactly what ur doing just to see how it goes, that dynosim can put out some crazy cam specs when u do those tests, cant wait to see what happens
Dude, I love seeing what all can be done theoretically. I have another cam for peak horsepower specific to this combo, heads, ported intake, bigger TB, long tubes on stock compression ratio and it estimated around 620 peak hp. I am probably going to go ahead and grind it to test it, way more rational cam profile all around and closer to what you can find off the shelf tweaked for more lift essentially. I enjoy the process of just tweaking combinations and seeing if they "should" produce more or less power.
Bro Frankenstein intakes exploded, overpriced trash
I hope nobody gets this cam also, turds are free at the waste treatment plant and that's what this thing will be. If you want a kick azz cam go to a professional engine builder with ton of wins behind their name.....
I specifically tell people to not get this cam lol