Hello everyone I wanted to ask something about the delay effect of training cards. If I use the effect can I reduce the cost even if I warp with st7 guilmon or st14 impmon. I ask because I have noticed great confusion in the community.
You can’t because both effects are “active effects” and the reduction from training only happens if you use training’s delay to digivolve your digimon. However, cost reduction like bt15 Palmon can still be used because it’s a passive effect.
@@thelostoracle126is digimon card wiki a reliable source? Cause it says you can warp at a reduce cost and you don’t have to digievolve immediately after activating the training’s delay effect
@@Giuseppe.Cardillo trainings you have to digivolve immediately otherwise it is wasted. The difference between st7 guilmon and st14 impmon is that st7 guilmon is a passive effect. So the reduction can be done for the warp as its always active (as long as the condition is met) so you pop and immediately evolve into gallant for 2 less cost. Where as for st14 impmon if you pop you have to evolve. the warp effect is only if its during the when attacking. and we know effects like do not wait. as effects like hidden potential discovered which specifically state the "next time you would digivolve" instead of training which states "1 of your digimon may digivolve."
ヒデヨシさんの解説やっぱりわかりやすくていいですね
ヒデヨシさんいてくださる安心感とコレコレ！感がスゴイ。
ほんとうにまた時々でもいいから、出演していただきたい！
そしてかけるさんと青山さんも両デッキの特徴と強さを分かりやすくプレイングで見せていただいて、とても勉強になる回だった！！
ヒデヨシさん居ると安心するな〜
ラグナロード使いたいと思ってたからあの盤面から一気にひっくり返してペースを握る活躍見られてめっちゃ良かったです♪
まだいんのヒデヨシさん笑笑
準レギュラーになってほしい！
ラグナロードモンの相手ターン中に全退化飛ばす効果エグいな…
ブリウエルドラモンの耐性のお陰で自分のデッキが回る事だけ考えれば良いのは気が楽。場と手札さえ整えば相手の除去や妨害を気にせず攻撃を待てば良いし、なんなら攻撃を強制できるギミックもあるからブラストジョグレスに特化しても強そう
山出谷さんの「早くスリーブ入れてあげないと」がさりげないけどカードゲーマー視点だと好感度高いわ
先週からヒデヨシさんいるの嬉しすぎる
ラグナロードモンデッキずっと使ってるから強化嬉しい
オープニングトークおもろ🤣
そしてヒデヨシさんがいると安心するし
解説もスッと入ってくる。
かけるさんのラグナロードモンデッキ つっよ！
青山さんの黄色紫デッキに合わせた衣装も👍
次回の師弟対決も楽しみ。
耐性持ち増えたなあ。レベル6同士のジョグレスは着地が大変な分だけやはり強力ですね。手札から能動的に進化元に刺せるのも新鮮でした。序盤でスパーダモン使ってパーツを引きに行くのは見ていてハラハラしましたが、揃ってからは怒涛の捲りでしたね
ヒデヨシさんがいる！嬉しい！
ラグナロードとマスティどっちも使いたい！
ブラストジョグレスはロマンありますね！相手の盤面にデジモンがいるだけで警戒めっちゃしちゃうw
それとヒデヨシさんが今回も居てくれて嬉しかったです☺️
Awesome to see some real action of EX6 Maste! 👀
新弾のライジルドモンはやっぱりかなり強いな。
テーマで組んでるから仕方無いけど、マスティモン側も入れてれば 24:44 ここもライジルドモン入れてターン返せば相手の盤面取れてたし、現環境ならマグナモンX抗体も処理出来るのは偉い。
勿論盤面とハンドの要求値は高いですけど、Lv.6ACEとの相性がヤバイですね。地味に消滅耐性が１回付くのもACEとの相性○ですし。
ヒデヨシさんみたかったよ
ブラストジョグレスからの一転攻勢でマスティモンの盤面を壊滅させるラグナロードAce！
ロマンを極めた破壊力はまさに伝説の領域ですね
Ragna finally won!
I feel i dont blame her but maste feel had more better build, and ragnaloard deck perform nicely… would be nice i have luck like that lol
Yeah, I’m pretty sure you are right. With her build, I guess she didn’t want to be too over whelming.
@@Y0kAiSalso ragna have good start even though he doesnt have rookie option delay spada and tamer its increase the speed
I mean she had to intentionally throw the game...nth to feel bad abt
青山さんパ○ワールドやってるんかな（）
Hello everyone
I wanted to ask something about the delay effect of training cards. If I use the effect can I reduce the cost even if I warp with st7 guilmon or st14 impmon. I ask because I have noticed great confusion in the community.
You can’t because both effects are “active effects” and the reduction from training only happens if you use training’s delay to digivolve your digimon. However, cost reduction like bt15 Palmon can still be used because it’s a passive effect.
@@thelostoracle126is digimon card wiki a reliable source? Cause it says you can warp at a reduce cost and you don’t have to digievolve immediately after activating the training’s delay effect
@@Giuseppe.Cardillo trainings you have to digivolve immediately otherwise it is wasted. The difference between st7 guilmon and st14 impmon is that st7 guilmon is a passive effect. So the reduction can be done for the warp as its always active (as long as the condition is met) so you pop and immediately evolve into gallant for 2 less cost. Where as for st14 impmon if you pop you have to evolve. the warp effect is only if its during the when attacking. and we know effects like do not wait. as effects like hidden potential discovered which specifically state the "next time you would digivolve" instead of training which states "1 of your digimon may digivolve."
@@LPsChris but on digimon card meta it says you don’t have to immediately digievolve after activating the delay effect.
@JoeBeppe99 yes cause it's optional however the effect will disappear as it says do it now. It doesn't say do it later or the next time
青山さん今回、ミレイ最初に出せたのはいいけどマスティモンACEは活かせず
なんか、過去のプレイを彷彿とさせる
ラグナロードかっこいいけど、13ターンなのか。。
Watching this and feel like they scripted Mastemon to lose.
プレミだな青山さん
Wow… do we count that as a win? That was absolutely horrible.
Can we get proper legend arms support pls?