I promise, this video belongs here
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- Does TH-cam feel different lately? Are you getting recommended content you're not interested in? Maybe even this video? Are you finding TH-cam Search to be a complete mess? Are you irritated and perhaps even frustrated with TH-cam's "algorithm?"
Well, you are not alone, and I have the answer and explanation to all of these concerns and questions. I'm dead serious. There's an explainable answer to all these issues, so let's get started.
Here are the chapters for this video. Feel free to jump around accordingly:
0:00 Introduction
1:38 Minor Ways TH-cam Feels Different
3:15 Major Ways TH-cam Feels Different
5:22 Creator Example 1
7:34 Creator Example 2
8:48 Why TH-cam Feels Different (The Facts)
11:48 What TH-cam Needs To Do
Note:
I deliberately leave the channel icons and video titles on each video for reference in case anyone wants to see the full videos featured in these documentaries. If anything is unclear, or for additional references, please reach out, and I will happily provide a link to any of the following content discussed, featured, or used as a b-roll in the video.
Copyright Note:
Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research.
Music:
All songs featured in the video are from:
- Epidemic Sound: share.epidemicsound.com/8mvwnm
- TH-cam's copyright free music library.
- Or some of Ian Taylor's incredible music. Please check out his music on Spotify if you are into that style. I cannot emphasize enough how good the music is.
=-=-=-=
Creators note:
Hello, my name is Zackary Smigel. I've been creating TH-cam videos since I was a kid. I started TH-cam full-time about five years ago. You might have seen me from Real Estate License Wizard, where I obtained 60,000 subscribers and over 5 million channel views. I have since left that channel for creative pursuits, and this is my first crack at starting something new. I'd appreciate a like and subscribe if this content interests you and I captured your attention for even just a few moments.
This is my tenth video essay using this style and format. Over the last 10 videos I have learned a lot. This video, was a bit different than my others. This is a bit more of a controversial topic and I was a bit hesitant to make this video so we'll see! Hopefully you guys enjoy.
Thanks so much for watching,
Zackary Smigel
#youtube #videoessay #zackarysmigel
=-=-=-=
Don’t forget to like and subscribe for more engaging video essays and commentary!
=-=-=-=
I want TH-cam to recognize that just because I engage with travel content, it doesn’t mean I no longer want to see video essays and cooking videos. It’s like the algorithm thinks you can’t have more than one interest at the same time.
Interesting, I thought it was just my watching habits that caused that effect because I do tend to focus on one thing at a time but maybe it’s a TH-cam thing too
XD for real, even autistic people (as I am) have more than just one single interest lol
it's like i look up a single video about sleep ambiance and my whole feed now is just riddled with sleep bowls and meditation stuff like STOP bro omg. i watch an ann rearden video and all my stuff is now cooking. relax a little bit!
instagram has this issue too and it annoys the hell out of me
YES!! The only time I actually get the videos I want is if I'm on a channel dedicated to just one thing. 2 at the most. If you're interested in more than 1-2 things, TH-cam just stops working and video vomits at you.
It's odd because I have so many interests and YT does recommend me a little of them all.
But, unlike you, I can switch from space actuality to let's play on Nintendo games to video essay about sociology, or series review and analysis, back to space science and all of this within an hour or even less.
So I do hope that YT gives me several recommendations, even of games I never heard about or about a science I haven't studied yet.
Though, I admit I regularly have to actively search for the kind of content I feel like watching. It's only natural though, algorithms can't know what I have in mind right now. Lucky me!
This guy hacked the algorithm just to tell us how the algorithm sucks. He's a genius.
lol
He was showing youtube logo a lot, maybe youtube machine learning picks it up and then marks it as "good video"
Hahaha I thought the same thing. He knows how whack TH-cam is so we'll, that he showed in our feeds and started with "you probably have no idea who I am and why my video was recommended to you"
His right though, it's fantastic small channels are being recommended, I've said that to a few people. I reckon the algorithm is just so complex the code needs to be tweaked
Ikr? The other videos come not even close to this amount of views
he works for the shadow government
I'm definitely experiencing this. It also seems like youtube's "memory" is getting bad; I have watched a large variety of content, predominately targeted towards young people. Recently, though, I've been watching a few embroidery and sewing videos. TH-cam seems to have forgotten everything about me and mistaken me for an elderly lady! a few videos out of the ordinary and know I can't find anything else I'm in to. And I'm getting ads for makeup that look good on wrinkly skin (so old people), even though I'm a teenager!
Getting ads on wrinkly skin is CRAZY
I've recently noticed youtube isn't tracking my Account and my Wife's separately... I'm getting her favorite channels recommended, and she's getting mine. Also, I get ads based on what she's been shopping for.
Some people might think that's creepy, but I'm just annoyed at the usability impact: If I want to watch that stuff, I'll log in with my wife and we'll watch it together. Save the screen space!
This is only getting worse over time too. I feel like especially lately I've been spending more time scrolling on YT than watching videos. Getting the same recommendations, seeing things I've already watched (but without showing it??), and lately getting a lot of videos with a max of 100 views with bad quality content. I enjoy the low-stakes variety that comes with YT, I don't really like watching shows or movies as much. Not sure what to do at this point. (yes I searched this video cuz it was getting that bad and to make sure im not crazy)
I feel the same way about this site now. I used to have real variety and it had helped me be more creative and learn more actively than I am now. I still love YT for content over any other platform but a lot of the good OG content is no longer correct or acceptable. Caused me to scroll for good videos, but it's a habit I have from years of being able to find new interesting content in a space where that doesn't even happen anymore. Like have you refreshed the page and it only rearranges the recommendations slightly? Honestly it's infuriating what it has become 😒
One of my main issues with TH-cam more recently is that I'm scared to click on a random video that interests me, because then it will be all I'm recommended for weeks.
Ha ha, whatever you do, DO NOT click on a 'funny/cute animals' vid, or you'll be doomed for all eternity with vids of that topic ha ha
That's why I had to create sub channel for music listening. Luckily it's so easy to switch subchannels by clicking top right corner.
Oh it's so true. . .
Yeah I searched fantasy music playlists for when I’m reading or going to sleep and now almost every video in my recommended is just that. Same with scam-baiting videos, I watch tons of other things but when I started getting back into them they were taking up my recommended after only watching a couple of them.
Add an account!
Another thing the algorithm is doing that annoys me a little is it only shows me stuff I've been into recently. I tend to go through phases, so it'd be nice if it at least factored overall watch history in a bit instead of just assuming my latest interest is now my only interest forever until I manually search out other things I like again/specifically choose from my subscribed tab.
I know right, every time I watch something I usually don't watch half my recommendations are suddenly filled with adjacent content.
I simply "remind" youtube of my former preference by searching for my former favorite vid's and calling them up for viewing. It usually takes a few times before the algorithm gets the hint.
Yes! This is sooo f* annoying. Like we’ve all turned into one track minded cyclops
MOOOOOOOD
Exactly! All those channels I subbed to and been meaning to go back to but don't remember the name of are just... gone forever, until my peabrain remembers one of their old videos and finds them again based on that.
I have no idea why this was recommended but I agree. The search not letting me strictly search the subject is honestly infuriating and has our family thinking of cancel our TH-cam premium plan. TH-cam has been getting worse since around 2017, I remember they changed the home page and the way subscriptions work and how they show content. I am super sad, wish things would get back to the way they were when TH-cam was in its earlier years
I actually searched why TH-cam is getting boring and I got your video, whatever points you mentioned are absolutely relatable and correct!
Sammmmeww
same.
I have literally never seen this man before in my life but he's spitting straight fire facts.
Same.
Fr
I am crazy though
i never saw this man before, until TH-cam decided to put him on my front page as a recommended video.
(I am thankful for it and watched a couple of his videos, it's interesting fun content, thanks TH-cam, you did something right for once👍🏻)
The algorithm has summoned us all here and here we are.... is the algorithm god? (Pls don't respond like I am being serious)
I completely agree. TH-cam has become constraining and instead of feeling free to explore content I’m actually interested in, I’m seeing only a small selection of what TH-cam thinks I like. Very annoying.
Not to forget, getting the MSM shoved in your face, like with videos from CNN, NBC, FOX or HuffPo getting pushed on top, but the *independent* voices and independent smaller news channels getting almost *no* fraction or exposure when searching.
@@eternity8811 Did you even watch the video..? The search results suck
It seems so strange that TH-cam does not allow each person to determine their own path. I suspect the constraints of TH-cam cannot handle the full accommodation of everyone being free to choose their own path. TH-cam search algorithm would probably greatly break down.
It's why I think giving capitalists unchecked power over such an important piece of media is a really bad idea.
I think there should be government regulations by the EU and US to set standards, improve transparancy and maybe combat some of the bad incentives. The important thing though is that they need to be regulations for youtube, not for youtube users.
it's true you try to find one thing and then it gives a million other things not even relevant to what you're trying to find
My biggest beef right now is keeping the videos or programs I've watched reposted WITHOUT the red line under them to show I've already watched them !!! If it's within the last month I can usually remember I've watched them. I find it extremely frustrating and a waste of my time !!! As for watching YOUR video, I specifically watched it in hopes you would be a legit source of information and was not disappointed. I am 70 years old, consider myself computer literate, and watch a lot of videos on new trends, subject matter, and interest of the younger people to help me understand their generational culture and give me a better understanding of conversations I have with neighbor kids, great grand nephews/nieces, etc. I realize my age group isn't your target range, but your posts do help tremendously in understanding younger minds, their slang, abbreviations, etc. Thanks so much.
you're a legend, thank you
Just go and delete your watch history. Algorithm will forget everything about you. You will start life from scratch 😊
Thank you so much for explaining this - I keep hitting „do not recommend“ on certain channels or „not interested“ when the video deals with a specific content I do not care for and yet, this action seems to have the opposite effect.
There‘s only so many „restocking videos“ you need to watch in your existense as a Marine to start despairing about certain carriers of various diseases.
I don‘t care how someone else cleans their bathroom, but it‘s still almost the only thing on my front page.
The worst offender must have been a video a few days ago, where a young woman was trying to decide how to part her hair.
oh god, yeah me to im so SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND TIRED MASHED THAT FUNCTIONS 😢😢😕😕
I'm so tired of apps trying to be like other apps. I don't want shorts from TH-cam. I want TH-cam from TH-cam, if I want TikTok then I want TikTok. Keeping it separately encourages me to use each app MORE because they're DIFFERENT. I don't want to go everywhere and see the same thing. I'm glad I came across this video, this makes so much sense now.
Yeah it’s annoying. It’s become especially cancerous this year and a bit and I just want to drop it all more than I ever have
Agreed. They are teenagers with identity crisis, and all wanting to become like each other when they are perfectly fine who they are.
but for the sake of storage, i think it's better for it to be all in one app...
Therein lie the rub, though. You and I may want different apps for different things, but companies want you on their things forever.
TH-cam wants you on TH-cam and nothing else (or, barring that, at least some other product owned by daddy Google).
TikTok wants you only on TikTok.
Facebook only on Facebook.
Unfortunately, viewers and creators are diametrically opposed to companies on this front.
exactly!
Personally the worst aspect of it for me is that sometimes you’ll find one of these random videos interesting so you watch that one video and then suddenly for ages the algorithm thinks that niche is your favourite thing and will fill your entire page with similar videos even if you never click on them and aren’t still interested in the subjects or content types
Yea it’s usually viral type videos that almost anyone would be curious about. But it’s like rubbernecking an accident.. of course you want to look, but realize that if you force yourself to look forward, you’ll waste less time on something irrelevant. All you can do now is delete it from your watch history
yeah i've had the same issue at times
Agreed!
A few days ago, I watched a TH-camr who was reviewing 3 games in my favorite video game franchise across 3 separate videos. I didn’t watch any other videos by this TH-camr, and I was only interested in watching them because they were about a niche game franchise that I love. Yesterday I counted ELEVEN videos in a row unrelated to that franchise by that same creator in my recommended videos on the side of another video completely unrelated to that creator or that game franchise. I would understand if it was one or two videos spread out to try to gauge if my interest in that channel is more than just that one game franchise, but 11 videos in a row is insane. TH-cam really needs to fix their algorithm…
what's particularly baffling and distressing to me, is that i can manually select videos i DON'T want youtube to show me, submitting the reason "I DONT LIKE THIS VIDEO" and i KEEP getting videos on the same topic! (ie serial child killer news pieces). it's legit traumatising to see those headlines. yet creators can't say certain generic words or they get demonetized. their algorithms are fucking appalling.
Just got this pushed today. Never heard of you, but it did answer a question of "why is youtube burying the stuff I want and flooding me with crap?" I will now probably get flooded with other random crap I don't want.
yep me too, wtf is this guy,?? and why did he end up on my feed, lol😅😅😂😂
i actually searched up this video, im doing an essay about how youtube is falling off, and searching for this video is exactly how you described it, it really helped me
Explains why TH-cam has felt so bland to me lately. I open it, see a bunch of content I don’t really care about, and give up. It feels like a chore to watch TH-cam now more than ever. Not to even mention the terrible search function. All these content platforms keep sterilizing themselves to be more marketable and it’s ruining them. On the bright side, this social media apocalypse is making me want to pick up a book instead for once.
Choose the book. I'm trying too.
It's because you're not interested not some platform wide issue
The search function isn't even giving me results of the words I actually searched. I just get my recommended videos which have nothing to do with the search
Completely in the same place.
@@effbar2400it’s def a user wide problem if it isn’t a platform centered problem. But many people say these things so I don’t think it’s limited to tht individual
I feel like irrelevant stuff is being forced on me. You came to me randomly. It's like the the algorithm sensed my frustration and you were there to explain. I am old - not your target demographic. I mainly look at ecology, agricultural, and biology topics. But as soon as you don't resist an impulse to watch some comedian you get a firehose of comedy. It's hard to get back on course. Your critique is spot on.
I've noticed this as well. I watch one video on a topic that I wanted to at and only at that moment in time, and the TH-cam decides that that is my entire personality.
Haha, yes! i once watched a video of birds splashing about in a bird bath and before I knew it all my recommended videos were of birds bathing in a bird bath. They weren't even a variety of birds but all the exact same ones, lol!
Ha! Agreed! I watch “Canadian Prepper”
@@DevonExplorer We put on a "cat entertainment" video, where it's just birds and squirrels and whatnot in the forest to entertain our cats for a little bit. Well, because we searched for it and watched it for 15 minutes, that's now half my suggestions.
No kidding. The algorithm is embarrassingly-bad now. Multi-billion $ company that lets childish minds authorize downgrades to the ML. There is not a single executive at youtube, and probably precious few at "Alphabet" above them who deserves to be in any leadership position. Can you imagine an actual, educated, mature adult saying "Yeah, once they've watched one video, lets show that same video again and again in their feed even though they never click on it ever again? Good grief. Google needs a shareholder revolt. @@Maybe_a_monkey_on_a_computer
Totally agreed with you. Why did youtube keep showing me the videos I have watched? Why can't youtube showing me some content in the niche I am interested in, etc...
1.Yes, this video randomly on my page
2.Yes, somehow, my favorite creators and niche ...gone? Only very few
3.The best algo is TH-cam music apps on Android, from "maybe i just pick 3"...end up 50 my fav bands/genres selected.
4.New algo mimic TT, where "everyone have a chance to be on fyp", this is better for small creators, they have a chance to compete and might gain interest from different demography.
TH-cam just feels stagnant. I feel like I can't actually find new things because it either recommends things I've already seen, people I'm subscribed to that I'll watch anyway, or stuff that is completely irrelevant to my interests. No matter what it just feels like I'm going in a loop.
For context of how I got here though, I'm pretty sure I was recommended this because I always watch similar videos. So even with this, youtube still isn't giving me new things to explore that would broaden what I find interesting.
I've been having the same problem. I've been trying to use the "New to You" tab to find new content, but the option to go there doesn't even reliably show up on mobile, and when it does the feed is never more than 20 videos.
You described the main problem perfectly
And the default shit they give people to explore is NOT IT at all.
My problem is that it seems to mainly recommend content you’ve watched very recently. For example if I binge watched TH-cam videos about movies for an entire month I’d only be getting recommendations about movie videos or random stuff I’m not interested in.
Then let’s say I watch videos about dogs for one week and take a break from movie content, it will then act like it completely forgot I like movie content or any of the movie people I subscribed to and just start only recommending me dog videos. It’s annoying because it seems to want to keep you on a loop of just watching the same content you are watching continuously.
Then you get on a TH-cam and just see the same videos and type of videos over and over when TH-cam used to frequently show you topics you used to watch to see if you wanted to start watching them again or show you people you’re subscribed to but haven’t watched in a while.
It seems like you’re cut off from everything now other than what you’re currently watching and seemingly completely random videos you’ve never showed interest in.
Used to id get on TH-cam see someone I haven’t watched in a while and say “oh yeah I need to start watching them again”. Now that never happens unless I happen to remember them or scroll all the way through my subscribed list.
I found a good solution is to have an alt account and just watch some of the videos that you normally watch. Usually the reccomendation after a bit is a bit spicy. Igcognito also works pretty well.
i thought i was crazy at first. now i know otherwise. im glad some small channels are recommended to me though cause i found two people who deserve way more support.
I've recently been recommended some travel videos from some aunties and picture collages from older folks, and honestly it's way better than what I was watching before 😂
Crazy? I was crazy once.
@@ofskittlezCrazy? I was crazy once. They put me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy.
They locked me in a rubber room. Rubber room with rats. Rats make me crazy
Fr, TH-cam's been recommending me some interesting channels recently.
A couple of days ago it recommended me two gay furry let's players. Honestly, pretty good channel
It's videos like this that makes me happy TH-cam offers me random videos from people I have never heard of before.
Confirmed popped up out of nowhere. Yes TH-cam recommendations has been "off" so to speak for about a year as you said. Also I noticed TH-cam has started mixing in ads in the normal home page feed as if they are regular videos from a content creator, which is really annoying and you have to be careful so you don't click anything by mistake.
I serious can't believe that more people aren't talking about this. Not only do youtube recommendations suck but google results are all screwed up now too and i feel like NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT IT
Yep google is absolute trash now unless the result you're looking for is one of the top 3 or 4 results.... It's crazy
@@River_YT and no one is talking about it. I literally can’t find most of the things I look for now and most other search engines just mirror google
Please turn it back
People talk about it and TH-cam ignores them. They have done it with ads, with dislikes and now with a shitty system. The issues is that the latter might actually be a change that actively hurts them as it will probably decrease time within the platform
@@strange-universeI thought they had to at least go off of some sort of research.
It seems so strange that TH-cam does not allow each person to determine their own path. I suspect the constraints of TH-cam cannot handle the full accommodation of everyone being free to choose their own path. TH-cam search algorithm would probably greatly break down.
Actually, I'm frustrated with TH-cam more for the opposite reason... it is VERY difficult to break out of any sort of echo chamber you've knowingly or unknowingly created for yourself.
Agreed. I found a new interest, watched that and only that on TH-cam for a few weeks, and now I'm barely recommended anything else and literally have to search generic terms to find broader content.
Searches 1 video about a motorcycle. Now every short an recommended something with motorcycle
yes!!
@Doomvega this kinda happens to me, sometimes lol
Me and smosh videos rn
I didn't get this recommended, I was just so fed up and irritated that I searched for this!
TH-cam search and it's recommendations both are a mess!!
I love video essays, multi hour long videos, outlandish movie and show theories, but I haven't been getting any of those. No video essays, longest videos cap at 22 minutes, and no theories. You are the first video in weeks that actually caught my interest and held my attention the entire video, and I am so greatful! Glad I'm not crazy, and glad I found you
I knew I wasn't crazy and finding something interesting in TH-cam was being a massive struggle
This Gentleman man says He wants to be suggested to people in the same space as him. For Me if want to find small or new music production channels just do targeted search select Release date as Today, and there you go you will find every new producer's channel that exists. I think people need to use there brains.
The only part of TH-cam’s algorithm that I hate is that when I’m watching a video, the recommended videos underneath it are now completely UNRELATED to the video that I’m watching, and those videos are basically the exact same videos I would just see in my home feed
OR they recommend stuff you’ve already seen???
I usually use TH-cam for work and my content basically should relate to that as I'm keeping myself more productive engaging with such content everyday even for a bit. BUT the only exception of "unrelated" content under videos that I watch is honestly... Cats lol. Short, uplifting and no pressure 😂
Absolutely!
Now it's way more hard to find the next episode of a let's play series so it's basically mandatory to find the playlist.
And similarly if I want more videos from the channel I'm watching they won't be recommended if they aren't a large channel.
@@Rose_Haw exactly
Just speculation, but I wonder if that change was made to stop people going down some of the conspiracy theory or far-right rabbit holes that used to be a huge problem. I remember there being a lot of concerns that the recommendeds would skew people deeper and deeper down these dark places and it was doing a lot of damage.
Thanks for this video. I just got recommended your video today out of the blue. I'm experiencing all the issues you have raised, including getting recommendations that have nothing to do with subjects I'm interested in. I'm in Australia and speak English yet my News tab is filled with news channels from a different country each day - none of them in English. When I deliberately search for a particular issue, it is often difficult to find anything useful in the results. Not a huge fan of the shorts. Don't use TikTok and don't need the YT version in my feed.
Imagine the content you want to watch is still being uploaded, it's just not showing up on the homepage anymore...
The one that annoyed me the most is the fact that I would search a video that I KNOW EXISTS and then YT would suggest 3 random videos then give me some "for you" videos like... whaaa? I'm glad this video got big and arrived to my recommends. You deserve it.
Fr and then it straight up turns into liveleak
Use new pipe for searching
@@randomdude2540 what’s that?
I can confirm this video randomly popped in my feed without me having ever visited your channel, at least it was one of the extremely rare actually interesting recommendations
Same
Same
Agreed, most recommendations are dogwater nowadays on this site.
@@kristinebailey6554actually I searched for it but im goad got this recommende
Same
I searched youtube to find a video about how bad their search is and this was the only one that had enough relevance to click because youtube is SO GODDAMN BAD AT THEIR OWN JOB
They can't possibly know what is inside the box, but they can change the box itself for a different box.
I’ve definitely found it harder to find videos I’m interested in. I feel like TH-cam used to be really on point at recommending videos I’ll like. Now it just feels… stale. You explained why really well.
I have definitely felt a difference in the past months..
About half a year ago, i thought my algorithm was perfect, i had so much fun watching TH-cam.
But nowdays it's like tiktok and twitter, a few bangers in the beginning, and then just endless doomsurfing in hopes of the right content.
I am so glad that I'm not alone, this video was also amazing and very informative.
Thanks❤
Funny, opposite of my experience. My algorithm was perfect about 5 years ago, and it progressively got worse and worse, to the point where 6 months ago my page was filled with exact same channels and topics. I would scroll for 10 minutes until giving up and doing something else. Today it is still far from golden times, but gradually gets better. Almost as if we both could have the best of two worlds if youtube added recommendation settings, one showing similar content to what you watch, and the other exposing you to something new and unrelated.
Holy shit same man hours of scrolling fr
Mid - late 2018 is when things went to shit. Since then I will get 3 videos relevant to the search I just did, and then the rest of the results are page after page of Linus Tech Tips.
Yeah 100% Agreed. I just tend to scroll for a while before I find more content I actually want to watch,,
Same I noticed that youtube just stopped recommending me pc/old tech videos because I like watching those and think they're fun and interesting. Then just nothing despite me watching so many of these videos. Content creators I used to watch every other day just stopped showing up and then I'd go weeks or months not knowing they were still making new stuff constantly
I am constantly clicking "don't recommend channel" and "I don't like the video" on things I have no interest in.
100% correct, and TH-cam needs to not only WATCH this, but IMPLEMENT your suggestions!
One of the most annoying things I’ve come across lately is the ridiculous word censorship that’s getting channels flagged. It’s honestly getting out of hand.
Creators now have to say “unalived” or “deleted” instead of “murdered” or committed “suicide”. Changing the agreed upon word doesn’t change the meaning.
If we can’t have a conversation with “scary” words in them that, often times are blocked without any context, it really takes the value out of the content.
I'm unalive 💀
Some of those word-alternates started on TikTok to evade automated censors, but then they became a legitimate part of the lexicon across the web.
@@hovhadovah how do u bleach ur skeleton? Its pearly white 🤤
@@hovhadovah go touch wheat u bubonic plague
That's not a actual issue. No one has actually been demonitized for saying killed. Their just being safe since it's a issue on tik tok
I'm glad other people are feeling this way. Search feels useless. Recommendations is full of stuff I've already seen. It feels like it's getting harder and harder to discover new content.
I feel the same way about Spotify. It's the same, over and over again. Instagram has the same "narrow view" thing, plus a lot of ads. Reddit is the only social media where i feel i discover some new stuff, but they are riddled with repost bots too.
@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist4 Maybe the content was the bibles sold along the way?
Or can we talk about how it will recommend you the same video over and over that you haven't clicked because you are not interested in? I wasn't interested the first time, I promise I won't be interested the 20th either.
Oh absolutely! Even if you go to the "New To You" tab it gives stuff that you've skipped over before. Take a hint, TH-cam! lol@@fluteoboe101
@@fluteoboe101 youtube manages to show the same video over and over or very similar ones that I've specifically marked that I am not interested in
ironically youtube's recommendation of this video was great cause I watch a lot of video essays
TH-cam used to be incredibly addictive to binge and always interesting. Lately,I find like 3 or 4 videos and then idk what to watch :/ Im even struggling to influence the algorithm to give me what I DO want by actively seeking it out. Whatever they changed is just awful right now
Perfect summation
I would suggest that many of you spend too much time on TH-cam and somehow expect there to be an unlimited quantity of videos that you will find interesting.
Even within a niche that you like, most of the content is not good or at best mediocre.
You're basically expecting an endless amount of high quality content for free, 7 days a week for however many years you've been watching YT - which simply doesn't exist.
Perhaps a better solution would be to stop whining about this fact and go and actually do something, instead of looking at videos.
I actually sort of like that the algorithm sucks, so that people don't spend as much time in the app
Nailed the problem down PERFECTLY!
@@thealexanderbondI would suggest not pulling assumptions out of your ass.
I thought I was crazy for losing interest in TH-cam over the last year or so. Mind you, I have been consuming content on this platform for as long as I can remember. Back then it felt like I could load up the homepage and instantly find 3-4 videos that I would gladly watch to burn time. Now it feels like a schlep to find something worthwhile.
Thanks for explaining, I hope they bring back the old TH-cam.
I don't use the homepage, I stick to my subscription feed, and if I must look for something new I use search. The homepage is where the algorithm lives and I find it chaotic af.
Yeah sometimes it feels like TH-cam doesn’t want you to use it. I remember scrolling through my homepage and seeing nothing but 10 second memes or clips from tv. None of my subscriptions
I've found, that if I don't see something interesting in the first half-page, or so... It's going to be less interesting the farther I scroll. About once a month, a 'really random' suggestion will really hit with me. But, it is rare that the algorithm serves me anything that rises to 'must watch'. Sometimes, I click on that oddball suggestion that I've seen suggested 50 times, just to get it off my homepage.
The question should be, to which old TH-cam are you referring? The app has gone through so many iterations.
literally! i would have so many internal battles of what to watch next, and now it’s a blessing if i even open youtube anymore
Big problem with search results "for you" / "you might also like" is how they insert random junk - no search match whatsoever! - kinda like gratuitous irrelevant twitter ad every 6 screens.😡
Found this video by chance. Agreed, TH-cam has deteriorated recently in several ways. I’m just a viewer and my personal gripe is that it appears to be impossible to remove any of the tidal wave of music mixes suggested.
In the spirit of scientific research, confirming your video got recommended to me out of the blue. I ignored it for many days...finally watched it. I still have no idea why it got recommended to me based on content I usually watch, but I found your explanation useful and informative. Thanks, hope this helps and best wishes for reaching your monetization goals.
Same, actually saw it refuse to go away on my husband's account and came and looked it up on my own, we normally watch yt through our ps5
This has been very reoccurring as well - refreshing the main youtube page does absolutely nothing. If there's a video uploaded in the past week that I haven't watched from a creator I'm subscribed to, it's going to stay in the top suggestions. Refreshing the page just shuffles the order they're in, sometimes. It's like youtube is literally telling me "These are your only options. Pick one."
@@AmazingRofa spam?
Same here.
Yup, same. I actually only watched this now because I got the "TH-cam Ad Problem" video recommended and decided to watch that one, just to realize it's from the same creator as this video which had parked in my recommended for several days, but which I had ignored (I can say now tho, it's a good video!). Usually, when I'm really getting annoyed by a video staying rent-free in my recommended, I eventually tell TH-cam that I'm not interested in the video and it goes away.
One thing I really hate, is how the algorithm tries to force short-form videos down my throat. I rarely watch anything less than 20 min, but it keeps recommending shorts and 2 min videos.
YES AGREE!!!!
This! Then when u give in to them harassing us to watch shorts, they repeat the same shit in specific loops.
Hmmm, I'm the opposite, I get mad if the video is more than 15 minutes lol. Interesting to see the opposite side of the spectrum.
Yes! I’m trying to find something interesting and educationalish to put on while I do chores or something similar to keep my interest but recently it’s been like 9 min videos than I have to jump to another ruining my flow
I agree so much with this. Most of the channels I used to enjoy the most have shut down, cause the algorithm didn't like them doing slow paced 40+ min long videos, so they got pushed down and were never shown on the homepage. Some of them I only found out they were shut down, after actively going looking for them, finding that they kept posting videos that I never got to see and in the end they gave up the fight and shut down.
it is so frustrating.
And Instagram is doing the same shit, shoving "Reels" down my throat instead of showing me what I have told them time and time again that I want to see. And since what i post the most are black and white ink drawings, I don't tick any of the "cool" boxes for vibrant colours or reel content, so my subscribers don't even see what I post.
I searched youtube for "youtube algorithm repetitive" and you came up as one of the hits.
This video came up on my home page out of nowhere, but the cover picture intrigued me so here I am, answering your question. One thing that you mentioned is something that was happening *all the time* - for maybe 5 days, three weeks ago: Videos I had watched - even watched the day before - showing up in the recommendations. These were almost all videos from a single channel - USCSB. My interests are eclectic - politics, sovereign citizen traffic stops and court appearances, Karens, crocheting, Reddit readers, several kinds of non-current music, Godzilla movies..... and others that aren't coming into my head just now. My home page seems to focus on a few of the topics I've watched most frequently in recent days, odd suggestions (sometimes good ones!), and a lot of things related to something I looked at yesterday. Today I had a Tarot card reader I looked at last night and "help you sleep" stuff. They haven't shown me things from the Polish guy who cleans rugs (ASMR) in at least a couple of months, even though I'm subscribed. (That's okay, though.) I hope this information is useful to you in your research.
Ive been refreshing my youtube feed like three times every time i wanted to watch something today because everything felt so disconnected from what I like and then I saw this thumbnail and I felt a cosmic connection with the rest of humanity instantly (and yeah i do love video essays on internet culture)
Fr I feel like the algorithm completely disregards my actual interests and just give me random nonsense it's obvious I'm not going to watch while suppressing people I actually WANT to watch. For instance, I'm not subscribed to Wendigoon since I don't watch too many of his videos, but I used to get recommended his videos anyways. Now, I legit thought he hasn't posted in almost a year because I'm no longer getting recommended his videos. But based on what I watch, even if I never watched him, I still watch people in his area of expertise, so I should still be getting recommendations of him. It's wild.
I'm happy I don't seem to have gotten this change yet. My recommended is still normal. I have noticed the search being shit though.
Yes, I keep getting videos that I’ve never had anything to do with or had any interest in or videos that I used to watch. For example Danny Gonzalez, I really don’t watch him and don’t WANT to watch him. I don’t really like his content so it’s pretty annoying when he keeps popping up. There’s also Mr. Beast (used to watch) and this one video about how North Korea is inescapable now. I really don’t care about any of them so it frustrates me when I’m trying to find a good video to watch.
exactly what i did
I know right! I've never had this problem In the past but now it feels like refreshing is just a step to finding a relevant video
Completely agree -- this video hits the nail on the head. Anecdotally I find myself scrolling longer, being less interested, and often just switching to other platforms. Video recommendations don't seem to update nearly as frequently as they once did, and often my homepage looks very similar day-to-day. The "algorithm" nowdays seems to just ignore my watch patterns, and focus on irrelevant ones.
Yes! I've been getting that old TV feeling of "ugh.. There's nothing on."
Same - I hate that the same videos just sit on my recommended page for ages. It used to be so good at recommending things I'm interested in and keeping it fresh :(
I think search has always been pretty meh, but the new algorithm I think is actually a step in the right direction. I've been using TH-cam since around 2009 as my main form of media, and I am enjoying that this new algorithm is recommending me videos with less views. There was a period where it would only show me popular videos in my niches, but now I'm getting recommended videos from very small creators.
half the time my homepage is filled with videos that I have already watched
Whatever stops me accidentally watching one video and being bombarded with the same c**p as if it was my favorite thing ever
This video was on my page randomly, BUT I'm glad it was because I'm happy I've discovered your content 😊
Absolutely out of nowhere mate
What is driving me nuts is that when I scroll on my phone TH-cam records every pause as something I watched, even if I only spent the amount of time it took me to move my finger. Later when I go through my history all of those channels are recorded as watched. Lovely-I now have a hundred videos to scroll through as I try and find the video I did watch and want to watch again or share with someone. I never thought about what it might be doing to some creator's analytics.
You can turn that off in your settings. It's called something along the lines of "preview," if I remember correctly.
Thanks@@Aunt-Rachel
You can delete videos from your watch history.
Is that why I sometimes see videos in my feed that have a piece of the red bar highlighted red as if watched (some of) it, but have never even seen the thumbnail or title in my life?
I used to get sucked into TH-cam rabbit holes late at night but that doesn’t happen anymore. I feel like I’m constantly looking for content to watch but have a hard time finding new creators to watch. I’ve seen the exact same videos being recommended to my 6 year old niece and she watches Roblox videos and I watch mostly commentary. Somethings broken and I’m kinda ready to take a break from TH-cam all together
I am interested in internet culture so TH-cam did hit the nail on the head with this recommendation.
Exactly the same here, I watch documentary style content and I get the same random stuff as my sister's recommended, it's even the same as stuff on a brand new account
I first noticed that first with Shorts, when there became actual creators from TikTok flocking to the platform instead of just phone clips from a decade ago and little kids recording themselves or their TV screen. Now even my front page looks almost like when I’m signed out…
yt now has more ads than regular tv. it is ever so much fun watching the exact same ad on every video.
YT keeps getting more odd. I get few recommended video’s that interest me. This video is spot on!
This video is so meta. I can easily assume Zack had no idea it would do this well, but the algorithm did exactly what he described and put his video at the forefront of all of our pages because we, the people, hit the like button and interacted with it. The irony of this video landing on so many peoples pages that it has now amassed 1,000,000+ views is astounding. Kudos to you, Zackary.
My thoughts exactly!!!!! 😂👌
came here to say that lol, algo has become sentient, and it has a sense of irony XD
I was conned, and I'm okay with it
Absolutely peak banger irony and LOVE it! :D
It was literally the first video on my yt homepage when i opened it today
I feel like YT has become a video essay factory. I love video essays (including this one). But less and less do I see creative new formats.
Nah. Most videos on my recommend are not essays. Probably depends on what it's showing you.
@@alephnulI I do feel like most of the valueful recommendations for me are longer form content. It feels more and more like the algorithm is incentivizing videos towards a few lengths: less than 2 minutes (clips, simple one note sketches, etc.), 25-30 minutes, and 50+ minutes, very much including multi-hour long videos. The world of 8-15 minute videos feels like it's shrinking, and sorta makes it feel like each video either takes meaningful commitment (especially the 50+ minute ones), or are so bite-sized that they don't leave a lasting impression and I just get booted back into the video choosing cycle too soon.
@@friedkeenan I prefer to watch very long videos. I often use TH-cam for background noise while working, or I watch classes in it that are over an hour long. I never get recommended videos bellow 5min, and whenever the shorts tab comes back, I click the X and it disappears again. I do get a lot of 8 to 16min videos and I don't enjoy them as much so I don't click them, most of what I watch is longer and I do get a lot of 25min to 50min recommended, as well as a lot of videos that are several hours long. Usually they're podcasts, or people telling stories, or people chatting, streams, news format. I get essays as well, but most of them aren't essays.
i love video essays as well, specifically gaming essays, but finding genuinely interesting and creative essays is definetly harder than it used to be. i generally find the most creative channels through suggestion from friends or recommendations from bigger creators. the most interesting channels are never recommended by TH-cam itself which continues to push videos that are barely related to a video i saw 3 years ago.
@@friedkeenan I identified this recently when talking with someone about how the intros that so many videos used to have have largely faded entirely over the last few years, with longer form content usually doing unique video-specific introductions rather than the classic intro a channel might use on every video, very short form content dropping intros entirely, and only some 25-30 minute videos retaining that older style of intros.
However when the intros are retained they're now shorter and sometimes placed later after an 'intro clip' from the video's main content in order to grab attention, with the classic intro instead serving as a dividing slide between the 'hook' and the actual content.
I think it's a sign of how TH-cam videos are generally made to a higher quality these days and are more refined and optimised for viewer retention and their target demographics.
Video just popped up this morning... I had not heard of you before but I am not sad - great content and presentation. Will definitely check out more of your content - Thanks...
Anyone remember the days when you could go down rabbit holes in the suggestions of a video you watched?
Now you’d just be going in circles.
I've been really really really really really really irritated with TH-cam. Everytime I watch something once, they send it to my page with a flood of other content from the same creator. They Drown me with certain stuff I am NOT inquiring about & totally ignore other things I look up. I don't research as much on TH-cam anymore because it's just to time consuming clearing out all the content triggered by one article. It's always the dark stuff, too. Never the lighter subjects. Super disappointing because computer technology was supposed to stimulate our curiosity, NOT limit us to dark corners and force us to shut down our inquiries due to freaky algorithms. Depressing.
Bread and circuses.
The powers that be do not want us asking questions or finding answers, they want us enmeshed and engorged with bull dinky.
We need to enmesh our would-be owners with the dirt. Only solution.
And that will only lead to new owners... Bad actors are perennial like weeds.
Did you know you can delete videos from your watch history? Also you can research in an incogneto window.
I accidentally clicked on a video about serial killers, i had to go and delete it from my watched history because it immediately started recommending me murder, kidnapping etc videos. thanks i hate it!
@@withthesehands5799 Useful to learn how to avoid FedGov though. 😉
Notice the doomscrolling, that trance-like state when it happens. Save your brain while you can
I will say, I absolutely love getting videos with like 8 views in my recommendations. You get such a good picture of what the average person is doing on youtube, it's insanely fascinating to me. Getting videos I've already seen though, is pretty annoying.
There are websites that can find a random vid for you with little to no views
im also totally fine with that, the issue its that trying to find any video regarding a topic its bordeline impossible to find, along with getting tiktok level recomendations and isane levels of shorts shoved everywhere.
I find myself closing youtube all the time or goign specifically to channels i know and rewatching their videos, because outside the odd 8 view recomended video from a theme i like 90% of everything else its just.. meh (not because the person itself, but the theme of the video)
This is how I found a channel of some guy washing his clothes for 2 hours per vid. Or an entire underground community of people showing off their filled coloring books
@@geekzombie8795 I'm trying to find motivation but lifes a bit hectic at the moment😂 had a new born - yay finally a dad - plus trying to learn ue5 from a complete at home noob setting to make random videos is probably not the smartest.... .....and I dont have the same passion for modern games any more.........funny enough I moved back to streaming on twitch after a very long break....growing faster there than on here which is weird as I was going well on here for my content quality I thought but now it's like nah no one wants to see what you do😂 plus I havnt been to a car show for a long time plus left all my car clubs after covid....maybe I will just put a timelapse car wash video of my r33 gts 25de sedan and see how that goes......
@@kephrianbro I dont even get 20 views on my shorts
I was searching exactly for this video, I can't pinpoint what's the problem exactly. I simply feels very different, Google search as well.
I searched "youtube is different" and found you. So all's good.
I HATE TH-cam Shorts i wish i could disable them. And i thought 2013 was a Bad Year for TH-cam.
i use youtube revanced app for mobile + youtube search fixer on desktop, removes shorts like a charm
That was the beginning
You can disable them with adblock, I have done it and it works really well
how in the world is 2013 bad?
You CAN disable TH-cam Shorts, and this video th-cam.com/video/Nfr0uIU2lDI/w-d-xo.html shows you how. It's a fair amount of work, but I tried it, and it worked for me.
Yeah, this video was recommended to me out of nowhere. HOWEVER, unlike all the other random bullshit I see potential in this channel. I feel like this could become something much much bigger in the long run. Just keep at that grind, I'm rooting for you.
Same
Same
Same
Same
same
Miraculously, you came up in my feed! What a change from the crap they keep pushing on me!
Jumping in to say that Yup, this just showed up randomly on my home page out of nowhere today. Good stuff though, definitely checking out your other vids!
Recently, my mom has been complaining about getting videos recommended to her that have almost no views, and no relation to her viewing interests - religious videos, spiritual videos, mindfulness videos - and she thought it was her fault for clicking on a video like that several weeks ago, lol 😄 She is even explicitly telling the TH-cam recommendation algorithm on each of those videos (via the small menu button next to the video) that she is not interested in that content. But TH-cam still recommends her those videos over and over again 😂
Sad. That would be very frustrating.
Funny, I Keep getting Chinese and Islamic or even Jewish recommendations..
Make sure she restarts her computer from time to time. TH-cam is bad at updated individual accounts.
That has started happening to me too, usually shorts.. Videos are still within my echo chamber but shorts are weird and random zero views videos
Oh my gosh so I'm not the only one spammed religious content when I haven't ever engaged with it??
My biggest complaint right now is almost entirely related to the search function. I use youtube in my classroom as a teacher, and its gotten a lot harder to find the content I KNOW exists, that I have previously seen, but now I get so few results related to my query that I struggle to find some of the more obscure videos I like to use in class.
I knew all of Robert Sapolsky's videos vanished! I used to be able to find stuff about behavioral biology and now it's a desert!
It's getting really bad when it comes to videos on history
Every year I use the same video to teach bon dancing. This time I had to get so weirdly specific about the video I was looking for to find the bon dancing video.
You know you can save videos and even make folders, right? I used to have a folder for each subject and there they were when I needed them.
Also a teacher and I have to download/record things as I find them
I like that youtube recommends random stuff because it let's you find new content
Great video! Yes, I do generally have an interest in video essays and internet discussion/research, so this recommendation was on point. But, even now I opened up TH-cam in a different tab and I've got some weird stuff on my homepage. Including a recap for Season 1 of something called Feud, which I've never heard of, nor do I watch Season Recap videos. I do think it's easy to get trapped in your own little niche of TH-cam and I appreciate when I find something new that I like that isn't usually my thing, but, I agree that a lot of the recommendations seem TOO random. Like why does TH-cam think I want to listen to a podcast about vintage sheet music? And the new search SUUUUCKS
Something I've been noticing for a few years is sometimes youtube will recommend a video I've already watch and seemingly deliberately hide the watch time bar so it doesn't look like you've already seen it.
There is a limited memory for one's "watched' bars.
Watch too many, and older ones get forgotten.
Though I do sometimes have doubts about priority of forgetting.
In my music section,it no longer gives me the option to eliminate videos. Listen again is a useful feature until it fills up with videos/ songs you listened to once or twice and never want to hear again. Other videos have the not interested option, and the don't recommend option, why not in music?
Also, my recommended searches should be things I have searched, and they're not. I'm not a gamer or interested in sports, so all the most searched options are of no use to me. It used to have my own searches, but not anymore.
Seems I’ve already commented happens all too often. 🤦♀️🤷♀️
@@musaran2 This was my assumption when I first noticed but it kept happening so I actually checked on a number of occasions by going to the channel in another tab to compare and it still had the watch bar most of the ones I checked.
I hate TH-cam anymore. I’m so incredibly bored with having to sift through the same damn videos day after day after day. I used to love it but those days are over. The crap they recommend is so not me. It’s like they don’t care what I want to watch.
TH-cam feels very OFF these days. You hit the nail on the head. And the fact your video was recommended is actually on-brand for the types of videos I enjoy watching.
video recommended out of nowhere, though it's not hard to capture my attention...
now that it has been brought up though youtube does feel vastly different from what i remember back in some odd of 2012 and years near it. back then i'd look up anime wolf versions of songs i liked, which were overglorified stolen art slideshows with a song. but guess what? that was still what i wanted and i'd even come across the songs i like today that way.
now? i feel like if i'd look that up i'd get maybe 4 results max of what i roughly want and then bombarded with shorts, "for you" stuff and "what others are watching" and it's like
what would be for me is what i want at this current moment which is why i'm using the search feature that you freaking provided, thank you. [@ youtube]
i like how what you described at the end for how it should work is how the tv youtube viewing experience is lol
The biggest downside for me is TH-cam is pushing me very quickly into certain niches and does not let me leave. Like, I watch a lot of political content but recently I wanted to know few exercises so I watched approx. 10 videos from fitness niche. Since I did that 70% of recommended content is from various sport science/fitness/gym bros. Cool it down TH-cam, I want my politics and essays and my gaming TH-camrs back.
Getting back in track ironically always takes hours upon hours of watching the content you actually like 😅
I consciously avoid watching videos on topics I'm interested in but don't usually watch because I don't want my home page filled with just that type of video...
I liked a SINGLE viking song video 3 days ago, and now my rec is full as well, it's annoying asf!
Same. Slight interest in fitness, bombarded with CARNIVORE BROS
Yep, I watched a couple of classical music compilations and now it's completely stuffed my main page
I’ve definitely noticed the change in the search features and it’s one of the most annoying things on this site. Though I don’t use TH-cam often, trying to find a specific video/a range of videos on a certain topic is almost impossible now.
The search function drives me crazy now, I've always loved watching anime speed paint videos, but I get like 10 I can pick from before it's like here's this creator you watch who isn't related to what you searched at all~~✨ it's really cut down on how often I watch those now 😭
The search is really bad. Starting to remind me of shopping on Amazon. So I'm getting irrelevant results & irrelevant ads. The recommendations are the only thing that has improved for me.
i think rhe search engine got changed or something because is not working on anything like it used to (google, facebook, twitter, etc)
It's an absolute nightmare trying to find some old vids with key words. Not even the full title of the vid makes it show up at top.
Yt be crap nowadays
I feel like when I type a word in the TH-cam search engine, TH-cam is using that word for 5 listed videos in the results and then it completely forgets what i searched after that and tells me to go f-k myself with the rest
Never heard of you, but, surprisingly, your video popped up at most perfect time: this question just came up in my head 20 minutes ago.
Great video, thank you! It was recommended to me out of nowhere. My frustration with TH-cam is the same as other commenters.
Finally someone is talking about this. I am interested in slice of life and Japanese fashion content, yet I get soooo many recommendations for videos about celebrity drama, commentary on why (insert anything) is problematic, and random makeup influencers.
Yes, this. Its a lot of negativity blasting itself into our lives
teach the algo you don’t want their constant libtard propaganda by downvoting all of it
prob won’t work tho lol
oh for fuck sake tell me about it @DiaryofNatalieRose. I used to be able to find funny anime memes now I can only find "girls are into this" "look, look what this celebrity/politician did" bro, I don't give a fuck what celebrities are up to (yeah hopefully throwing themselves off a bridge ASAP wearing cement shoes) or what 3D GIRLS in the real world are into you dare to recommend the 3D to me???, Do I look like that's going to be relevant info to me any time soon?. I'm fucking sick of my recommended being 95% contaminated with shit I have absolutely 0 interest in. I want more anime and more Minecraft.
ikr! same here! its sooo annoying
@@akabaneaki what's irritating about it is that TH-cam is effectively forcing people to agree to all of these terms on how they process their data yet the recommendations are still garbage. This is no small amount of data they are collecting about people and because of that I think people are entirely justified in expecting relevant content based on their interests. I'm sending them data about basically every video and channel I watch and yet I'm still receiving utter shit that has nothing to do with anything I watch or any channel I have subscribed to so I have to ask the question "why does TH-cam need to process my data?"
I thought it was just me, because I always click them out of curiosity. I figured it just knew I had that behavior, not that it was doing this for everyone.
I have the same curiosity towards these random videos, and I think the same hold for most people.
But a lot of videos about a "niche", aren't designed with new viewers in mind, so I usually click away within a minute.
same dude, so tired ofa b1 droid singing being recommended to me, i dont care at all mate
Yea i have corusiority so i click random vids
wsg mogswamp
same here
I searched how to block shorts, yesterday. Today I got this vid in my feed.
I got recommended this out of nowhere but I’ve seen it a few times and strangely only when I can’t find something to watch but I’m glad I finally watched it
I love the fact that small creators are being pushed out more, found this video exactly because of the algorithm change. Very good quality video btw
thats probably the only good part of this new algorithm
It's cool, but it's so unhelpful to small creators because I'm recommended random stuff from some small creators but the tiny creators I care about are never recommend to me despite me subscribing and turning on notifications (that rarely appear). I've found a few good niches through this system but for some reason it's like when the channel gets too small TH-cam forgets all of your interests. It's like they assume I'll click on someone's recording of a discord call out of pity that it only has 500 views but wouldn't want to listen to a video essay about my favorite game ever because it's only got 50 views.
@@theflyingspaget Yeah unfortunately by pushing small creators indiscriminately to people outside their target demo, it can inadvertently tank the video performance, which often hurts the small creator even more
TH-cam have a box that comes up occasionally, asking if you want something different from what is usually recommended...
It would be nice if that feature was worked on a little, giving ppl a choice :(
A behaviour science thing.
if choosing to watch something new, your more likely to have an open mind about it, allowing you to enjoy it more than you would have if it was the only option you had with seemingly no other choice.
The same thing happens when youtubers buy adds and they are shown to ppl outside their target audience.
This was actually tested by another content creator.
'The spiffing brit, youtube is broken - how to kill a youtube video' Time stamp 2:12
TH-cam is hurting creators in the same way :/
Its bad marketing :(
" i keep seeing the same stuff " " i keep seeing random stuff " this guy is mad that people who don't know about famous people saw a video about famous people on youtube . this is exactly the kind of person who should see the video lol
The good news about how TH-cam is now is that I used to find hundreds of interesting videos and spend way too much time watching. Now I get bored or frustrated after just a few minutes and go find something better to do.
exactly!!! i used to look through youtube for interesting, tangental videos . Now i watch maybe 3 videos and fuck off.
I remember the sidebar always had so much! And now I spend more time looking than anything
same!! the only good thing that has come out of youtube becoming so shitty is that it became less addictive. and since I was wasting way more time than i would like to on this platform it is actually good in some way.
very that
I thought I was just outgrowing youtube and social media in general, so it's interesting other people have the same experience. I can scroll through the home page and the "new to you" page for 20 minutes and not find something i actually want to watch anymore
One of the most annoying things I've experienced with youtube is the notifications on mobile. I never get notifications for things that I want (Channels I've clicked the bell on, comment replies, I did this entirely because of one youtuber's polls) and instead get random stuff like asking if I want to watch a random person's video on my tv or some random channel's post. I have these ticked off but they don't care.
Edit: Just subbed, let's see if YT recommends me his next vid.
This video has to be the best video for me on my home page because it has literally read my mind... I have to re load the home page 3 times to find something to watch
I'm into niche things, but getting recommended mainstream ones. Searching for something very specific became almost impossible. TH-cam should try to be better than tiktok instead of copying it. And now youtube always recommends just new videos, even if you're looking for timeless things that are just as valid several years later.
Dude fr playlists is your best friend now, like I love the niche videos from 5-10 years ago or vidoes with that vibe, and it’s impossible to find them again it makes it feel like I found a piece of gold because legit searching for it I’ll never find it.
@@banshiii4049 it's the only way I can keep track of things. I watch coding videos online and trying to refind a good one is nigh on impossible using the search bar, even if you know the name of the video.
Broo yt search option is very accurate
If I wanted to watch tiktoks I'd download TikTok if TH-cam becomes like TikTok people like me who don't care about TikTok will just stop using TH-cam. That's such a dumb idea from yt.
@@banshiii4049I'm so glad it wasn't just me
I very much agree, I feel like I scrolled through the home page a lot more lately to find something I actually care to watch, and have more recently found myself just giving up and looking elsewhere for entertainment which I feel really means that TH-cam has failed to do it's job if I'm leaving the site to find something else.
LOL … and what will that be?
@@KarmasAbutch not op, but any number of streaming services with series or movies
@@thejadedjester4935 so not creator content then?
It is disadvantages everybody, I don't know why their self sabotaging
Yep I've just been reading books, they give me kids content on here or garbage made for teenagers and it's embarrassing to show other people because I dont want them thinking i watch any of that.
They intentionally start video filter lengths at 4 mins and not 2 min to make you deal with all those horrible Shorts
The shorts wars appeared when he searched youtube lore lol
I can spend several minutes just scrolling, looking for anything interesting. Most videos are so far outside what I care about that I just keep on scrolling.
It feels like it got worse and worse over the last few years, especially this last year.
Your explanation feels spot on!
Don’t say it makes you keep scrolling, they’ll double down 💀
omg yes, I remember like even still a year ago I would be able to find something to watch on the maximum first 10 recommended videos guessing high, now I will scroll for minutes trying to find something to sleep to, I literally just clicked on this video bc I was like ok im scrolling for so long now lets just watch this random one he might be chill enough for me to fall asleep
This is exactly what is happening to me. It seem like it's getting worse every month. Before, I'd find something interesting to click on off the bat. Now I scroll for days, then refresh the page and scroll until I force myself to watch something I don't really have an interest in. Spend a minute on the video, then leave. The new algorithm is not good.
YEEES
@@WrenFairX no they wont, they dont want you to scroll on youtube, they want you to spend your time on the site as watch time. Netflix knows its users will exit the app within 90 seconds if they cant find anything. TH-cam is probably similar
I miss the days when the recommended list under each video actually contained similar content to the video I was current watching, allowing me to sort of rabbit hole into specific topics. Now that that section is almost entire filled with TH-cam drama, videos I've already seen, and Taylor Swift music videos, I don't think I've used that feature in years.
My feed also has Taylor Swift related videos, both main page and shorts, even though I hate this woman and never searched for anything related to her :/
i sweaarrr that was when youtube was actually fun to watch. Right now its all mish mash from small creators, old videos and some weird unheard of content that ive never watched before.
@@sandraswan9008 I got so many unwanted Taylor Swift, Beyonce, and Cardi B Videos (I only ever listen to Gospel music or the Oak Ridge Boys/Statler Brothers/Home Free) that, after "Do not recommend channel" was ignored for over a month, I just hit "Violent or repulsive content" every time.
I was getting so annoyed by the suggestions, that I disabled them. Now I only see the suggestions when the clip has ended
yea its so very, very Ass.
the reels in search drive my crazyyy
got a chaos garden recomendation while watching your video pretty insane 🤣 someone is listening
I’ve been finding it really hard to find engaging content recently, and I thought it was just me. I didn’t even know you when you showed up on my recommended, but I have to say this video was quite informational and entertaining. Love your content man, keep it up.
yeah, this. youtube recommends dogshit mostly.
The only way I find content I like is to go to the channels of my favorite creators. Finding new creators is so hard
Fr@@cory99998
im glad i have a watch later with more than 1000 interesting videos
@@vindi167 sometimes my recommended page gets so back I have to dig in my watch later bro. TH-cam is just fucked up rn