I have a bad feeling HBO not giving full financial support to film full seasons and having more shows in production will lead to HOTD ending up like GOT
@@TalkingThronesThen season 2 of HOTD would of been over in about 30mins. Because the whole of season 2 was exactly 18pages out of the book and we would of had one scene for each Daemon, Alicent and Rhaenyra because they had less than 3 pages for all 3 of them combined. Plus the GOT book is a story where as HOTD book is told from the perspectives of 2 main different people and bits others aswel, George RR Martin explains this himself and says that HOTD is not accurate they could both have things right, but also could both be wrong on most things. Jesus it's been nearly months since it ended and was still one of the best things on this year at less than 10% of the budget of Rings of power and is still much better than that dog shite was. Yes it's not as good as game of thrones but I very much doubt anything will ever be that good. But if people keep moaning like this they will cancel future projects. Theres plenty of other things to moan about online or TV that are far more expensive and far worse than HOTD season 2. We who know roughly from the books will be well aware that season 2 was always going to be the worst one. Season 3 and 4 will be great and will be the best thing streamed that year in 2026.
God I tried watching this vid but when he showed the clip of the guy revealing the food on the boat sent by Rhaenyra I just couldn't be bothered to care lol.
But if they just copy the book they would have to do at least three simulatious parallel universes in one show. One for Mushrooms version of events, one for maester Yandal, and one for archmaester Gyldayn. AND all the other historical sources those last two cite which often contradict each other.
@EZLECORN-tx4iw I agree with you game of thrones is written as a historical fact. Where as HOTD is written as more of a story of different perspectives and even propaganda. Plus season 2 of HOTD was exactly 18 pages out of the book and if they done it by the book Daemon, Rhaenyra and Alicent would of had 1 scene each maximum for the entire season as they had less than a page each roughly for the entire second season. People seem to think that HOTD was written as fact like GOT was meant to be lol.
Some of us watching the show never even read the books. Probably why I love the show. For every movie that was made of a book that I had read, I was always disappointed with the film, and preferred the book.
I'm worried HBO might condense or omit crucial plot points in the third season to fit the episode count. However, I really hope season 3 will restore House of the Dragon to its proper glory.
Grrm already spoiled kill all Green with the most forgetable way stating with Helaena because at this point all they want is boss woman hero Daenerys type so she can fight for feminism so why they just end show with Rhaenyra kill Aegon with her big sword while Daemon laighs and everone cheer wooohoo big strong woman character who cares it dosen't matter anyway
Since they've said there will be 2 more seasons I doubt we'll be seeing this until the last season. Rhaenera only sat on the throne for like 6 months so.....
I'm surprised there wasn't a tunnel leading from the red keep to the dragon pit. The guards could have quickly and safely reached the dragon pit, then secured the area before the small folk attempted to storm it.
If HBO does this right this will be one of the coolest but saddest episodes, equivalent to the red wedding. I doubt they’ll have this part of next season. Maybe events leading up to this. However I see this being one of the episodes in season 4
Seasom 2 was a giant misstep when they desperately needed to deliver on the hype and give us a satisfying 8 episodes. They did not do this even a little bit😬😬
I think Season 2 was a big step back compared to Season 1. But the whole show is utterly garbage compared to GOT. Every sidecharacter in GOT is more interesting than HOD's Main Characters. I'd rather rewatch GOT for the 5 time than watch naother season of this nonsense.
It was literally a period of maybe less than a month meanwhile season 1 did 2 different time jumps skipping 16 yrs of writing that could have produced atleast 3 seasons alone
Where was Daemon an Caraxes or had the battle over the god's eye already happened This is why the dragons should never have been chained up as i don't think they are at dragonstone as in the show we see Seasmoke come an go , why does Marwin the mage say to samwell who do you think killed the dragons last time meaning the maestros if it was the Shepard
This is going to be a wild next season. There’s conflict: those fans who have read the books & those who haven’t. I am hoping Season 3 brings better storylines & shows us the tragedy of Rhaenyra’s arrogance getting all of her dragons killed.
So what? Ryan and her are just going to omit all the other battles and have them killed. Show over for me if so. How will the season open? Look at how it ended. A MAJOR BATTLE WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.
I dunno guys, at this rate out only hope might be an animated reboot. I liked some of the changes and didn’t mind others because I’m not a book purist, but there were parts of season two that made little to no sense and dialogue that should’ve been kept or enhanced. At this rate we’re only watching it for the dragons and not the plot. If HBO messes up the last two seasons it’ll kill any chance of us ever seeing a show about Aegon’s conquest, or any other of the stories created by Martin. Season one was a welcomed return to Westeros, season two left me feeling both excited but also deeply concerned.
I wouldn’t be surprised if HBO didn’t have the budget for this part next season they’re gonna build up them about kill the dragons in episode 8 and just end the show saving it for season 4 lol 😂
To be fair it wasn't total garbage. Coulda been better and they ruined a couple things for different reasons. Some of which was HBO screwing them on $ unexpectedly but some decisions and changes were quite frankly awful and baffling. But comparing it to 99% of other TV shows out there in 2023.... I still felt it was worth watching at least.
Unfortunately HBO and it's writers dont feel any need to honour the source material. The woke crowd firmly has the steering wheel, the Velaryons change amongst other ridiculous plot changes have shown the complete contempt for the original story......sad, just sad.
I don’t know if it’s true, but I did hear that HOTD was all written for several seasons because of the disaster of GOT final season 😮 I’m sure we all feel the same way about the ending of that show-10 years! I didn’t want to get invested again, but decided I would with Yellowstone and now they have killed off a main character 😞 I think I’m going to just stick with movies or rewatch Netflix series-Hill House and Bly Manor are both pretty damn good 😊 If anyone knows of something that is good and has a pretty great, understandable ending, please let me know! Apple TV has some good ones-Shrinking-dark comedy and Servant-scary/horror but not gory. I also liked the Witcher series but now that Henry is gone, I’m not looking forward to season 3 at all. Severance on Apple is pretty good too but you’re going to want season 2, don’t know release date yet, thanks 🙏 Oh with this show-I was confused how Rhanerya didn’t know bastards could fly dragons because 2 of her sons fly and their only half Targaryen so I didn’t get her doing all that research in books and looking for distant relatives when she could have asked Princess Rayneyes about it, just sayin I dunno 🤷♀️
Without watching or reading. I'm just going to say it/guess it here. Dalton Greyjoy aka Red Kraken. EDIT. I was wrong. But yeah the Shepherd causes probably the most seminal event for House Targaryen.
This show went to crap real quick. It's why I don't, and probably won't, watch Dunk and Egg. I love those stories the most, and I don't want them ruined by HBO like the other two. WB is broke. HBO isn't doing the shows justice. I'm slowly falling out of love with it now because of HBO.
Ok this channel getting blocked. Where the hell is the preview?!?! You’re just going by the books and how many times do you people have to learn that hbo does not always go by the books.
Wow! I'm glad your viewership is skyrocketing. I think your videos are much better than Morning Joe. I got sick of Joe interrupting Mika to babble about his cheesed*ck band and sport teams.
@@asiryahkamar6974 it's why I can't agree with The Book Fan Base on this. If everyone has their Own Account of what happened, then Everyone's Version of what happened can be accounted.. even TV Series Adaptation. George has No One to blame but himself.
Second Season Sucked, so probably won't be watching it.. Especially since you pumped the 2nd season up so much and it sucked so much.. How much they pay you for these videos? to pump this series up like you did?
It’s NOT looking good for Game of Thrones fans with these current show runners and writers…I miss the gritty world Westeros was S1-S4 of Game of Thrones….the race-swapping needs to stop also…HotD has been a great disappointment, only 4 mins of S2 were bearable and they were in the north.
This is not a preview. This is completely misleading. You have no idea what's going to happen in season 3, and you can't go by the existing literature as you well know.
Im a chick and I am appalled by Hess hatred for Daemons masculinity!! Emma D'arcy predatory kiss with Mysaria actress was unscriped, this ridiculous FEAR of questioning Woke culture has to Stop, because if Matt Smith did this, Hess would file suit IMMEDIATELY 😑 She treated the whole season like a Sundance Film festival project 🤦♀️ Please re negotiate with Miguel Sapochnik
I have a bad feeling HBO not giving full financial support to film full seasons and having more shows in production will lead to HOTD ending up like GOT
I hope that doesn't happen 😕
By removing maelor Targaryen ( aegons other son ) and nettles, if you’ve read the books then you know they’ve completely fucked it
HoD is already dead brother.
Too late
There's a universe out there where GOT and HOTD have good writing consistently. We aren't living in that universe.
It should be simple. Just copy the answers in the books.
@@TalkingThronesThen season 2 of HOTD would of been over in about 30mins. Because the whole of season 2 was exactly 18pages out of the book and we would of had one scene for each Daemon, Alicent and Rhaenyra because they had less than 3 pages for all 3 of them combined. Plus the GOT book is a story where as HOTD book is told from the perspectives of 2 main different people and bits others aswel, George RR Martin explains this himself and says that HOTD is not accurate they could both have things right, but also could both be wrong on most things. Jesus it's been nearly months since it ended and was still one of the best things on this year at less than 10% of the budget of Rings of power and is still much better than that dog shite was. Yes it's not as good as game of thrones but I very much doubt anything will ever be that good. But if people keep moaning like this they will cancel future projects. Theres plenty of other things to moan about online or TV that are far more expensive and far worse than HOTD season 2. We who know roughly from the books will be well aware that season 2 was always going to be the worst one. Season 3 and 4 will be great and will be the best thing streamed that year in 2026.
God I tried watching this vid but when he showed the clip of the guy revealing the food on the boat sent by Rhaenyra I just couldn't be bothered to care lol.
But if they just copy the book they would have to do at least three simulatious parallel universes in one show. One for Mushrooms version of events, one for maester Yandal, and one for archmaester Gyldayn. AND all the other historical sources those last two cite which often contradict each other.
@EZLECORN-tx4iw I agree with you game of thrones is written as a historical fact. Where as HOTD is written as more of a story of different perspectives and even propaganda. Plus season 2 of HOTD was exactly 18 pages out of the book and if they done it by the book Daemon, Rhaenyra and Alicent would of had 1 scene each maximum for the entire season as they had less than a page each roughly for the entire second season. People seem to think that HOTD was written as fact like GOT was meant to be lol.
The most dangerous characters in Westeros: Ryan Condal & Sara Hess
😂😂😂
benioff and weiss
I wonder if we could fire Sara Hess specially for ruining Daemon
@swetamahanta7Hell yeah give us the Rogue Prince 🤴 I want season 1 daemon
Especially Sara Hess
The incompetence and arrogance of these writer's is astounding. One by one, they're re-writing our favorite literature into complete garbage.
Some of us watching the show never even read the books. Probably why I love the show.
For every movie that was made of a book that I had read, I was always disappointed with the film, and preferred the book.
@@richardc8795it’s good regardless. The book for this part of this show is just a few pages. People just like to cry
I'm worried HBO might condense or omit crucial plot points in the third season to fit the episode count. However, I really hope season 3 will restore House of the Dragon to its proper glory.
They don't want to finance full season so they'll probably cut more content again and push it to season 4
Grrm already spoiled kill all Green with the most forgetable way stating with Helaena because at this point all they want is boss woman hero Daenerys type so she can fight for feminism so why they just end show with Rhaenyra kill Aegon with her big sword while Daemon laighs and everone cheer wooohoo big strong woman character who cares it dosen't matter anyway
@@queenxx1690good ending
I’ve never read the book. I find it glorious from beginning to end. 🤷
Since they've said there will be 2 more seasons I doubt we'll be seeing this until the last season. Rhaenera only sat on the throne for like 6 months so.....
I'm surprised there wasn't a tunnel leading from the red keep to the dragon pit. The guards could have quickly and safely reached the dragon pit, then secured the area before the small folk attempted to storm it.
The number one channel for all things Westeros! Keep up the great content!
If HBO does this right this will be one of the coolest but saddest episodes, equivalent to the red wedding. I doubt they’ll have this part of next season. Maybe events leading up to this. However I see this being one of the episodes in season 4
Sounds like the High Sparrow of the House d Dragon
Seasom 2 was a giant misstep when they desperately needed to deliver on the hype and give us a satisfying 8 episodes.
They did not do this even a little bit😬😬
I think Season 2 was a big step back compared to Season 1. But the whole show is utterly garbage compared to GOT. Every sidecharacter in GOT is more interesting than HOD's Main Characters. I'd rather rewatch GOT for the 5 time than watch naother season of this nonsense.
It was literally a period of maybe less than a month meanwhile season 1 did 2 different time jumps skipping 16 yrs of writing that could have produced atleast 3 seasons alone
That’s going to look great on screen.
Well that was sad.
Where was Daemon an Caraxes or had the battle over the god's eye already happened
This is why the dragons should never have been chained up as i don't think they are at dragonstone as in the show we see Seasmoke come an go , why does Marwin the mage say to samwell who do you think killed the dragons last time meaning the maestros if it was the Shepard
Daemons dead before these events happen. Season 3 is his last.
@@umainebearman😢
Daemon is the most dangerous character in Westeros. That's a direct quote. Lol
No way. Look what vermithor did to those people. They would burn them all
They who? You mean She?
This is going to be a wild next season. There’s conflict: those fans who have read the books & those who haven’t. I am hoping Season 3 brings better storylines & shows us the tragedy of Rhaenyra’s arrogance getting all of her dragons killed.
So what? Ryan and her are just going to omit all the other battles and have them killed. Show over for me if so. How will the season open? Look at how it ended. A MAJOR BATTLE WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.
I dunno guys, at this rate out only hope might be an animated reboot. I liked some of the changes and didn’t mind others because I’m not a book purist, but there were parts of season two that made little to no sense and dialogue that should’ve been kept or enhanced. At this rate we’re only watching it for the dragons and not the plot. If HBO messes up the last two seasons it’ll kill any chance of us ever seeing a show about Aegon’s conquest, or any other of the stories created by Martin. Season one was a welcomed return to Westeros, season two left me feeling both excited but also deeply concerned.
I wouldn’t be surprised if HBO didn’t have the budget for this part next season they’re gonna build up them about kill the dragons in episode 8 and just end the show saving it for season 4 lol 😂
I don't want to watch the dragons die so I probably won't bother with the next season. Season 2 was garbage honestly.
To be fair it wasn't total garbage. Coulda been better and they ruined a couple things for different reasons. Some of which was HBO screwing them on $ unexpectedly but some decisions and changes were quite frankly awful and baffling. But comparing it to 99% of other TV shows out there in 2023.... I still felt it was worth watching at least.
I agree , I’m done
@@Nick-kn6ilto be fair it wasn't that good of a show and all the things you mentioned just made it that much worse .
shepherd = high sparrow mixed with diogenes
Unfortunately HBO and it's writers dont feel any need to honour the source material.
The woke crowd firmly has the steering wheel, the Velaryons change amongst other ridiculous plot changes have shown the complete contempt for the original story......sad, just sad.
What is "the woke crowd"?
@lrlavalais2068 Genuine questions only please....
@@gregnagy7569 It is a genuine question, actually.
@@gregnagy7569Agreed. What is the “woke crowd”? What does that mean?
Same answer...genuine questions only..
Ok only 1 minute into your update... I'm already holy shite n really ready for what is coming . Crazy crak will happen Hugs your the best 😀❤
That's savage. 😳
This universe is brutal
I think that will be in season 4
It’s gonna be changed so dramatically tho i promise you 😒
I don’t know if it’s true, but I did hear that HOTD was all written for several seasons because of the disaster of GOT final season 😮 I’m sure we all feel the same way about the ending of that show-10 years! I didn’t want to get invested again, but decided I would with Yellowstone and now they have killed off a main character 😞 I think I’m going to just stick with movies or rewatch Netflix series-Hill House and Bly Manor are both pretty damn good 😊 If anyone knows of something that is good and has a pretty great, understandable ending, please let me know! Apple TV has some good ones-Shrinking-dark comedy and Servant-scary/horror but not gory. I also liked the Witcher series but now that Henry is gone, I’m not looking forward to season 3 at all. Severance on Apple is pretty good too but you’re going to want season 2, don’t know release date yet, thanks 🙏 Oh with this show-I was confused how Rhanerya didn’t know bastards could fly dragons because 2 of her sons fly and their only half Targaryen so I didn’t get her doing all that research in books and looking for distant relatives when she could have asked Princess Rayneyes about it, just sayin I dunno 🤷♀️
Will not be returning to westeros for a 3rd season. Im done with live action GoT content. Just gonna wait for the next book.
How have I never heard this? I have literally googled and searched “ what happened to the old dragons?” And this never came up
Well, after season 8 there were fewer people putting that (new) information online.
Lets GET it!
I see parallels between the shephard and the high sparrow
No thanks, why watch something if we know what the end result is going to be a crap ending
Well, there is what 16 battles on dance of the dragons. We have seen 2
HBO fire Ryan Condal and Sara Hess and Greeta Vasant Patel immediately!!. Bring Miguel Back immediately and Greg Yaitanes
The most dangerous character is myself with excel open and Mr Talking Thrones in the earphones, happy clients since 2017
I love George. The death.
They won’t have any budget for all the impactful things that are supposed to happen
The shepard needs a funeral
I have faith in Sarra Heiss. She'll find a way to f*ck S3 up.
Without watching or reading. I'm just going to say it/guess it here. Dalton Greyjoy aka Red Kraken.
EDIT. I was wrong. But yeah the Shepherd causes probably the most seminal event for House Targaryen.
HBO ruined house of the dragon
You do understand there would be no House of the Dragon, without HBO?
@ good
Nope
That is factually untrue.
I would say they are ruining it as opposed to ruined it could get better
Season 1 was great. Season 2 was a letdown. I really hope they fix it in season 3.
This show went to crap real quick. It's why I don't, and probably won't, watch Dunk and Egg. I love those stories the most, and I don't want them ruined by HBO like the other two. WB is broke. HBO isn't doing the shows justice. I'm slowly falling out of love with it now because of HBO.
They would all burn
Ill probably watch season 3 but I am not invested. I am guessing it will be disappointing.
People who haven’t read HOTD do not know what a horrible person Rhaynera actually was .
Ok this channel getting blocked. Where the hell is the preview?!?! You’re just going by the books and how many times do you people have to learn that hbo does not always go by the books.
Just like GOT
Why Alicent looks too old in this?
Wow! I'm glad your viewership is skyrocketing. I think your videos are much better than Morning Joe. I got sick of Joe interrupting Mika to babble about his cheesed*ck band and sport teams.
This is No Way to tell a Story. Rumours and 3rd hand Accounts. 😒
This alone- if it’s even true made me not want to watch the next season at all
@@asiryahkamar6974 it's why I can't agree with The Book Fan Base on this. If everyone has their Own Account of what happened, then Everyone's Version of what happened can be accounted.. even TV Series Adaptation.
George has No One to blame but himself.
After what we got with Jon Snow, i never watched not one episode of this garbage. George needs to give us those damn books. This is ridiculous.
Bring that 🔥🔥
Second Season Sucked, so probably won't be watching it..
Especially since you pumped the 2nd season up so much and it sucked so much..
How much they pay you for these videos? to pump this series up like you did?
10:18 Wouldn't happen. These peasants somehow survived dragon fire x 4
Laughable. No wonder he can't finish ASOIAF
HOTD S2Ep8= GOT S8
T...T !!!!!!!
Max needs to cancel this show before season 3 before they further break our hearts 💔
It’s NOT looking good for Game of Thrones fans with these current show runners and writers…I miss the gritty world Westeros was S1-S4 of Game of Thrones….the race-swapping needs to stop also…HotD has been a great disappointment, only 4 mins of S2 were bearable and they were in the north.
What does “race-swapping” have to do with the storyline?
Shows kinda dirt ngl
First
first
This is not a preview. This is completely misleading. You have no idea what's going to happen in season 3, and you can't go by the existing literature as you well know.
Im a chick and I am appalled by Hess hatred for Daemons masculinity!! Emma D'arcy predatory kiss with Mysaria actress was unscriped, this ridiculous FEAR of questioning Woke culture has to Stop, because if Matt Smith did this, Hess would file suit IMMEDIATELY 😑 She treated the whole season like a Sundance Film festival project 🤦♀️ Please re negotiate with Miguel Sapochnik
Yeah God forbid men act like men and women act like women.