this is the exact kind of song that makes non-Bemani players ragequit just by watching it. Honestly. Can you get any harder than this? I bet Bemani's plotting something to spite us at this moment just to make our jaws drop.
6 years ago, not a player: I can never do this 5 years ago: can barely clear level 11/12 song: I can never do this Nowadays, can hard clear Mei and Himiko, can easy clear some overjoy songs: I can never hard clear this (normal clear done)
@@Pokaroquai I have already EXH cleared Bad Maniacs [Another] and MENDES [Another] without much effort. The real problem is MENDES [Black Another]. It will take 10 more years for me to hard clear it, or 3-5 more years if practice everyday like professional pianist. At worst case, I can never hard clear it because of physical limit of my body. At insane BMS scale, MENDES [Black Another] is at overjoy5 level or insane26 level to hard clear, but easy clear or normal clear is like insane18-20. Which means, if I can clear FDFD, I may try hard clear MENDES [Black Another]. I can barely hard clear insane16-17 songs.
@SolBuster Yes there is. DDR has course mode.. but I have to agree that there aren't that many notes on 4 panels on one song. Enough arguing... Why argue about two games created by one company when both are enjoyable? No matter which game it is we should all just have fun playing them, right?
@Nomerico Can you do all those steps as fast as the speed is in this video? Last time I checked humans don't have 8 feet. Is there really a song that has 2600 notes on a game that only has 4 note slots? You cannot really play like IIDX with your feet.You would break your neck.
@KillaHitman Why does everyone say that the eye can only see 30fps? If you've played many games you'd realize that some games are smoother than others because of their framerate, hence the eye can see MORE than 30fps. Play CoD (60fps) and then go back to a game like Infamous, Uncharted 2, or even Fallout 3 (30, 24 fps) and tell me that the animation/frame rate is not different than the other.
Imagine my surprise when I watched the first minute and realized the Black Another was on the right. Holy crap. I thought it was showing the Black Another on both sides lmao...
@DyGenKaiser Well for pretty much any Bemani games, you need to practice a lot and a lot before you start getting good, but once you get to a higher level, the games become so fun because you are proud of you and your skills...Some people simply don't want to spend time practicing...
@OneWingedGamer18 until you touch them X/X2 pads and realize there is no way in hell you'll play DDR games again if your in NA on NA pads from SN2 onwards
Err...most of their games ARE hard. The one hit deaths on Contra, the extremely hard puzzles on Silent Hill, DDR's over exercising music, MGS's european extreme difficulty...
@KillaHitman consider that note density calculation are really inaccurate when taking the whole song into consideration, if you calculate NPS for the harder parts it'll be much more Kinda like for the hard part of GO BEYOND!! which is 30 NPS for 10 seconds. insaaane
I know it started since Gold AC where both sides can select different difficulty, but the thing is that feature wasn't brought into CS releases at all. Not in Gold CS, nor in DJT CS. O_o?
someone hard clear this with auto-scratch. And someone fail in the last part without auto-scratch. I think someone will hard clear this soon. for himiko, it have been AAAed.
@Jtwj7181 You sure? I think it is Konami's way of telling everyone else they suck. AND a damn good way too because this crap can't be done by anyone playing any of those Hero games.
I wouldnt say distinctive instruments more like a sound that happens at that time. For some/most of the 12s they just add extra notes just to make it hard/lulz.
lol i have never seen this game before but i guess u press buttons when the bar hits u. i mean in that case IS THAT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A HUMAN? my eyes cant even keep up
@BaddtraxxWorxx the games beatmania man, the background is made by konami themselves for this game. though it may hav similarities to lets say zone of enders or other robot themed game, the background is 100 percent beatmania.
黒麺がもう既にフルコンされているという驚愕の事実・・・
人類はどこへ向かうのだろうか？
至極当然のように三連打の縦連が降ってくる上にほぼ常時二連の縦連が降って来ててS乱涙目な譜面構成に加えこの密度はどうしようもない、、、(H乱かけてもクリア出来ない勢の意見)
果たして黒譜面がACに移植される日は来るのだろうか…
黒譜面がACに移植されたらノーツ数も１位、譜面密度も１位、FC達成率最難関、AAA獲得率最難関、クリア率も最難関となりそう。
ちなみにACに移植された場合、平均密度のトップ３曲は
１、黒MENDES（22.07/秒）
２、Verflucht（21.83/秒）
３、KAISER PHENIX（20.5/秒）
となる。
Oお忘れですよ
2Pの黒譜面見ながら手をワシャワシャの練習をずっと繰り返したら、2P譜面を見て1Pの動きができるようになってきた
最初何が違うの？って思いながら見ていた次の瞬間黒の密度が爆上がりして顔が終わった
映像が怒首領蜂大復活のヒバチみたいだ
それは俺も同感だ
難所のみ合わせて "約1分間BPM168の16分シングル捌き続ける"
→実質BPM336の要求速度
＋
1分50秒で2626ノーツ（中盤がっつり休憩ありながら
商業音ゲー内だとぶっちぎりの難易度だろうな
黒譜面、人類には早すぎる最強難易度…
絶対プロゲーマーでさえ序盤、若しくは後半いく前で詰む
this is the exact kind of song that makes non-Bemani players ragequit just by watching it. Honestly. Can you get any harder than this? I bet Bemani's plotting something to spite us at this moment just to make our jaws drop.
確かにこれは初見の人には「ええええええええッ！！？」ってなるだろうな・・・マジ狂ってる・・・！
man megu
フルコン出てるで
未だに全音ゲー中最強譜面の座を守り続ける黒麺DESさん...
yo-clochhee _d44 未だに最強なのか...
商業音ゲーなら間違いなく最難
全音ゲーならbmsでしょ
@@k_piggparty 同人ゲーを持ち出すのはちょっと違うんじゃないか？
ジャンル違うがPump it upとかいう韓国の音ゲー、判定の緩さを除けばとんでもない難易度してる
完全に偏見だけど、黒麺AC移植希望してる人に黒麺の1番難しいとされる要素を聞いてもまともに答えられなさそう(ノーツ数って答えそう)
0:55 i love this
i love the part at 1:15
the piano and drums, its so epic
like something from a classic japanese snes game
ノーツ数ばかり注目されがちだけど配置自体も相当酷い
召雷 2626...
How is it possible to play Another on one side and black another on the other?
6 years ago, not a player: I can never do this
5 years ago: can barely clear level 11/12 song: I can never do this
Nowadays, can hard clear Mei and Himiko, can easy clear some overjoy songs: I can never hard clear this (normal clear done)
Great to listen your progress
Good job 👍
Great job!
THANK YOU FOR PLAYING!
Now try play Bad Maniacs if you can, Good Luck!
@@Pokaroquai I have already EXH cleared Bad Maniacs [Another] and MENDES [Another] without much effort.
The real problem is MENDES [Black Another]. It will take 10 more years for me to hard clear it, or 3-5 more years if practice everyday like professional pianist. At worst case, I can never hard clear it because of physical limit of my body.
At insane BMS scale, MENDES [Black Another] is at overjoy5 level or insane26 level to hard clear, but easy clear or normal clear is like insane18-20. Which means, if I can clear FDFD, I may try hard clear MENDES [Black Another].
I can barely hard clear insane16-17 songs.
@@SarenArterius how are you now? did you give up on your quest or did you succeed?
@@harmonicposting Yeah still nope. I would have to practice 30 hours everyday for that.
I love how the notes mean youre shooting the boss
Second question, are the quantities of notes in the chords correct? Like, whenever 5-6 notes come up are that many distinctive instruments playing?
長年の時が経ち実際Hardクリアも出てるし、そろそろLEGGENDARIAで出そう
ACに来たら炎上しそう😅
仮に出るとしても少し弱体化しないと(叩かれるから)いけないし
したとしても既に既存の黒麺ハードしてる人からしたら「大したことない」し
逆にハード苦労してる人からすれば「クソムズい」って思うだろうから
レジェンダリアとして出すくらいなら伝説としてCSだけにすればいいと思うよ(INFは別)
まぁマレネクタリスとかX-DENとかいう物量最難譜面が来てるし
最近だと皆伝ゴリラであるハ○ーさんの曲がアレな譜面が出てきたし
不正な席数†とか座鈴棒†とかも出てるから
そろそろ時間の問題かなぁ....？
what is the background games name?
大丈夫だ。黒麺星人が襲いかかってきても、俺らには立ち向かえる人類がいることを忘れてはいけない。
What's the english translation for the name of the new difficulty level?
It's konami's way of saying thank you for playing beatmania.
最後全押し入るの草。どこにそんなキー音あるねん。
全AC音ゲーの頂点
黒はCSか
go berserkとどっちが強いんだろ...?
なるへそ。
HI_DE Corruption egoismよりParanoiaの方が難しくないか？
脱水少女 いやEGOIZMの方がむずいですよ個人的はegoizm>パラレボ>ポゼッション>ヴァルキリーですね。
the only overjoy
yeah like anything is impossible for dolce. so saryou plays home version ehh? i wanna check it out.
@SolBuster Yes there is. DDR has course mode.. but I have to agree that there aren't that many notes on 4 panels on one song. Enough arguing... Why argue about two games created by one company when both are enjoyable? No matter which game it is we should all just have fun playing them, right?
イカも鎌も来たとは言ってもこれはACに来ちゃダメだと思います
[B] = Black, or Kuro (which is black in Japanese)
...So how about Ura charts (as used in DL-able BMS files)?
I've decided, I'm going to just start having to scratch with my foot... Cause this whole 2-handed style just isn't working out for me.
Anyone who plays DJ Hero who sees this will bow down to this game!!!
@Nomerico Can you do all those steps as fast as the speed is in this video? Last time I checked humans don't have 8 feet.
Is there really a song that has 2600 notes on a game that only has 4 note slots?
You cannot really play like IIDX with your feet.You would break your neck.
@KillaHitman Why does everyone say that the eye can only see 30fps? If you've played many games you'd realize that some games are smoother than others because of their framerate, hence the eye can see MORE than 30fps. Play CoD (60fps) and then go back to a game like Infamous, Uncharted 2, or even Fallout 3 (30, 24 fps) and tell me that the animation/frame rate is not different than the other.
please bring black another at IIDX arcade. I'm pretty sure that chart would be have most notes of the history with 2626
0:55-1:32 GOD tier melody
I like how there is another combo meter over the notes, just to make this game even harder.
@KevinLetsPlayFrance Stepmania? You are saying that the game in this video is stepmania? You are kidding right?
then play an easier song, just because really hard songs exist doesn't mean you need to play them.
音ゲー階で一番難しい曲だと思うぜ！
ほんとそれな
DIFFICULTY NAME COMPARE DDR vs IIDX
Beginner (or Novice) = Beginner (or Easy)
Basic (or Standard) = Normal
Difficult (or Advanced) = Hyper
Expert = Another (or Extra)
Master = Leggendaria (or Special)
Challenge = Unique (or Upper)
challenge＝master
Yeah, because I'm thinking there's no way the climax of mendes has 6 distinctive sounds going at once plus the turntable
Ok the Black Another chart looks fucking scary
DJMAX「感銘を受けて黒めんよりノーツ多い曲実装しました！！！！」
@KevinLetsPlayFrance Oh,sorry about that then.
You are right,IIDX is absolutely nothing like Stepmania.
looks at left side, still ok, looks at the right. runs to bathroom *puke* returns to finish the video looking on the left side.
Ya think?
Imagine my surprise when I watched the first minute and realized the Black Another was on the right. Holy crap. I thought it was showing the Black Another on both sides lmao...
Same
曲 AAA
BGA AAA
画質 AAA
譜面 fffff
did somemone passed this yet? on the other hand, did someone get a high score on himiko yet?
It's by Yoshitaka...not Tatsh
It's not 14 key.
It's single Another on 1P side, single B-Another on 2P side.
つけ麺DES
@DyGenKaiser Well for pretty much any Bemani games, you need to practice a lot and a lot before you start getting good, but once you get to a higher level, the games become so fun because you are proud of you and your skills...Some people simply don't want to spend time practicing...
is this a goddamn overjoy?
見えないってｗｗ
黒麺、完全にノーツの爆撃地帯
However the "flying mendeship" video is showing both side's notehealth bar together. Hm?
That's why playing in arcade is in fact easier.
@OneWingedGamer18 until you touch them X/X2 pads and realize there is no way in hell you'll play DDR games again if your in NA on NA pads from SN2 onwards
@Lonestar1786 Dude, you think this is harder? Try doing more than 2600 notes using your FEET!
hahahaha mr. mendes and mrs. himiko make a lovely couple. i got a feeling theyll make a mean offspring soon.
almagest?
@aotsukisho getting to level 8 and about is not difficult but getting out of easy 10's to hard 10's and about is really hard.
He probably took two videos and edited them together.
これは発狂bms
Imagine if Mei had Black Another... AHHHHH
the guy who can come through the right hand side must be too desperate to live.
Err...most of their games ARE hard. The one hit deaths on Contra, the extremely hard puzzles on Silent Hill, DDR's over exercising music, MGS's european extreme difficulty...
RAGさんにより鳥A達成される。人類怖いｗ
Ragの50倍歴代持ってるkkmがbmsで2年前にMAXマイナス出してるよ
@@ああ-l8n3r BMSとCSDJTで比べる時点でお門違い
@@nanashinashinashi らぐさんringでkkmにボコされてましたね kkmさんならもっと出せると思いました！
@@ああ-l8n3r あれーBMSって本家の曲ないはずなんですけどねー比べる対象が(*^^*)
そもそもbmsのノーマル判定とcddjtの判定は全然違うからな
それにもし仮にACに移植出されたとしてもbms並みにスコア出るわけがない
@yamitech on black another no but on regular another 2 people has the last time i checked
@KillaHitman
consider that note density calculation are really inaccurate when taking the whole song into consideration, if you calculate NPS for the harder parts it'll be much more
Kinda like for the hard part of GO BEYOND!! which is 30 NPS for 10 seconds.
insaaane
I know it started since Gold AC where both sides can select different difficulty, but the thing is that feature wasn't brought into CS releases at all. Not in Gold CS, nor in DJT CS. O_o?
someone hard clear this with auto-scratch. And someone fail in the last part without auto-scratch. I think someone will hard clear this soon.
for himiko, it have been AAAed.
IIDX is the most difficult bit game, stepmania is child's game next to IIDX.
↓皆伝成り立てレベルなら黒麺はBP200以上でても全然不思議じゃないよ。動画はある程度だけど上がってるよ。発狂bmsラーかトップランカーのが殆どだけど
成りたてでBP200は相当うまい
400〜500出てもおかしくない
@Jtwj7181 You sure? I think it is Konami's way of telling everyone else they suck. AND a damn good way too because this crap can't be done by anyone playing any of those Hero games.
I wouldnt say distinctive instruments more like a sound that happens at that time. For some/most of the 12s they just add extra notes just to make it hard/lulz.
ワチャワチャの中に縦連置くんじゃねぇやしw
I think watching this just broke my brain for a second.
0:49?????
lol i have never seen this game before but i guess u press buttons when the bar hits u. i mean in that case IS THAT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A HUMAN? my eyes cant even keep up
*looks at 2p side chart
*shits pants
回復地帯が地味に回復じゃないんだよな
後にアーケード版でエキスパート経由からのレジェンダリア化するんだろうねぇ、『伝説の剣たち』を差し置いて、、、。
if someone did that FC Great.. konami should give them a complimentary machine >_>
If beatmania became a Shmup it would be Gradius.
Touhou Exists
@RideMyLines , nah...... rly?
密度どうなってんだ
何で黒麺のフルコンと鳥がいるのか不思議
WHAT THE FUCK HAHAHAHAHAHA
Another (1P) versus Leggendaria (2P)
Compared to Black Another, "normal" Another looks rather AAA-ble.
0:49ここほんまぁおかしい
O_O
lo voglio sto gioco!!!
ma in italia non esiste!? x3
@renanmenezes93 inb4 all games songs is megaman
I would like to see someone FC that on a PS2 controller.
@BaddtraxxWorxx
the games beatmania man, the background is made by konami themselves for this game. though it may hav similarities to lets say zone of enders or other robot themed game, the background is 100 percent beatmania.
wonderful
@RideMyLines Stepmania took me a year to get to level 13, IIDX took me two years to get to level 8