The enemy as tricked us, especially the black folks! Most other cultures get married much earlier. Right after college! Most WW have a ring by spring and most BW are left single because we have been taught incorrectly. We must do better! Thanks for having the conversation!
23:56 I love this topic! Love what y’all are saying. If we can keep it fully transparent, there are plenty of people, plenty of times who’ve done it God’s way & still ended in heartbreak. Megan & Devon Franklin. And others like me, who aren’t celebs. I think it’s imperative we focus on the fact that negativity does happen when following Christ & why it’s important to understand HOW we get through hardship with Christ & without. I’ve seen people who’ve done their relationships/marriages the worldly way… And they’re happy. Genuinely happy. I’ve received more heartbreak than them lol we have to be honest about the fact that sometimes worldly folk do “succeed” in married life. The point is what am I storing up in Heaven, when I’m doing it God’s way. THAT is the significance of doing it God’s way, regardless what it looks like. I have PLENTY real world examples of folks who are living beautiful lives & have done it culture’s way. I still won’t do it that way, but we’d be remiss to ignore that fact. And not tackling the proper things. If we try to say doing it culture’s way is always gonna render negativity, more than doing it God’s way, that’s simply not true; that’s not what a lot of us see in our day-to-day. I love that y’all go deeper into the significance & necessity of doing it God’s way.
I will agree to disagree. Anything and I do mean anything done or joined outside of God is bound to fail. Keep in mind the devil gives the illusion of IF you doing it the world’s way it’s ok and you’ll be ok but the devil is a lie. He’s the father of lies! How do you know that those people are truly happy? Do you live with them and see how they live and operate day in and day out from sun up til sun down? Marriages that fail that (supposedly were done God’s way) means something was missing and I’ll go out on a limb and say God was missing. Remember talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words so when or if your talk doesn’t match your walk then it will eventually show. It will eventually fail. It’s like the scripture where the man built his house on the sand versus on the rock. Jesus is the rock! Lastly, I am highly convinced that Devon Franklin did not listen to God. If he had he’d have chosen a godly wife IF he was truly a godly man. Look at all the celeb marriages falling by the wayside. Do you think they are truly doing it God’s way🤔 The divorce rate in the church is just as high as outside the church. Why? Because the church looks and lives just like the world. We must remember that God makes NO mistakes. He said what He JOINS together let no man put asunder. When we move ahead of God and outside His will we on our own. God is not responsible for the choices we make. He gave us all free will. We get to choose. We get to choose evil or good, life or death. The problem is we choose our will and not His will. Oftentimes we choose a spouse and God has not been consulted at all but when it all falls then we wanna pray 🙏🏾 and seek God for help. That’s backwards. Seek FIRST the Kingdom…. Marriage can and should work because it was God’s original plan and when we do it His way it’s truly the best way.
Dating is actually not a biblical concept. It’s a modern/worldly concept. I believe that’s why there’s no biblical directions or mandate on how to do it. God’s standard is and always will be marriage. He created. He ordained it. He is God and changes not. The bigger question is how do we get to marriage without all of the obstacles that typically prevent that from happening when marriage is not really the goal? God has not changed His mind on fornication. If marriage is the goal then can we get there without falling prey to the sin of fornication🤔 Self control is a fruit of the Spirit. It’s the last one listed but it’s an important one. I don’t believe God would command us to do or not do anything that He will not equip us to do. Obedience is better than sacrifice.
The guideline for dating is God’s word. Anything that would cause you or your brother or sister to struggle/ stumble in the walk with the Lord is unacceptable. The Bible says to “flee” from sexual immorality. That’s the one sin you don’t play with. Any sexual act: kissing, touching in a sensual manner, sexting, watching sexual content, sex of any form, even imagining these acts in your heart is in violation and counts as sexually immoral before God. What is the norm in the world is in direct contradiction to God’s standards and expectations. Do the exact opposite of the world is doing. Your behavior should be based on God’s, not on your flesh and what you want. Your flesh is your worst enemy. The devil is the second. If you are truly walking the Lord, you will know his will and because you live him, you will walk in obedience. Also, God never asks us to do something that he has not equipped us to do. So yes, it is possible to date the Godly way of both people make God their priority.
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The enemy as tricked us, especially the black folks! Most other cultures get married much earlier. Right after college! Most WW have a ring by spring and most BW are left single because we have been taught incorrectly. We must do better! Thanks for having the conversation!
23:56 I love this topic! Love what y’all are saying. If we can keep it fully transparent, there are plenty of people, plenty of times who’ve done it God’s way & still ended in heartbreak. Megan & Devon Franklin. And others like me, who aren’t celebs. I think it’s imperative we focus on the fact that negativity does happen when following Christ & why it’s important to understand HOW we get through hardship with Christ & without. I’ve seen people who’ve done their relationships/marriages the worldly way… And they’re happy. Genuinely happy. I’ve received more heartbreak than them lol we have to be honest about the fact that sometimes worldly folk do “succeed” in married life. The point is what am I storing up in Heaven, when I’m doing it God’s way. THAT is the significance of doing it God’s way, regardless what it looks like. I have PLENTY real world examples of folks who are living beautiful lives & have done it culture’s way. I still won’t do it that way, but we’d be remiss to ignore that fact. And not tackling the proper things. If we try to say doing it culture’s way is always gonna render negativity, more than doing it God’s way, that’s simply not true; that’s not what a lot of us see in our day-to-day. I love that y’all go deeper into the significance & necessity of doing it God’s way.
I will agree to disagree.
Anything and I do mean anything done or joined outside of God is bound to fail. Keep in mind the devil gives the illusion of IF you doing it the world’s way it’s ok and you’ll be ok but the devil is a lie. He’s the father of lies!
How do you know that those people are truly happy? Do you live with them and see how they live and operate day in and day out from sun up til sun down?
Marriages that fail that (supposedly were done God’s way) means something was missing and I’ll go out on a limb and say God was missing.
Remember talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words so when or if your talk doesn’t match your walk then it will eventually show. It will eventually fail.
It’s like the scripture where the man built his house on the sand versus on the rock.
Jesus is the rock!
Lastly, I am highly convinced that Devon Franklin did not listen to God. If he had he’d have chosen a godly wife IF he was truly a godly man.
Look at all the celeb marriages falling by the wayside. Do you think they are truly doing it God’s way🤔
The divorce rate in the church is just as high as outside the church. Why? Because the church looks and lives just like the world.
We must remember that God makes NO mistakes. He said what He JOINS together let no man put asunder.
When we move ahead of God and outside His will we on our own.
God is not responsible for the choices we make. He gave us all free will. We get to choose. We get to choose evil or good, life or death.
The problem is we choose our will and not His will. Oftentimes we choose a spouse and God has not been consulted at all but when it all falls then we wanna pray 🙏🏾 and seek God for help. That’s backwards. Seek FIRST the Kingdom….
Marriage can and should work because it was God’s original plan and when we do it His way it’s truly the best way.
“It’s you, him, and that baggage”
Dating is actually not a biblical concept. It’s a modern/worldly concept. I believe that’s why there’s no biblical directions or mandate on how to do it.
God’s standard is and always will be marriage.
He created. He ordained it. He is God and changes not.
The bigger question is how do we get to marriage without all of the obstacles that typically prevent that from happening when marriage is not really the goal?
God has not changed His mind on fornication.
If marriage is the goal then can we get there without falling prey to the sin of fornication🤔
Self control is a fruit of the Spirit. It’s the last one listed but it’s an important one.
I don’t believe God would command us to do or not do anything that He will not equip us to do. Obedience is better than sacrifice.
So much wisdom!!! This was amazing!
Well done
Great discussion
Thanks for your transparency
“We’re failing an open book test”
The two biggest areas Satan trips us up in as fallen sinful humans are
1. Sex
2. Money
The guideline for dating is God’s word. Anything that would cause you or your brother or sister to struggle/ stumble in the walk with the Lord is unacceptable. The Bible says to “flee” from sexual immorality. That’s the one sin you don’t play with. Any sexual act: kissing, touching in a sensual manner, sexting, watching sexual content, sex of any form, even imagining these acts in your heart is in violation and counts as sexually immoral before God. What is the norm in the world is in direct contradiction to God’s standards and expectations. Do the exact opposite of the world is doing. Your behavior should be based on God’s, not on your flesh and what you want. Your flesh is your worst enemy. The devil is the second. If you are truly walking the Lord, you will know his will and because you live him, you will walk in obedience. Also, God never asks us to do something that he has not equipped us to do. So yes, it is possible to date the Godly way of both people make God their priority.