PRR Tubular Keystones

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
  • There’s a little known trend that a handful of railroads partook in during the middle of passenger rail’s decline in the late 50s, as small, lightweight coaches were trialed on new passenger trains to look more sleek and to lighten the amount of wear on increasingly worse tracks. Not to be outdone by their northeastern neighbors, the Pennsylvania Railroad worked with the Budd Company to create a unique combination of coaches with lightweight design with a low center of gravity, but were not articulated and were hauled by an existing engine. Only eight of these coaches were built, as they had a somewhat mysterious career after brief passenger service on the Pennsy, as they were some of the last coaches to be constructed by Budd before the formation of Amtrak. This, is the little known story of the Pennsylvania Railroad's Keystone coaches, also known as the Tubular Train.
    Credit for all photos used go to their respective photographers.
    Copyright Disclaimer under Section 107 of the copyright act 1976: allowance is made for fair use for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use.
    Music Used in Order:
    Jazz Mango - Joey Pecoraro
    A Trip Around The Moon - Unicorn Heads
    Hello Mr. Princeton - Otis McDonald
    Fantasyland - Quincas Moreira

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  • @pennsyrailfan
    @pennsyrailfan 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Me waiting for the tubular cars to come out in HO scale: (it's never gonna happen)

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Pinned because Pennsy fan commenting on a Pennsy fan's video about the Pennsy.

    • @pennsyrailfan
      @pennsyrailfan 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@Pensyfan19 pennsyception

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@pennsyrailfan By the way, today's your lucky day because...
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    • @pennsyrailfan
      @pennsyrailfan 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Pensyfan19 yoooo can't wait to spend 5k for a full set

    • @michaeldennis1728
      @michaeldennis1728 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed - but - maybe Rapido will take up the challenge.

  • @michaeldennis1728
    @michaeldennis1728 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I rode on the Keystones on the NEC between Washington DC and Philadelphia in the late 60s. The ride quality gave new meaning to the term “rock and roll.”

  • @stephenkeever6029
    @stephenkeever6029 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nicely done with good research and images.

  • @JessicaKasumi1990
    @JessicaKasumi1990 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    4:04 Pennsy cars and the Twin Towers! EPIC!! And great time stamp.

  • @nysubwaydude5634
    @nysubwaydude5634 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember in the movie 2018 film The Commuter. The Metro North fictional EMU in that film look like they are based of the Pioneer passenger car and mix with Njt Arrow iii emu features.

  • @FreihEitner
    @FreihEitner 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Totally tubular! I never knew these cars existed, so thank you for the education.

  • @Ostermond
    @Ostermond 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    YES! A video on these funny fellas!

  • @F40M07
    @F40M07 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you for getting this video out. I ran a train in an RO Scale game with these and was wondering what the hell these were.

  • @kptrains
    @kptrains 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great video 👍Enjoyed watching these captures

  • @00Zy99
    @00Zy99 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Quick clarification regarding the EMU derivatives:
    In 1958, the PRR ordered six new EMUs based on the Pioneer III design, which were thus named Pioneer III. They were incompatible with older rolling stock due to their innovative rectifier controls. These were the last new passenger equipment acquired solely by the PRR using its own funds.
    In the early 1960s, the city of Philadelphia financed the acquisition of a new set of EMUs of a derivative design for both the PRR and the Reading (as well as the last-ever order of RDCs for the Reading's remaining unelectrified services). These were initially referred to simply as "Silverliners". However, the original six EMUs were subsequently retroactively dubbed "Silverliner I" with the newer cars classified as "Silverliner II". The two classes can be relatively easily distinguished by looking at the side doors. Silverliner II doors do not extend into the roof at all.
    These two types of cars were not compatible-the Pioneer III/Silverliner I used conventional knuckle couplers and MU hoses while the publicly financed "Silverliner II" featured new automatic couplers that integrated air brakes and MU connections into the coupling mechanism. The older cars also had smaller motors, which meant that they accelerated slower, creating further complications in a possible mixed consist. This status as a small batch of inferior, incompatible, oddballs lead to their (comparatively) early retirement in the early 1990s.
    Philadelphia subsequently helped finance a THIRD batch of EMU, appropriately dubbed the Silverliner III. However, bidding led to this batch being contracted out to Saint Louis Car Co. instead of Budd. SLCC ran massively behind schedule, leading to this batch being referred to as "Lateliners". In order to avoid patent infringement, SLCC did not use a tubular body structure like the earlier batches. This can be seen in the photograph at 8:00-the second car back in the train has a more angular, boxier, appearance, with a distinctive seam between the car side and the roof. As the photograph demonstrates, the Silverliner III was compatible with the Silverliner II.
    Finally, in the mid 1970s, a fourth, significantly larger, batch of EMUs arrived to replace the bulk of the older PRR and Reading EMUs. The Silverliner IV was immediately distinguishable through the massive hump/"blister" on its roof for its dynamic braking system, as well as an obvious plug in the middle of the car intended for future replacement with central doors to speed up high-level boarding (but never used). It, too, was compatible with the prior two classes of Silverliner (but not the Pioneer III/Silverliner I).
    The three classes continued to operate together in service until the end of the 2000s, when the now-elderly Silverliner II and Silverliner III were finally retired. The Silverliner IV, however, continues in service (now approaching its 50th birthday!) at the time of writing, with no immediate, definite, plans for replacements in existence as of July 2024 ("wish-list" line-items in the long-term budget being the only evidence of said replacements existence).

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for providing the history of the silverliner classes.

  • @JessicaKasumi1990
    @JessicaKasumi1990 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Imagine if it had taken off, it might have saved passenger service on the PRR.

  • @streamlinede6
    @streamlinede6 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great documentary covering these interesting cars!

  • @rrotwang
    @rrotwang 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent program
    Nicely done
    Adam
    Brooklyn ny

  • @genesisrailfan1507
    @genesisrailfan1507 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I knew these cars existence before because of Northeast Corridor Train Simulator (Roblox) which they have a gamepass set featuring a GG1 with its rake of Keystone coaches

  • @rlbijster
    @rlbijster 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another interesting, comprehensive and informative video. Nice work.

  • @BNSFrailfan01
    @BNSFrailfan01 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Those are some tubular cars, dude.

  • @drdewott9154
    @drdewott9154 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Actually pretty interesting stuff to see. Especially as most modern trains in Europe now deploy the same overall design with a low floor center of the carriage. The main difference here though is that the doors are in the lower part of the carriage to enable level boarding with the lower platforms across Europe. The newest examples being the Railjet 2 sets by the Austrian state railways ÖBB.

  • @exerosis5758
    @exerosis5758 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Maybe weird thing to say, but they kind of remind me of Shikishima's dining and lounge cars. With stairs down and high ceilings, not very common :O

  • @sotomanuel3
    @sotomanuel3 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I only knew about those cars thanks to the Northeast Corridor Simulator game by Roblox.

  • @josephpadula2283
    @josephpadula2283 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The pioneer III trucks were modified and used on the SPV-2000 self propelled replacement for the RDC.
    The Detroit Diesel Engines under the car drive the trucks .

  • @JuiceJackNut
    @JuiceJackNut 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Just one thing. The GG1s weren't HEP compatible. They only had steam boilers. Amtrak had to create HEP cars when they accepted the Amfleets in the 70s.

    • @sadams12345678
      @sadams12345678 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Keystone trainset had its own HEP (two diesel generators in the first car), so the fact that the GG1s weren't HEP compatible is irrelevant.

    • @00Zy99
      @00Zy99 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@sadams12345678 But the video implies that they were, rendering the HEP car redundant: "as even though it wasn't needed due to the excessive power"
      Therefore, this is a valid correction to make.

  • @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
    @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    the pennsylvania worked with their good *bud*
    the *budd* company

  • @theyeeter95
    @theyeeter95 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    0:15 dollar store emd

  • @Brianrockrailfan
    @Brianrockrailfan 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    tried to watch this video on my tv on TH-cam but get black screen :( desktop video worked i restarted my tv TH-cam on tv works now

  • @zavencornelius7022
    @zavencornelius7022 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Here me out😈

  • @Touchybanana
    @Touchybanana 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This guy completely ignores the fact that Pennsylvania is called the Keystone state which is why the Amtrak Keystones are named like that.

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The narrator (myself) is completely aware of the fact, as the Pennsy's logo is also a Keystone for this very reason. It's just a fact that was implied since the Keystone has a very strong presence in the Pennsylvania Railroad.

  • @elliotwelz9793
    @elliotwelz9793 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice video but could hardly understand you cause you talked so fast .

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Closed captions are available to understand each word, and the video speed can also be adjusted to be played back slower or faster.