Some clarifications: - Upwind trim: as crazy as it sounds, we trimmed for good VMG for the sails we had available for the conditions we had. We went remarkably faster and higher while being heeled too much. What went wrong was too tight main sheet in tacks shown on the video. - With 2nd reef there was no slot between main and jib. Flapping you can see in upwind clips is not backwind. It is simply that main is not trimmed tight because then we would heel even more. - Canvas size: yes, we knew very well we had too big sails upwind. However, that is the smallest jib we have (in addition to a very small storm jib, which would not provide enough power to move us forward in that wind and in those waves). We don't have more than two reefs on the main. But we decided to go to learn anyway, instead of "oh well, we don't have optimal sails for this weather, let's stay at home". - Video does not show what happened before kite takedown (except that we managed to mess up the lazy sheet, but reasons for that are not visible on the video). Assuming that is how we planned to take it down is... stupid. Everything went according to the plan until tackline was accidentally opened (first a bit and then fully). Until that point everything was fine, and kite was coming down nicely. - Downwind trim & kicker: it is not visible from the video, but true wind was basically straight behind us. Kicker is just tight enough to keep the sail from twisting around lower spreader. Letting it out more would not help, and we did not need more power downwind. - From the experience we knew even on a really bad wipeout waterline is not coming even close to the hatch, so we did not have washboard in place. Thinking about it now, there is no particularly good reason not to put it there just to be overly careful. - There was ~2 hours of video, and what was shared were the best and the worst moments. I could cut it to only include good hoist, nice downwind clips (for 15 minutes or so), and a few good tacks, some upwind before going to heaviest winds, and no-one would know what else happened. However, what we have understood over the years is that pushing the limits, failing miserably together with experienced people, and then learning and sharing those failures is the best way to learn.
Great that you went out and practiced in conditions like that. I think the moist we've seen on our J92 is 28kts. Can you remember the area of your' smallest' kite see in the film?
+Jeremiah Blatz yes, for sure. We don't have 3rd reef or trysail, and we didn't want to use storm jib (we had that onboard and available, though). These were the smallest sails we had that still allowed us to make progress upwind.
Some clarifications:
- Upwind trim: as crazy as it sounds, we trimmed for good VMG for the sails we had available for the conditions we had. We went remarkably faster and higher while being heeled too much. What went wrong was too tight main sheet in tacks shown on the video.
- With 2nd reef there was no slot between main and jib. Flapping you can see in upwind clips is not backwind. It is simply that main is not trimmed tight because then we would heel even more.
- Canvas size: yes, we knew very well we had too big sails upwind. However, that is the smallest jib we have (in addition to a very small storm jib, which would not provide enough power to move us forward in that wind and in those waves). We don't have more than two reefs on the main. But we decided to go to learn anyway, instead of "oh well, we don't have optimal sails for this weather, let's stay at home".
- Video does not show what happened before kite takedown (except that we managed to mess up the lazy sheet, but reasons for that are not visible on the video). Assuming that is how we planned to take it down is... stupid. Everything went according to the plan until tackline was accidentally opened (first a bit and then fully). Until that point everything was fine, and kite was coming down nicely.
- Downwind trim & kicker: it is not visible from the video, but true wind was basically straight behind us. Kicker is just tight enough to keep the sail from twisting around lower spreader. Letting it out more would not help, and we did not need more power downwind.
- From the experience we knew even on a really bad wipeout waterline is not coming even close to the hatch, so we did not have washboard in place. Thinking about it now, there is no particularly good reason not to put it there just to be overly careful.
- There was ~2 hours of video, and what was shared were the best and the worst moments. I could cut it to only include good hoist, nice downwind clips (for 15 minutes or so), and a few good tacks, some upwind before going to heaviest winds, and no-one would know what else happened. However, what we have understood over the years is that pushing the limits, failing miserably together with experienced people, and then learning and sharing those failures is the best way to learn.
Great that you went out and practiced in conditions like that. I think the moist we've seen on our J92 is 28kts. Can you remember the area of your' smallest' kite see in the film?
Thanks for sharing both good and bad moments. What did you use to record wind and boat speed and then sync them with the video?
Looking good!
Reaching: how about crew further aft to prevent broaching? Or would that kill speed due to the j's narrow Stern?
What is the bost type and size?
J/92 9.2m
@@webbers18 Swedish made?
@@janisspalvins677 mine is French. J Composites. There are also American manufacturers
Maybe a touch overcanvased on the upwinds... 😉
+Jeremiah Blatz yes, for sure. We don't have 3rd reef or trysail, and we didn't want to use storm jib (we had that onboard and available, though). These were the smallest sails we had that still allowed us to make progress upwind.