In regard to younger guys. Honestly, there's nothing left to ruin. A significant portion of young men (30% I believe) are having no luck whatsoever in dating or hook-ups. For those lads, it's a choice between becoming a monk and looking elsewhere.
It's more then 30% if your looking at gen z I know plenty of younger guys who are successful & still can't pull its honestly sad but hey go where your appreciated.
I first visited Thailand as a 21 year old just out of his first long term relationship. First night in the bars of Bangkok was an eye opener to say the least! Ended up very drunk, down a lot of baht, and with a gang of four or five gorgeous bar girls in a small apartment they shared. Incredible night… That visit didn’t really change my idea of relationships or expectations of western women, just showed me something better. It certainly changed my life by showing me paradise was real, and remarkably affordable.
Basically everything right, Daz. For older men like me at 63 there is definitely the chance to date much younger and very beautiful women in Pattaya. 2 weeks ago I met women for LT at 24 yo. and for ST at 21 yo. and I only paid local rates. What I regret is that I discovered Pattaya way too late. If I had been there for the first time 35 years ago, I would have been spared a lot of stress and a number of pointless and expensive relationships in the West. Pattaya opened my eyes to the truth about the relationship between man and woman.
The west is dead Daz …. Once the young lads get a taste of Pattaya there is no going back after that ….. they already see how doomed relationships / marriages are in the west so when they hit Pattaya for the first time it’s game over imo …… keep me the great context Daz always a pleasure 👍
After my ex cheated and got away with the house I spend 3 years rebuilding myself. I tried dating various girls only to be dissapointed. I rather just stay alone and go to thailand 6 weeks a year. I'm financially stable enough to enjoy myself here.
I was too busy doing the marriage and family thing as a younger man which as we all know eventually disintegrates into emptiness in many cases. 70 years now, pretty fit and functional, I have the money to enjoy Pattaya today that I wouldn't have had before I finished working. We can't have it all in life and while maybe I wish I had made the jump sooner I am happy to know that 'fun' is ahead for me rather than behind|!
I'm 37. Was in Pattaya last week for a holiday from Aussie. Had the best time of my life. Wont go into detail but the girls are something else. I was with one girl LT 4 nights of the 7 nights I was there (Found via TF). She is 39 but looks 28. Never been treated so well in my life. Like Daz says, don't fall in love!! Cause I cant stop bloody thinking of her. Already planning on next trip for next year. Cant wait to go back. Also to answer Daz's question, don't go before you are 30 or financial stable. The place is designed to squeeze you of all your hard earned cash.
I am now 66 and first visited Pattaya in the 80's in my mid 20's. Thailand opened my eyes and changed my perspective on "involvements" with women back in the west forever. I never married and to this day have Pattaya to thank for it. All young men should visit long before they decide on marriage back home and visit Thailand before it's too late! I keep my holidaying and adventures to myself. Very few people understand why we visit this awesome place. Keep up the good work with your channel. The information and advice you offer is top notch and second to none. Love your work here on this channel! I am back again in October for my 3rd visit this year!
Wow 🤩. Your question at the end of the video blew my mind 🤯. If I’d found Thailand in my 20’s or 30’s, my life would be entirely different today. I would not have kids and most likely not be living here in the USA, dreaming about living in Thailand.
First came here for my 16th birthday with my folks. Now 'retired' here @48 and couldn't be happier. I feel it's the perfect age too. Much earlier and I wouldn't have survived 😂
I have been to Thailand about 15 times. Having viewed ThaiFriendly profiles prior to my upcoming trip to Pattaya; the women in their 30’s and 40’s prefer older guys. Makes sense! Girls in their 20’s go to nightclubs; guys in their 50s to 60s go to beer bars. Being in my 50s; I prefer more mature women; not party girls.
I was 22 first time in Pattaya and found several mature women who wanted to hook up with a younger man never did since I had a girlfriend at the time. But for young man looking to scratch the milf itch it's not a terrible place to go.
@@ExtraGuac007 The more i watch these videos of Thailand the more i realize these woman are skanky af and god only knows how many men they have been with. if i had millions i wouldn't be there!
Off topic - Today, on my very first trip to Pattaya, second day, I went to the Heaven Above and I got blessed with luck. Greg's birthday party, super-crowded, amazing time with a model who got body-painted and came to dance with two other models right in front of me. Did I mention that I got one of the seats in the middle, right in front of the main stage table? What can I say? It seems that the universe was working for me tonight. Soooo much fun! This place is really amazing! And thank you Daz, really! Your videos and the suggestions about Thai culture have been so helpful to me, as I'm sure to many others here on this channel. Especially about the right things to do here. Keep up the good work, mate!
My first visit to Thailand was 50+ years ago as a lad of 21, I was up in Isan and the story is the same even in a little town on the river. I had stumbled into heaven was having the time of my life. I just met one I knew I wanted to spend my life with when I got shipped out and sent to England. That was the only thing that saved me from falling into the trap. Absolutely loved my time there and am considering returning there now but afraid I may have waited to long to return.
I don' think it will spoil anybody, i think i will just open their minds and see how it works. If in the west things don't run good, they at least know there is an alternative. If I knew 30 years ago what I know now, i'd never got married then... you always need to make your own thoughts and experiences. And there is nothing wrong coming to Pattaya and see how life is here , or can be ...
Great video Daz! I think if I would have come to Pattaya in my 20s with the nightlife there, it would have ruined my standards for nightlife anywhere else and I would be desperate to get back to Patts at every opportunity. Now that I'm in my mid50s, nightclubs and gogos don't really appeal to me nor do 20-something party girls. Luckily Pattaya has something for all ages.
Without a doubt, the best way to circumvent the "old guy-young girl" challenge is to stay fit, dress well, and look good. Chances improve (why? you don't look like a tubby old man with a young girl)....also, you'll live longer and enjoy "good times" more.
I'm 26 now and plan on going to Thailand for my 27th birthday, I recently saved near 100K and plan on just leaving at this point. I was stuck for years that I need to be constantly working and not traveling and I should wait until I got older now because the early 20s was the time to go, but I stopped last year and started focusing on my goals, which is how I made over 100K in one year. I will no longer miss out on these experiences. I don't want to regret it anymore.
@@sebontuse4338 It depends since he didn't precise 100k in what currency. If it's in $, £, € , it could take him 3 years or more. Definitely more than three weeks. I think you assume the currency was baht 😂
Pattaya, as far as I know, first became a night life center during the Vietnam War, as it was a place that American servicemen both stationed in bases in Thailand and Americans serving in Vietnam on R & R would go there. It certainly was not on the scale that it is now, but there already was an ex-pat population there, too. I know, because I was there in late 1972 and also 1973. It also was a port of call for the US Navy. So there were plenty of young guys still just eighteen or nineteen getting bar girl exposure there. Indeed, a 22-year-old would be considered an old hand, or at least an older one. I was not in the service, but I was 28 and in a job that had me visiting military bases around Thailand, and believe me, they all had loads of bars and bar girls surrounding the bases. And Bangkok itself was a major R & R center, with a lot of cheap new hotels built to accommodate young servicemen. The big nightlife center then, now 50 years ago, was Patpong Road. Thermae was very popular, too, especially after the bars closed for the night and bar girls descended on it. There may well have been other bar areas serving that trade, but I am not aware of them, as I was only there periodically. There was a large presence of Australians, too, as they served in fairly large numbers in Vietnam, too. Soi Cowboy started up after the war, when a large number of American Vietnam vets moved to Thailand. It got its name from one of the ex-pat American vets who called himself "Cowboy", a very amiable Black guy. Were the patrons and originators of Soi Cowboy irretrievably corrupted by the easy, cheap bar girls of the Far East? Beats me.
I only wish I had discovered Pattaya when I was 22. My life would have been so much better without bothering to have to chase a girls in America that didn’t look half as good as most Thai girls. Wish I could go back in time for sure.
Hey daz , a very thoughtful video buddy, it’s a great topic to discuss ,I first came when I was 35 , bowled over by pattaya ,met a girl in the old bar area near the pinewood hotel on 2 road , I had a relationship for about eight years with her , it was very complicated, happily it didn’t cost to many baht , unfortunately it’s finished now , she was 29, so similar to me , now I am older , I have a relationship with a 40 year old lady who is very ambitious to open a business , but I am now very cautious , thanks my friend for your advice 🙏🙏
I agree with a lot of what you said. At 38 years old I think now is the best time for me to enjoy Thailand. I've been traveling to Pattaya since 2018 but now I think I'm ready for more of a long term or permanent stay there. I'm a good looking guy and in great shape and have done pretty well in the dating scene here in the US. But just like many other men in my position, I'm done with the bad attitude and entitlement of American women and their ever increasing unrealistic standards for men. It's a lot of work for a decreasing ROI. I know what I can get out there in Thailand and other SE Asian countries, so I'll be making a more permanent move next month. Thankfully I've worked hard, saved and invested in order to set myself up financially to make such a move. I'm sure it will be worth it.
De klootzak heeft mijn reactie verwijderd omdat ik het waagde de werkelijkheid te benoemen. Droom lekker door verliezers. De Thaise hoeren zijn duurder dan in Europa en de bier bar dames zijn zelden onder de 40 jaar, vet en stront lelijk. De Go Go meisjes zijn ook zelden knap. De knappe zie je op BKK Airport, in de shops!
Discovered Pattaya at 21 mate , 39 now. Have had plenty of relationships but never married and no kids. Moving to south east asia (probably philippines) from Scotland in near future. Plan to do trips from there to patts and back. Make money from online poker and live poker in manila vs the Chinese very profitable. But yes yellow fever changed my view on western woman from a young age. Got a few beautiful pinays lined up but also love thai girls! Great channel keep up the good work mate!
a great analogy/comparison to the '80's Daz. I actually think it is a good thing that young men are going to Patt to see there are other options besides the ladies they meet in the west. certainly women always have chosen the best men they can find, no reason men shouldn't do the same. go where you are wanted, appreciated and respected.
I was 25 when I first came to Pattaya in 1996 and it changed me. Going forward I married a Thai girl in 2002 we still together now with 2 grownup kids. I'm coming back to pattaya next week at the age of 52 and I'll be looking for a 20ish year old if I can get one.
Young or old as long as you have money. I would say reasons you see more young guys. 1 Information is easier because of internet. 2. Travel is easier more flights and you don’t have to go to travel agent 3. Younger guys are a little more affluent especially western guys because families are having only one or two children instead of four to six.
We are living in the age of remote work & thats going to grow. Young men are going to be the majority out there in the coming years honestly brother. It’s definitely a growing trend. At the moment we’re in a lull of that trend because the economy put the ball back in the employers court. But, that trend will come back. Companies will compete on how much geographical freedom they give.
I'll be 64 in November but I also visit Hua Hin, Bangkok, and my favorite- Jomtien. I'll be moving there. Very few ppl in Pattaya guess I'm 63 (most think 42). But once I move to Thailand, Pattaya will only be f/ visits. I don't drink, so bars aren't an issue. Fun town though
Great video, I first came to Pattaya at 25 years old with much older men from my golf club and I’ve never been able to have a western relationship, October will be my 28th trip all 3 to 4 weeks long lol
I didn't discover Thailand and the Philippines until ii was 30. If i were to have been exposed to them at the age of say 20-22 I would have known what was possible for my future and I would have started saving and planning on quitting the RAT RACE a lot sooner. When i discovered SEA at 30 I immediately started maxing savings and retirement accounts and investments and stopped wasting money on silly things as I want to be fully retired by 50 living in SEA for the remaining 40'ish years after.
What a great video, thank you. If i had come to Pattaya in my 20s i would be dead by now because i would have lost touch with reality much like the 20 year old girls that go to work in Pattaya from Issan ( Im in my 70s and i am living in Thailand now for 4 years) so much of what you said in your video is true) I tell people so many times thst Pattaya is not Thailand.
As you say, it all comes down to money. If you're aged, can you afford health and personal care? If you're young can you afford the lifestyle? Running away from the west is absolutly understandable, it's dying. But, if the west is the source of your money, then so too is the hope of escaping and being able to stay in Thailand. We're at a point in time where a lot of dreams will be dashed.
Hey Daz. I have a friend who visited Pattaya in his twenties and is now 48 and has been married for 18 years. Throughout his life, the call of Pattaya has been a constant obsession in his mind. He feels miserable with his wife and plans on retiring there when his youngest daughter grows up. The point you bring up about young people and Pattaya is interesting. I imagine many young guys will experience this after visiting.
Great video. Lots of informative and wise information as always.Much appreciate . On my way back to Pattaya for couple of weeks from Europe then return to set up retirement visa next low season .
I'm almost 60 Y.O and Daz was saying half my age + 7 years? that's 37 years old lady. No way, That's why I'm in The Philippines with a 24 years old girlfriend. These are a lot cheaper if you're going to retire and live a decent life. Thailand average people makes almost double (7000 USD per year) than The Philippines average income (3700 USD per year). That's why it's cheaper to find a younger GF here in P.I and it doesn't cost so much as in Thailand.
34 now but started doing this when i was 24. I openly state i am incapable of doing committed relationships, ive tried it before and it doesn't work. But im very happy.
Great video Daz and a very interesting topic My opinion is no younger guys shouldn’t come to Pattaya ,they’re just not ready and don’t have the life experience to handle it . Pattaya changes people young and old and definitely not always for the better . Not to mention the abundance of master manipulators around only a seasoned man knows how to handle. It just doesn’t end well from what I’ve observed.
Been comeing to pattaya sins 2004 september, so next year will be 20 years. About 3 to 4 times pr year. And still haveing a blast everytime. It ditten screw up my head in any way. It only made my life that much more fun, and gave me a "Goal" to save up money for the next trip at a young age :)
I think that the best age to move to Thailand is the age when you have financial security. When you can afford a sustainable and enjoyable life in Thailand. I don't think that its too difficult to find whatever age group that you prefer in women. Especially if you prefer short term relationships.
Very entertaining and interesting Content as always Mate..! In my opinion Pattaya is such a Addictive Place..! Like you mentioned DAZ is the Simplicity of daily life plus the fact that you will never feel alone. Whatever is your age range there’s plenty options available for your pleasure . Personally I’m just love ❤️ Pattaya because when you out there it feels like you’re in a bubble and all your problems and worries gone away. I will definitely consider myself Pattaya as a Retired destination in the near future. Thanks again DAZ for your Vlogs and always keep safe Mate.
For guys over 50, who are single, Thailand seems to be a good option. Based everything I have seen online; a single retired guy can live pretty good on $2,000 per month. That amount of money is not enough to even get by in many parts of the United States. You may want to leave options open to return to the US in later years for medical reasons and to use Medicare. I would have an exit strategy and money put aside to return to the US. I think the biggest issue would be men of all ages trying to move to Thailand without sufficient money. Besides a steady income of $2,500 per month, ($500) for savings. A man from the US really needs from $50,000 to $100,000 in the bank. Mostly to be able to exit Thailand and reestablish himself back in the US if needed. Broke men with very limited resources should not even consider this move.
What a smart talk, Daz. Ah, the power of expectations and how environment influences said expectations. Methinks that so long as the hypothetical 22 year-old doesn't get roped into a trip to the village, the young man would living a heck of a good time.
Went to Thailand for the first time when is was 21 (to Koh Samui) and to Pattaya when i was 27. It did corrupt me a little but in a good way in my opinion. Because i realised how bad of a deal western women are. Next year want to check out the Phillipines to see what they got there.
I think I would be dead if I went to Pattaya in my 20s but I went to Costa rica instead and I nearly died. Im happy to say Im in my mid 30s now and I have alot of experience in the Eastern bloc and Im very happy to say I never went down that same dark path when I was in my 20s.
Pattaya back in my youth (mid-1980s when I was mid-20s) was nearly all fairly young people, mainly expats from within Asia and visitors from northern Europe. The girls were also all young, not fat, fun to be around and not expensive to maintain. It was a fun, relaxing place to be; it's just highly commercialized now; still fun but not quite the same.
The small bar you pass on Lengkee with the blue lights (Hug Me Guesthouse) has some friendly girls and beers priced at 60 baht all night. Not very well known. Hunger Pangs is next door if you fancy a bite.
Nice walkabout Daz good to see Soi Boomerang & Soi Pothole, when I first travelled to Thailand in the early 90's it was full of older guys, no Chinese tour groups or Indians. It was very rare to see younger guys in the bar areas they all made their way to the backpacker areas.
Yes great advice and information again Daz. I first went to Pattaya when I was 25 and have continued to go there for the last 40 years. Also my budget is simple, beers, bars, great food and no LT or ST as my Thai Mrs would probably surgically remove something from me 🙂
im 33 an i came a year ago, loved it, coming back this year, i work long hours as a chef have no time for a family, beaning a chef. a vacation every year here to enjoy those male needs has been good for me. but the little voice in my head always has to remind me, its a business. and they are giving me the girlfriend experience. good enough for me.
I first visited Pattaya when I was 55, to be honest I felt overwhelmed with the whole scene, I’ve been back a couple more times and can confirm that I don’t want to be there for any great length of time, now I use it as a starting point for any travels I have planned, now 62 years young and finding company isn’t difficult though I never take the girls travelling with me.
Your story made me laugh (video 10:19min) !!! I once fell down the stairs in Sapphire Agogo and had my back badly bruised. So I know what it's like to be in Pattaya and not being able to booom-booom for many days 😞
Hi Daz, Thanks for this informative video. Your video always makes me think. I remember I was in London when I was 22. I had a great time with English and Dutch and German girls. I never thought of going to Asia. Now after watching your video I think yes, if I was in Pattaya in that age I probably never touch any women because I was thinking about love and long term relationship. I never thought to pay money for short or long term. Pattaya would have messed up my mind.
Came to Thailand for the first time in 2002 , when I was 35 and have never really gone any where else , besides a week for a golf trip to Portugal, for the first few years I would come twice a year 😂now only once a year usually for 25 to 29 days , booked for high season for 28 days this year 😃👍
Good advice about insurance. I am 67 now but I initially bought my Thai insurance at 62. I have a 10 million baht policy with a 40,000 baht deductible. That keeps the price down. I would say I have a combination of self insurance and catastrophic insurance. It is pretty reasonable by US standards. Anyone from a country with national health care may have a different view.
I first visited Pattaya in 1998 when I was 25 and had the time of my life, coming back in April for songkran, it’s my first visit back and I can’t wait, watching your videos it’s amazing how much Pattaya has changed, I’m sure it wasn’t as big back then
You do understand that in Songkran many girls go home to Isaan and also many girls don't work because of the water being thrown day AND Night these days. Many guys consider Songkran to be the worst week in the year. Just to put you in the picture.
Yes, it screws you up. I turned 19 through 23 years old in Japan. Then, 24 to 26 in the Phillipines, then 27 to 30 years old in Guam ! You get spoiled and traditional Western style relationships aren't to apealing to you.
I was 27 when I first came to Pattaya in 1987, wasn't corrupt ed as never popular with the girls back home. Now 63 can still have ST with a pretty 20 year old bar girl on Pothole and Soi 6. Last Lt was 30 years old very nice. No Go Go Bars last time, maybe as a special treat next time once during holiday. Gents clubs are good, had my first experience there last trip, following your advice.
I have learned the hard way that marriage in the west is like signing up for a prison sentence. Even if you escape the lawyers come after you. Marriage is a dead institution all around the world. Most children born in the west are not from married couples. The new generation wants nothing to do with marriage. They see it for what it is. My generation still clinged to marriage because they came right after the war generation. Someone in their twenties will see a different type of bubble. Some love the thai way and stay for as long as they can afford it. Others just shake their heads and are gone. I would have loved the sex, but it does cost money. It is a good thing to see more natural human behavior versus the lies of western culture. We see it in the birth rates around the world. Developed countries will probably have their populations collapse over the next 40 years unless something quite radical is done. Thanks for the video. Enjoy your time in the sun, or rain at this time.
I first came in 2011 as a 30 year old and it did change my life. I’ve been each year since except the covid years. I’m attracted to all nationalities and have had experiences with many during the years here in Pattaya, not just Thais. Walking St gogos is a shitshow now, last march I was asked where I came from before entering one…. not sure why ?? It was first time ever I have been asked this question.
This was one of your most informative videos. I much prefer this solo format than when you bring in an "expert" who is not really an expert. I am moving back to Pattaya. The one big issue, of course, is health insurance as mentioned. However, that can be taken care of and the higher cost is more than compensated by the lower costs elsewhere. If I decide that I want a "steady" girlfriend (which is what the Thai girls want), your 1/2 plus 7 formula works; however, if I focus on ST, it is entirely a private monetary transaction and the girls don't seem to care so long as they get their fee and I perform. That last point is really important! The girls will get upset if I don't perform. But, there is a partial solution (not 100%) and that is, if you are older (like me) only choose girls that really turn you on so that there is stimulation. Don't get bored; which easily happens. The younger girls are not as experienced as the older girls. So, a combination of good looks and really good experienced performance is worthwhile. And where? Gents Clubs generally and well selected beer bars / restaurants. Oh yes; you have to try Kink and Windmill at least once. But, the girls are so young, inexperienced and self conscious about being with a man as old as their grandfathers. Be smart and you (I) will have a great time.
Definitely watching made me rethink going back to Thailand!..I am 62 and prefer younger women for fun. But if they lose face being seen with me it may be time to halt my visits.
I met my Thai wife when I was 43 and she was 18. We got married 5 years later. We just celebrated out 25th anniversary.
In regard to younger guys. Honestly, there's nothing left to ruin. A significant portion of young men (30% I believe) are having no luck whatsoever in dating or hook-ups. For those lads, it's a choice between becoming a monk and looking elsewhere.
It's more then 30% if your looking at gen z I know plenty of younger guys who are successful & still can't pull its honestly sad but hey go where your appreciated.
Yes, don’t blame those guys who struggle in the west that decide to try their luck elsewhere. Why wouldn’t they?
I first visited Thailand as a 21 year old just out of his first long term relationship. First night in the bars of Bangkok was an eye opener to say the least! Ended up very drunk, down a lot of baht, and with a gang of four or five gorgeous bar girls in a small apartment they shared. Incredible night…
That visit didn’t really change my idea of relationships or expectations of western women, just showed me something better. It certainly changed my life by showing me paradise was real, and remarkably affordable.
First time I went to Thailand I was 24 and that was in 1984 and have been going there ever since. There is no to old or to young just enjoy your self
Basically everything right, Daz. For older men like me at 63 there is definitely the chance to date much younger and very beautiful women in Pattaya. 2 weeks ago I met women for LT at 24 yo. and for ST at 21 yo. and I only paid local rates.
What I regret is that I discovered Pattaya way too late. If I had been there for the first time 35 years ago, I would have been spared a lot of stress and a number of pointless and expensive relationships in the West. Pattaya opened my eyes to the truth about the relationship between man and woman.
But you would have got sick of it by now, maybe.
@@user-sw2lv3zp6o Who knows? Or perhaps broke...
How hiring service providers for LT and ST did open your eyes to the truth of a normal relationship between a man and woman?
Hiring service providers doesn't equate to dating them 😊
Interesting point of view.
I am 78 and just got back from pattaya, with my 21 year old grandson! We both had a great time!
The west is dead Daz …. Once the young lads get a taste of Pattaya there is no going back after that ….. they already see how doomed relationships / marriages are in the west so when they hit Pattaya for the first time it’s game over imo …… keep me the great context Daz always a pleasure 👍
True first time in Pattaya last year I’m already booked up for this November
Took the words right out of my mouth.
After my ex cheated and got away with the house I spend 3 years rebuilding myself. I tried dating various girls only to be dissapointed. I rather just stay alone and go to thailand 6 weeks a year. I'm financially stable enough to enjoy myself here.
Very informative video. Thank you! I’m 59, but my preferred age is around 23.
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still fresh 😀
No problem. Just bring $$$ 😁
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If you are fit and healthy , have the right mindset & discipline with regards money and temptations, it don’t matter too much 😊
I was too busy doing the marriage and family thing as a younger man which as we all know eventually disintegrates into emptiness in many cases. 70 years now, pretty fit and functional, I have the money to enjoy Pattaya today that I wouldn't have had before I finished working. We can't have it all in life and while maybe I wish I had made the jump sooner I am happy to know that 'fun' is ahead for me rather than behind|!
Are you thinking of living there full time
Not sure yet. Will have 3 months from next Jan 12 and see how it goes.@@joelkipling2587
Yes, it changed my life, i went to pattaya 3 times at the age of 20 and 21 in 1985 and can never erase it from my mind,
I am 48 as per documents , but ...but I am stuck at 20-21.... mentally doing same naughty things... coming to Pattaya on 21 till 31 August 2023.
I'm 37. Was in Pattaya last week for a holiday from Aussie. Had the best time of my life. Wont go into detail but the girls are something else. I was with one girl LT 4 nights of the 7 nights I was there (Found via TF). She is 39 but looks 28. Never been treated so well in my life. Like Daz says, don't fall in love!! Cause I cant stop bloody thinking of her. Already planning on next trip for next year. Cant wait to go back. Also to answer Daz's question, don't go before you are 30 or financial stable. The place is designed to squeeze you of all your hard earned cash.
I am now 66 and first visited Pattaya in the 80's in my mid 20's. Thailand opened my eyes and changed my perspective on "involvements" with women back in the west forever. I never married and to this day have Pattaya to thank for it. All young men should visit long before they decide on marriage back home and visit Thailand before it's too late! I keep my holidaying and adventures to myself. Very few people understand why we visit this awesome place. Keep up the good work with your channel. The information and advice you offer is top notch and second to none. Love your work here on this channel! I am back again in October for my 3rd visit this year!
Thank you very much for your input
Wow 🤩. Your question at the end of the video blew my mind 🤯. If I’d found Thailand in my 20’s or 30’s, my life would be entirely different today. I would not have kids and most likely not be living here in the USA, dreaming about living in Thailand.
First came here for my 16th birthday with my folks. Now 'retired' here @48 and couldn't be happier. I feel it's the perfect age too. Much earlier and I wouldn't have survived 😂
I have been to Thailand about 15 times. Having viewed ThaiFriendly profiles prior to my upcoming trip to Pattaya; the women in their 30’s and 40’s prefer older guys. Makes sense! Girls in their 20’s go to nightclubs; guys in their 50s to 60s go to beer bars. Being in my 50s; I prefer more mature women; not party girls.
& some of us go to fitness/gyms places ...........................
I don't get it. Why do Millionaires fly over 8K miles to date Leftover Women?
I was 22 first time in Pattaya and found several mature women who wanted to hook up with a younger man never did since I had a girlfriend at the time.
But for young man looking to scratch the milf itch it's not a terrible place to go.
@@ExtraGuac007 The more i watch these videos of Thailand the more i realize these woman are skanky af and god only knows how many men they have been with. if i had millions i wouldn't be there!
@@ExtraGuac007Best to go for the younger new models smaller body count.....Bargirls over 30 don't look fresh to me...
Pharmacies , doctors , dentists , hospitals all are very good 😊
My Dear mum who I lost recently had dementia her carehome cost's were £6000 a month, Sound's unbelievable but that was the price in the UK.
Prayers to you and family losing your mum
Off topic - Today, on my very first trip to Pattaya, second day, I went to the Heaven Above and I got blessed with luck. Greg's birthday party, super-crowded, amazing time with a model who got body-painted and came to dance with two other models right in front of me. Did I mention that I got one of the seats in the middle, right in front of the main stage table? What can I say? It seems that the universe was working for me tonight. Soooo much fun! This place is really amazing! And thank you Daz, really! Your videos and the suggestions about Thai culture have been so helpful to me, as I'm sure to many others here on this channel. Especially about the right things to do here. Keep up the good work, mate!
My first visit to Thailand was 50+ years ago as a lad of 21, I was up in Isan and the story is the same even in a little town on the river. I had stumbled into heaven was having the time of my life. I just met one I knew I wanted to spend my life with when I got shipped out and sent to England. That was the only thing that saved me from falling into the trap. Absolutely loved my time there and am considering returning there now but afraid I may have waited to long to return.
Go on and do it Phillip, enjoy your life my friend.
You ain't old.
It's not too late! I am 78 and just returned from pattaya with my 21 year old grandson. Best time of my life!
I don' think it will spoil anybody, i think i will just open their minds and see how it works. If in the west things don't run good, they at least know there is an alternative. If I knew 30 years ago what I know now, i'd never got married then... you always need to make your own thoughts and experiences. And there is nothing wrong coming to Pattaya and see how life is here , or can be ...
Great video Daz! I think if I would have come to Pattaya in my 20s with the nightlife there, it would have ruined my standards for nightlife anywhere else and I would be desperate to get back to Patts at every opportunity. Now that I'm in my mid50s, nightclubs and gogos don't really appeal to me nor do 20-something party girls. Luckily Pattaya has something for all ages.
Spot on mate.
Tru dat
Without a doubt, the best way to circumvent the "old guy-young girl" challenge is to stay fit, dress well, and look good. Chances improve (why? you don't look like a tubby old man with a young girl)....also, you'll live longer and enjoy "good times" more.
I'm 26 now and plan on going to Thailand for my 27th birthday, I recently saved near 100K and plan on just leaving at this point.
I was stuck for years that I need to be constantly working and not traveling and I should wait until I got older now because the early 20s was the time to go, but I stopped last year and started focusing on my goals, which is how I made over 100K in one year.
I will no longer miss out on these experiences. I don't want to regret it anymore.
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100K USD, not baht. 100K will last longer than 3 weeks.
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It depends since he didn't precise 100k in what currency. If it's in $, £, € , it could take him 3 years or more. Definitely more than three weeks. I think you assume the currency was baht 😂
100k thb or USD?
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100k USD.
Pattaya, as far as I know, first became a night life center during the Vietnam War, as it was a place that American servicemen both stationed in bases in Thailand and Americans serving in Vietnam on R & R would go there. It certainly was not on the scale that it is now, but there already was an ex-pat population there, too. I know, because I was there in late 1972 and also 1973. It also was a port of call for the US Navy. So there were plenty of young guys still just eighteen or nineteen getting bar girl exposure there. Indeed, a 22-year-old would be considered an old hand, or at least an older one. I was not in the service, but I was 28 and in a job that had me visiting military bases around Thailand, and believe me, they all had loads of bars and bar girls surrounding the bases. And Bangkok itself was a major R & R center, with a lot of cheap new hotels built to accommodate young servicemen. The big nightlife center then, now 50 years ago, was Patpong Road. Thermae was very popular, too, especially after the bars closed for the night and bar girls descended on it. There may well have been other bar areas serving that trade, but I am not aware of them, as I was only there periodically. There was a large presence of Australians, too, as they served in fairly large numbers in Vietnam, too. Soi Cowboy started up after the war, when a large number of American Vietnam vets moved to Thailand. It got its name from one of the ex-pat American vets who called himself "Cowboy", a very amiable Black guy. Were the patrons and originators of Soi Cowboy irretrievably corrupted by the easy, cheap bar girls of the Far East? Beats me.
Interesting post.
I almost 60 I think a GF for a 60 years should be 35 ST ok 20,s I alway like beer bars i like soi post office soi Yamamoto soi 6 7 8
I am happy to be ok old navy salt. Coming back to Pattaya my first time since my navy 7th fleet days 80s
I am hoping to hit it off with couple of farm ladies young ladies to be my ladies maybe if they into me
The 3' ladies I am hoping to hook up with are now in low 20s early30sif they accept me being ok older man
I only wish I had discovered Pattaya when I was 22. My life would have been so much better without bothering to have to chase a girls in America that didn’t look half as good as most Thai girls. Wish I could go back in time for sure.
Hey daz , a very thoughtful video buddy, it’s a great topic to discuss ,I first came when I was 35 , bowled over by pattaya ,met a girl in the old bar area near the pinewood hotel on 2 road , I had a relationship for about eight years with her , it was very complicated, happily it didn’t cost to many baht , unfortunately it’s finished now , she was 29, so similar to me , now I am older , I have a relationship with a 40 year old lady who is very ambitious to open a business , but I am now very cautious , thanks my friend for your advice 🙏🙏
I agree with a lot of what you said. At 38 years old I think now is the best time for me to enjoy Thailand. I've been traveling to Pattaya since 2018 but now I think I'm ready for more of a long term or permanent stay there. I'm a good looking guy and in great shape and have done pretty well in the dating scene here in the US. But just like many other men in my position, I'm done with the bad attitude and entitlement of American women and their ever increasing unrealistic standards for men. It's a lot of work for a decreasing ROI. I know what I can get out there in Thailand and other SE Asian countries, so I'll be making a more permanent move next month. Thankfully I've worked hard, saved and invested in order to set myself up financially to make such a move. I'm sure it will be worth it.
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De klootzak heeft mijn reactie verwijderd omdat ik het waagde de werkelijkheid te benoemen. Droom lekker door verliezers. De Thaise hoeren zijn duurder dan in Europa en de bier bar dames zijn zelden onder de 40 jaar, vet en stront lelijk. De Go Go meisjes zijn ook zelden knap. De knappe zie je op BKK Airport, in de shops!
Discovered Pattaya at 21 mate , 39 now. Have had plenty of relationships but never married and no kids. Moving to south east asia (probably philippines) from Scotland in near future. Plan to do trips from there to patts and back. Make money from online poker and live poker in manila vs the Chinese very profitable. But yes yellow fever changed my view on western woman from a young age. Got a few beautiful pinays lined up but also love thai girls! Great channel keep up the good work mate!
a great analogy/comparison to the '80's Daz. I actually think it is a good thing that young men are going to Patt to see there are other options besides the ladies they meet in the west. certainly women always have chosen the best men they can find, no reason men shouldn't do the same. go where you are wanted, appreciated and respected.
I was 25 when I first came to Pattaya in 1996 and it changed me. Going forward I married a Thai girl in 2002 we still together now with 2 grownup kids. I'm coming back to pattaya next week at the age of 52 and I'll be looking for a 20ish year old if I can get one.
Young or old as long as you have money. I would say reasons you see more young guys. 1 Information is easier because of internet. 2. Travel is easier more flights and you don’t have to go to travel agent 3. Younger guys are a little more affluent especially western guys because families are having only one or two children instead of four to six.
Most younger guys (the smart ones) aren’t getting married or having kids. Freedom trumps everything …
We are living in the age of remote work & thats going to grow. Young men are going to be the majority out there in the coming years honestly brother. It’s definitely a growing trend. At the moment we’re in a lull of that trend because the economy put the ball back in the employers court. But, that trend will come back. Companies will compete on how much geographical freedom they give.
My favorite Pattaya vlogger delivers once again! Thanks buddy 👍
So nice of you
I'll be 64 in November but I also visit Hua Hin, Bangkok, and my favorite- Jomtien. I'll be moving there. Very few ppl in Pattaya guess I'm 63 (most think 42). But once I move to Thailand, Pattaya will only be f/ visits. I don't drink, so bars aren't an issue. Fun town though
27, ex military, living in Manila, Philippines getting a pension, will visit Pattaya soon!
Great video, I first came to Pattaya at 25 years old with much older men from my golf club and I’ve never been able to have a western relationship, October will be my 28th trip all 3 to 4 weeks long lol
My friend... If we could travel in time... I would advice 20 year old me to go straight to Thailand and stay there...
I didn't discover Thailand and the Philippines until ii was 30. If i were to have been exposed to them at the age of say 20-22 I would have known what was possible for my future and I would have started saving and planning on quitting the RAT RACE a lot sooner. When i discovered SEA at 30 I immediately started maxing savings and retirement accounts and investments and stopped wasting money on silly things as I want to be fully retired by 50 living in SEA for the remaining 40'ish years after.
What a great video, thank you. If i had come to Pattaya in my 20s i would be dead by now because i would have lost touch with reality much like the 20 year old girls that go to work in Pattaya from Issan ( Im in my 70s and i am living in Thailand now for 4 years) so much of what you said in your video is true) I tell people so many times thst Pattaya is not Thailand.
I'm in my 70's also, did you consider living in any other places?
Love Thai pharmacist, easy (& legal) access to gym supplements, many great gyms in Pattaya ................
As you say, it all comes down to money.
If you're aged, can you afford health and personal care? If you're young can you afford the lifestyle?
Running away from the west is absolutly understandable, it's dying.
But, if the west is the source of your money, then so too is the hope of escaping and being able to stay in Thailand.
We're at a point in time where a lot of dreams will be dashed.
Hey Daz. I have a friend who visited Pattaya in his twenties and is now 48 and has been married for 18 years. Throughout his life, the call of Pattaya has been a constant obsession in his mind. He feels miserable with his wife and plans on retiring there when his youngest daughter grows up. The point you bring up about young people and Pattaya is interesting. I imagine many young guys will experience this after visiting.
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I heard it was about heroin but it could be applied to anything addictive.
Mobile phones have ruined people, makes them look very ignorant nowadays! We had the best times in our day for sure!
Great video. Lots of informative and wise information as always.Much appreciate . On my way back to Pattaya for couple of weeks from Europe then return to set up retirement visa next low season .
I'm almost 60 Y.O and Daz was saying half my age + 7 years? that's 37 years old lady. No way, That's why I'm in The Philippines with a 24 years old girlfriend. These are a lot cheaper if you're going to retire and live a decent life. Thailand average people makes almost double (7000 USD per year) than The Philippines average income (3700 USD per year). That's why it's cheaper to find a younger GF here in P.I and it doesn't cost so much as in Thailand.
Thank you on another great vid!
Great information. Thank you!
An excellent summary. You nailed it exactly how I see it.
34 now but started doing this when i was 24. I openly state i am incapable of doing committed relationships, ive tried it before and it doesn't work. But im very happy.
Important questions! Great work.
Thanks for another great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very good video. The gentleman is putting out some great gems, absolutely great gems that I didn't know and needed to know.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video Daz and a very interesting topic My opinion is no younger guys shouldn’t come to Pattaya ,they’re just not ready and don’t have the life experience to handle it . Pattaya changes people young and old and definitely not always for the better . Not to mention the abundance of master manipulators around only a seasoned man knows how to handle. It just doesn’t end well from what I’ve observed.
Great tips thanks!
Been comeing to pattaya sins 2004 september, so next year will be 20 years. About 3 to 4 times pr year. And still haveing a blast everytime. It ditten screw up my head in any way. It only made my life that much more fun, and gave me a "Goal" to save up money for the next trip at a young age :)
Hola Daz! Gracias for the video and for the great story .555
I think that the best age to move to Thailand is the age when you have financial security.
When you can afford a sustainable and enjoyable life in Thailand.
I don't think that its too difficult to find whatever age group that you prefer in women.
Especially if you prefer short term relationships.
Congratulation for 75000 subscribers. After watching your first videos I knew your channel will be a great success. Please go on and on
Thank you so much
Great videos mate. Very informative and I love your stories. Great work
Very entertaining and interesting Content as always Mate..! In my opinion Pattaya is such a Addictive Place..! Like you mentioned DAZ is the Simplicity of daily life plus the fact that you will never feel alone. Whatever is your age range there’s plenty options available for your pleasure . Personally I’m just love ❤️ Pattaya because when you out there it feels like you’re in a bubble and all your problems and worries gone away. I will definitely consider myself Pattaya as a Retired destination in the near future. Thanks again DAZ for your Vlogs and always keep safe Mate.
Thanks for your input
wow you are spot on in every detail
Great video 😊
For guys over 50, who are single, Thailand seems to be a good option. Based everything I have seen online; a single retired guy can live pretty good on $2,000 per month. That amount of money is not enough to even get by in many parts of the United States. You may want to leave options open to return to the US in later years for medical reasons and to use Medicare. I would have an exit strategy and money put aside to return to the US. I think the biggest issue would be men of all ages trying to move to Thailand without sufficient money. Besides a steady income of $2,500 per month, ($500) for savings. A man from the US really needs from $50,000 to $100,000 in the bank. Mostly to be able to exit Thailand and reestablish himself back in the US if needed. Broke men with very limited resources should not even consider this move.
$2K a month in Thailand is more than enough
I totally agree with your comments about Soi 6 and gogo bars
What a smart talk, Daz. Ah, the power of expectations and how environment influences said expectations. Methinks that so long as the hypothetical 22 year-old doesn't get roped into a trip to the village, the young man would living a heck of a good time.
I went to Thailand at 44. Loved it
Thanks Daz!
Went to Thailand for the first time when is was 21 (to Koh Samui) and to Pattaya when i was 27. It did corrupt me a little but in a good way in my opinion. Because i realised how bad of a deal western women are. Next year want to check out the Phillipines to see what they got there.
I think I would be dead if I went to Pattaya in my 20s but I went to Costa rica instead and I nearly died. Im happy to say Im in my mid 30s now and I have alot of experience in the Eastern bloc and Im very happy to say I never went down that same dark path when I was in my 20s.
Pattaya back in my youth (mid-1980s when I was mid-20s) was nearly all fairly young people, mainly expats from within Asia and visitors from northern Europe. The girls were also all young, not fat, fun to be around and not expensive to maintain. It was a fun, relaxing place to be; it's just highly commercialized now; still fun but not quite the same.
Very good. thx
I discovered Pattaya too young and now I can’t get married. The effect is long lasting and forever
Rest assured men over 60, everything is soluble in money, even age...
Great vlog, Daz... so true
The small bar you pass on Lengkee with the blue lights (Hug Me Guesthouse) has some friendly girls and beers priced at 60 baht all night. Not very well known. Hunger Pangs is next door if you fancy a bite.
Being single and free, is the life for me these days. 55yrs old.
Nice walkabout Daz good to see Soi Boomerang & Soi Pothole, when I first travelled to Thailand in the early 90's it was full of older guys, no Chinese tour groups or Indians. It was very rare to see younger guys in the bar areas they all made their way to the backpacker areas.
Your best video so far. Liked your age comparables
Wow, thanks!
Great story about mike
Excellent all around
Yes great advice and information again Daz. I first went to Pattaya when I was 25 and have continued to go there for the last 40 years. Also my budget is simple, beers, bars, great food and no LT or ST as my Thai Mrs would probably surgically remove something from me 🙂
im 33 an i came a year ago, loved it, coming back this year, i work long hours as a chef have no time for a family, beaning a chef. a vacation every year here to enjoy those male needs has been good for me. but the little voice in my head always has to remind me, its a business. and they are giving me the girlfriend experience. good enough for me.
I first visited Pattaya when I was 55, to be honest I felt overwhelmed with the whole scene, I’ve been back a couple more times and can confirm that I don’t want to be there for any great length of time, now I use it as a starting point for any travels I have planned, now 62 years young and finding company isn’t difficult though I never take the girls travelling with me.
Your story made me laugh (video 10:19min) !!! I once fell down the stairs in Sapphire Agogo and had my back badly bruised. So I know what it's like to be in Pattaya and not being able to booom-booom for many days 😞
Hi Daz,
Thanks for this informative video. Your video always makes me think. I remember I was in London when I was 22. I had a great time with English and Dutch and German girls. I never thought of going to Asia. Now after watching your video I think yes, if I was in Pattaya in that age I probably never touch any women because I was thinking about love and long term relationship. I never thought to pay money for short or long term. Pattaya would have messed up my mind.
Came to Thailand for the first time in 2002 , when I was 35 and have never really gone any where else , besides a week for a golf trip to Portugal, for the first few years I would come twice a year 😂now only once a year usually for 25 to 29 days , booked for high season for 28 days this year 😃👍
Good advice about insurance. I am 67 now but I initially bought my Thai insurance at 62. I have a 10 million baht policy with a 40,000 baht deductible. That keeps the price down. I would say I have a combination of self insurance and catastrophic insurance. It is pretty reasonable by US standards. Anyone from a country with national health care may have a different view.
I first visited Pattaya in 1998 when I was 25 and had the time of my life, coming back in April for songkran, it’s my first visit back and I can’t wait, watching your videos it’s amazing how much Pattaya has changed, I’m sure it wasn’t as big back then
You do understand that in Songkran many girls go home to Isaan and also many girls don't work because of the water being thrown day AND Night these days.
Many guys consider Songkran to be the worst week in the year. Just to put you in the picture.
@@everythingPattaya didn’t know that … thanks for the info
Bang on Daz about the age thing & yes cash will always be king 😎😎…back in September 3 times this year…😇😇
Yes, it screws you up. I turned 19 through 23 years old in Japan. Then, 24 to 26 in the Phillipines, then 27 to 30 years old in Guam ! You get spoiled and traditional Western style relationships aren't to apealing to you.
I was 27 when I first came to Pattaya in 1987, wasn't corrupt ed as never popular with the girls back home. Now 63 can still have ST with a pretty 20 year old bar girl on Pothole and Soi 6. Last Lt was 30 years old very nice. No Go Go Bars last time, maybe as a special treat next time once during holiday. Gents clubs are good, had my first experience there last trip, following your advice.
The uncut soi 6 videos on Patreon are Great
I have learned the hard way that marriage in the west is like signing up for a prison sentence. Even if you escape the lawyers come after you. Marriage is a dead institution all around the world. Most children born in the west are not from married couples. The new generation wants nothing to do with marriage. They see it for what it is. My generation still clinged to marriage because they came right after the war generation. Someone in their twenties will see a different type of bubble. Some love the thai way and stay for as long as they can afford it. Others just shake their heads and are gone. I would have loved the sex, but it does cost money. It is a good thing to see more natural human behavior versus the lies of western culture. We see it in the birth rates around the world. Developed countries will probably have their populations collapse over the next 40 years unless something quite radical is done. Thanks for the video. Enjoy your time in the sun, or rain at this time.
I first came in 2011 as a 30 year old and it did change my life. I’ve been each year since except the covid years. I’m attracted to all nationalities and have had experiences with many during the years here in Pattaya, not just Thais. Walking St gogos is a shitshow now, last march I was asked where I came from before entering one…. not sure why ?? It was first time ever I have been asked this question.
This was one of your most informative videos. I much prefer this solo format than when you bring in an "expert" who is not really an expert. I am moving back to Pattaya. The one big issue, of course, is health insurance as mentioned. However, that can be taken care of and the higher cost is more than compensated by the lower costs elsewhere. If I decide that I want a "steady" girlfriend (which is what the Thai girls want), your 1/2 plus 7 formula works; however, if I focus on ST, it is entirely a private monetary transaction and the girls don't seem to care so long as they get their fee and I perform. That last point is really important! The girls will get upset if I don't perform. But, there is a partial solution (not 100%) and that is, if you are older (like me) only choose girls that really turn you on so that there is stimulation. Don't get bored; which easily happens. The younger girls are not as experienced as the older girls. So, a combination of good looks and really good experienced performance is worthwhile. And where? Gents Clubs generally and well selected beer bars / restaurants. Oh yes; you have to try Kink and Windmill at least once. But, the girls are so young, inexperienced and self conscious about being with a man as old as their grandfathers. Be smart and you (I) will have a great time.
Definitely watching made me rethink going back to Thailand!..I am 62 and prefer younger women for fun. But if they lose face being seen with me it may be time to halt my visits.
I first visited pattaya in 2006, I was 26 year old, many younger lads have always visited.
We want more looking! lol....great video.
Used to stay in Trafalgar rooms above LaPoste.....never any cruisers, only tugs😊