I am riding a Wilier Triestina...I am italian (but leaving in Germany)...I was born and lived many years closer to Bassano del Grappa. It's great honor & pleasure watch this video. Well done!!
I like all Italian bikes and things cycling. I just bought a 2012 Masi Alare road bike for $240 here in Texas. She's Euro blue and white, 56 cm, aluminum frame, carbon fork, Shimano Sora 2 X 9 drivetrain and weighs 21.2 pounds complete. I've named her Sophia and can't wait for her to be delivered.
Jon: You forgot to mention why Magni has the inner tube in his teeth - connected to his bars. He was riding (uphill) with a broken collar bone and couldn't pull on the bars (or get out of the saddle, for that matter). He was also found not guilty, possibly incorrectly, of war crimes, as a supporter / member of the Italian fascists during WWII.
jackseph03 Yep, noticed it as well. Video had some nice graphics, but the commentary?? Not surprised really as Jon is someone who seems to only judge bikes by some vapid ‘photo rules’ - crank in the 3 o’clock/ valves at the 6 o’clock. Very shallow.
His fascist politics are so sad, especially since Italian communists had liberated Trieste and many other northern Italian enclaves months before the US and Soviet troops had arrived. The communist workers had taken over factories from the generally fascist owners/bosses and either kicked them out on their bums or required them to take jobs on the shop floor in like everyone else. They also gave jobs to soldiers who had been disabled by war and who had been left to poverty under Italian capitalism/fascism. This all horrified the American generals when they finally arrived. I wouldn't be surprised if Willier's factory was one of these. All this was documented in the 1991 book by Noam Chomsky "Deterring Democracy."
@@patrickoshea9398 Very shallow? expected a bit more historical perspective? Perhaps a retrospective of fascism from Mussolini through WWII? Piss off and go to the history channel. It's GCN, and this was an interesting video.....about BIKES!!
The size aspect Claudio mentioned, and many articles mention is no joke. My size XL Cento10SL not only fits my 6'2 body like a glove. But is very aggressive while somehow maintaining a comfortable ride. Another very important factor to me is that the proportions are great, my XL Cento10 looks aesthetic and clean. Meanwhile my previous size 57.5(XL) Pinarello prince was Massive.
You missed the most obvious reason they are producing in the far east: it's cheap. That is reason enough for bike companies to have their frames built over there.
I own one cento 1 SR 2015.. like it really much, thinking of repainting it to the ramato color.. it has slightly angled top tube.. like most of the high end bike these days.. wilier rocks
I got 2 wiliers, one is 20 years old Alu, and the other is a cento 1air 2014 I really love these bikes , they run perfectly , i'd to have a cromovelato one
I briefly had a Triestina...got the frame cheap from a mail order house, felt illegal paying so little. Bought it mostly for the name, wish I had kept it.
At 9:02 in he says “Theres a team behind me that sanding down forks, frames...” and “the team” are all stood there having a chat. One’s even leaning on the bench! Made me chuckle. 😂😂😂😂😂
‘In 1995 we made 1,000 frames per year. Now our number is 30,000,’ says Andrea Gastaldello, co-owner of Wilier. As a result, Wilier’s headquarters is used less as a factory and more as a centre for assembly, design and prototype development. As with most of the high-end Italian brands - such as Pinarello, De Rosa and Colnago - frame production largely takes place in Asian factories
Go and see Colnago,,,,,,COLNAGO,,,,,,,or even. DER❤️SA.......since you are in the motherland.....you are the best Jon....you bring out the kid spirit In all of us old farts that love cycling......
Back in the 1960s my local bike builder had one of his frames copper plated for a customer. It cost a fortune (for the time), looked awesome and the plater said it ruined his vat and wouldn't do another! And the owner polished the fork crown so much that he wore away the plating.
If given a blind test of bikes from Trek, Specialized, Canyon, Bianchi, Wilier, etc would you be able to feel any noticeable difference when riding? All of these high-end bikes have very similar geometry and they are all built with the same or similar materials, I think GCN should investigate this.
Great video JC is excellent and the bikes are really beautiful. At 3:36 "Need I go on?" Unfortunately yes, Femke van den driessche. Ironic that one of the next bikes featured is a lovely e-bike...
Nice to see Jon's complete inability to keep his hands off of anything he can get to within touching distance of is still going strong since eurobike! Next GCN challenge: look but don't touch 😁
I'm a huge fan of the Superleggera and that "Modern Classic" style of bike. Do you think you guys can do a piece on that sort of steed? Superlegerra Vs. Colnago Master?
Nice video to see where my P.7 was painted and finished. No mention that Wilier is an acronym for W l’Italia LIberata E Redenta, where W is an abbreviation for "viva!", as other riders that ask me about my bike want to know WHO Wilier is.
I love these manufacturing facility visits. Generally they are an interesting mix of old style and modern painting and assembly facilities. Since the frames are almost always built in East Asia, painting and final assembly are the only things done in these plants. Since all of the frames come from the same few plants and the non frame components are all from the same few manufacturers, I wonder if there are any real differences between modern bikes or if we are really mostly paying for branding.
You gave me an idea for another road bike that is made in Italy. I wonder if the De Bernardi factory still exist in Italy. I like the steel bike. I did take a look website. The prices seems decent. Cheers!
I live near there, you could of popped in for a cafe for before we tackled Monte Grappa. You should do the Brevette (all the routes up the Grappa)on a Wilier in the shortest time, make a good video of a beautiful set of rides.
What's your opinion on Wilier Toni bevilacqua? Saw an cheap offer for it. 599€. I have heard bad things about it like it's brakes are not optimal for descent and it weights 21 lbs. I am new to the cycling scene, what bike are recommended for beginners?
Jon what a great tour I absolutely fell in love with the wiler centro in ramata several years ago and when they came to the Toronto international bike show in Ontario Canada back in March I inquired about that paint job and the Centro and what they told me was this The Centro was $18700 ca with that paint but they will gladly paint any bike in that paint but that paint is a $2500 ca upgrade to your bike (just the paint job) or if I would like I could buy a quart of it for $960 ca and paint my own bike. 😳🥵🤯 Apparently it actually has copper and gold dust flake to create its almighty glorious beautiful shine Wonder if the wife will let me paint my bike 🤔
You may want to explain the whole "break" thing for those not privy, I feel there may be some people thinking that people in the UK only do high tea and don't have lunch breaks.
Question For You. I did not notice a 'Contact' phone number for assistance in ordering from your cycling kits web page. Do you have such a number that I can call ?
Which part of this did you find the most interesting?
yes
Hey I Want To Join The GCN Cycling Club Can i Join Sir?
I can't get my mind off that beautiful copper paintwork!
@@Night_Diver81 Yeah Me Too
The painting process
I am riding a Wilier Triestina...I am italian (but leaving in Germany)...I was born and lived many years closer to Bassano del Grappa. It's great honor & pleasure watch this video. Well done!!
Thanks
Wilier make me proud to be Italian
I like all Italian bikes and things cycling. I just bought a 2012 Masi Alare road bike for $240 here in Texas. She's Euro blue and white, 56 cm, aluminum frame, carbon fork, Shimano Sora 2 X 9 drivetrain and weighs 21.2 pounds complete. I've named her Sophia and can't wait for her to be delivered.
That admiral blue paint job made me drool a bit not gonna lie. Fascinating and well presented by Mr. Cannings!
Jon: You forgot to mention why Magni has the inner tube in his teeth - connected to his bars. He was riding (uphill) with a broken collar bone and couldn't pull on the bars (or get out of the saddle, for that matter).
He was also found not guilty, possibly incorrectly, of war crimes, as a supporter / member of the Italian fascists during WWII.
jackseph03 Yep, noticed it as well. Video had some nice graphics, but the commentary?? Not surprised really as Jon is someone who seems to only judge bikes by some vapid ‘photo rules’ - crank in the 3 o’clock/ valves at the 6 o’clock. Very shallow.
His fascist politics are so sad, especially since Italian communists had liberated Trieste and many other northern Italian enclaves months before the US and Soviet troops had arrived. The communist workers had taken over factories from the generally fascist owners/bosses and either kicked them out on their bums or required them to take jobs on the shop floor in like everyone else. They also gave jobs to soldiers who had been disabled by war and who had been left to poverty under Italian capitalism/fascism. This all horrified the American generals when they finally arrived. I wouldn't be surprised if Willier's factory was one of these.
All this was documented in the 1991 book by Noam Chomsky "Deterring Democracy."
@@calvinminer4365 Wilier are not actually from Trieste, although I can't claim any knowledge of their politics
@@calvinminer4365 In fact, Yugoslav Partisans liberated Trieste.
@@patrickoshea9398 Very shallow? expected a bit more historical perspective? Perhaps a retrospective of fascism from Mussolini through WWII? Piss off and go to the history channel. It's GCN, and this was an interesting video.....about BIKES!!
Fun fact: the "arrow" logo of the Wilier Triestina is actually called "alabarda" and it's the symbol of Trieste
Great fact thanks for sharing
thank you
what??? no mention of Giordana Cottur of Trieste
Wow, that was heaps of fun.
GCN HQ Tour!!
This!
Jon my favorite part was you walking us through the factory and the process. Great job mate !
No one paints a bike like they do it seems like. That bronze and silver finish is stunning.
Music in the beginning and the wheel spinning is soooo satesfying 😎
yasssssssss!!!! that was on point
The size aspect Claudio mentioned, and many articles mention is no joke. My size XL Cento10SL not only fits my 6'2 body like a glove. But is very aggressive while somehow maintaining a comfortable ride. Another very important factor to me is that the proportions are great, my XL Cento10 looks aesthetic and clean. Meanwhile my previous size 57.5(XL) Pinarello prince was Massive.
I like the way that Jon presents in aero mode. Elbows tucked in to avoid drag.
Always efficient even at presenting
Glad UR back Jon. We missed U.
You missed the most obvious reason they are producing in the far east: it's cheap. That is reason enough for bike companies to have their frames built over there.
Another reason why some of the Chinese make frames just as good as the big euro brands.
@@andrewy1983 you mean just as bad.
People rail against China, but keep buying “Made in China”
I'd much rather pay for a bike made in the US or Europe.
christdragon Same. Not always easy though
I want one. I just like how their bikes look. Que bella!
I really love the Wilier Triestina designs and colors!
Love my Wilier Cento 10 Air. Does everything really well.
Amazing! Love Wilier even more now.
Brilliant vid Jon, its great to learn about heritage paintwork schemes and how they keep their traditions.
Man that blue and black paint is speaking to me.....the way they paint their bikes seems like such a high quality...
One of the most interesting videos I've ever seen on TH-cam! Bravo GCN 👏 I really, really enjoyed watching this 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks Marie
Gotta love factory tours!
Regardless of anything else, Wilier make super nice bikes. Nice video Jon.
the way they build the bikes up was super to see. thx
I miss those wonderfully sleek quill stems. Every manufacture had their own, So cool. Great video:)
Why not do a factory tour of B'Twin Village in Lillie?
Owen Chua good idea. GCN do it!!!
Or maybe a factory tour of Chinese cycling components/bike manufacturers. I'd like for them to review groupsets like Microshift or Sensah too.
Because you can buy b-twin bikes without taking out a bank loan. Where's their profit in convincing you to buy good quality, affordable bikes?
Nice idea, I wanna see them do it!
Because they haven’t paid the £15,000 marketing fee
This is too cool, sexy and hyper nice for me!
I can't resist the beauty of Wilier Triestina's bikes....
Stunning bikes 🧡💛💚💙💜🖤
I own one cento 1 SR 2015.. like it really much, thinking of repainting it to the ramato color.. it has slightly angled top tube.. like most of the high end bike these days.. wilier rocks
My favorite road bike of all time
I got 2 wiliers, one is 20 years old Alu, and the other is a cento 1air 2014
I really love these bikes , they run perfectly
, i'd to have a cromovelato one
I briefly had a Triestina...got the frame cheap from a mail order house, felt illegal paying so little. Bought it mostly for the name, wish I had kept it.
My grandfather, whom i consider the best cyclist of all time, had a Wilier as first bike
Jon,
You’ve converted me from decals to deckalls. Thanks for the pro tip. Feels faster too!
@Allan Graphics
Cheers John, another nice vid. Cracking paint shop & prep area.
Super bikes. I had picked up one way back in 1985 .. the copper finish , it would stand out from a long distance 👍
At 9:02 in he says “Theres a team behind me that sanding down forks, frames...” and “the team” are all stood there having a chat. One’s even leaning on the bench! Made me chuckle. 😂😂😂😂😂
‘In 1995 we made 1,000 frames per year. Now our number is 30,000,’ says Andrea Gastaldello, co-owner of Wilier. As a result, Wilier’s headquarters is used less as a factory and more as a centre for assembly, design and prototype development. As with most of the high-end Italian brands - such as Pinarello, De Rosa and Colnago - frame production largely takes place in Asian factories
JC loves to get his grubby little hands on a nice Wilier.
Jon "Grubby Hands" Cannings
Did anyone feel uncomfortable when Jon held that polished frame with his bare hand?
This may be fatal for an employee who polishes frames
No.
Hahaha, I was thinking now they have to polish it again.
Love the paint jobs
They certainly are beautiful
Go and see Colnago,,,,,,COLNAGO,,,,,,,or even. DER❤️SA.......since you are in the motherland.....you are the best Jon....you bring out the kid spirit In all of us old farts that love cycling......
Perfect video! I truly enjoyed this. It has me interested in the Wilier company and further my love of the sport. Than you!
Thanks John , we loved making it and it's great to hear that you enjoyed it too
Brilliant video very interesting, the spraying in particular looked like low pressure spraying to me...
Thanks Me Me,
I got Wilier GTR Team Racing. I love this bike.
Very nice clean factory much nicer to work in than the usual dark noisey factories.
Wilier è top bici
Perfetto aero e molto veloce.
J'adore 🚵♂️❤👍🏻
Great job Jon, that's it ! Now i have to get me a Wilier :(
JADE 4 Nice vlog, but I’m a Bianchi fan. Thanks for the great tour.
Really lovely video - thanks for producing!!
Thanks very much, we enjoyed making it
Back in the 1960s my local bike builder had one of his frames copper plated for a customer. It cost a fortune (for the time), looked awesome and the plater said it ruined his vat and wouldn't do another! And the owner polished the fork crown so much that he wore away the plating.
I definitely want a willier
I have the Wilier centro hybrid. Its a sweet bike
Great brand, great place to go to and very nice people the Gasteldello family!
Now I know what my next bike is going to be 💡
Still have my Wilier Cento Uno in UHC colour way , amazing bike and hand painted
If given a blind test of bikes from Trek, Specialized, Canyon, Bianchi, Wilier, etc would you be able to feel any noticeable difference when riding? All of these high-end bikes have very similar geometry and they are all built with the same or similar materials, I think GCN should investigate this.
Brilliant - thank you. Only in Italia !
Italy is great in manufacturing of bikes and hiking shoes even the best in the world
Great video JC is excellent and the bikes are really beautiful. At 3:36 "Need I go on?" Unfortunately yes, Femke van den driessche. Ironic that one of the next bikes featured is a lovely e-bike...
Awesome Jon love it.
bike box: this side up, always, do not lay on side
wilier factory: *stacks pallet with bike boxes layed on their side*
Nice to see Jon's complete inability to keep his hands off of anything he can get to within touching distance of is still going strong since eurobike! Next GCN challenge: look but don't touch 😁
Jon's grubby little hands are up for the challenge
More videos like this, please!
Wilier is a very very super nice bike!
Hope you had a good jolly boys outing. Didn’t really see any bike building going on though.
I'm a huge fan of the Superleggera and that "Modern Classic" style of bike.
Do you think you guys can do a piece on that sort of steed? Superlegerra Vs. Colnago Master?
DREAM BRAND
DREAM BIKE
DREAM LOGO
😍😍😍
Nice video to see where my P.7 was painted and finished. No mention that Wilier is an acronym for W l’Italia LIberata E Redenta, where W is an abbreviation for "viva!", as other riders that ask me about my bike want to know WHO Wilier is.
Good video Jhon and nice tshirt
I love these manufacturing facility visits. Generally they are an interesting mix of old style and modern painting and assembly facilities. Since the frames are almost always built in East Asia, painting and final assembly are the only things done in these plants. Since all of the frames come from the same few plants and the non frame components are all from the same few manufacturers, I wonder if there are any real differences between modern bikes or if we are really mostly paying for branding.
Yes we are.
Sure we are, paying for traditional "italian" bikes 🤦🏻♂️
@14:22 "Loads of old memorabilia hanging about" - might want to donate your jeans and trainers😆
Great vid Jon👍
Hahah! what are you saying?
Can GCN find that one megafactory in Schenzen, China where pretty much all the frames for all the brands are made? That would be very cool.
I suppose the frame manufacturers are under strict non-disclosure requirements, I doubt a factory tour can ever happen.
Interesting video Jon
Cheers
You gave me an idea for another road bike that is made in Italy. I wonder if the De Bernardi factory still exist in Italy. I like the steel bike. I did take a look website. The prices seems decent. Cheers!
Hey Jon, cracking video!
Just a heads up; the double g leggera is pronounced as a j in English. It means ‘light’ (as in weight, not lumens).
@daAnder71 It seems to be working alright XD
I'm quite sure Alan or any of the GCN Italian crew called out Jon for this, way before Lasty upped the video on TH-cam.
Yet another place they've banned Jon's grubby little hands from
We got to differentiate generic grubby little hands from Jon's Grubby Little Hands™ clearly, here.
Fabulous!
elbows tucked in even when he's not riding a very aero personality.
Great video, thank!
Thanks Howard, glad you enjoyed it
MASTERPIECE...!
I live near there, you could of popped in for a cafe for before we tackled Monte Grappa. You should do the Brevette (all the routes up the Grappa)on a Wilier in the shortest time, make a good video of a beautiful set of rides.
I was waiting for the part where you would say we could win one
I am in doubt between Specialized Tarmac SL 6 Sport or Wilier GTR Team - Ultegra. Which one is the best?
What's your opinion on Wilier Toni bevilacqua? Saw an cheap offer for it. 599€. I have heard bad things about it like it's brakes are not optimal for descent and it weights 21 lbs. I am new to the cycling scene, what bike are recommended for beginners?
do you have a rain jacket with long back tail so rain does not getting into pants when riding a bike, is your jacket breathable? thanks
10.2 kilos is the same weight as my bike which isn't an e bike lol
I ❤️ wilier
Jon what a great tour
I absolutely fell in love with the wiler centro in ramata several years ago and when they came to the Toronto international bike show in Ontario Canada back in March I inquired about that paint job and the Centro and what they told me was this
The Centro was $18700 ca with that paint but they will gladly paint any bike in that paint but that paint is a $2500 ca upgrade to your bike (just the paint job) or if I would like I could buy a quart of it for $960 ca and paint my own bike.
😳🥵🤯
Apparently it actually has copper and gold dust flake to create its almighty glorious beautiful shine
Wonder if the wife will let me paint my bike 🤔
I’m not sure if he told me that I was in such ah over a Centro in ramata in real life
I love history, thank you
Could we buy directly at the factory and take a bike home on the plane?
I'm confused about the brake comment. Why aren't your brakes in the UK like in Italy?
For me in the US, we have the left lever for the front and right for rear. In Italy, I believe that it is the opposite.
In uk we have left brake for the rear and right for the front.
They're the other way around, just like driving and saluting in the military.
14:04 uhm, did you need a pee-brake there, Jon? or are you just flamboyant like that?
LOL
Closet golfer with that pose
@@henrylees7814 golfer, yeah I can see Jon hitting a few balls
You may want to explain the whole "break" thing for those not privy, I feel there may be some people thinking that people in the UK only do high tea and don't have lunch breaks.
Wow I like it.....
i had wilier gtrsl 🥰
Wow. So many negative comments on this video. No one is forcing people to watch this.
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
A little more discussion on the breaks?
Question For You. I did not notice a 'Contact' phone number for assistance in ordering from your cycling kits web page. Do you have such a number that I can call ?
Why not do a recumbent bike factory Tour? ICE in England or M5 in Holland would be a favorite