But he could walk out the prison alone. Um sure u don’t want to accept responsibility for the murders but come back after 6 hrs thx guy. I’m glad he didn’t kill anyone else.
Someone could be watching this and then the horrifying realization that Gavin actually lives next door hits them... or worse still dating their daughter.... let's hope the parole board got it right
Damn. My Catholic dad hated my Billy Joel “only the good die young” record and he snapped it in half. I didn’t kill my dad, I just went back in my room and put a different record on.
That's the background behind all these stories. Neither kids nor adults lose it in an instant and turn from being a normal person to being a mass murderer with no warning. There are ALWAYS red flags beforehand, red flags that the people around them either don't recognize or that they just ignore. Having pictures of Hitler in your bedroom is a very obvious red flag, but there are many others that are less obvious but that are nonetheless observable. Parents like those in this video, however, can't seem to bring themselves to acknowledge that "There's something wrong with Sonny Boy" and end up paying for it with their own lives. You are NOT doing your kid or yourself a favor by ignoring the red flags that they broadcast. At least some such family massacres by kids could be avoided if parents carefully observed their children and got them the help that they needed as soon as possible. ... jkulik919@gmail.com
@@NannupTiger It’s about 80% how you were raised, and 20% how you were born, IMO. Almost all serial killers have a terrible childhood filled with abuse and stress, but there has been a couple that claim to have had a perfect upbringing. In those cases it’s likely that their mental issues are what set them off.
@@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263 I want your name! 😁 😁 I've been saying "I don't discriminate. I hate everyone equally" for decades (and no I don't really)! And that post! Mwah! Perfectly! Perfectly done! Jenn 🇨🇦 👋 👋 Hello from Canada
Well I think the last boy killed his best friend because he was jealous of him, jealous that he was popular, had girlfriends, had a lot of friends & had a loving family.
@@User-718_ Good for you? I mean am I supposed to feel insulted or something? Am I supposed to feel terrible cus 1 person outta 8 billion on the planet doesn't like my face? Better figure out a different way to try & offend ppl cus this one went outta style like 20 yrs ago.
@@lauraarcher6996 Where did I indicate that I was so sure of EVERYTHING? Just cus it's obvious with 1 person doesn't mean the others have the same motives for killing.
I actually think it might not be jealousy, he killed the people he cared about first and then went on a killing spree. Spree killers tend to kill those they care about because they don't want them to see what they have become.
I live in Las Vegas and a lot of the stories I hear that happen here seem to happen very close to home. The body builder guy that burned his wife in the red jaguar in the desert used to go to the same gym as my roomate and lived about 2 miles from my parents home. These people could be our neighbors.
I cannot believe he did that. First time I ever this but they needed to take the electric chair to his house. This was so senseless, damaged all of those lives because he wiring was faulty
He should of done the MAXIMUM amount of time the crime committed. LIFE. He Shouldn't have any choice other that knowing no matter what he would of died in prison. Psychopaths & Sociopaths & Pedophiles don't rehabilitate, theres evidence proving that
Yes, but where was the masquerade party? I hate this narrator. They were ‘devotly’ Catholic. Devoutly Catholic. He also isn’t clear about the forms of the murder. Often he says murderer when he doesn’t mean that.
@Dirty Magic11 @Dirty Magic11 not op but true crime is fascinating me because at the end of the day it's someone making one decision or a series of them that completely and utterly change every aspect of their life. If they get caught they face justice in the court system potentially life in prison or a long time or if they don't get caught for a while or ever then it's either like they're looking over their shoulder the entire time or get off on their secret. Fascinating And it's terrifying because i feel like any ordinary person could be pushed to that point over at least one thing in their life. Or the more sinister people can act like the nicest person ever worm their way in and literally stab you over a perceived slight. It could be anyone anytime anywhere. Also I feel like part of the reason i binge murder docs and videos like this is i wanna be prepared and not get murdered to death. But that's just me🤷♀️
The horrifying aspect for me has to be that absolutely anyone is cable of killing. My mom, my dad, my siblings or a even a stranger passing by. Heck that also means I'm just as cable. It's also horrifying that they can simply wake up one morning and make that decision uprupt or they can plan it for months. You just never know and that unknown is the horrifying part.
Woaaahhh. Deep. That's a duh comment, man. I'll give you an example - People use their eyes to see the wonders of the world and also the absolute garbage in it like your comment.
@@martinphilip8998 I'm not even being funny.. do you know the story of the guy on the greyhound bus,that cannibalize another passenger? They let him out in only a few years,with no supervision and such. Even let him change his name!!
yeah and 'monitored' usually means reporting to a parole/probation officer, sometimes only once a month... so one day the person maybe doesn't show up ? and when they get around to looking for him he's gone. oops.
They don't have to be fed and housed on the taxpayer's dime. Just monitoring somebody who's out paying his own bills is cheaper than paying for his room and board and supervision in prison.
The way we monitor them needs to be overhauled, Chip them and let that do the talking for them when they next reoffend then they get life or face execution. Violent criminals shouldn't get more than one chance, if your chip says you were there - you had your chance and you just pissed away your life by re offending. There are too many of us here to value mad violent dogs who can be monitored with tech and taken out of the game of life when they re offend.
I think that Gavin was manipulating, conniving, and a liar. He convinced the parole board that he was sorry by just simply saying what they wanted to hear. This is an EXTREMELY intelligent individual he knew exactly how to convince people that he was apologetic. He doesn't feel an ounce of remorse. He most likely still believes he was somehow the victim in this situation. He felt he was superior and as such shouldn't have been asked to do menial tasks such as chores. He was probably jealous of his sisters because they were "babied" in comparison since he was older and had more or harder chores. This is a smart, egotistical man who could very easily kill again.
Very true, because Canada under the 1st Trudeau peddled 'rehabilitation' over protection, and saw criminals as poor, misunderstood victims. Now, Trudeau 2.0 sees victims as criminals and criminals as victims, and Canada's parole boards try to let ANYONE out, including violent criminals.
I actually kind of like the 25 to 30 minute long videos because any longer and I just find there's just not enough content to fill that that's entertaining. I'd rather have a be concise and well written
At least you do chores and don’t complain and go shooting up the world cuz ur mad about it like these friggin punks LOL soooo ridic ! They were seriously disturbed..
@@katybug6572 Well, he killed his parents for making him do chores. I cannot find the person to blame for forcing me to do chores since I am an adult and live on my own. But I'm working on where I can place the blame and as soon as I find the SOB that's making me do laundry every week, I have some words for them.
One of the problems with psychopaths is the fact that you could be friends with one or at least know one without even knowing. They are very good at acting like expected and hiding how disturbing they are.
Moral of the story..It's not normal for your teen to be isolated and not be interested in dating,it also isn't a good idea to keep guns in the house..If you see a teen walking down the street with a rifle,take cover..If your friend is talking about killing their family,tell someone besides your other friends!
It's prob not about that, it's just the straw that broke the camels back. If you're having issues, small stuff you'd cope with normally can seem overwhelming. Also teenage boys with issues act out & become aggressive whereas teen girls withdraw from people & isolate themselves.
If you really want to be a hard-ass strict parent, go right ahead. But be sure to regularly check your whole property for potential weapons (before the cops have to).....
Are you even paying attention to the video? These parents weren't strict at all. None of them hit their kids. Psychopaths just need a reason to let loose and then play the victim.
@@anandharshal22 "none of them were strict." You obviously have never grown up with catholic parents. it's people like you that would make pretty terrible parents that think the meaning of "strict" is limited to hitting. The only part which you were correct is your last sentence.
Structure is bever a bad thing. No where did I see any evidence of hard ass strict parenting. Giving kids chores to clean up after themselves is not being strict thats called life. No one is gonna hand anyone anything on a silver platter and allowing your kid to think that way is actually extremely detrimental to their future. Lifes not fair and it never will be that doesnt mean you get mad and go off killing people. Jeez!!
Funny that most crimes are committed by kids with no religious upbringing. Most felons hadn’t stepped foot in a house of worship in the year before they committed the crime that sent them to prison according to multiple studies on prisoners. Lol
I don't understand why we have a juvenile justice system if every time they "commit an adult crime" then what is the point? What's NOT an adult crime, stealing a candy bar?
I'm sure there are plenty of juvenile crimes - stealing, assault, battery, light drug stuff, delinquency, truancy, playing with/carrying weapons without a license, involuntary manslaughter, dui's, hit and runs, driving without a license, causing accidents, etc etc. BUT when a young person executes a crime that is do heinous and evil and calculated and ruthless (something atypical of an average juvenile) their crime, punishment, and sentencing warrants special considerations. Just because someone is under aged doesn't mean they think like a kid. Some kids, I'm sure you know, act and think like adults - and in those special cases - I think trying them as adults makes sense. You almost answered your own questions though - when kids commit "adult" crimes - they get treated like adults.
If anyone is curious as to why the first case is so lenient, it’s because our justice system in Canada is fucked. No matter what you’ve done, if you’ve killed a million people, they always give the opportunity for parole. It’s ridiculous.
Suicidal Tendencies were there to make Catholic dads mad! "I went to your schools, I went to your churches, I went to your institutional learning facilities, so how how can you say I'm crazy? I'M NOT CRAZY! INSTITUTION! YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S CRAZY! INSTITUTION!"
Who even cares? He's trying to make bank and you really think celebs use what they endorse? Michael Jordan ain't worn Haynes since he hit it big. Make your coin bc just bc you say you use it won't make me buy it.
"Oh, I'm sorry and I saw the light" defense gets them a short stay in Canada every time, 25 years for 4 dead is a short stay. The last one did the right thing only he did it too late, he should have started with himself.
I chuckled when I saw your comment, as I began watching the whole video, but then I saw David and his haircut and I began to roflmffao, because it was so obviously true and funny as well! Oh, man, seriously, had me dying! He really does look batshit crazy doesn't he??
I live in Stillwater, Minnesota.. about 3-5 minutes away from where David Brom (the second case you covered) is locked up.. It was so weird hearing Stillwater in your video. I’ve never heard anyone cover that case before. Disgustingly tragic. You covered it well. Thanks for all you do!
My dad knew David Brom and the family personally. They were family friends. I wish that more info about this case and David came out. People need to know what was happening. David was likely being sexually abused by a priest who has been convicted on sexually assaulting Alter boys. Joey Pateroucha was one of them as well, believe it or not!
You need to cover Jeffrey Franklin. Happened down the street from my Aunt's house. I remember hanging out and seeing all the cop cars show up right down the road.
I just can't fathom how someone could kill their entire family unless they are being abused there's really no logic to it at all but then physopaths and sociopaths dont have logic.
If you have too many chores, why not run away, instead of killing everyone? The results are FAR less severe. BTW old chores are just replaced by new chores (scrounging for food, shelter etc) but w/o heating & A/C
The last story is one reason why folks should have concealed carry permits. He could have been stopped. All gun free zones are dangerous. Because criminals can't be stopped by legal gun carriers. This story also proves why anti gun activists are wrong. Guns aren't dangerous to ppl. It's unstable ppl who are dangerous.
I know how this might sound... but please read bedtime stories of about 45 minutes or so, that I can listen to before bed. I love your voice. It makes me so sleepy and calm.
If you're a model prisoner & express remorse you get out sooner. So, many offenders learn to do and say what the Parole Board want to hear. That's why you get 'he converted to christianity in prison' so often. A flagship US prison program to reform murderers found their re-offending rate actually went up. They simply learned to parrot what psychiatrists wanted to hear.
Glad you took my suggestion on David Brom I made under the last killer kids video. Got a pretty decent number of likes. I was local to the case at the time.
If your friend has mentioned killing their family for 6 fucking months why the fuck did they not say anything?! If someone would've came forward then the family would probably still be alive.
If you ever do another one of these, there was a kid in Huntsville Alabama named Jeffrey Franklin around 1998 that hacked up his whole family with a hatchet. Only a few blocks from my house. Crazy stuff.
Great job covering some very sensitive murders that seem absolutely senseless! Posing the possibilities is becoming your "calling card" ...you have a great mind for wondering why....and supplying your audience with the possible motives of the killer....and making them want to binge on your videos!!!! Guilty of binge watching, here!!!! . Keep up the good work!
Great video as always. If you are ever looking for a home town mystery Look up Brian Carrick of Johnsburg Ill. Strange case which to my knowledge still has not been solved
My Mom treated me like a slave, I don't remember learning laundry or cooking or cleaning. I always had done it. She never did the dishes, laundry, or any other chores. She would lay on the couch reading trash romance novels. When I grew up moved out, she had to hire a cleaning lady. Garbage parents exist. I hate how mothers are looked at as perfect, no matter how nasty they are
A close friend of mine who has been like family to me and my family and friends “ Was walking around talking to himself and carrying a walking stick with him that had biblical writers on it and then one day he walks into his moms house “ And something didn’t happen he liked and he beat her to death in the house until she apparently made it outside where he finished her in!!!? And then his son got off the school bus and the bus driver noticed something weird about the backyard of the house and called the law.When they arrived the found him laying on top of her covered in blood and talking about how the lord wanted him to kill the paramedic!!? So the arrested him and took him to jail where he finally came down from the Meth high he’d been on for days!!!? And she was the only person who cared about him!? Even though he treated her like shiat!!!? But hey “ Ya never know what a person is capable of!? Lol God bless ya all today Shalom
While case number one &!three are so-called settled, I personally don’t think David should ever be let out, although I didn’t think case number one should be able to roam free with an unidentified indenting,but if the authorities did their job ,they’re watching him, MEH,,,thank you Criminally Listed for all your hard work, these three cases were definitely thinkers, here from Florida b safe all ✌🏻😷
That's not the church that David Brom went to, it's just a random church photo. He wasn't going to a Catholic school. He was going to school at John Marshall HS in Rochester Minnesota. He rode my bus and was one year ahead of me. His family went to the same church my family went to (Pax Christi).
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Another great one LC as always my friend.
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I have no idea how that comment came to be. must of been done while in my pocket cuz I was listening to this while out jogging
@@ashleighpilsbury4382 Thank you who or what is that I don't know these names sorry.
It seems like Gavin realized they wouldn’t let him go if he didn’t seem sorry so he changed his tune to get free.
I never understand how the parole boards expect sociopaths to show remorse. That’s the mainstay of the personality disorder.
But he could walk out the prison alone. Um sure u don’t want to accept responsibility for the murders but come back after 6 hrs thx guy. I’m glad he didn’t kill anyone else.
Someone could be watching this and then the horrifying realization that Gavin actually lives next door hits them... or worse still dating their daughter.... let's hope the parole board got it right
.....then asked for a new family to stay with.....
@@LilithsCosmicLounge The chances are that the authorities know his whereabouts, it may just not be available as public information. I hope
Damn Eric straight up murdered the entire city.
Sagittarius be like that
The second his photo appeared I immediately thought "Columbine."
Reminded me of Charles Starkweather back in the 50s, but didn't kill as many townsfolk as Eric.
Imagine if Eric had an assault weapon
@@reedbowers1887 Who gives a fuck about his zodiac sign
Damn. My Catholic dad hated my Billy Joel “only the good die young” record and he snapped it in half. I didn’t kill my dad, I just went back in my room and put a different record on.
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It scares me to have children. Imagine serial killers. You never know what you might leave behind in this world.
🤣🤣🤣 Sorry, there's just something hilarious about a parent finding Billy Joel so disagreeable. He's the epitome of middle of the ground pop music!
@@myclelo6153 same
Dang.. that sucks.. but at least you didn’t go reaching for a gun instead! Sheesh!
“Had several pictures of adolf hitler.” K, time to throw the whole kid away.
That's the background behind all these stories. Neither kids nor adults lose it in an instant and turn from being a normal person to being a mass murderer with no warning. There are ALWAYS red flags beforehand, red flags that the people around them either don't recognize or that they just ignore. Having pictures of Hitler in your bedroom is a very obvious red flag, but there are many others that are less obvious but that are nonetheless observable. Parents like those in this video, however, can't seem to bring themselves to acknowledge that "There's something wrong with Sonny Boy" and end up paying for it with their own lives. You are NOT doing your kid or yourself a favor by ignoring the red flags that they broadcast. At least some such family massacres by kids could be avoided if parents carefully observed their children and got them the help that they needed as soon as possible. ... jkulik919@gmail.com
yes
I know yeah lol even his pictures are sinister
All in how you raise them, no? Dogs and kids... or are some just born 'bad'? 🤔
@@NannupTiger It’s about 80% how you were raised, and 20% how you were born, IMO. Almost all serial killers have a terrible childhood filled with abuse and stress, but there has been a couple that claim to have had a perfect upbringing. In those cases it’s likely that their mental issues are what set them off.
"He went to church every week"... So? Priests go to church every week too. Church doesn't make anyone a good person...
Truth!!
It has a negative effect on most.
Going into church makes you a Christian like going into a kitchen makes you a chef.
100%
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@@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263
I want your name! 😁 😁
I've been saying "I don't discriminate. I hate everyone equally" for decades (and no I don't really)!
And that post! Mwah!
Perfectly! Perfectly done!
Jenn 🇨🇦 👋 👋 Hello from Canada
Well I think the last boy killed his best friend because he was jealous of him, jealous that he was popular, had girlfriends, had a lot of friends & had a loving family.
Your face annoys me....
So, what about the others then? Since you're do sure of everything!!!
@@User-718_ Good for you? I mean am I supposed to feel insulted or something? Am I supposed to feel terrible cus 1 person outta 8 billion on the planet doesn't like my face? Better figure out a different way to try & offend ppl cus this one went outta style like 20 yrs ago.
@@lauraarcher6996 Where did I indicate that I was so sure of EVERYTHING? Just cus it's obvious with 1 person doesn't mean the others have the same motives for killing.
I actually think it might not be jealousy, he killed the people he cared about first and then went on a killing spree. Spree killers tend to kill those they care about because they don't want them to see what they have become.
He didn't like chores or going to church? I mean, who does? But you don't shoot anyone over it.
But I feel the abuse from real father is the real anger pent up!
Please do more research.
"his whereabouts are unknown" lovely... thanks justice system, send hm back into society with us why don't ya
Just make sure ya boo parents still alive and you'll be fine honey
He's been out of trouble since then. Also, just because we don't know his whereabouts, doesn't mean the police doesn't.
I live in Las Vegas and a lot of the stories I hear that happen here seem to happen very close to home. The body builder guy that burned his wife in the red jaguar in the desert used to go to the same gym as my roomate and lived about 2 miles from my parents home. These people could be our neighbors.
Holy vague-which "system" there are SO many! 10 provinces 3 terrorists 50 states in NA alone
@@crypticbeauty9832 WTF? Cryptic indeed...:)
Oh my! Eric was a killing machine. How awful for the entire community.
I cannot believe he did that. First time I ever this but they needed to take the electric chair to his house. This was so senseless, damaged all of those lives because he wiring was faulty
The number of people and families he impacted alone by himself is astonishing
If David could kill over a cassette tape. He was going to kill regardless.
People like that are basically looking for a reason.
@@chriscoates1406 🤔🗣️Pretty Much 🤷🏾♂️
Canada is so lenient in their sentencing. Let out after a few years after annililating his entire family. SMH
The max sentence is 25 to life -- parole possible after 25 years. I think humans have created a fkd up justice system
He should of done the MAXIMUM amount of time the crime committed. LIFE. He Shouldn't have any choice other that knowing no matter what he would of died in prison. Psychopaths & Sociopaths & Pedophiles don't rehabilitate, theres evidence proving that
@@Ak907Queen and serial rapists...
Well he probably apologized,,so what did you want them to do,,,(yes ,,that was sarcasm)
Agreed. Canada is notoriously soft on crime. The legal system believes victims are criminals and the criminals are the real victims.
"The police think he was planning on using the wig and makeup to disguise himself."
That's some top notch police work there 😉
For real . I was like damm I could be a detective.
The finest I ever seen!
Yes, but where was the masquerade party? I hate this narrator. They were ‘devotly’ Catholic. Devoutly Catholic. He also isn’t clear about the forms of the murder. Often he says murderer when he doesn’t mean that.
@@martinphilip8998 Fasho.....
Can you say "DUHHH"
4 murders, minimum security prison, full parole? Wow
We don't do 'justice' here in Canada.
@@DominionFenrir More like you don’t do “revenge” in Canada. Canada’s recidivism rate is 15% lower than the US, so it’s clearly working.
It’s a joke
@@katybug6572
No it not. Mistakes are made but on the whole they do a good job
@@Psyopcyclops With a population about a tenth of the United States, is it really?
True crime is fascinating and horrifying.
@Dirty Magic11 @Dirty Magic11 not op but true crime is fascinating me because at the end of the day it's someone making one decision or a series of them that completely and utterly change every aspect of their life. If they get caught they face justice in the court system potentially life in prison or a long time or if they don't get caught for a while or ever then it's either like they're looking over their shoulder the entire time or get off on their secret. Fascinating
And it's terrifying because i feel like any ordinary person could be pushed to that point over at least one thing in their life. Or the more sinister people can act like the nicest person ever worm their way in and literally stab you over a perceived slight. It could be anyone anytime anywhere. Also I feel like part of the reason i binge murder docs and videos like this is i wanna be prepared and not get murdered to death.
But that's just me🤷♀️
@Dirty Magic11 I love delving into the depths of the mind and attempting to understand how people can get so depraved. That’s why the reason why mate.
The horrifying aspect for me has to be that absolutely anyone is cable of killing. My mom, my dad, my siblings or a even a stranger passing by. Heck that also means I'm just as cable. It's also horrifying that they can simply wake up one morning and make that decision uprupt or they can plan it for months. You just never know and that unknown is the horrifying part.
Horrinating, or fascifying
Woaaahhh. Deep. That's a duh comment, man. I'll give you an example - People use their eyes to see the wonders of the world and also the absolute garbage in it like your comment.
Eric was gonna shoot the whole got damn country!
Fr he said imma let that thing flyyyyy
@@deadshot3473 lol wilde
“It was hunting season in the area”
Truly open season for Eric...
I thought the same thing!🤣🙈🙈🙈🤣
Monitored for the rest of his life, we have no idea where he is . Fantastic
Lol. I think that means the writer is lazy. The cops know.
@@martinphilip8998 no, it's Canada, they probably don't know where he is
@@feleciaclemons5074 Lol. Ok.
@@martinphilip8998 I'm not even being funny.. do you know the story of the guy on the greyhound bus,that cannibalize another passenger? They let him out in only a few years,with no supervision and such. Even let him change his name!!
The cops probably know it's just not public information
Why let someone out that has to be monitored for the rest of their life? Wtf is the point of letting them out?
yeah and 'monitored' usually means reporting to a parole/probation officer, sometimes only once a month... so one day the person maybe doesn't show up ? and when they get around to looking for him he's gone. oops.
It's very difficult to disagree with you? Infact I don't disagree with you....you are correct IMO
They don't have to be fed and housed on the taxpayer's dime. Just monitoring somebody who's out paying his own bills is cheaper than paying for his room and board and supervision in prison.
Because holding them for their full sentence and then releasing them without parole supervision is risky.
The way we monitor them needs to be overhauled, Chip them and let that do the talking for them when they next reoffend then they get life or face execution. Violent criminals shouldn't get more than one chance, if your chip says you were there - you had your chance and you just pissed away your life by re offending.
There are too many of us here to value mad violent dogs who can be monitored with tech and taken out of the game of life when they re offend.
Will probably be monitored the rest of his life....wherabouts unknown smh
Imagine if he has kids! I feel sorry for those poor children.
Unknown to the public but not to the corrections officers.
Gavin mandin
Now goes by the name
*Gavin Ian Maclean* & his parole is located in the Ontario region of Canada.
@@Ak907Queen yeah, that’s a whole ass province hahahah!
🧐🤔IKR!🤷🏾♂️😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think that Gavin was manipulating, conniving, and a liar. He convinced the parole board that he was sorry by just simply saying what they wanted to hear. This is an EXTREMELY intelligent individual he knew exactly how to convince people that he was apologetic. He doesn't feel an ounce of remorse. He most likely still believes he was somehow the victim in this situation. He felt he was superior and as such shouldn't have been asked to do menial tasks such as chores. He was probably jealous of his sisters because they were "babied" in comparison since he was older and had more or harder chores. This is a smart, egotistical man who could very easily kill again.
murderer: “Kills family over chores”
Prison: “we have more chores for you”
Karma! 😂😂
Gavin is somewhere harming someone or something, (animal..kid..ec) garuntee it.
I don't think so. He hurt his source of his pain.
One thing I assume from the cases from Canada, there is an extremely low punish rate for horrific crimes.
Right???
Same in Britain and Australia. Commonwealth countries suck at justice.
Very true, because Canada under the 1st Trudeau peddled 'rehabilitation' over protection, and saw criminals as poor, misunderstood victims. Now, Trudeau 2.0 sees victims as criminals and criminals as victims, and Canada's parole boards try to let ANYONE out, including violent criminals.
Isn’t it amazing how these murderers always “find god” after they’ve massacred numerous people, a life for a life should be the case worldwide
Yes, and after stating that they hated going to church, suddenly they are born again. Ridiculous.
Rob, I’m gonna need you to make these videos a little longer!! Like hourish, hour and a halfish!! Oh, I do love your voice so much!!!!!
Thanks
It’s expensive to make very long videos the research and cost would mean that they would need more patreons or more paid promotions.
That would be cool if the videos were longer.
I actually kind of like the 25 to 30 minute long videos because any longer and I just find there's just not enough content to fill that that's entertaining. I'd rather have a be concise and well written
@@gaylordpantamime exactly one hour plus and it just gets boring
I love this channel so much. I listen to them while doing house chores. You have no idea how helpful these vids are.
So do I
I listen while i attempt to go to sleep...notice i said attempt. These stories sometimes conjure nightmare.
At least you do chores and don’t complain and go shooting up the world cuz ur mad about it like these friggin punks LOL soooo ridic ! They were seriously disturbed..
@@katybug6572
Well, he killed his parents for making him do chores. I cannot find the person to blame for forcing me to do chores since I am an adult and live on my own. But I'm working on where I can place the blame and as soon as I find the SOB that's making me do laundry every week, I have some words for them.
@@ebonimom6964 LOL
After 3 years of subscribing, I still get excited when you upload a new video. Love this channel and your new podcast 😊
Wow, those are all horrible but that last one in France has left me breathless. Insanity.
Ahh the French!
One of the problems with psychopaths is the fact that you could be friends with one or at least know one without even knowing. They are very good at acting like expected and hiding how disturbing they are.
Moral of the story..It's not normal for your teen to be isolated and not be interested in dating,it also isn't a good idea to keep guns in the house..If you see a teen walking down the street with a rifle,take cover..If your friend is talking about killing their family,tell someone besides your other friends!
When I was a teenager I wasn't interested in dating
WTH is with hating chores so much you kill people????
It's prob not about that, it's just the straw that broke the camels back. If you're having issues, small stuff you'd cope with normally can seem overwhelming. Also teenage boys with issues act out & become aggressive whereas teen girls withdraw from people & isolate themselves.
Absolutely nuts Gavin gets to live his life!!!!
That pic of Erice is chilling. Those are some mean, evil eyes above that sneer.
The face of a killer alright.
Second one wasn't insane, he had a wig and makeup in his possession!
Therefore he knew what he had done and how it was wrong!
I used to hate doing dishes too but DAYUM!!!
If you really want to be a hard-ass strict parent, go right ahead. But be sure to regularly check your whole property for potential weapons (before the cops have to).....
Were these parents strict? Lenient parents can have the same effect on their children. There's just something with these kids.
Are you even paying attention to the video? These parents weren't strict at all. None of them hit their kids. Psychopaths just need a reason to let loose and then play the victim.
@@anandharshal22 "none of them were strict." You obviously have never grown up with catholic parents. it's people like you that would make pretty terrible parents that think the meaning of "strict" is limited to hitting.
The only part which you were correct is your last sentence.
Structure is bever a bad thing. No where did I see any evidence of hard ass strict parenting. Giving kids chores to clean up after themselves is not being strict thats called life. No one is gonna hand anyone anything on a silver platter and allowing your kid to think that way is actually extremely detrimental to their future. Lifes not fair and it never will be that doesnt mean you get mad and go off killing people. Jeez!!
@@anandharshal22 I’m pretty sure Eric the last one was abused by his mom
When I hear, “strict religious family” I know it won’t end well. 🤦🏻♀️
Yep. Same with "step" dad.
Funny that most crimes are committed by kids with no religious upbringing. Most felons hadn’t stepped foot in a house of worship in the year before they committed the crime that sent them to prison according to multiple studies on prisoners. Lol
read my comment about David Brom. My dad knew him.
I don't understand why we have a juvenile justice system if every time they "commit an adult crime" then what is the point? What's NOT an adult crime, stealing a candy bar?
yes probably candy stealing is all...I understand you.
I agree.
I'm sure there are plenty of juvenile crimes - stealing, assault, battery, light drug stuff, delinquency, truancy, playing with/carrying weapons without a license, involuntary manslaughter, dui's, hit and runs, driving without a license, causing accidents, etc etc. BUT when a young person executes a crime that is do heinous and evil and calculated and ruthless (something atypical of an average juvenile) their crime, punishment, and sentencing warrants special considerations. Just because someone is under aged doesn't mean they think like a kid. Some kids, I'm sure you know, act and think like adults - and in those special cases - I think trying them as adults makes sense. You almost answered your own questions though - when kids commit "adult" crimes - they get treated like adults.
Criminally Listed: '3 Kids Who Killed Their Families Part 3'
Me: Thank god I never had kids...although, I’ll probably die alone!
Settling into bed after a long day, got a little snack and my comfy jammies on.. oh perfect, killer kids on CL for a whole half hour! Thanks so much 💕
This comment seems to perfectly mirror your username. I enjoy CL in the same way.
Nothing like nightmare fuel.
This comment gave me lovely vibes 🤩
If anyone is curious as to why the first case is so lenient, it’s because our justice system in Canada is fucked. No matter what you’ve done, if you’ve killed a million people, they always give the opportunity for parole. It’s ridiculous.
Commonwealth countries. Australian and British justice systems are as bad.
Were you at the trial? If not then you have absolutely no proof as to why such a sentence was handed down.
Exactly the same here in England 😡
Read up on the topic. The Commonwealth justice system was “reformed” in the 70’s and 80’s and it’s a disaster.
@@leithx7595 Are you Canadian? Because if you would live here, you would understand this statement! IT'S A FACT! 😡🤬
Always amazing that you continue to dig up stories. I grew up about 5 hours from valleyview and i don't ever remember hearing anything about it
I don't think anyone is sane when they murder their entire family. It's just not human
Kids killing their parents, because they do not fear the chancla.
😆 🤣 🤣 Please!!
What is chancla?
@@nadzya22 A sandal, usually used for whooping your kid’s ass.
@Andrew Becker No. a chancla is a fucking sandal, used for corporal punishment in certain cultural households. Jesus, what are you on about
@Andrew Becker chancla means sandal you weirdo
What a waste of their lives.
RIP 💔 to all victims.
Terribly sad.
Wow, this one was intense.
Suicidal Tendencies were there to make Catholic dads mad!
"I went to your schools, I went to your churches, I went to your institutional learning facilities, so how how can you say I'm crazy?
I'M NOT CRAZY! INSTITUTION! YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S CRAZY! INSTITUTION!"
I don’t think concurrent sentence’s is something that should be offered.
Or parole
To me this devalues the other lives. I mean 10-life for killing 4 people is just 2 1/2 yrs per murder if he had done 10 yrs.
Gavin Mandin
now goes by the name
*Gavin Ian Maclean* & is released from prison, on parole which is located in the Ontario region of Canada.
May he stay on that side of the border.
"The police think that he was going to use the wig and makeup to disguise himself."
Noooo, really?
We have very similar names but in reverse 😜
As much as I enjoy and love your channel I don’t believe for one moment that your going to be playing June’s journey after this video
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omgggg lmaooooo
Who even cares? He's trying to make bank and you really think celebs use what they endorse? Michael Jordan ain't worn Haynes since he hit it big. Make your coin bc just bc you say you use it won't make me buy it.
Nobody plays that game! It's such s borefest.It's super easy and not at all addictive.
True 🤣🤣🤣
Great content and beautifully presented thanks for showing it 😊
"Oh, I'm sorry and I saw the light" defense gets them a short stay in Canada every time, 25 years for 4 dead is a short stay. The last one did the right thing only he did it too late, he should have started with himself.
Wearing that haircut David was obviously insane
Depends
I chuckled when I saw your comment, as I began watching the whole video, but then I saw David and his haircut and I began to roflmffao, because it was so obviously true and funny as well! Oh, man, seriously, had me dying! He really does look batshit crazy doesn't he??
Omg that's so wrong but it's so funny 😆 😆 😆
Raise your collective hands if you are sick of hearing Abuse as an excuse for committing such monstrous acts.
The 'abuse excuse' is old and worn out.
Oh wow. These were all new to me. It is incredible the evil in some people. Thank you for a video!
Especially eric..😱😱
@@sandrap7635 his photo is scary!
@@lillymom7909 Yes.. I was speechless watching these he definitely went on a rampage.
Why didn't Allan's mother notice the rifle in Eric's hand when she answered the door?
It's hunting season, so someone carrying a rifle wasn't out of the ordinary
21:00
I’ve been checking everyday every couple of hours . The moment is here!
Same 😭😭😭👌
Should listen to Criminally Listed's other channel, search for Chills
@@tucker2074 that's not him
That’s messed up in a good way me too, oh damn did I say that, me as well LOL,
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The 45 yr old Virgin. staring Gavin McClain
I live in Stillwater, Minnesota.. about 3-5 minutes away from where David Brom (the second case you covered) is locked up.. It was so weird hearing Stillwater in your video. I’ve never heard anyone cover that case before. Disgustingly tragic. You covered it well. Thanks for all you do!
My dad knew David Brom and the family personally. They were family friends. I wish that more info about this case and David came out. People need to know what was happening.
David was likely being sexually abused by a priest who has been convicted on sexually assaulting Alter boys. Joey Pateroucha was one of them as well, believe it or not!
I'm sure Gavin had several "romantic partners" while in prison.
Always picking the soap, huh ?? That's simply hilarious....
You need to cover Jeffrey Franklin. Happened down the street from my Aunt's house. I remember hanging out and seeing all the cop cars show up right down the road.
Okay. Intrigued. What happened?
There's an Episode of him on his channel and he Murdered his parents and tried to kill his siblings
I grew up in Madison and my friend went to Grissom with him!
He already covered that case.
I just can't fathom how someone could kill their entire family unless they are being abused there's really no logic to it at all but then physopaths and sociopaths dont have logic.
What? No way! Mysterious WV just uploaded too 😃 My lucky day
Thanks for the heads up!
Heading over to watch it as soon as this video is over!
That channel is awesome
If you have too many chores, why not run away, instead of killing everyone? The results are FAR less severe. BTW old chores are just replaced by new chores (scrounging for food, shelter etc) but w/o heating & A/C
Loving how far this channel has come
I remember the last story about Eric.
He is give me the creep. I was 14 at the time. I am glad he took is own life.
The last story is one reason why folks should have concealed carry permits. He could have been stopped. All gun free zones are dangerous. Because criminals can't be stopped by legal gun carriers. This story also proves why anti gun activists are wrong. Guns aren't dangerous to ppl. It's unstable ppl who are dangerous.
Seems to me Eric was mad at the world
I’m a new subscriber and I seriously love your videos! I’ve been binge watching for a couple days now. Thank you!!
I know how this might sound... but please read bedtime stories of about 45 minutes or so, that I can listen to before bed. I love your voice. It makes me so sleepy and calm.
Never miss a video love this channel
I'll just leave my loaded rifle lying around th house in case my angry teenage son feels inclined to use it....
True.
But he could've used knives, axe, etc. Which would have been worse in my opinion.
thank you for this - good job as usual!!
Yay! New video. Sounds weird, but I listen to this at bedtime. Big channel
Fan. Thank you.👏🏻🙏🏻⭐️🕵🏻♀️
Almost started playing June’s Journey before getting through the rest of this video.
Mandin granted parole after 21 years huh. Why exactly?
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If you're a model prisoner & express remorse you get out sooner. So, many offenders learn to do and say what the Parole Board want to hear. That's why you get 'he converted to christianity in prison' so often. A flagship US prison program to reform murderers found their re-offending rate actually went up. They simply learned to parrot what psychiatrists wanted to hear.
High dude you got me hooked on your videos well done keep it up stevie
The Brom murders took place in Rochester MN. I was only a couple of years older than David and remember the event quite well.
Glad you took my suggestion on David Brom I made under the last killer kids video. Got a pretty decent number of likes. I was local to the case at the time.
I actually heard his choice had nothing to do with your suggestion!
I’m sure you were the reason he chose David Brom.
Finally, thank you love your voice can't wait for the next one 💞
If your friend has mentioned killing their family for 6 fucking months why the fuck did they not say anything?! If someone would've came forward then the family would probably still be alive.
TUNING IN FROM MISSOURI 💙 CL... GREAT PODCAST 🧐🧐🧐
I am also from Missouri!
Ditto.
Hello from Ohio.
If you ever do another one of these, there was a kid in Huntsville Alabama named Jeffrey Franklin around 1998 that hacked up his whole family with a hatchet. Only a few blocks from my house. Crazy stuff.
How much ammo did the last kid carry!?! Damn!!
Great job covering some very sensitive murders that seem absolutely senseless!
Posing the possibilities is becoming your "calling card" ...you have a great mind for wondering why....and supplying your audience with the possible motives of the killer....and making them want to binge on your videos!!!! Guilty of binge watching, here!!!!
. Keep up the good work!
This video is a form of birth control.
😁 Well said!
A good deterrent to marrying someone with kids too
I know it says you cant always tell what a seriel killer looks like but i must admit i found the picture of the first case chilling.
Great video as always. If you are ever looking for a home town mystery Look up Brian Carrick of Johnsburg Ill. Strange case which to my knowledge still has not been solved
My Mom treated me like a slave, I don't remember learning laundry or cooking or cleaning. I always had done it. She never did the dishes, laundry, or any other chores. She would lay on the couch reading trash romance novels. When I grew up moved out, she had to hire a cleaning lady. Garbage parents exist. I hate how mothers are looked at as perfect, no matter how nasty they are
The long awaited moment gotta watch it once now and the later so I can fall asleep to his voice... hopefully that’ll help with insomnia.
Works every time
Same
Peter Thomas who narrates Forensic Files is my lullaby.
I dont care what age someone is, Life should mean Life. No parole. Ever.
“And since he’s dead, he can not explain why he committed these horrible acts”. Thanks for clarifying.
A close friend of mine who has been like family to me and my family and friends “ Was walking around talking to himself and carrying a walking stick with him that had biblical writers on it and then one day he walks into his moms house “ And something didn’t happen he liked and he beat her to death in the house until she apparently made it outside where he finished her in!!!? And then his son got off the school bus and the bus driver noticed something weird about the backyard of the house and called the law.When they arrived the found him laying on top of her covered in blood and talking about how the lord wanted him to kill the paramedic!!? So the arrested him and took him to jail where he finally came down from the Meth high he’d been on for days!!!? And she was the only person who cared about him!? Even though he treated her like shiat!!!? But hey “ Ya never know what a person is capable of!? Lol God bless ya all today Shalom
Wowza
I’m 32. Don’t have kids. And I feel a little better about that fact right now.
While case number one &!three are so-called settled, I personally don’t think David should ever be let out, although I didn’t think case number one should be able to roam free with an unidentified
indenting,but if the authorities did their job ,they’re watching him, MEH,,,thank you Criminally Listed for all your hard work, these three cases were definitely thinkers, here from Florida b safe all ✌🏻😷
“Eric was calm throughout his rampage.”
OMG David Broms eyes are soo cold and evil 😱🥶
That's not the church that David Brom went to, it's just a random church photo. He wasn't going to a Catholic school. He was going to school at John Marshall HS in Rochester Minnesota. He rode my bus and was one year ahead of me. His family went to the same church my family went to (Pax Christi).