I put a giant battery in our e-NV200 and it's glorious

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  • @matthewaride2234
    @matthewaride2234 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing how you grew from trying to upgrade your nissan leaf in a small garage into a viable battery upgrading company, one of the best in the EU. You motivated others and cap off to you guys. Determined and focused.

  • @nickschultz1244
    @nickschultz1244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That battery pack is glorious! Glad to hear everyone is healthy in your shop and congratulations on the ever increasing number of conversions. Always look forward to your updates!

  • @clairebinder166
    @clairebinder166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow, convert a Sprinter or Crater to electric with this and I may finally have compelling Camper Van basis. Keep up the great work

    • @erwinvandoeselaar7352
      @erwinvandoeselaar7352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hi Claire, if you would like to have a campervan electrically powered, please let me know. Together with Muxsan Kazoo Campers intends to convert a couple of those e-NV200's into camper vans. Right after that the e-Sprinter might become an option. Hope to hear from you, best regards, Erwin

    • @herreuittenhout3455
      @herreuittenhout3455 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erwinvandoeselaar7352 Interrested!

  • @mauriceschoenen
    @mauriceschoenen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow. You’re literally one of the coolest companies on the planet.

  • @MetalMike50
    @MetalMike50 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Opel Vivaro-e announced a few days ago has a 75 kWh battery. So finally a decent range in a van
    Pluspunten voor de Alleweder!

  • @countteddy
    @countteddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    my 2014 ENV is only 24kw , but I regularly use her to do 400 miles in one trip.....a bit of charger planning , some patience and plenty of coffee , no worries at all ...love it....

  • @RickRick552
    @RickRick552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Put in an extra layer of batteries, we want 1000KM range :)

  • @douglasalanthompson
    @douglasalanthompson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We are waiting for Muxsan US branch

  • @nickbull6603
    @nickbull6603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    175kW CCS??...I'll be remortgaging my house by the time I see you guys in July 😂

  • @FirstDan2000
    @FirstDan2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you have any cooling problems with the added batteries?

  • @dr.projectx5142
    @dr.projectx5142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is nice to have a 175kw charger to that Nissan. That is cool.

  • @Patchworkdaddy007
    @Patchworkdaddy007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Nissan Leave 1 is a nice car with a battery problem. If you can replace the battery by yourself it's perfect. But if you will let replace from Nissan you have lost!

  • @jesuskingofkings
    @jesuskingofkings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Do you have that NV-200 for sale? I’m interested in buying 5 of them from you.

    • @williamerazo3921
      @williamerazo3921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here in the US

    • @williamerazo3921
      @williamerazo3921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I need 2 of them passenger version used and imported here in the states

  • @stevencorrea6946
    @stevencorrea6946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to have that Nissan Leaf. I hope you guys continue to continue to do good. I love the corona the Sun.

  • @loz11968
    @loz11968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is the weight of the battery pack you added? As they have a load capacity of 658kg and that’s including the driver / passenger

  • @johnmclaughlin2845
    @johnmclaughlin2845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That van is going to go through tyres like crazy

    • @georgestewart1983
      @georgestewart1983 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I upgraded the tyres on my heavy campervan (3500kg) and they will do over 30,000 miles !

  • @fusion8484
    @fusion8484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome man 👍

  • @matroosoft4589
    @matroosoft4589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Regarding your upgraded Leaf being okay-ish, how about the infotainment unit (center console unit). If I recall correctly, you once talked about planning to replace it. Is that still the plan?

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but it's a lower priority project now - mainly because I ran into issues changing CAD programs. It's a lot of very finicky modeling to get a nicely fitting center console cover that also mounts correctly. Also after the mechanical bits, I still need to figure out cabling and some interface stuff for the A/C and rear view camera.

    • @matroosoft4589
      @matroosoft4589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PowerElectronicsBlog Oké cool to see that it's at least still in the works. For work I do CAD design on a daily basis (work with Autodesk Inventor), I can probably help if you want. Also I designed a 3D printed phone holder bracket which I mounted to the center console by removing the airbag warning light in the center console. I can share it if you're interested, some viewers might like it. Don't want to push anything. :) Keep up the good work

  • @MrMarty77
    @MrMarty77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It'd be cool to replace that wooden cover/floor with a thick transparent Plexiglass panel.

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We would too! But that's not allowed, plexiglass is mighty flammable and reacts with battery solvents. We're going to put a sticker on or something like that.

    • @MrMarty77
      @MrMarty77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PowerElectronicsBlog Ahh that's a shame. Sticker it is I suppose :p

  • @CosgroveNotts
    @CosgroveNotts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great payload

  • @Top12Boardsport
    @Top12Boardsport 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work.

  • @gorazdnovsak3705
    @gorazdnovsak3705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How much is that CCS controler?

    • @pashko90
      @pashko90 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And what is controller part number?

    • @Sjalabais
      @Sjalabais 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      EXACTLY. So many words on it, but the informational content got lost. Great can though.

  • @Arjanvde
    @Arjanvde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m still interested in upgrading our C-Zero batteries -> will result in swapping the battery pack with a larger battery capacity due to the lack of trunk space.

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably something we'll be trying out this year still. The Outlander, Partner, i-Miev, C-Zero, iOn, e-Berlingo, they all share a bunch of drivetrain components. I don't think we will have an actual product to sell, but definitely one or two prototypes driving around

    • @Arjanvde
      @Arjanvde 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PowerElectronicsBlog Would be interested to see if you can offer an alternative for the LEV50's which are currently installed in the i-Miev. If you need the car for a day research please let me know.

    • @samusaran7317
      @samusaran7317 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Arjanvde I can relate to your struggle. Poor little mitsu

    • @richij
      @richij 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PowerElectronicsBlog some Australians are hypothesising that the Samsung 94 Ah cells will fit

  • @AWildBard
    @AWildBard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea!

  • @antoinem01
    @antoinem01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ughly cough there at the beginning Emile!
    Please take care.
    Very interested in getting my LifeSpyPro to show the correct kWh number too!

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Subscribe to Leaf Spy Pro beta play.google.com/apps/testing/com.Turbo3.Leaf_Spy_Pro
      you need version 0.45.131

  • @cupidupi9282
    @cupidupi9282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing job, boys. Finally it has a CCS charging and probably better handling in corners.
    However, this weighs a lot and consumption goes a bit higher.
    I can't still believe the 500 km range. Maybe in 50 km/h.

    • @EngineeringNibbles
      @EngineeringNibbles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      75kwh won't bring more than 300km highway, but that's already quite excellent

    • @vladzis
      @vladzis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check his previous videos, he did a test at motorway speeds with this battery.
      Not sure that do you mean better handling in corners? It's a van, not a car. I have 3rd party alloys on mine and it's like sticked to tarmac.
      Consumption isn't much changed at cruise speeds on motorways.
      133k mile, from new, e-NV200 owner here.
      Just to add, mine has SoH of 77%, and at 50km/h I still can get 120-130km of range, so do you maths over your negativity please, before commenting nonsense

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We've now tried out the range on 2 weekend drives. First weekend we drove it 330km and had about 100 left. Second we started at ~80%, drove almost 300km, charged 6kWh and arrived with 25%.
      I'd say a realistic mixed-use range is 450km now. Just highways or high speed, it can get as low as 300km.

    • @EngineeringNibbles
      @EngineeringNibbles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vladzis The Zoe I use with a 41kwh battery does about 22kwh/100km on the highway, I don't think it's overly negative to extrapolate that the overall consumption for the env would be a little higher. Small edit: a Peugeot partner electric I tried was higher, around 24kwh/100km on highway
      I guess flatter ground in the Netherlands with better weather and lower speed limits help compared to here, I'm glad to see that Powerelecyronics gets decent range and with ccs it'll be a crazy van.

  • @buckegit
    @buckegit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you consider the 35kwh e-golf as an extender project?
    And amazing car only let down by us average miles

  • @mavenhelm
    @mavenhelm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where did you get the 40KWh battery and what year is it? I’m thinking about buying a 2011 for $3000 add new battery and DC quick charger

    • @pashko90
      @pashko90 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charlie, 40KWh will cost you around 5-7k$

    • @theairstig9164
      @theairstig9164 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ... except in Australia where it will be 80% of whatever a new Leaf sells for. I'm not being sarcastic, its actually what happened

  • @smeghead6123
    @smeghead6123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Illegal tow bar? Why what's the law in the Netherlands for tow bars. Absolutely brilliant van.

  • @davidbradley3982
    @davidbradley3982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job on the van ,... i really like it.

  • @corresandberg
    @corresandberg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome stuff!!! I am thinking about building an electric MC. So I'm guessing I can fit around 10kWh or some more before it gets to heavy. What sized CCS onboard charger is there to buy with small form factor? And what rate of charge could it be (how long is the rope, I know). Keep at it!!

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're not talking about CCS I think, I think you mean an AC (type 2) charger. Take a look at TC charger, we use them for three phase charging. With a small battery like that, you shouldn't charge at a fast charger, you're limited to approx. 15-20kW

  • @Nismo3
    @Nismo3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muxsan should bring some cooling-parts for the Leaf 2. I think there is a huge market for it.

  • @CrAzYDr1veR
    @CrAzYDr1veR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    dream van!

  • @dr.projectx5142
    @dr.projectx5142 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I wish I could get one of these vans. With a large usable battery pack. And add a CC's charger for fast charging. And for long trips and the extra room for 8 passengers.

    • @Wookey.
      @Wookey. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a big queue of us waiting. For me the env200 is a little bit too small. The e-VITO size is about right, or a master, but then you need a lot of battery and a fuck-off charger to fill it up in s sensible period of time, which all costs money. And SFAIK no-one is doing the reverse-enginering for those platforms that Muxsan has done for the Nissan stuff. I could, given enough time, and it might come to that one day, but I have a house to fix first so I'm waiting to see if anyone actually makes something commercial. Rivian platform, buzz, transporter/vito battery upgrades.

  • @laszloperesztegi
    @laszloperesztegi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not put the battery pack to the driver divider wall and build a wall-like brick model on top and sides of each other? That would sound more like space saving for me and might not cause too much weight imbalance.

  • @FM-ll3vo
    @FM-ll3vo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. I would like to know if possible where do you get that baterie modules and what the specs from one module. Thanks. I have been seen your videos and progress, i must say you doing well. Very good work.

  • @thymecapsule619
    @thymecapsule619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey just wondering if you could install and connect custom solar roof panels to further extend the range?would that make sense for a big car like env200 instead of expensive batteries like an alternative option.

    • @thymecapsule619
      @thymecapsule619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      for example when parked in a sunny spot during camping you would charge a good bit off grid.

  • @04dram04
    @04dram04 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    But how much cargo weight can you have now? Seems like the batteries would eat it all up

  • @gunleifjoensen3815
    @gunleifjoensen3815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool velomobiel, an Alleweder?

  • @xchopp
    @xchopp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adding my 2c to the 2016 e-Golf upgrade requests!

  • @RamonInOrlando
    @RamonInOrlando 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy to hear you Guys are doing good in this Coronavirus time!!!
    For what we know you are the best in Nissan Extended Range Worldwide.
    Please let us know when you are opening an office or some kind of partnership in the United States, Central Florida.
    There's a group of us looking for a solution.
    Best regards

    • @vladzis
      @vladzis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought e-NV200 is not being sold in USA?

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vladzis it's available in/from canada (bit rare though)

  • @TestTest-eb8jr
    @TestTest-eb8jr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You didn't mention the price of the CCS controller...🤔

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This controller... it's more than a large extender battery. We'll be developing our own sub-€1000 solution.

    • @TestTest-eb8jr
      @TestTest-eb8jr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PowerElectronicsBlog That is a rediculous price as you menioned in the video.
      I'll be looking forward to your solution. 🖒🖒🖒

    • @moestrei
      @moestrei 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did you integrate the bigger battery capacity into the factory display for range? Did you hack the Mitsubishi??

    • @fabianfeilcke7220
      @fabianfeilcke7220 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TestTest-eb8jr Developing and testing a reliable CCS Controler is quite an undertaking. There is a reason the Vector one is so pricy

  • @HandyKindaGuyUK
    @HandyKindaGuyUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been meaning to ask this last night.. I've been offered a full 80kw battery pack from a tesla. How compatible are the battery packs with the Nissan env?

  • @svenwesterlund3405
    @svenwesterlund3405 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about some aero modding to extend the range?
    Full moon rims, smallar rear view mirrors, slightly lower car, flat under belly etc

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, working on that very soon (tm), the only reason they don't exist yet is because of our big milling machine being busy and currently broken down. I have models for rear skirts already.

  • @sharptoothtrex4486
    @sharptoothtrex4486 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you do this for Toyota Priuses and Chevy Volts as if you did with Nissan Leafs, I am sure Toyota, Nissan and GM love to have them for their future electric cars.

  • @muse0ver
    @muse0ver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    could you tell me where you bought the side bars on the nv200 and how much they cost please?

  • @jazdan223
    @jazdan223 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll take 7! Shit, im in the us.. .Why cant I get a damn electric van. That thing with a back row would be perfect for road trips

  • @cdwwillow9671
    @cdwwillow9671 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Often wonder about house battery’s or two in a van ?? Stand then up ??

  • @bnrynlds
    @bnrynlds 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that an Alleweder on the workbench?

  • @GoingOffGrid101
    @GoingOffGrid101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    beastly van! I kinda want one :D

  • @oplkfdhgk
    @oplkfdhgk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    does the chademo charging still work? and does it charge at the same power? or can you make it charge more range per hour because of the upgraded battery?

    • @oplkfdhgk
      @oplkfdhgk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh okay you talked about it on the video :)

  • @mikaelp9826
    @mikaelp9826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anyone do this in europe, preferably scandinavia? It is my dream

  • @meesterJos
    @meesterJos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wat kost dat beetje extra voor de e-NV200?

  • @skepticfucker280
    @skepticfucker280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cover it in solar panels!

  • @Coasterfreak
    @Coasterfreak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3 phase charging video when

  • @TEACHER0786
    @TEACHER0786 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @chucknutbraker
    @chucknutbraker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    where do you get your batteries from, and how much do they cost?

  • @MiKe_eKiM
    @MiKe_eKiM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bruh I need a a new battery upgrade for my 2016 Volkswagen egolf

  • @ricardoscotti2086
    @ricardoscotti2086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the a Alleweder-Velomobile?

  • @JorgeFlores-ck8bp
    @JorgeFlores-ck8bp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey I am on AMERICA and I want to do something like that to a LEAF is there a way to do it ??

  • @Patchworkdaddy007
    @Patchworkdaddy007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you ever thought about equipping a Nissan Leaf with Tesla batteries?

    • @Damicske
      @Damicske 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you need to water cool that, Nissan battery's are air cooled

    • @ThanosSustainable
      @ThanosSustainable 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt a Tesla battery would need ANY kind of cooling in a Leaf.

    • @vladzis
      @vladzis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Damicske Tesla batteries aren't water cooled

    • @pashko90
      @pashko90 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vladzis they do.

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Water cooling isn't the problem, it's the physical size of Tesla batteries. Also... Tesla batteries aren't actually that good.... (I'm sure I'll get into the technicals of that someday)

  • @willyd-adv
    @willyd-adv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would a JDM Env200 not be better for you as it already has fast charging?
    Also why aren't van manufacturers coming out with bigger battery pack? I mean 80km on a brand new E-veto..... please

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's got fast charging, it's just that it's 50kW chademo (so in practice: 38-44kW). That's very slow if your battery is around 80kWh, so it needs faster charging. Chademo isn't getting upgraded much in the near future, so we're adding 175kW CCS.

  • @Simon-dm8zv
    @Simon-dm8zv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the RDW care about adding aftermarket batteries in the cargo space or even underneath the vehicle? I wonder what they say at the annual APK.

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, as far as they're concerned it's just cargo. We've had confirmation from two dozen customers so far that nobody even saw the modifications on the APK.

    • @Simon-dm8zv
      @Simon-dm8zv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      PowerElectronicsBlog Thanks for your reply. That’s great news. Do you think adding additional batteries underneath a vehicle would be allowed as well?

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Simon-dm8zv First off, I should note that there ARE rules to be followed (quite stringent ones as well, e.g. UN/ECE 100 and IEC 6469-1), which all our products are designed for. And yes, we're going to install our first under-vehicle battery (on an e-NV200 EVALIA) on July 9th, so around then we'll be evaluating whether we're going to make that a standard product and of course making a video about it.

    • @Simon-dm8zv
      @Simon-dm8zv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      PowerElectronicsBlog An under-vehicle extension battery for the e-NV200 sounds like a perfect product. Looking forward to your progress on this. Great work 👍🏻

    • @Nieminenracing
      @Nieminenracing 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PowerElectronicsBlog Want to see this! what size extension you are planning under-vehicle? i have 40kw evalia and something about 20-24kw extra would make this car almost perfect!

  • @kararmahdi4561
    @kararmahdi4561 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, is it possible to extend the range for Toyota Prius?

  • @dmitriyl4177
    @dmitriyl4177 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the weight of that monster battery?

  • @londonflowermarket7394
    @londonflowermarket7394 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this safe? How much is to convert?

  • @adrianthorpe8005
    @adrianthorpe8005 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does is 40 kw direct swap on 24 kw ? Env200

  • @mondotv4216
    @mondotv4216 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you do with the Outlanders?

  • @shiningirisheyes
    @shiningirisheyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks small one subject matter youtube is more easy to digest

  • @oplkfdhgk
    @oplkfdhgk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:26 what you have one of those :O where can you buy those :O ???

    • @oplkfdhgk
      @oplkfdhgk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      now i just need to learn how to install those :D

  • @frankbonheure7064
    @frankbonheure7064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    just a question, is it possible to use leaf spy on other electric cars ? Lets say a twizzy

    • @mjk8019
      @mjk8019 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frank Bonheure no, but you can use OVMS for that.

  • @matthewfensterwald1853
    @matthewfensterwald1853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys should build a camper!!!

  • @eddieyutub
    @eddieyutub 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need bigger tires, reduce rolling resistance

  • @ivancajka732
    @ivancajka732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine a triple stacked baterry at 200 kwh

  • @F20A2T
    @F20A2T 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vector VCCU ftw. We're using them as well at work, only our batteries are slightly bigger (+350kWh :) ). Still sad we sold our leaf just before the conversion became available :(

  • @markplain2555
    @markplain2555 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh? How come is the tow bar illegal?

    • @PowerElectronicsBlog
      @PowerElectronicsBlog  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The tow bar itself isn't, but the Leaf isn't allowed to tow a load (it's just for bike racks).

  • @trentbrown2432
    @trentbrown2432 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you be positive about the great work you are doing, not sound negative

  • @linmal2242
    @linmal2242 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This might interest you! Tesla Hacker Highlights Major Issue (This guy is modding a large van with an entire Tesla Model 3 Guts!) th-cam.com/video/o-7b1waoj9Q/w-d-xo.html Also Norway might have some cheap salvage Tesla parts maybe?

  • @williamerazo3921
    @williamerazo3921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Change the software.

  • @marsrover001
    @marsrover001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The worst part of the e-nv200. You can't get it in the states.

  • @raychambers3646
    @raychambers3646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two hours to charge ,that's if the charging station is free,5 mins to fill my car ,to allow for some of my journeys add at least 2 hours to my journey time.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ray Chambers it’s not for everyone. But if you charge at home or work, for commutes there is no “fill up” time so those more frequent fuel stops at 5 minutes a piece start to add up.

    • @TsLeng
      @TsLeng 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ALMX5DP you are right it's not for everyone but filling up petrol or diesel really doesn't take that much time in total. Once a week at 5mins a pop is still only 4.3hours in a year. A 30mins fast charge once a month is already 6 hours...

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TsLeng absolutely, but just shows that as a commuter vehicle with occasional fast charging trips, it can still be somewhat competitive in terms of total time spent per year in "filling up."