Fix Phase Issues in 5 Minutes With Left-Right Method
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Phase between multimiced instruments tends to be completely overlooked by home studio producers and engineers. Yet the negative effects of bad phase relationships can ruin the potential of your mixes.
Instead of avoiding the problems lurking in your mix, check out this easy 5-minute technique and make light work of fixing phase issues in Logic Pro.
How come? Because you’re faced with a dilemma. Each microphone is “hearing” your instrument from a different angle and place. But not only that, the time it takes to reach each microphone is different.
Which results in some unfortunate circumstances. Your top snare mic is out of phase with your bottom snare mic. The time discrepancy between your room mic and close mics can make the drums sound empty and phasey. All robbing your mix of weight and substance.
With this five minute technique, all you need is the Logic Correlation Meter, Gain plugin, and hard-pan each track in your multimic setup. Five minutes and you're done!
Yeah dude. Wow. This is the best tutorial on fixing phase I've ever seen! Thanks a million, seriously such a game changer!! 🔥
There is no question that this is the best video on phase on youtube
wow. finally found a vid that actually offers some real correction instruction. Thank you very much for the vid!!!
I used to do this... I have a book on mastering that teaches this. The thing is... don't do it; when you hard pan any element like that you're not looking at the actual phase correlation that exists in the song, and you will get negative correlation where it doesn't actually exist, the negative correlation will be caused ONLY by the hard panning -- which you can observe by monoing left and right panned tracks that read as negative correlation and see that there is no reduction in their volume when monoed... THUS, the panning is what is causing the negative correlation, not that phase. What I do now instead of this is look at a correlation meter with the intended panning, you'll already be able to see if it's going negative, then flip the phase on one channel of one of those tracks, if it wasn't already going negative it should if you flip it, meaning it was fine... if it's not fine flip the phase and leave it; then switch to mono and listen for a drop in volume, which there shouldn't be if you are getting positive correlation.
ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER TUTORIAL!!!!!!!!!!!THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
Actually, I have to look at a better explanation. I can't figure out what plug ins he is using and where he is putting them, and I am fairly familiar with Logic :( Where is the Correlation MEter?
You can not imagine how this tutorial saved my life! After using this trick on a drum set, it sounded so real and so BIG!! 0 EQ 0 compression and already sounds freakinnn good! Thank you so much for sharing!
The year is 2020 and this tutorial is top 5 out here to fixing phase issues. Thanks bud
What are the other 4?? 🤩😄😃
Thanks for a straight forward tutorial without a bunch of senseless self-stroking babble. Informative, Precise,and Im gonna try this. Well Done Sir. Subbed !!!!
Great video. Thank you very much. 5:25 you have turn on mono button on overheads.
You are only dealing with polarity 180 degree phase relationships. Things are normally not 180 degrees out of phase. To try to truly correct phase relationships you must use ALL PASS filters. I would suggest Little Labs IBP's. I have spent 40 years dealing with phase issues. It is very complex. These YT videos don't tell the REAL story. Good luck to all, just know it is much more complex than flipping polarity.
Running a correlation meter on your master bus (like Clarity by Eventide) can save you time by portraying the correlation in real time for the whole session.
BEST TUTORIAL ON PHASING NO CAP!
Best tutorial on TH-cam I've come across for fixing phase issues
The Best practical info on this subject period! EQ changing phase? Who Knew!!!
Thanks a Bunch!
Thank You Mark! So glad it helped :)
great vid. didn't realise i had a correlation meter :) used this to correct phase problems with doubled up vocal harmonies. really helpful.
Spent hours researching phase alignment and correlation issues and this quick short video broke it down so easy for me! Thank you so much for the effort and time put into simplying this lesson! Can’t wait to use these techniques on my mixes!!! Keep up the great work!
You bet Johny! Thanks for checking out the video :)
You bet Johny! Thanks for checking out the video :)
Straight to the point and couldn't have asked for more clarity - brilliant job!
this is perhaps one of my favorite mixing videos, you managed to make something very simple and straight to the point something that is usually hard to understand and correct. thank you very much for this excellent video
Very informative, even though I fell asleep half way through .
At a cafe.
Your voice is way too soothing, dude.
Straight forward no bullshit, informative video. I appreciate it man. I usually get phase issues when I double track guitars in GarageBand. Typically I’ll reverse the phase invert on one of the tracks, sometime it doesn’t always negate the problem. As you said on here, EQ’ing can present certain problems. Good to know the approach on how to get rid of them after seeing this.
here's something i found. my toms were out of phase because they were panned backwards in the mix. when i placed the tom mics where they actually were compared to the overheads and other mics, i could pan them until the phase is perfect. the kit locks in!
that camera analogy tho! thanks ahead of time
Underrated video, watch, learn, and share with your friends.
Wow! Great info. Just the Hi Pass use - phase introduction I had never heard of before. Awesome. Linear Phase for that job from now on.
One of the best practical lesson about phase issues! Thanks for these great tips.
The best explanation of phase.
Thanks for this video! Major help when I was multi micing a guitar amp. Can't wait to try it out on a drum kit.
this is my favorite video on phase, great job! always wondered what the point of the linear phase eq was
SUCH a valuable lesson, Thank you so much!
Damn man, I for sure thought I found someone else dropping logic knowledge bombs, lo and behold it's just you on a different channel 😂 Another win sir
Thanks so much for this - in phase mixing hell right now - and this helped so much!
Excellent tutorial one of the best if not the best .Covered everything precisely .
Well thanks, this was one of the best videos about fixing phase issues I've ever seen! Thank you!
best information! I can't believe there aren't many tutorials talking about this..!
Great video! Thank you! Now to find a correlation meter for LUNA.
This was so incredibly helpful. Surprised that Logic doesn’t include a plug-in which allows you to shift audio. Thank you!
Sample delay?
@@prebenraunsbjerg Yeah I've found this works (since commenting).
@@Samnewtonmusic how do you mean? do you just set the mix to 100% with no original signal? i know pro tools has this but never saw it in logic
What an awesome approach! Thank you for letting us know. Got me subscribed in an instance.
I look forward to checking out your other contents.
Thank you!
Excellent info! Thanks. Especially the bit about the Linear Phase EQ. Had no idea a regular HPF introduced phase issues. In place of using the Voxengo plugin, couldn't you just turn snap off and nudge a clip backwards or forwards to align them?
Thanks Anthony! You very much could. In my experience, time-aligning by simply looking at audio forms doesn't necessarily mean your tracks have the best phase-relationships.
It's weird, but I go through the paces with a time delay tool such as the Voxengo Sound Delay.
The gain plugin seems to look different now. I'm not seeing the mono button on it.
Gratitude 🙏
EXCELLENT video! Thanks very much for this great info.
Thanks so much VergeMusicWorks!
Thanks... great job... one of the best video on solving phase issues .
This is such a fantastic way to fix the phase issues.
Can we or how to create a single short clip to check the phase for a stereo system ?
Thank you so much Chris. I was looking for learning this.
Thanks so much.
0:58 Awesome example!
Great content, Chris. As always. Would it make any sense to first *highpass* each drum track with non-linear EQs, and then *phase align* them?
Thanks! Best best method to fixing phase.
Dude the best Video by far and finally someone gave me a plausible reason for using linear phase instead.. thx man
Very helpful. Thank you very much for sharing this!
Great video. Simplifying the complex, cutting through the noise. Bravo.
Questions:
Bucket 1: why not just use linear phase eq all the time then? Is there a different sound to them? What’s the advantage of the non linear phase eq.
Bucket 2: if I’m writing using mostly electronic instruments, I’m still gonna come up against phase issues (right?). So what are the common issues there. I assume the fixes remain the same tho (?)
Thanks again!
Straight to the point. Thank you.
Great info! Thanks.
Thank you so so much for this tutorial, just any phase inverter can fix this?
Glad to see I'm not alone at saying that this tutorial is fantastically genius!
Wow best tutorial on phase ever !!!
great tutorial, just what i was looking for.
Brooooooooooooooooooo! You did it with this one. Thanks for the snare tip too!
All I want to know is how exactly are you able to turn all the plugins on and off at the same time.
Thank you so much, great tutorial!!!
Amazing bro.. All good!
Very useful lesson, thank you!
Great video!
Thanks! Good method
I’d be very grateful if you could explain how you bypassed all the drum gain plugins simultaneously - I’ve never understood how to do that in Logic
Thanks!!!
Absolutely fantastic video! Thank you.
Thank you!
Great video. very informative thank you
Holy Jesus you just saved my day, wowwwwwww what a tutorial, amazing bro, thanks a tonne, very true no need to look at another tutorial
really clear and helpful!
Thanks man!
This is really great! Thank you!
Thank you for this!
I’m trying to fix this phasing issue with one of my MIDI keyboard tracks. And it’s always seems to keep going into the negative area.
Great demo!
Thank you very much!!! This is a REALLY helpful video!
No prob Sergey!
Thanks bro i always wanted to know about this!!
Thanks a lot ! this is great tutorial so far about phase issue
Thanks so much Tong!
thank you !
You're the damn best teacher on the planet!!! Thank you so much for your tutorial!! You saved my butt!!!
Amazing video
best explanation! if i dont have linear eq can i eq before fixing phase?
Very good to see this problem and corrective process explained. But how would you solve this issue over a plus 30 track production, where there is a micro latency delay occurring over respective clips/samples in the session all the way down, from drum tracks, bass, guitars, keys, strings etc to vocals? All these will incur some degree of frequency masking but even when that is reduced by mirror EQ adjustments, there is still the global issue of clip time alignment and phase slip between tracks in the whole session at m/s level. The problem is audible and unfixable unless you can nominate one recurring sound as the target or master timescale, and then somehow use analysis tools to apply a global track clip fix that slave to that master. How to do that would be some sort of Eureka moment. Doing this manually by slip editing at sample level would be a huge task track by track/clip by clip, and you'd still need one accurate target track as your reference point. I get what you say about phase inversion but that wont fix micro timing issues and the problem is still there. I guess the SoundRadix Pi plugin would be the answer but its pricey. I wonder if there might be some other way. Thank you so much and seasons greetings.
So helpful!!!! Thank you!
Amazing tutorial!
Hey man. Great explanation on a good technique. I’d note that linear phase does have disadvantages in the form of pre ring which is especially evident on hi-pass :)
What is pre ring ? Wow nothing is perfect mixing is so confusing
In this drum kit you had one channel of ohs, kick and snare.What if you have oil,ohr, kick in and out , snare top and bottom?I am a little confused.
THIS IS TOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOD
This video was amazing.
this technique is awesome 🔥
Very helpful. Appreciate it much. New subscriber.
Thank you for that golden info!!!
Of course! Thank you for watching Pawel :)
Nicely done
Hi there
I started using this with Logic Pro X
I took a isolated guitar track
bounce it out two L + R mono tracks
Now assigned Panorama 5 plugin to the left mono track to move it around in the stereos Spectrum
And add correlation meter from Logic and isotopes
Imager to Monitor the phase issues on this left mono track
But still having difficulty control phaseing
i didnt get where you put the correlation plug in? on all the tracks or just on the master?
Thank you for this. One question: Why do you need to hard pan the tracks left and right, couldn't you simply solo both of them and put the correlation meter on the master and still get an accurate readout?
excellent information sir. thank you
Thanks so much for the kind feedback!
Great help!
Anyone know how I can find this kind of correlation meter in Ableton Live ? Thanks !
AMAZING TUTORIAL!! THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS!!!! PLEASE MORE VIDS ON ALL INSTRUMENTS!!!!! SUBBED!!!!
Thanks so much Nekro Reaper! You can see more videos on my new TH-cam Channel and blog - Why Logic Pro Rules: th-cam.com/channels/kPFhho9dmkx6QhDaqrewoA.html
I post new videos every week. Thanks!
awesome thanks brother! im a man of logic pro myself so this is an incredibly huge help!!!! deff gonna check out your new channel and sub (:
Logic has the Sample Delay plugin as stock.
Why at 4:38 you say it’s fine even if the correlation meter hits negative?
Really Really REally REally and i mean REALLY great tutorial!! thanks man u the best!! xx