The DEADLY DESIGN of Civil War Bullets | American Artifact Episode 24

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  • @TheHistoryUnderground
    @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    If you've watched a few episodes and feel like I've earned it, be sure to subscribe so that you don't miss any new content when it comes out.
    Also be sure to check out The Gettysburg Museum of History and their store at www.gettysburgmuseumofhistory.com. Thanks!

    • @teresawright4454
      @teresawright4454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The civil war medical history is such an important part of understanding why this is the bloodiest war the USA ever fought

    • @robertwells6394
      @robertwells6394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Done.

    • @FencingGold
      @FencingGold 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not when it's wrong, mate.

    • @joelbeer3589
      @joelbeer3589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      11111111111111111111111111111111111111111

    • @TheHeroRobertELee
      @TheHeroRobertELee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any one with even a basic grasp of history knows there was never an "American Civil War". That's typical northern revisionism.
      The War for Southern Independence was not a Civil War. A civil war is what you see in africa with multiple groups vying for power for control of a country. The south never tried to take over or rule the country. They just wanted to keep what they ALREADY had and were legally entitled to. They LEGALLY seceded after all and they didn't try to take over Washington d.c. and the nation. In fact it was the other way around. 90% of the War did occur in the south after all because THEY were the ones invaded. A civil war is also a war between the citizens of ONE country. The War for Southern independence however was a war between two legal and SEPARATE and 2 DIFFERENT countries, with 2 DIFFERENT presidents, 2 different flags, 2 different armies, 2 different national anthems, 2 different constitutions, etc.
      The word "civil war" is an attempt to obfuscate the souths FULLY LEGAL and righteous cause of self determination and independence as highlighted in the declaration of independence and other writings of the proud southerner Thomas Jefferson, who also would have been a Confederate supporter himself.
      So stop calling it "the civil war." That's typical northern historical revisionist history.

  • @louisavondart9178
    @louisavondart9178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    The most devastating thing on the battlefield wasn't the bullets used but the outdated tactics used. The Minie ball made Napoleaonic era formations obselete but the Generals didn't understand that. Just line the men up like in the old days and let them get mown down from 300 yards. Simply horrific.

    • @risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302
      @risenfromyoutubesashesagai6302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yes!! Exactly!! I tried to say something similar, but you added so much more detail and such!

    • @Frankie5Angels150
      @Frankie5Angels150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Oh, I don’t know about that. How about surgery without anesthetic or and sanitizing of instruments and dressings whatsoever?
      More soldiers died of infection than any other causes.

    • @jasoncarswell7458
      @jasoncarswell7458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@Frankie5Angels150 You're wrong about the anesthesia. Civil War doctors had barrels of chloroform and ether at their disposal - it wasn't expensive or rare. Surgeries were conducted under the lowest level of anesthesia so they didn't stop a weak patient's breathing and kill the guy - there were no respirator machines back then for deep anesthesia. A lot of guys reported being dimly aware of their surgery but unable to feel any pain or sensations. Others thrashed and moaned but later reported no memory of the surgery. This was considered a vast improvement over the alternative either way. Morphine and opium was available by the bushel and prescribed liberally for post-surgical pain (and everything else), but was not used for surgery.
      The one thing they needed that they didn't have was antibiotics... since nobody yet agreed that bacteria even existed.

    • @madddog6790
      @madddog6790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A buddy of mine did re-enacting for years. I finally went to one in Cedar Creek (VA). According to him, it was the only re-enactment permitted on the actual battlefield. Can't remember exactly why, other than the Park Service owns a lot of these battlefields--maybe the land where they fought Cedar Creek was privately owned. In any case, the opposing ranks of guys where only about 60 yards apart in the open iirc. I just thought at the time how friggin' CRAZY it was that they would still be doing that, and how massive the casualties would have been. Balls of steel to do that, knowing what was coming.

    • @vanhattfield8292
      @vanhattfield8292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Frankie5Angels150 Infections from wounds sustained on the battlefield. Change formations and include cover as part of tactics and the number of soldiers being wounded and requiring medical aid, and hence infections, is reduced. The medical treatment is an effect, not a cause.

  • @1psychofan
    @1psychofan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I am 7 minutes into this and already learned 3 things I didn’t know…JD, your videos NEVER disappoint!

  • @howabouthetruth2157
    @howabouthetruth2157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Back in 1981, a friend of mine with his wife & kids RENTED a very old house in Guntersville Alabama, to live in. The house was an official historic landmark. The reason, is about 6.5 feet above the floor, there was an original cannon ball still lodged in the kitchen wall, with a wooden frame with a hinged door built around it. You reached up to open the little wooden door, to see the hole in the wall, along with written information inside the frame, stating the cannon ball that was lodged in a wall stud, was fired during the civil war.

    • @828enigma6
      @828enigma6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      There's a tree, I believe, on Mobile Bay, that had a 6" cannon ba lodged in it.

    • @howabouthetruth2157
      @howabouthetruth2157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@828enigma6 I bet there is indeed. Probably a bunch of old trees & any structures still standing have cannon balls lodged in em.

    • @Aluttuh
      @Aluttuh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thats freakin awesome

    • @savanahmclary4465
      @savanahmclary4465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool!

    • @savanahmclary4465
      @savanahmclary4465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@howabouthetruth2157 They say that at the battle of the Wilderness, in Virginia the trees still bear numerous bullets still today.

  • @larryburwell8550
    @larryburwell8550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My mom was a 6th grade teacher she died in 2017 at 92 but each summer we as a family took two weeks of vacation one to the beach in south Carolina the other to historic sites in the south. She tough this to her students. I'm 67 now but I loved her adventures

  • @fredlist7091
    @fredlist7091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Love this video!
    I was walking on a dirt path on East Cemetery Hill in Gettysburg one morning after a night of hard rain and found a Confederate Gardner-pattern (two-ring) bullet that had impacted a rock during flight and embedded in the ground. It has the same striations on one side as Eric’s bullet.
    It was an amazing feeling to think the last person to have touched it was a Confederate soldier 141 years before the rain washed it to the surface and I picked it up. I always wonder if that man survived the battle & the war. I hope he did.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wow!

    • @vanhattfield8292
      @vanhattfield8292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It may very well have been a Union soldier who was the last person to touch it if it passed through him before striking the rock. Who knows? Lucky find and great story.

    • @jaybee9269
      @jaybee9269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Would’ve given me chills.

    • @derekv8534
      @derekv8534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I found a civil war era bullet when I was a kid. I was walking through a freshly plowed field looking for arrow heads. My grandpa told me what it was and that it was probably from a hunter who was a veteran of the war that used his battle rifle, because there were no known battle fields in the area (southern Indiana). I don’t have a clue what I did with it, as it was well over 30 years ago.

  • @GeoHvl
    @GeoHvl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great show. I have an 1859 Sharps saddle carbine converted by RS Lawrence to 45/70 Government 1863. This weapon was a US issue before and after the conversion. I had 20 rounds made by a gunsmith years back. I have shot it 10 times, and its accuracy was astonishing, and it devastates red bricks. I do understand these wounds.
    I have had the weapon evaluated several times, but it can't be verified if used in the civil war.

  • @orellaminx3530
    @orellaminx3530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    2:34 And now you know why it was in paint. Lead miners used to have a lot of lead oxide laying around, turned it into very cheap white paint, also helps other paints dry faster.

  • @MrBlairskie
    @MrBlairskie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is the some of the best TH-cam content I've ever seen. I'm Canadian and still find this absolutely fascinating. These museums are far away from where I live and I probably won't get a chance to visit many of them. Keep up the good work bud. I'll be watching.

  • @AmericahasbecomeSouthPark
    @AmericahasbecomeSouthPark 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My son and I hired Michael Rupert, a registered battlefield tour guide at Gettysburg a couple years ago. Great tour. Incredibly knowledgeable. I recommend doing so if you go to there.

  • @projectdesign4675
    @projectdesign4675 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm a man, I cry maybe once every 6 years (average).....has anyone else cried over these young boys who suffered so horribly (and families)?

  • @adamlee3772
    @adamlee3772 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve seen many documentaries about the civil war but, as an Australian/British guy, we don’t get taught that much about it really. Your videos are exceptional, they give an insight that we rarely get. My interest in military is heavily biased to WW2 as my grandfather was killed during the second war world war and WW1 as my great grandfather was killed at Gallipoli. I really appreciate your videos for expanding my knowledge about your history.

  • @desertweasel6965
    @desertweasel6965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love hiking at Kennesaw Battlefield here in Ga. It's a very long hike through forests that open up into various battlefields. You can feel the energy from this place as thousands upon thousands were killed on both sides.
    If you hike up Kennesaw Mountain there are still cannons sitting in their same positions. There is a huge area of large rocks and boulders and all along is trenches and you can see right where they were laying. They would roll dozens of these boulders and rocks down onto the Union soldiers trying to make their way up.
    You can see damage and the warped tops of the old oak trees that were blown to pieces. There's graves along the way where people were buried where they fell. The battle of Cheatam Hill was brutal as they were fighting each other within 20ft. They even had a truce one day where they all stopped shooting each other, gathered their dead or dying off the field and then went right back to killing each other. The Union soldiers became so desperate to dislodge the Confederates from the top of Cheatam Hill, they dug a tunnel through the hill to place large amounts of black powder in to blow them up.Eventually, the Union army backed off and basically circled around the mountain and went straight into Atlanta. They burned everything to the ground.

    • @Razor-gx2dq
      @Razor-gx2dq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Been there before, nice place

  • @RoadWarrior-lo9vt
    @RoadWarrior-lo9vt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad TH-cam's algorithm gave me your/this particular video. I have always been interested in the civil war. I went on a field trip in elementary school to Gettysburg, but was too damn young to truly appreciate it. One of these weeks vacation, I'm going to go back and respect and appreciate properly, as a 54 or 55 yr old man.
    Thanks for sparking a forgotten interest!

  • @2Stonefly
    @2Stonefly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Good story: About a month ago my best friend and I were hunting Jack Rabbits in Northern Utah along the Promontory Rail Line and he looked down and found a Henry 44 Rimfire case. Cool to think that about 120 + years ago there was somebody in the same spot as him shooting at, probably a rabbit, just like us.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wow!

    • @Frankie5Angels150
      @Frankie5Angels150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I doubt a .44 cal would be used to hunt rabbits. Buffalo, perhaps. Or people…

    • @endutubecensorship
      @endutubecensorship 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Frankie5Angels150 120 years ago you may only be able to afford one firearm. It had to take any animal from deer to rabbit's to get food on the table.
      I've read stories of old timers using a 30 WCF (30-30) on everything from grouse to moose to feed their families.

    • @johnnorman7708
      @johnnorman7708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did that cartridge case have 2 firing pin dents and a big "H" on it?

    • @johnnorman7708
      @johnnorman7708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And yes, a .44 rimfire Henry or maybe Winchester 1866 .44 rimfire would have been just fine for taking rabbits if that's all you had. Also, a lot of those Civil War and even post civil war guns stayed in service for decades after they were built. And there are people today that use guns much bigger than is typical for taking small game sometimes. Especially handguns.

  • @DoKsTa1
    @DoKsTa1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm an australian, this is so awesome to see this kind of video, thks alot, so much to learn here, i 've always been intrieged about the gettysburg fight and others like it, I'm 55 now always something new around the corner..

  • @thinghammer
    @thinghammer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    You two guys are a great team. I'm looking forward to going back to Gettysburg and watching these videos while I'm back at the battlefield. Thanks for posting this.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks so much! Love Gettysburg.

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was very interesting to see the different style of bullets used during the civil war.thank you.

  • @gamallsdokkalfs7253
    @gamallsdokkalfs7253 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a longtime shooter of black powder firearms and someone very interested in history, I greatly enjoyed this video. I'm a Westerner who grew up in the geographic center of the fur trade. I have multiple black powder muzzleloading rifles and pistols, cap and ball pistols and a beautiful breech loading Sharpe's .45-70 rifle. I even designed custom molds for my .45-70 and then commissioned a machinist to machine my molds. I say all these things to let you know of my experience and how I recognize the great knowledge and experience of Eric the curator. Eric knows his business. The only things I will add is the black powder bullets traveled much slower than modern smokeless bullets, had less power, and followed a "rainbow" trajectory. The designers of these bullets made up for these shortcomings by using much heavier bullets than we use today. In comparison, today's M-4/M-16 bullets usually weigh 55 to 62 grains, M-14 bullets weigh 147 grains, and WWII-era M-1 bullets weigh 150 grains. The .58 caliber Minie balls weighed an average of 500 grains! Also, modern military projectiles are normally Full Metal Jacket and punch through a person with little expansion. A lead bullet with no metal jacket, quickly expands causing much more damage. Think of a hole of .223 or .308 inch compared to one of .58 inches that rapidly expands to utterly destroy bone and organs! Thank you.

  • @mrdgaf3393
    @mrdgaf3393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    how’s this guy not famous. the information he provides is very professional and on a different level. education is a must and he nails it.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Probably has something to do with the face and that ratty ball cap that he won’t throw away. 😄
      But thanks for the kind words. Hopefully the channel is sparking an interest in history & giving people something to share with others.

  • @jasonwilliamson8416
    @jasonwilliamson8416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I own a reproduction 1861 Springfield. I've taken it target shooting a few times and the damage that a .58 caliber Minie bullet does is unfathomable.

    • @828enigma6
      @828enigma6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      50 is no slouch either.

    • @vanhattfield8292
      @vanhattfield8292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just curious as to what you are using as a target where you can determine the damage that is being done by the bullet. Most targets I am familiar with only register a hole and there is no way to determine damage. This may sound like a smart a$$ question but it is not intended to be at all. Thanks!

    • @mickeydee3595
      @mickeydee3595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vanhattfield8292 probably shooting water jugs or large coke bottles... Ballistic gel etc etc

    • @Razor-gx2dq
      @Razor-gx2dq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mickeydee3595 or ballistic torsos

    • @lindycorgey2743
      @lindycorgey2743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vanhattfield8292 I would not do it today. Because it is so expensive. But years ago I used a 5lb ham as a target for a .50cal mine ball. 25yds it destroyed the ham.

  • @dsnider1360
    @dsnider1360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I highly recommend the Gettysburg Museum of History. The last time I was in Gettysburg, I visited there. They have so many artifacts that just fascinating, and the owner of museum, shown in the video is an extremely nice and knowledgeable man. It's a must see!

  • @jasonbader431
    @jasonbader431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Going to Gettysburg was one of the things that I will never forget. Being on. Little round top and looking down on the revel position. And hear gunshots, from the north and south, and no one was there was haunting, and made you think about lose of life at that bloody battle.

    • @bushhippie7372
      @bushhippie7372 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Went as a kid and it was amazing. Would love to go back now that I’m grown and can appreciate the history a bit more.

  • @charlesfollette9692
    @charlesfollette9692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I drive for a living, I pass through Gettysburg on a regular basis on us 15. I don’t park there at night, seen some questionable things.

  • @tommyking2344
    @tommyking2344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely love this channel. I always learn something new. I’ve always loved history. I am unable to do a lot of thing’s because of a back injury. History is my escape. And your channel always helps me escape. Thank you

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words. So glad that channel is serving you in some small way.

    • @tommyking2344
      @tommyking2344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It truly does. The content is always good and you have an awesome way of telling us about it. Your love for history truly shows through and inspires others

  • @eshelly4205
    @eshelly4205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    One day I was at Gettysburg and we were near Little Round top. There was a British couple there and we were talking. Suddenly we heard a series of thumping sounds coming towards us, horse hooves galloping, it got louder and louder and the sound passed right past us. We saw a shimmer go by. The British guy looked at me with wide eyes and said “PLEASE TELL ME YOU BLOODY HEARD AND SAW THAT!” The wives were already high steeping it back the way we came ……

    • @nelsonx5326
      @nelsonx5326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was it a ghost?

    • @eshelly4205
      @eshelly4205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@nelsonx5326 I’m not sure. In a sense I think so. If you can imagine horses galloping towards you and then passing right in from of you that’s what it sounded like. There was a shimmer when the sound was the loudest. Right in front of us. It was a shimmer like looking down a hot road in the summer with the heat rising up. The British guys wife said “It was a ghost” I was to dumbfounded to say anything…..it was astonishing

    • @paulorchard7960
      @paulorchard7960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nelsonx5326 ghost or an ice cream truck!

    • @audieconrad8995
      @audieconrad8995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eshelly4205 reinforcements for the 20th Maine?

    • @eshelly4205
      @eshelly4205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@audieconrad8995 yes I was in the area of the Maine. How did you know?

  • @loyalrammy
    @loyalrammy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My 2 Greats Grandpa lost half a leg due to a Minnie ball, just after Gettysburg. He recovered in a US Army Hospital, located in Central Park, NYC, NY

    • @bman2617
      @bman2617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was one of them, by chance, commissioned as a lieutenant? I think the name was dan.

    • @loyalrammy
      @loyalrammy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bman2617 No. Amos Hall was my grandpa’s name and three of his brothers served with him in the New York 9th Volunteer Cavalry. One of these brothers ran into a small troop of Confederates near Gettysburg and were the first to alert thee Union Army as to their presence. My Gramps actually survived Gettysburg and was shot after the battle on patrol south of there. One of the brothers did become an officer before the end of the war.

    • @TheTradosaurus
      @TheTradosaurus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No sympathy for the Yankees

  • @jeffgreer198613
    @jeffgreer198613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is hands down my favorite history channel . Keep up the good work.

  • @dev-debug
    @dev-debug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lucky enough to live only be 3 hours from Gettyburg, been there more weekends than I care to count over the past decade. If you're able to make a visit to Gettysburg you won't regret it, great town to visit with tons of history, monuments etc. The museum featured in the video is a great place to go, we always learn something new there. There are also many small shops/museums scattered all over town. There is one that has a section of a tree that is absolutly peppered with lead from both sides. Crazy to think that much was lead just flying all around the soldiers. A stroll through the National Cemetary there is a real eye opener when you see the small markers with just body counts. Was a tragic and brutal battle.
    The first time we went we took a guided tour bus, I can't really recommend them. Going to the little museums and the one in this video is far more educational. People there are friendly and real civil war buffs, so they are great to chat with. Made many friends down that way over the years, look forward to heading back soon.

  • @JasperJokerII
    @JasperJokerII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I remember as a kid visiting Gettysburg. No matter where you went people were selling Civil War bullets, dirt cheap. It wasn't uncommon to see baskets in shops filled with them and I distinctly remember seeing several that had collided in mid air thinking, "oh that's neat" ........then NOT getting any. Insert sad face here....

    • @Orthanderis
      @Orthanderis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably haunted anyways

  • @noahmercy-mann4323
    @noahmercy-mann4323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just as a relatable comparison, a .69 caliber Minie is about the same diameter as a 16 gauge shotgun bore, but weighs 1.5 to 1.7 ounces, which is much heavier than 12 gauge slugs. Despite leaving the muzzle at only 900 feet per second, their inertia and diameter made them devastating on fleshy targets.

    • @828enigma6
      @828enigma6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the possibility of getting two or three of the enemy with a single projectile.

  • @armorer94
    @armorer94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As important as the bullets, the fact that most long guns were rifled made a huge difference.

    • @TheGearhead222
      @TheGearhead222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true. Roughly half of all of the guns used in the Civil war were smoothbore-John in Texas

    • @armorer94
      @armorer94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheGearhead222 but half were. Much more that either the revolutionary war or war of 1812. And those that were rifled were far easier to load and fire due to minie' balls, thus increasing rate of fire.

    • @flintymcduff5417
      @flintymcduff5417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@armorer94 that isn't true. The paper catridges used for military smoothbore were every bit as fast to reload. Accuracy at longer range was the benefit.

  • @japanvintagecamera8869
    @japanvintagecamera8869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    All bullets of the 19th Century are fundamentally deadly. Bullets weren't designed to kiss you, or wake you up from a deep sleep, they were meant to kill as quickly and efficiently as possible. And these heavy, wide, and slow-moving bullets were perfectly capable of doing that. I was a medic in the US Army, and was trained to treat gunshot wounds. I was also a competitive shooter, and know somewhat of the history of military firearms. There are some interesting facts about military rifles and bullets which many people aren't aware of.
    First, bullets designed for war are different from bullets designed for hunting, even though both kinds of bullets can be used interchangeably in the same rifle. Hunting bullets are made of soft lead with a soft point and a copper jacket, this allows the bulllet to expand to several times its original size. This increases the lethality of the bullet, making it more "humane," so animals shot with such a bullet die qucikly, without suffering. Military bullets are fully-jacketed, they do not have a soft point, they do not expand when they hit a target. This makes them significantly less lethal. The Geneva Convention of the 20th Century prohibited military use of soft point bullets.
    Second, in the 1960's new studies showed that using less lethal bullets were more strategically effective in warfare. It was determined that the time and expense of evacuating and treating wounded soldiers was far more than burying dead ones. Medical support logistics for combat are complex and expensive. An injured soldier is not only taken off the opposing team, but those who must evacuate and treat him must also be discounted from the team.
    The later military rifles, like the Armalite, AK74, and allied copies used smaller-caliber, less lethal ammunition. There were several logical points, the main being the one I described in the previous paragraph, the others being that if bullets were made smaller and lighter, more of them could be carried, and a smaller-caliber rifle is easier to fire more accurately than a large-caliber rifle. My grandfather often complained that the 30-06 Springfield rifle used by the Army in his day kicked like a horse (he as a Cavalryman who knew what being kicked by a horse felt like), and when shooting at targets while laying on an earthen hill, each shot pushed the solders a little bit down the hill, so after every few shots, they had to climb back up so they could see the targets.
    When we trained with an M16, our drill sergeants said not to be afraid of it, that it was easy to shoot, and had no kick. The demonstrated this by placing the butt stock against their chins and even against their crotches while firing live ammunition.
    The rifles of the Civil War for the most part weren't much more advanced than the rifles of the 18th Century, Natty Bumpo's ("Hawkeye" from "Last of the Mohicans") "Killdeer" rifle was a .54 caliber, blackpowder flintlock, and was every bit as deadly (and more) as your common Civil War trooper's. But the Civil War introduced the repeating rifle, like the Spencer and Henry, leading to more efficient mayhem and carnage. Knowing what I do about arms and bullets, I would much prefer to be shot by a modern AR15 or M4 than any garden-variety rifle of the 18th or 19th centuries. Those old guns killed or dismembered their targets with ruthless efficiency. The only positive thing to come about during the Civil War was the great advance in medical science, fueled by the huge numbers of war casualties.

  • @robertcombs55
    @robertcombs55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    MY Great Grandfather and Great Uncle were CSA Soldier's. I would have worn the Grey with them. I am a Vietnam Vet; I thank GOD I Missed the Civil War....

  • @Ro6entX
    @Ro6entX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Years ago I had a friend claim he had found a bullet stuck in a big rock, which unfortunately I don’t remember the battle field now; Strange things happen in war. As for all those types of bullets used, had I been in that war, I think dying from gunshot would be the lesser worry, instead being horribly wounded. And no matter how many times I see the skull of the soldier from the 54th, it was one of the more devastating things one can see from that war; poor guy probably was dead on his feet instantly. Props to Eric for his knowledge 👍

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Definitely learned a lot while filming this episode. Hope that others get something out of it as well!

  • @azoutdoors2344
    @azoutdoors2344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The mini ball ammo used during the American Civil War absolutely boggles my mind. They were obviously very different and much heavier than the standard 62 grain (M855) 5.56x45mm green tip NATO cartridges, that we use today.

    • @lindycorgey2743
      @lindycorgey2743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My Captain I worked for in the Texas State Prison. He did Civil War Reenactment. I once told him I would rather be hit with a Russian 7.62x39 or U.S. 5.56 over a soft .58cal mini all. I've seen the results of being hit by CW rounds on the web. I know being hit by a modern round is bad. But OMG on a 58.

    • @thepopeofkeke
      @thepopeofkeke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The two hundred year old bullets were different? “Obviously” didn’t need to tell us that

    • @flintymcduff5417
      @flintymcduff5417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! Different? Amazing!

  • @mickeydee3595
    @mickeydee3595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The damage to the body that these Minie bullets would cause was absolutely horrific.

    • @mentalizatelo
      @mentalizatelo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here's a great video about the effects on minie bullets (and other era diseases): th-cam.com/video/uvV7zUVL18k/w-d-xo.html
      Jump to 1.10 for the minie balls.
      Here's another great one, with 3d explanations and such:
      th-cam.com/video/eMvHpWLeT-U/w-d-xo.html

  • @pennsyltuckyden9823
    @pennsyltuckyden9823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I always learn so much from this channel, thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos.

  • @markpalmer6760
    @markpalmer6760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That was actually very interesting, I never knew that they developed exploding bullets back then amazing.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The exploding bullet was a new one on me too.

    • @Jonathan.D
      @Jonathan.D 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The cleaning bullet was a brilliant idea. Anyone who has used a black powder rifle knows how quickly the barrel gets full of soot. The powder they used back then was even worse. Imagine the frustration if you had to stop to clean your rifle in the middle of the battle. Many people are also surprised by the caliber of the rounds used back then. They think the 50cal rifle is a modern size. There is a huge difference between a black powder 50cal and a modern 50cal. Still, the 59 and 69cal rounds used then were massive hunks of lead to be hit with.

    • @roya.cathcartjr.5042
      @roya.cathcartjr.5042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An infantryman witnessed on July 1, 1863 another infantryman standing on the field convulsing and shaking as he was hit in the front, back and right side by Minnie Balls and once he fell counted 23 Minnie Ball holes in his body and wasn't sure if he was hit by Confederate Minnie Balls or if his cartridge box carrying exploding bullets was hit igniting them off into the man.

    • @Baltic_Hammer6162
      @Baltic_Hammer6162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cannon shells yes but small arms bullets no. Quite interesting. The Germans and Russians in WW2 had exploding rifle bullets, in 8x57 Mauser and 7.62x54 Russian. They're very rare today as not many were made. Mostly used by snipers to maximize wounds. I've seen one test session and they are nasty.

  • @fyremanjef
    @fyremanjef 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My cousin is a dedicated relic hunter of civil war artifacts. He has quite the collection of bullets, buckles and the like. I asked about bullet calibers after seeing the bullet holes from your Jenni Wade video. He showed me one of his .69 caliber rounds he found. This is bigger than a quarter. That explains the size of the holes and the damage.

  • @Theupstateidiots
    @Theupstateidiots 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When I was a kid my mom and stepdad did an Adirondack theme in our house. We had a bunch of rough sawn and themed the bathroom downstairs to look like a giant outhouse inside. While fitting the walls with wood they noticed on the edges of the wood, some had chunks of lead where someone had shot a tree and the saw cut the bullet in half. Neat stuff.

  • @tmknolBashore
    @tmknolBashore ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw this episode and had to chuckle. My son picked out a perfect present for me this year... a small collection of minie balls from a collection from Antietam.

  • @Crimson.S.57
    @Crimson.S.57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The cleaner bullet details are a myth.
    They where truly intended to replace the mini ball. The Plat at the bottom forced the base to expand when rammed in, meaning their was no gas blowby as the round expanded during firing. Resulting in slightly higher velocity and accuracy, the fact it caused less blackpowder fouling was an unintended byproduct.
    Soldiers hated them because they where basically impossible to extract after picket(forward guard)duty.

    • @binalith4898
      @binalith4898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      can you please explain that further? why were they hard to extract? from what?

    • @the_mowron
      @the_mowron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@binalith4898 It's a muzzleloader. To unload the gun, you can either fire it, or pull the bullet out the entire length of the barrel. Firing the gun would necessitate cleaning because black powder residue is corrosive.

    • @lyleseaman4414
      @lyleseaman4414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should have just swapped their loaded rifle for the unloaded rifle of whomever came to relieve them.

    • @zackzittel7683
      @zackzittel7683 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re 100% right. I almost had a stroke when he claimed it was to clean the bore.

  • @GhostofSicklesleg
    @GhostofSicklesleg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After working a 24 hour shift, I slept a bit and woke up to this. Thanks JD love your channel and it’s content, and of course they way it’s presented

  • @1psychofan
    @1psychofan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh boy! I buckled up Let’s do this!

  • @eds7033
    @eds7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had the pleasure of meeting Eric @gettysburgmuseumofhjstory last month on my third visit. Bought his books and several bullets. Yep I now own pieces of history. Thanks to you both!

  • @goldiekildea2924
    @goldiekildea2924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Anything to do with the civil war especially Gettysburg. I have been to Gettysburg I don't know how many times my husband and just love it and we, are so fascinated with that in particular battle. I get so lost in that whole Mayhem of the battles fought at Gettysburg. I believe that I am from that time of our blue and gray coats and the great battle of our nation!

  • @cetriemmmmm7177
    @cetriemmmmm7177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Awesome collection really, specially those explosive rounds. But the holy grail of bullets is missing to complete the collection. The Whitworth's first sniper rifle's hexagonal bullet.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👍🏻

    • @jaybee9269
      @jaybee9269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Check out the Forgotten Weapons channel; Ian (Gun Jesus) reviewed a nice example of a Whitworth sniper rifle from the Civil War.

  • @longrider42
    @longrider42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The .577 caliber Minie ball was fired from the British Enfield Rifled Musket. My Great Great Grandfather, who fought at the battle of Shilo, used a Enfield Rifle, and he was in the Union Army. So the British sold to both sides. Where as a .69 or .75 caliber smooth bore musket might have a range out to say 100 yards. The new Minie Bullet would kill out to 300 yards. So yeah, very deadly. .577 caliber minie balls could easily be loaded into a Springfield .58 caliber rifled musket. But the .575 caliber minie ball used in the Springfield Rifled musket, was an extremely tight fit in the Enfield .577. So much so, that it was rarely done. Especially after a few rounds and fouling would build up in the barrel. And yes, I do shoot black powder firearms, and I've had both the Enfield 1858 Rifled Musket in .577 and the 1862 Springfield Rifled Musket in .58 caliber.

  • @MBremer
    @MBremer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great episode, a lot of good information and education. Having been to The Gettysburg Museum of History and seeing these things in person, hearing the background stories really helps bring this history to life.

  • @evanmyers100
    @evanmyers100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was there today at the museum and met Eric. Been to Gettsyburg 12 times told Eric I was there for the first time because of you.

  • @tigershark7155
    @tigershark7155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have two lead balls that my mother found at wounded knee.
    It’s part of my collection of Japanese ceramic grenades, grenade shrapnel from battle of the bulge. Spent 7.7
    I found in the dirt near the mouth of Pearl Harbor (actually in the dirt of the Navy house we lived) and a piece of the USS Arizona.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😯

    • @srf2112
      @srf2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am a collector of things also but if you believe you have a genuine piece of the USS Arizona you should contact the proper department or organization to return that solemn relic. It would be the right thing to do.

    • @richtomlinson7090
      @richtomlinson7090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My late father picked up a piece of a Japanese Zero that missed him by a few yards, and I have the Japanese submarine steering wheel that he took off a surrendered sub, right after the war.

    • @tigershark7155
      @tigershark7155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@srf2112
      You are absolutely right. I picked it up when I was young, stupid and 10.

  • @misticismoNATURAL
    @misticismoNATURAL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. Hugs from Brazil.

  • @ctbob7635
    @ctbob7635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The "rings" of these cast lead bullets were called lube grooves. The grooves were filled with a lubricant to counteract the friction of the bullet traveling down the bore. They also would provide material displaced by the rifling some place to go. (bullets are made slightly larger than the internal size of the barrel) As the bullet is propelled down the barrel rifling they eat into the grooves of the barrel which puts a spin on it , the bullet, allowing them to fly true. Additionally the lubricant served to reduce the chance of leading or lead fouling and buildup in the barrel.

  • @callhunter34
    @callhunter34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the idea of an educator being able to bring something like this to show kids. I know I would have loved it but honestly that day has come and gone. You can’t bring in spent blank cartridges from a ww2 reenactment without getting in school suspension.

  • @dalesmith4778
    @dalesmith4778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1 very important thing left out about the mini balls is they were made hollow so they could expand because it made them easy to load shot after shot. If they were solid you'd only be able to shoot twice because you'd never get another bullet in the barrel until it cooled down.

    • @spannaspinna
      @spannaspinna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Barrel should expand as it heats up

    • @dalesmith4778
      @dalesmith4778 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does but the mini ball is made so that even if it gets hot and expands you can still load it relatively fast. I hunted with a .58 caliber muzzle loader and a .45 caliber. The .45 used a solid bullet and after you shot it you had the hit the ramrod on a tree to get the bullet down the barrel. The .58 was as easy as the 1st time to load shot after shot.

    • @dalesmith4778
      @dalesmith4778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spannaspinna also when it expands it goes in and out.

    • @flintymcduff5417
      @flintymcduff5417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The heat of the barrel has nothing to do with it. It has to do with the buildup of black powder residue. If you had to hit the ramrod against a tree to load a second round in a .45 caliber rifle you are seriously doing something wrong.

    • @flintymcduff5417
      @flintymcduff5417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spannaspinna he has no idea what he's talking about.

  • @corbinbacon9043
    @corbinbacon9043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shout out to Eric and the Gettysburg museum of history.

  • @jfnuyen
    @jfnuyen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was an excellent presentation on civil war bullets. Thank you very much for this detailed discussion.

  • @paulcresswell2279
    @paulcresswell2279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm from the uk and find this so interesting. Thank you.

  • @monitor1862
    @monitor1862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I was a kid I saw a picture of a Civil War rifle where a bullet fired from the other side entered the muzzle of the rifle just as it was fired. The bullet meet and burst the barrel. Who knows if that's what really happened.

  • @AVoltigeur
    @AVoltigeur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also here in Savannah was the first engagement with a new technology called rifled artillery. It obliterated a impregnable brick Fort Pulaski in 24 hours. Live rounds are still stuck in the walls.

  • @Osmiculture
    @Osmiculture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi JD. Great run through of the different bullets used in the various Civil War battles. When you started with the bone fractures, I was really expecting you to review how the evolving bullet designs caused shifts in the battle-lines distances, due to the increasing accuracy of Minié balls. Maybe you can do/confirm this for another episode with Mr Dorr.
    I read that poor the round-ball accuracy had meant that the opposing soldiers meant that they usually lined up to shoot at 100m distances. When the Minié balls 'suddenly' appeared in the ranks, this accuracy distance quadrupled which took a while to be realised by the officers and men - hence combined with the extra bullet weight, shooting Minié balls at 100m was almost like shooting at point-blank range, resulting in increasing flesh carnage, bone devastation and amputations (if the victims survived). Perhaps the shift was realised before the Gettysburg battlelines and that's why you didn't allude to it. Anyway I hope at a later date, you'll look at battle-line distances in relation to accelerating evolutions of the munitions technology (which all wars tend to provoke).
    Very much enjoyed the revellations in this episode. All the best.

  • @Knards
    @Knards ปีที่แล้ว

    My great grandmother lost a brother on the 3rd day at Gettysburg. Goes to show the war wasn't that long ago, and worse, how quickly weapons of war have advanced

  • @cyndiebill6631
    @cyndiebill6631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Awesome!! I have it on my wish list to buy a bullet from the Museum. I always wanted a piece of history from Gettysburg. It’s nice to know I can get one from someone I can trust. This was a great video as always.😁👍

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nice! They have all kinds of options on their website.

    • @rider660r
      @rider660r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can sell you all the .69 bullets you want.....they're like brand new....haha

  • @daleromdenne
    @daleromdenne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for persevering our history. What a cool thing to own. I have stuff like this in my man cave but wish I had a whole house to fill. How cool. Thanks again

  • @mentalizatelo
    @mentalizatelo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God bless museums and people behind them. Great video and explanations, thank you!

  • @stupifyingstupedity2112
    @stupifyingstupedity2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Favorite piece is the collided bullets. Neat artifact of battle; nice amulet of luck - but mostly, an interesting testament of our common use of space and how we are forced into improbable intersections of intents.

  • @SandervkHistory
    @SandervkHistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The American Civil war is the last war inwhich (if i had to choose) would want to be shot in... damn those bullets are scary

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Soft lead deforming and tumbling through the body......awful.

  • @daveyjoweaver6282
    @daveyjoweaver6282 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Kindly for a Great piece of history! I live 65mi. East of Gettysburg and have been there many times. But the next time I’ll be stopping at the museum and buy some bullets,,,,,after seeing this amazing collection of history! Peace and Joy of Being! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania

  • @jeanniebuchholz9923
    @jeanniebuchholz9923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The William's "cleaner" bullets were not meant to be used to give a field expedient barrel cleaning to clear out fouling. They were labeled as cleaner bullets because they actually were designed to shoot cleaner and have less fouling between shots. Karl Kasarda from InRangeTV channel did a vid on these about a year ago and busted the myth, which I believed because that's what all the metal detector channels told me. Good luck and God bless.

    • @paulsouth4794
      @paulsouth4794 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you need to do a bit more resurch of the sharps rifle .

    • @jeanniebuchholz9923
      @jeanniebuchholz9923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulsouth4794 The cleaner bullets I was referring to were for the muzzleloading guns used during the war. I wasn't aware that the Sharps used the cleaner bullets; I'll definitely need to research that. Thanks, good luck and God bless.

  • @davidking6172
    @davidking6172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eric knows his stuff. You guys make a great team.

  • @corbinbacon9043
    @corbinbacon9043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy smokes. You had me at the title!

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty interesting stuff.

    • @corbinbacon9043
      @corbinbacon9043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheHistoryUnderground one could say as much about pretty much everything I've seen on this channel. Thank you for sharing experience and knowledge!

  • @patton303
    @patton303 ปีที่แล้ว

    My great great grandfather William C Huyler served in the 27th NJ Vols and was mustered out and then re-enlisted and served in the 12th NJ Vols. The Buck and Balls! I guess ol’ Bill wasn’t done fighting! Can’t wait to visit here. Awesome history!

  • @Roller_Ghoster
    @Roller_Ghoster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Surgeons Museum in Edinburgh has medical drawings of the wounds suffered by Waterloo veterans. Brutal wouldn't be in it. Its amazing how by the US Civil War technology had moved on but the tactics were still very much rooted in the times of Waterloo 50 odd years earlier.

  • @garymozingo3383
    @garymozingo3383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always a great video on Civil War ammo. Someday when you have time, if you indeed do, a video on carved minie balls. I've dug many over 40+ years of detecting and they always amaze me. Tks for your great educational videos...

  • @pauldurkee4764
    @pauldurkee4764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very interesting indeed, I was aware that the most common calibre used was .58, but a .69 soft lead bullet, what a horrible way to die being hit by that.

    • @johnnorman7708
      @johnnorman7708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pretty devastating wounds came from these large caliber lead projectiles. I'm sure many victims died almost instantly, and many more expired within minutes from blood loss. Even though velocity of a lot of these were more on par with modern handgun speeds and power factors, the bore sizes were very large by modern standards. They closely compare to shotgun bores in many instances. And in the case of the buck and ball loads mentioned being fired from smooth bore muskets were essentially single shot shotguns in practice.

    • @rider660r
      @rider660r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnnorman7708 I'm not sure what the velocity is on them,but even at say handgun velocity do you realize how much energy is behind a .69 miniball?
      We have 2 .69 rifles,one is a repo and the other is a orig. that was turned into a shotgun sometime after the war.It's been about two decades since we really shot,but have shot the repo. and a lot of other blackpowder guns a lot,my stepfather used to competition shoot with blackpowder and we also pour our own bullets.The .69 miniball is 700+ grains (I forget what I weighed it at exactly at a few decades ago).Your normal (or most popular) deer rifle,say a 30-06 or .308 bullet weight is 160grain.
      The modern rifles may travel 2-3x faster but that energy behind "that slow" 700+gr. is carrying a lot of energy.
      There is a formula to calculate what the energy would be for bullets traveling at so and so velocity and so an so weight of bullet.
      Being shot with a shotgun slug (not buckshot) would be pretty close to what there rifles would do.

    • @johnnorman7708
      @johnnorman7708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rider660r Quick research showed .69 caliber minie ball at about 730-750 grains and a velocity of 900-1000 feet per second with typical charges of 60-70 grains of black powder. That is non magnum handgun speeds throwing bullets nearly identical to 12ga shotgun slug diameter and weights. So except for speed, the comparison is valid. And I would expect the wounds to be very similar in a general sense. Big holes completely through any part of the human body being the usual. Major bones struck are shattered and cracked. That was why amputation was the usual civil war treatment for arm and leg wounds involving bones. No reconstructive medical science to handle that in 1861. But yes, devastating mostly unsurvivable wounds if delivered to the torso. Even with the medical technology today, a shooting victim would be in serious danger of expiring before or during transport to a trauma center. Man's ability to destroy his fellow man was well advanced 150 years ago.

    • @rider660r
      @rider660r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnorman7708 Ahhhh,it's so nice when someone finally does a lil research instead of just thinking something is impossible,photoshopped,or whatever.
      Like I said IDK what the numbers are for the energy....now know the aprox. velocity.I do know it's huge as one day we were just screwing around was shooting target.Applied a target to a solid Red Oak log with a diameter of about 22-24" and 24" long.At about 35-40yds when I shot that log went flipping and rolling back about 20-25'.

    • @juanzulu1318
      @juanzulu1318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Arent paintballs of nearly the same caliber, .68? It helps visualizing how large such a caliber actually is.

  • @denbo74
    @denbo74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I net this guy once in a bar in Gettysburg. Very nice guy and very knowledgeable. He has some really crazy stuff in his collection

  • @joeritchie4554
    @joeritchie4554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have fired a .58 caliber civil war rifle. It kicked like a mule. I don't know how they fired those things so many times in a battle. The raid that the confederate leader Morgan took into Ohio went past the farm I grew up on. They stopped on a part of the property and I found some of those mini balls growing up there.

    • @flintymcduff5417
      @flintymcduff5417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine doesn't kick very hard and I use standard Civil War loads, or higher.

  • @mr.thickey3959
    @mr.thickey3959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Ach du lieber, mein schatz”! Wonderful & educational video! I’m 82 now, but over the past many many years/decades, I’ve fired a great many .58 “Minnie Balls” in my Enfield rifles (2 band & Musketoon). Cast my own too. The best description I’ve ever read about getting hit by a Minnie Ball, from an old Lyman reloading manual I believe, was “getting hit by a .58 Minnie Ball was like getting hit with the flat side of an ax by a 7 foot Swede!!! I’ll bet that Swede had LUTEFISK to eat too!!! Think too of the terrible effect of getting hit by a Minnie Ball that was loaded BACKWARDS, hollow base forward!!! A giant “hollow point bullet”! Even more so if it was in .69 caliber! I used to love to do penetration tests with all my calibers to see the great expansions! I still have a couple of .58 Minnie Balls that expanded to about 1 1/4” or more! How about that for a self defense gun?! Of course one could always “bludgeon” the poor “perpetrator” to a horrible death with the butt end of his gun! WOW, what horrible stories could be told! The worst “torture” though was being forced to eat a big plate of LUTEFISK plain, no mustard! “A PAIN BEYOND BELIEF”!!! “Gesundheit”!

    • @flukedogwalker3016
      @flukedogwalker3016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I spent 2 Christmases on Norwegian vessels, all the lutefisk you can eat. I starved on those days. I mistook fish gravy for custard, ruined my dessert too.

  • @FrankCostanza456
    @FrankCostanza456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I find it so interesting when you are actually on-site at Gettysburg Museum of History looking at artifacts.

  • @tommroz5539
    @tommroz5539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👏 Fantastic! Love your Program!

  • @scaven09
    @scaven09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anyone heard of the “battle of the bees?” Around Hollywood Arkansas. I was told there was a battle that stirred up a huge bee hive and both sides went running!

  • @FLjcollins
    @FLjcollins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hope to see more of you and Eric- you two, and your combined knowledge, plus great personalities make me want to watch more. Thanks JD!

  • @DucatiGTS
    @DucatiGTS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, it's amazing how far we have come with battlefield triage. From just chopping off the limb, to saving limbs from blasts. What a stark contrast in historical context.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely. Awful what the soft chunk of lead would do when it entered human flesh.

    • @frankkolton1780
      @frankkolton1780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Three major changes were on the horizon after the U.S. Civil War that aided in the survival of the wounded:
      1. The development of metal casings and smaller caliber rifle rounds. No more limb destroying big musket and Minie ball ammo. (But rate of fire increased dramatically)
      2. IV,3 of the Hague Convention of 1899. The prohibition of expanding bullets. Non lead bullets, or in military parlance, ball ammo, became the norm.
      3. The introduction of sulfonamides and penicillin.

  • @mattc3169
    @mattc3169 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back in the 80s I went to Fredericksburg with my family and we were able to purchase some artifacts including belt buckles, buttons and bullets. My father still has them which I just recently showed my kids. So fascinating to think that those items were used in war!

  • @dawndickson2156
    @dawndickson2156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Informative as always. Thank you gentlemen.

  • @effen_aey_man
    @effen_aey_man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That "Fact" about the cleaner bullets is a misconception, they were called cleaner bullets because they were designed to burn all the black powder behind the bullet so they shot cleaner then a regular Minie ball and you wouldn't have to clean your rifle as often.

  • @carlalorch8650
    @carlalorch8650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow; this is great stuff. I just started collecting Civil War bullets and have found the information given here very helpful. Thank you 😊

  • @skimmer8774
    @skimmer8774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those bullets made up some pretty heavy ammo boxes I bet. All these civil war videos have been so interesting. Thank you.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine hauling all of that gear in wool uniforms in the middle of July.

  • @nethanelmasters5170
    @nethanelmasters5170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a pair of dice carved from 69 cal balls found them just out side the Pea Ridge battle field federal park in Arkansas. About 20 years ago metal detecting. My friend found a bugle off the top of a cap. And a broken sword hilt. I found a brass tip off of a sword scabbard. And a broken bayonet spike was gone only the part that attached to the rifle mussel was left. We both found alot of bullet drops unfired this was a camp site. He found a mini with a hole it looked like a fishing sinker.

  • @TheGearhead222
    @TheGearhead222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Minie ball is a BIG reason why jacketed rounds were created-John in Texas

  • @Chiller01
    @Chiller01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a surgeon I have, unfortunately, had numerous occasions to attempt to repair bone and soft tissue injuries created by firearms projectiles. No matter what one feels about gun control the US is a fertile environment for gaining experience treating gunshot injuries. Im not a ballistics expert but the complexity of the fracture is more a function of the velocity of the projectile as opposed to the mass. With a fast moving bullet the transfer of the kinetic energy from projectile to bone is more abrupt creating a greater number of smaller bone fragments. A larger slow round will certainly fracture bone but the resulting fragments will be larger and easier to piece back together.

  • @thefeatheredfrontiersman8135
    @thefeatheredfrontiersman8135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember corpse Hill. The creek ran red. The sun never came among all the fire and smoke.
    It's amazing that any men survived at all.
    They also mentioned a solid wood door with three balls still in it to this day.

  • @zachb8012
    @zachb8012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You said the Civil war was the bloodiest conflict in which the US has ever been involved and I looked up some figures. Officially between 600k to 1M people perished. As if that isn't jaw-dropping, imagine the population of the US at the time was only about 20M people. There wasn't a single person this war didn't affect. If a small child didn't lose their father for the better part of 4 years, he didn't come home at all. Considering most families were rural subsistence farmers at the time, there must have been scores of women left alone to care for an entire family farm and a generation of children by themselves. The stakes weren't just combatants risking their own death but everyone who relies on them, mostly women and children. If only everyone mongering war these days would think about the fact war is a punctuated snap in time compared to the suffering and hardships in its wake.

    • @mrblack888
      @mrblack888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine the evil in the hearts of those men who decided a million Americans should die so Africans can be treated as equals to their masters.

  • @gc0960
    @gc0960 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recall a guide at Gettysburg stating that the .58 caliber bullet was way more than necessary to incapacitate the enemy soldier. But they needed a bullet that could also take out a horse if necessary. That’s why the .58 caliber was selected, to be able to kill the largest target they may come up against.

  • @corbinbacon9043
    @corbinbacon9043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just watched that episode a few days ago.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That episode at the National Health and Medicine Museum is probably one of the most horrifying and fascinating places that I've ever been.

    • @corbinbacon9043
      @corbinbacon9043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheHistoryUnderground I can imagine why. But thank you for taking me there with you!

  • @derek89273
    @derek89273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keeping History alive 1 episode at a time. Nice work.

  • @kmorris180
    @kmorris180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The next time I'm at Gettysburg I'm going to see if I can locate the hill where one of my relatives was killed. He's buried somewhere there. I look at this video and wonder if some of those yankee bullets were fired at him and did he kill the yankee who fired some of them. The war was horrible for both sides.

  • @sp0rkenste1n46
    @sp0rkenste1n46 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Civil War has always been one of my favorite subjects, and I haven't been to Gettysburg in years. I live about an hour away from the museum. I might have to plan a road trip this summer.

  • @kurtbarks6270
    @kurtbarks6270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never knew that the Southern States actually left the Union, voted to reincorporate as a separate nation and then faced invasion from a foreign nation - the United States. It wasn’t a “Civil War”. The Confederate states were already a separate nation. Thanks for your channel!

  • @greggarner4477
    @greggarner4477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely love your videos! I hve been to Gettysburg many times and still learn every time I turn around. Thank you