@Oriental Studios the only fact checker you should ever trust is yourself. Fact checking sites may help but if you lean on one you're just using one media source to confirm another that most likely have the exact same views. The people that are typically the most political and unobjective are the ones that claim they aren't. Simply put, who fact checks the fact checker?
In the study, we went to a Walmart and grabbed random people by the arm and started shouting at them: "HEY, DO YOU THINK SNOPES IS REAL!?" The ones who didn't run away screaming or call for security responded, and of those few dozen people, we got our results. Most said, "Sure, yeah, whatever, please just leave me alone and don't hurt me!" while others said they thought it was satire site. A few people said, "Snopes Dogg? I loved his album, Straight Outta Compton."
If you are expecting critical thinking from a Christian satirical news site you should be prepared for disappointment. People who form their worldview around principles of FAITH are intentionally choosing to avoid thinking critically.
Satire is not tolerated in totalitarian states. Satire is like the canary in the coal mine. When an organization has a problem with satire, it should not be take lightly, it should be taken as a warning sign.
@@QuadCloudNine Are you serious? You'd better be seated at a serious enough table to be having this conversation. I'm not certain you're serious about this.
There's humor in the truth and truth in the humor. That is why satire is so popular. It's why the Chappelle Show was gold and how South Park still ekes along.
wolfpack4128 South Park and the Simpsons alike have really shown their colors since the 2016 election, I didn’t even vote for Trump and always viewed myself as a centrist when it came to politics. I just don’t understand how the MSM pushes shit with ill regard to factually backing up their claims. Over the past 3 years, I’ve felt my beliefs constantly tick over to the right like a damn clock.
@@SpudEater I am curious to learn how the last 3 years of SouthPark episodes have pushed your views towards the Right? Are their any noteworthy examples of SouthPark scenes that demonstrate what you mean by "revealed their True colors?" I'm very curious specifically about SouthPark because I have followed it for 21 seasons now, and the creators have remained very consistent in their Philosophy in my view, despite having made a dreadful miscalculation in Season 19 by assuming that the Mr Garrison running for president plot would be over at the end of the season, which they explained and apologize for in their audio commentary for "The end of serialization as we know it!" I'm a huge fan of the Simpsons Seasons 1-10, but after season 10, the original writers quit after the corporate owners of the brand of the show gave creative control to a new executive producer, David X Cohen who had never seen the show before. The Simpsons has become a strange pro Liberalism piece in recent seasons, so I no longer watch. Also, to be clear, I am reading your statement "pushed me to the right" as meaning that your core political values have grown more conservative & less egalitarian, rather than meaning "my antagonism towards the Democratic party has increased" (which is perfectly understandable as I would detest any external influences that are messing with my shows)
@@jcmick8430 Anyone that doesn't stay extreme left is right leaning... that is meaningless these days considering how many leftists have said they've been left behind by their party.
@@sonza68 To be fair, only stupid people steeped in a sinful lifestyle of disobedience to God, will believe satire is real. It is said that sin and hatred of others make one stupid (or lose touch with common sense) and make them do stupid (blunderous) things. I'm not being judgemental nor preachy here, I'm just saying what the scriptures are saying. Besides, I also learned this painfully from personal experiences, many times. That is why I try my best to stay away from hatred and other people's hating business, otherwise I drag myself into the same dark hole as them.
@@ramiere1412 Then all Snopes has to say is that this is a site dedicated to satire. It's supposed to be comedic. It's how humour has worked forever. If I say that "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse", that shouldn't be up for a fact check. It's a simple joke but one doesn't infer dishonesty when the joke becomes a little more sophisticated. If people start using it as a reference to facts, all one has to do is to point out that this is comedic. I'm going to say that these fact checks are put in place to prevent people from accessing satire sites because they don't like the implication of the humour being used. "Don't make fun of my beliefs". They do the same to people who call themselves comedians. Comedians don't like doing universities anymore because those, who become offended at jokes, have become violent at times. "Speech is violence" is the mantra. They're attacking humour because humour and satire has always been a way to pick away at sacred beliefs. The religious call it blasphemy. The political left calls it "misinformation", their word for blasphemy.
@@JackHaveman52 no they are not “attacking satire” did you watch the video? Actual voters are actually gullible enough to believe this shit people actually use shit like this in political arguments
I fully agree that satire fully intends to reveal truth! A clever satire introduces novel juxtapositions of ideas to inspire insights on the veracity of the implicit claims, with the humor resulting from the new insights. These "jokes" published by Babylon Bee are not so much telling a satirical narrative, as they are memes pandering to the pre-existing beliefs of its audience. These are not serving to reveal anything that the reader doesn't already take for granted. If satire is defined by revealing truth, some of the contents produced by the Babylon Bee are not satire.
To provide an explicit example "CNN Purchases Industrial Sized Washing Machine to Spin News" is only meaningful to someone already aware of CNN's spin.
Kyle said it well, that satire is not truth, but truth-adjacent. It adds an element of absurdity to what's true, related to something else that the creator(s) think we should care about, to make a point.
@@MrCmon113 True, but the converse is not true. The fact that deeper analysis and exposition is necessary to support the underlying ideas doesn't mean that the superficial, attention grabbing presentation is worthless, and the presence of the shallow doesn't imply the absence of the deep.
Admittedly, Babylon Bee has sometimes tricked me into thinking their stories are real. But that’s not really their fault. It’s sad that reality can be so outrageous that it’s confused with satire and vice versa.
The surest sign of a healthy culture and society is one that can laugh at itself. Conclusion: Our society is extremely ill and should see a doctor. Which doctor? No. A regular one.
It really should be another category; "false" should mean the source intends it to believed to be true. When it's satire, especially when it's very obvious satire, it should be labeled as such instead of pretending the satirist was trying to fool anyone.
They do. At least, they've changed it so that they do now. Prior they were trying to keep it simple with "True, False, Mostly True, Mostly False, and unconfirmed"
@@raineman1118 You ever wonder what would be written if North Korea had its own satirical sites like the Bee, Onion, Frank, Lampoon, Private Eye, etc.(the Yongbyon Yawn, the Pyongyang Ricochet)? - "Forced Patriotic Elderly Suffer Through Luncheon Repast of Soil, Grass, & Leaf Pies For Dear Leader, Just Because It's Wednesday" - "'We're Dying Here,' Says 86 Lbs. Mom Warming Herself At Burning Barrel - 'Dying To Visit The New Eternal Funshine Kimboree Theme Park, Of Course' As Handguns of Dutiful Not-Secret Police Clack and Rack In Approval" - "40-Year Painter Of NK Propaganda Posters 'Grateful' For State-Made Super-Toxic Paste And Paint Provided - 'The Poisons In Them Keep CV-19 Virus Away' While He Fights Stage 4 Cancer From Asbestos Canvases"
20 years ago I trusted Snopes for those Urban Legends, they actually were correct the majority of the time. Once they got involved with politics... Who knows...
I stopped reading Snopes when they explained a slam on H. Clinton and through their description concluded that it was mostly true but then labeled it mostly false, and then when someone said "hate speech already isn't protected according to the supreme court" they labeled it mostly false but then went on to explain why according to SC opinions it is mostly true.
@3:08 Is the fact that a significant amount of people believe satirical articles are authentic an indication of being plagued by "fake news" or an implication of just how absurd the reality of our political and sociological zeitgeist have become?
The study is flawed and misleading. A majority of people don't believe satirical articles are authentic, a majority of people think that the synopses of satirical articles are real.
"A lot of times they missed the joke entirely." Odds are that the people who "miss the joke" are wound too tight, and are emotionally attached to whatever is being made fun of. In the words of the immortal Sgt. Hulka: "Lighten up, Francis."
Not necessarily. Despite the fact that gun control or abortion arguments for example have been THOROUGHLY DEBUNKED, the die hard gun grabbers and my body my choicers still press on. Is there any point in debating those types? Snopes KNOWS that they are habitual liers but do you honestly believe that they care? The only thing that matters to them is the leftist egalitarianism agenda and if lies will get them there so be it...
@@traykunable The only reason anyone ever refuses to answer a question is because they don't like the answer. There is always a point in debating any position worth having.
@@troodon1096 not when it's a 'set up' interview where all your words get twisted later on. Case in point are the 60 Minutes separate interviews of both Trump and De Santis. There's also Robert Downey's interview by a hack BBC reporter. This proves that you can NEVER do an honest debate or interview with hacks posing as Truth seekers. Not all debates/interviews are real debates/interviews. Many of them are hacks to get you canceled and scorned on.
@@tuberobotto I believe you're absolutely correct what you should do when asked to do those is recorded the entire thing yourself and play that hopefully showing up the interviewer as biased as can be
Illustrating absurdity by being absurd is the most brilliant sort of humor there is. When leftists who take themselves too seriously can't see the humor in satire makes it that much funnier. :D
2021 and it is DIFFICULT to know if the BB is STILL satire, as reality has become so crazy...sad, strange times, so we need y'all, even more, to keep up your crazy-creative work at the BB!
Did Snopes ever 'fact-check' the Daily Show, esp. when it was hosted by Jon Stewart and Craig Kilborn? ...didn't think so. So why is the Babylon Bee "so special" in this regard, Mikkelsons? lol
Bill Maher got fact checked to his face in a livestream "show" I think last year, when he did a one-on-one with Dan Crenshaw with the intent to shame conservatives like Crenshaw. It was a huge pushback to Maher's face as he failed in every turn to dominate the interview due to Crenshaw being well-prepared with facts, and of course there was missing Maher's canned audience jeers and applauses to support him in the usual routine of bullying his guests into submission. Without those, Maher looked like the total jerk loser pundit that he's always been with his fake intelligence and false knowledge he displays on his TV show.
Wikipedia is fine too it's a starting point and you look at what their sources are and you read their sources. There's never been such a thing as an infallible text book, because human error and bias are universal. what Wikipedia and similar do is give you a connection to at least one of the arguments about the topic and some initial source is to start from. Frankly that's quite a bit better than the standard peer-review process. I know this having a doctorate and quite a few friends in academia and when you see how many peer-reviewed journals are basically people who think alike agreeing with each other, you realize that is just one group of people with a credential feeling Superior to all. checking their sources is just more time-consuming in a peer-reviewed journal than in online peer review.
@@moreawakenow6940 and for what it is worth, Wikipedia was a lot better prior to their "notability" policy. the main lesson is not the Wikipedia is bad or that academia is bad, but the any group of people or any source is only as good as its bias allows it to be, and bias is always present.
The sad truth is that a great many people especially those that are left-leaning can not recognize satire at all. I sometimes post the Bee's articles on my Facebook timeline but I remove all references to the Bee and people get incensed at me often getting into violent arguments with me about a particular article especially it concerns a current piece of political news. The same holds true when I post a Borowitz report though many will recognize his work. I truly enjoy triggering these fanatical left-wing fools who can never recognize humor. They deserve to be fooled and the Bee does a great job of taking the piss out of the left. Conservatives will usually just laugh if an article is aimed at them.
In this absurd world, it is no wonder that satire can be misconstrued as real. Who would have thought that men could use women's restrooms, that men could compete in women's sports. Those would have been satire 10 years ago.
Babylon Bee is one of the only reasons I go to Facebook anymore. That and to see pictures of my friends’ babies. Facebook should know better than to go after the Bee.
I did once have to gently inform a friend that an Onion story about real zombies wasn’t really real. He was so embarrassed that he just stopped talking to me.
You know what the difference is between Penn and Teller and The Long Island Medium? One is lying to you for your entertainment and telling you they are fooling you. The other is lying to you for your money and not telling you they are fooling you. One sucks and the other doesn't. Snopes and the Babylon Bee are a similar comparison.
This is the result of equality in classrooms that cant leave any child behind as well as media and flouride. The dumbing down of our people is going to become more apparent despite only now that its obvious, this has been a long term investment and generations and possibly even genetics have been comprised.
I wonder whether Snopes has fact-checked the number of people who no longer go to them for fact-checking has grown considerably? (I wonder if they'll fact-check that?)
Try the fact that "news" from the Babylon Bee is often shared as REAL news by mouth breathing trumpets, and HAVE to be fact checked to get it right, yet STILL get shared by the mouth breathers as FACT, and you have ample reason for fact checking satire.
Unlike Joe Biden, the Babylon Bee actually delivers on the tag line “We choose truth, not facts!” Unlike Joe Biden, the Babylon Bee is intentionally funny.
"Snopes... just trying to strengthen their media literacy skills" -- 1:07. Yes, without services such as Snopes to spoon-feed us the true narrative, we would be helpless!
Reason - good on you for this profile ! I've been a fan of the Babylon Bee since its inception. Christian satire is not new. These guys remind me of the old 'Witenburg Door' cult classic Christian humor magazine from the 80's. And of course that name alone evokes the memory of the first high profile Christian satirist in history, Martin Luther who beginning in 1517, nailed his 95 points of debate on the church door @ Witenburg Germany. Luther then began to write lengthy Pamphlets & tracts mixing news, humor, theology & criticism of the Status quo - aimed squarely at the out of control Clergy & their unwarranted dominance of the culture & individual Christians. If the Babylon Bee wrote of this: 'POPE PRESENTS TARGET SO LARGE EVEN A NEAR SIGHTED MONK CAN'T MISS'
The answer to the problem is real simple: sue. Each and every time they mischaracterize. Use the courts and the weight of the law as a bludgeon against the enemies of free speech and against those who seek deplatforming as a substitute for actual debate. Ruin enough of them, smash their businesses and their futures, and then it will stop
The is a style of mathematical proof called reductio ad absurdum, in which you presume that a preposition is true, and then extrapolate the consequences of that proposition until it becomes clear that of the original proposition is true, then some clearly false proposition would be true (e.g. 1=0) and thus the original proposition cannot be true. The Babylon Bee satire it's like that, in that it presumes that an assertion in the culture is true, and extends it to show that the foundation of the assertion can be reduced to absurdity, and that the assertion isd therefore false. So the Babylon Bee satire it's in fact a way of expressing the truth, not fake news. QED.
I remember learning about satire in school, we read A Modest Proposal. Shocked at first, but by the time I finished reading it realized the absurdity of the claim. Makes me sad that most people have no clue about satire.
Snopes is a turgidly humorless site, and incredibly slanted. But TBH, I can't tell you how many times I've shared Babylon Bee articles, and had to deal with people screaming about them because they thought they were real. I've since marked all of them "SATIRE" (in caps), and put a link to a dictionary. Snopes may be slanted, but what is freaking scarier is how many people are too stupid to get what satire is.
I had a liberal friend try to teach me about fact checking. I humored him(30 some odd year old single pizza delivery career driver) and he brought up Snopes. I just said, OK, you got me there. 🤣😂🤣😂
The Babylon Bee: Fake News You Can Trust
-actual tagline
A brilliant tagline.
Stuart Coker That’s I’ve been sayin. Now days it’s hard to tell the difference between satire and real life “news”.
@Stuart Coker True, but its not just the left. There are several fake Trump sites that put a lot of fake news out there.
And Snopes says it's false because you can't trust them. 😂😂😂
Things like facts, and truths are confounding to snopes, who chooses facts over truths...
Do they fact check The Onion?
No because they are left leaning
Take the two "S" letters out of "Snopes" and you should have your answer.
@@Code7Unltd SS?
@Oriental Studios and you can check that through snopes and they are never wrong or uses vagueness to cover up lies. I checked by using snopes.
@Oriental Studios the only fact checker you should ever trust is yourself. Fact checking sites may help but if you lean on one you're just using one media source to confirm another that most likely have the exact same views. The people that are typically the most political and unobjective are the ones that claim they aren't. Simply put, who fact checks the fact checker?
They should do something like: "Snopes fact checked themselves and found themselves to be mostly false."
Mr MysteryCake
Everything we say is a lie
In the study, we went to a Walmart and grabbed random people by the arm and started shouting at them: "HEY, DO YOU THINK SNOPES IS REAL!?" The ones who didn't run away screaming or call for security responded, and of those few dozen people, we got our results. Most said, "Sure, yeah, whatever, please just leave me alone and don't hurt me!" while others said they thought it was satire site. A few people said, "Snopes Dogg? I loved his album, Straight Outta Compton."
@@joshuaf1126 Nice.
Is it considered satire if true?
Snopes checked themselves but still wrecked themselves
Satire promotes critical thinking,
How can that be bad?
BECAUSE IT MAKES FUN OF MY LEFTIST VIEWS BIGOT!
Liberals don’t like using their brains for thinking.
If you are expecting critical thinking from a Christian satirical news site you should be prepared for disappointment. People who form their worldview around principles of FAITH are intentionally choosing to avoid thinking critically.
@@Notintimidated2013 The same should be said of anyone making decisions influenced by religious beliefs.
...because they don't want the Gentiles to be thinking at all...
Satire is not tolerated in totalitarian states. Satire is like the canary in the coal mine. When an organization has a problem with satire, it should not be take lightly, it should be taken as a warning sign.
Well-put! And thanks for your service, Beckel
This video is labeled as "Mostly False" by Snopes.
It's suppose to be funny, lol
Have a 300th like
Mostly false is slightly true
😝😝😝
Hahhahahhhhhhhh omg I’m gonna pass out from laughing at the aoc price is right
To be clear, you are laughing at a FAKE video that is NOT to be taken seriously. This is serious, ok?
@@QuadCloudNine Seriously.
@@James_Bee That better not be a joke, or else something serious might happen.
I fack checked this and determined it was a False
@@QuadCloudNine Are you serious? You'd better be seated at a serious enough table to be having this conversation. I'm not certain you're serious about this.
There's humor in the truth and truth in the humor. That is why satire is so popular. It's why the Chappelle Show was gold and how South Park still ekes along.
wolfpack4128 South Park and the Simpsons alike have really shown their colors since the 2016 election, I didn’t even vote for Trump and always viewed myself as a centrist when it came to politics. I just don’t understand how the MSM pushes shit with ill regard to factually backing up their claims. Over the past 3 years, I’ve felt my beliefs constantly tick over to the right like a damn clock.
@@SpudEater I am curious to learn how the last 3 years of SouthPark episodes have pushed your views towards the Right?
Are their any noteworthy examples of SouthPark scenes that demonstrate what you mean by "revealed their True colors?"
I'm very curious specifically about SouthPark because I have followed it for 21 seasons now, and the creators have remained very consistent in their Philosophy in my view, despite having made a dreadful miscalculation in Season 19 by assuming that the Mr Garrison running for president plot would be over at the end of the season, which they explained and apologize for in their audio commentary for "The end of serialization as we know it!"
I'm a huge fan of the Simpsons Seasons 1-10, but after season 10, the original writers quit after the corporate owners of the brand of the show gave creative control to a new executive producer, David X Cohen who had never seen the show before.
The Simpsons has become a strange pro Liberalism piece in recent seasons, so I no longer watch.
Also, to be clear, I am reading your statement "pushed me to the right" as meaning that your core political values have grown more conservative & less egalitarian, rather than meaning "my antagonism towards the Democratic party has increased" (which is perfectly understandable as I would detest any external influences that are messing with my shows)
South Park writers are actually right leaning
@@jcmick8430 Anyone that doesn't stay extreme left is right leaning... that is meaningless these days considering how many leftists have said they've been left behind by their party.
@@James_Bee are you talking about the overton window?
The reason Snopes has to fact check is that so much of the Babylon Bee comes true.
When BLM was made time magazines person of the year, I grumbled. Then I learned the Babylon Bee made a satirical article on that months before.
fact checking satire should be recognized for what it is, classic definition of insanity.
@@sonza68
To be fair, only stupid people steeped in a sinful lifestyle of disobedience to God, will believe satire is real. It is said that sin and hatred of others make one stupid (or lose touch with common sense) and make them do stupid (blunderous) things. I'm not being judgemental nor preachy here, I'm just saying what the scriptures are saying. Besides, I also learned this painfully from personal experiences, many times. That is why I try my best to stay away from hatred and other people's hating business, otherwise I drag myself into the same dark hole as them.
You do realize people believe this right
@@ramiere1412 that cnn used a washing machine to spin news? No, no one believes that 🤣
@@ramiere1412
Then all Snopes has to say is that this is a site dedicated to satire. It's supposed to be comedic. It's how humour has worked forever. If I say that "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse", that shouldn't be up for a fact check. It's a simple joke but one doesn't infer dishonesty when the joke becomes a little more sophisticated. If people start using it as a reference to facts, all one has to do is to point out that this is comedic.
I'm going to say that these fact checks are put in place to prevent people from accessing satire sites because they don't like the implication of the humour being used. "Don't make fun of my beliefs". They do the same to people who call themselves comedians. Comedians don't like doing universities anymore because those, who become offended at jokes, have become violent at times. "Speech is violence" is the mantra.
They're attacking humour because humour and satire has always been a way to pick away at sacred beliefs. The religious call it blasphemy. The political left calls it "misinformation", their word for blasphemy.
@@JackHaveman52 no they are not “attacking satire” did you watch the video? Actual voters are actually gullible enough to believe this shit people actually use shit like this in political arguments
Satire is not factual, but it does reveal truth.
I fully agree that satire fully intends to reveal truth!
A clever satire introduces novel juxtapositions of ideas to inspire insights on the veracity of the implicit claims, with the humor resulting from the new insights.
These "jokes" published by Babylon Bee are not so much telling a satirical narrative, as they are memes pandering to the pre-existing beliefs of its audience.
These are not serving to reveal anything that the reader doesn't already take for granted. If satire is defined by revealing truth, some of the contents produced by the Babylon Bee are not satire.
To provide an explicit example "CNN Purchases Industrial Sized Washing Machine to Spin News" is only meaningful to someone already aware of CNN's spin.
Kyle said it well, that satire is not truth, but truth-adjacent. It adds an element of absurdity to what's true, related to something else that the creator(s) think we should care about, to make a point.
So say people afraid of making explicit arguments and unwilling to address the nuances of other people's positions.
@@MrCmon113 True, but the converse is not true. The fact that deeper analysis and exposition is necessary to support the underlying ideas doesn't mean that the superficial, attention grabbing presentation is worthless, and the presence of the shallow doesn't imply the absence of the deep.
me: what did the horse say to the chicken?
Snopes: nothing, animals can't talk
CNN: Horses are racist for not saying Black Lives Matter.
"Why did you cross the road?"
@@sylviaisgod6947 recently spent couple billions of taxpayers money helped scientists to discover that chickens too.
The Bee: We don't target one side over the other, we target who is being ridiculous.
Interviewer: So, you target the left.
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Admittedly, Babylon Bee has sometimes tricked me into thinking their stories are real. But that’s not really their fault. It’s sad that reality can be so outrageous that it’s confused with satire and vice versa.
The surest sign of a healthy culture and society is one that can laugh at itself. Conclusion: Our society is extremely ill and should see a doctor.
Which doctor? No. A regular one.
Funny they don't label it satire rather than false. That's the actual truth.
because satire requires a higher level of understanding. Snopes' target audience is very low IQ.
It really should be another category; "false" should mean the source intends it to believed to be true. When it's satire, especially when it's very obvious satire, it should be labeled as such instead of pretending the satirist was trying to fool anyone.
They do. At least, they've changed it so that they do now. Prior they were trying to keep it simple with "True, False, Mostly True, Mostly False, and unconfirmed"
Headline suggestion: "Snopes Fact Checks Star Wars."
@@gavincurtis After all Snopes is just wikipedia for pseudo-intellectuals
When Snopes fact checks your jokes, you know you’ve made it.
That's what I was thinking. Snopes could also bring extra attention, even better!
No one understands humor anymore. And we are all worse off because of it.
Sensitive leftists can't handle reality let alone a joke
There are no comedians in China.
@@raineman1118 You ever wonder what would be written if North Korea had its own satirical sites like the Bee, Onion, Frank, Lampoon, Private Eye, etc.(the Yongbyon Yawn, the Pyongyang Ricochet)?
- "Forced Patriotic Elderly Suffer Through Luncheon Repast of Soil, Grass, & Leaf Pies For Dear Leader, Just Because It's Wednesday"
- "'We're Dying Here,' Says 86 Lbs. Mom Warming Herself At Burning Barrel - 'Dying To Visit The New Eternal Funshine Kimboree Theme Park, Of Course' As Handguns of Dutiful Not-Secret Police Clack and Rack In Approval"
- "40-Year Painter Of NK Propaganda Posters 'Grateful' For State-Made Super-Toxic Paste And Paint Provided - 'The Poisons In Them Keep CV-19 Virus Away' While He Fights Stage 4 Cancer From Asbestos Canvases"
Has Snopes fact checked "Saturday Night Live" or "The Onion"?
Yes.
Or CNN
The Onion is actually pretty cool
@@JRL_ no, they are not. They are racist homophobic bootlickers for the oligarchy.
@@Attmay By our independent fact-checkers the above accusation is mostly false.
The person who came up with the AOC story is hilarious. Just the headline alone makes them a comedic legend.
That anyone would believe TPIR would actually display 'FREE' as an answer (in a different font that the numbers no less) is hilarious!
20 years ago I trusted Snopes for those Urban Legends, they actually were correct the majority of the time. Once they got involved with politics... Who knows...
True.
Snopes wouldn't know the truth if it's life depended on it.
Snopes website is down after it was cought in a infinite feed back loop. The creator has said "we should have never fact checked ourselves"
Who the hell actually pays attention to Snopes?
A lot of people.
a lot of people are idiots
@Oriental Studios ironically they still end up misinformed
Do you alternative site that debunks (or claims to debunk) myths?
I stopped reading Snopes when they explained a slam on H. Clinton and through their description concluded that it was mostly true but then labeled it mostly false, and then when someone said "hate speech already isn't protected according to the supreme court" they labeled it mostly false but then went on to explain why according to SC opinions it is mostly true.
@3:08 Is the fact that a significant amount of people believe satirical articles are authentic an indication of being plagued by "fake news" or an implication of just how absurd the reality of our political and sociological zeitgeist have become?
The study is flawed and misleading. A majority of people don't believe satirical articles are authentic, a majority of people think that the synopses of satirical articles are real.
"A lot of times they missed the joke entirely." Odds are that the people who "miss the joke" are wound too tight, and are emotionally attached to whatever is being made fun of. In the words of the immortal Sgt. Hulka: "Lighten up, Francis."
"Snopes fact-checking the Babylon Bee, dogs and cats sleeping together, it's mass hysteria!"
Living together
Snopes excuses over their conduct towards the Babylon Bee falls flat- they have a vendetta, pure and simple.
This just in. Snopes fact checks it's own fact-checking and finds it's mostly dumb.
Its still more accurate than CNN and MSNBC.
The Bee is amazing. Snopes just keeps showing they are a hack website.
I stopped reading anything on Snopes years ago after finding clear bias in some articles.
When you refuse an interview in a dispute in means you've already admitted defeat
Yes
Not necessarily. Despite the fact that gun control or abortion arguments for example have been THOROUGHLY DEBUNKED, the die hard gun grabbers and my body my choicers still press on. Is there any point in debating those types? Snopes KNOWS that they are habitual liers but do you honestly believe that they care? The only thing that matters to them is the leftist egalitarianism agenda and if lies will get them there so be it...
@@traykunable The only reason anyone ever refuses to answer a question is because they don't like the answer. There is always a point in debating any position worth having.
@@troodon1096
not when it's a 'set up' interview where all your words get twisted later on. Case in point are the 60 Minutes separate interviews of both Trump and De Santis. There's also Robert Downey's interview by a hack BBC reporter.
This proves that you can NEVER do an honest debate or interview with hacks posing as Truth seekers. Not all debates/interviews are real debates/interviews. Many of them are hacks to get you canceled and scorned on.
@@tuberobotto I believe you're absolutely correct what you should do when asked to do those is recorded the entire thing yourself and play that hopefully showing up the interviewer as biased as can be
Babylon Bee = more factual than CNN.
True
And slightly less biased than Snopes.com. 😆
I love the Bee. They are so on-point
This is why we shouldn’t give a single fact checking site the power to regulate social media. We end up giving them the final say.
Unless you troll them. Lol!
Illustrating absurdity by being absurd is the most brilliant sort of humor there is. When leftists who take themselves too seriously can't see the humor in satire makes it that much funnier. :D
2021 and it is DIFFICULT to know if the BB is STILL satire, as reality has become so crazy...sad, strange times, so we need y'all, even more, to keep up your crazy-creative work at the BB!
Did Snopes ever 'fact-check' the Daily Show, esp. when it was hosted by Jon Stewart and Craig Kilborn?
...didn't think so. So why is the Babylon Bee "so special" in this regard, Mikkelsons? lol
I probably never would have read the Babylon Bee if it wasn't for this controversy, but some of the articles are pretty funny.
Bill Maher got fact checked to his face in a livestream "show" I think last year, when he did a one-on-one with Dan Crenshaw with the intent to shame conservatives like Crenshaw. It was a huge pushback to Maher's face as he failed in every turn to dominate the interview due to Crenshaw being well-prepared with facts, and of course there was missing Maher's canned audience jeers and applauses to support him in the usual routine of bullying his guests into submission. Without those, Maher looked like the total jerk loser pundit that he's always been with his fake intelligence and false knowledge he displays on his TV show.
Snopes is the new “Wikipedia” when you mention it.. trust is gone,
Wikipedia is fine too it's a starting point and you look at what their sources are and you read their sources. There's never been such a thing as an infallible text book, because human error and bias are universal. what Wikipedia and similar do is give you a connection to at least one of the arguments about the topic and some initial source is to start from. Frankly that's quite a bit better than the standard peer-review process. I know this having a doctorate and quite a few friends in academia and when you see how many peer-reviewed journals are basically people who think alike agreeing with each other, you realize that is just one group of people with a credential feeling Superior to all. checking their sources is just more time-consuming in a peer-reviewed journal than in online peer review.
@@GunFunZS I know a Wikipedia editor who was sent to a conference in Canada. They sat around joking about how they manipulate Society!
@@moreawakenow6940 I know academics who do exactly the same.
@@moreawakenow6940 and for what it is worth, Wikipedia was a lot better prior to their "notability" policy. the main lesson is not the Wikipedia is bad or that academia is bad, but the any group of people or any source is only as good as its bias allows it to be, and bias is always present.
Wikipedia is very trustworthy if you understand its policies & verify the sources.
The fact that Snopes would even try to fact check these guys is hilarious! 😂
This is genius
Saul Alinsky said that ridicule is the most powerful weapon known to man. If you doubt that just ask Jen Psaki.
The Babylon Bee needs to produce an article about Snopes doing a good job.
Who would fact check the fact checkers?
Thanks Bee, I love all of your stuff!
If this satire is that often thought to be real, then that’s yet another example of why democracy is a joke. Those people can vote
Thank goodness we run a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD Which is a form of democracy.
The sad truth is that a great many people especially those that are left-leaning can not recognize satire at all. I sometimes post the Bee's articles on my Facebook timeline but I remove all references to the Bee and people get incensed at me often getting into violent arguments with me about a particular article especially it concerns a current piece of political news. The same holds true when I post a Borowitz report though many will recognize his work. I truly enjoy triggering these fanatical left-wing fools who can never recognize humor. They deserve to be fooled and the Bee does a great job of taking the piss out of the left. Conservatives will usually just laugh if an article is aimed at them.
In olden times the bee was a symbol for words; buzzing around, sometimes sting, sometimes honey
In this absurd world, it is no wonder that satire can be misconstrued as real. Who would have thought that men could use women's restrooms, that men could compete in women's sports. Those would have been satire 10 years ago.
Babylon Bee is one of the only reasons I go to Facebook anymore. That and to see pictures of my friends’ babies. Facebook should know better than to go after the Bee.
Love the Bee ! But get off Facebook!Have your friends send you pictures of their Children! Zuckerberg is a very bad human !
When a significant portion of your population cannot distinguish between satire and reality the problem is not satire
I must admit I got fooled by Babylon Bee before I knew it was satire. It was the Chik Fil A story. It just seemed real.
You guys are hilarious! I appreciate what u do.
This just in: Babylon Bee has knees that won’t bend to social pressures.
"The Bee's Knees" resurfaces!
I did once have to gently inform a friend that an Onion story about real zombies wasn’t really real. He was so embarrassed that he just stopped talking to me.
0:49 That's the Redragon K552 KUMARA. Excellent keyboard.
You know what the difference is between Penn and Teller and The Long Island Medium?
One is lying to you for your entertainment and telling you they are fooling you. The other is lying to you for your money and not telling you they are fooling you. One sucks and the other doesn't. Snopes and the Babylon Bee are a similar comparison.
Thanks for having Kyle on!
The Onion wishes it was half as funny as Babylon bee
This video is unproven but hints at a larger underlying truth.
This is the result of equality in classrooms that cant leave any child behind as well as media and flouride. The dumbing down of our people is going to become more apparent despite only now that its obvious, this has been a long term investment and generations and possibly even genetics have been comprised.
Isn't snopes owned by some crazy cat lady?
I wonder whether Snopes has fact-checked the number of people who no longer go to them for fact-checking has grown considerably? (I wonder if they'll fact-check that?)
Babylon bee is hilarious. I suggest you all check it daily
I (subjectively of course) find it it and miss. But when it hits, it hits it out of he park.
The Babe Ruth of satire sites. :)
I check that website out at least once a week for the pure gold comedy. They are great 👍🏽!!!!
Snopes has openly lied about stuff that was easily proven to be true and said it was false. How are they the only ones who know what's true?
Thanks!
Snopes launches satirical media brand, investors nowhere to be found
Try the fact that "news" from the Babylon Bee is often shared as REAL news by mouth breathing trumpets, and HAVE to be fact checked to get it right, yet STILL get shared by the mouth breathers as FACT, and you have ample reason for fact checking satire.
Love the BB, one of the few gems I follow on Twitter
"I can't believe it's not the Onion from 1999" is the best statire paper around! Keep it up, Babylon Bee!
Satire is power. Let's tap into that satire and use it as a tool, to expose bullshit.
Let's use that satire not only as a tool, BUT AS A WEAPON
Best part of this video was getting a 'Support AOC' ad at the beginning...right before the satire of her saying everything is free.
“Snoopes” says this ReasonTV clip is MOSTLY true. “Nopes” says this ReasonTV clip is PROBABLY true.
I guess this didn't seem necessary until Trump shared a Babylon Bee article as fact
“It’s the responsibility of companies and the government to help people know the truth.”
Hmmm... how does that sound to you?
The Babylon Bee is excellent.
Their work is funnier than anything that Saturday Night Live has ever done
Unlike Joe Biden, the Babylon Bee actually delivers on the tag line “We choose truth, not facts!”
Unlike Joe Biden, the Babylon Bee is intentionally funny.
"Snopes... just trying to strengthen their media literacy skills" -- 1:07. Yes, without services such as Snopes to spoon-feed us the true narrative, we would be helpless!
you can't be "demonetized" from crypto currencies.
Snopes would have hated Mark Twain.
Reason - good on you for this profile !
I've been a fan of the Babylon Bee since its inception. Christian satire is not new. These guys remind me of the old 'Witenburg Door' cult classic Christian humor magazine from the 80's.
And of course that name alone evokes the memory of the first high profile Christian satirist in history, Martin Luther who beginning in 1517, nailed his 95 points of debate on the church door @ Witenburg Germany.
Luther then began to write lengthy Pamphlets & tracts mixing news, humor, theology & criticism of the Status quo - aimed squarely at the out of control Clergy & their unwarranted dominance of the culture & individual Christians.
If the Babylon Bee wrote of this:
'POPE PRESENTS TARGET SO LARGE EVEN A NEAR SIGHTED MONK CAN'T MISS'
They are the Christian South Park. Without the raunchiness and profanity.
The answer to the problem is real simple: sue. Each and every time they mischaracterize. Use the courts and the weight of the law as a bludgeon against the enemies of free speech and against those who seek deplatforming as a substitute for actual debate. Ruin enough of them, smash their businesses and their futures, and then it will stop
The Babylon Bee to the Moon
Wait....you mean Snopes isn't satire?
AOC caught making kissy faces and winks at Alex Jones.
Snopes: FALSE!!
Me: Duh.
Just saw the Reason TV interview. Do one on how snopes fact checks Family Guy and shows that parity politics!
The is a style of mathematical proof called reductio ad absurdum, in which you presume that a preposition is true, and then extrapolate the consequences of that proposition until it becomes clear that of the original proposition is true, then some clearly false proposition would be true (e.g. 1=0) and thus the original proposition cannot be true. The Babylon Bee satire it's like that, in that it presumes that an assertion in the culture is true, and extends it to show that the foundation of the assertion can be reduced to absurdity, and that the assertion isd therefore false. So the Babylon Bee satire it's in fact a way of expressing the truth, not fake news. QED.
I’m not surprised at this, just angered.
I remember learning about satire in school, we read A Modest Proposal. Shocked at first, but by the time I finished reading it realized the absurdity of the claim. Makes me sad that most people have no clue about satire.
I got a good laugh out of the washing machine CNN joke. Whomever wrote that. Bravo, that was fantastic.
"Think Snopes is the name of a rapper" lolll
The german brother of that is called der postillion.
Check it out and translate some headlines and articles
I love the Bee and read it regularly. People who don't understand satire have no sense of humour. Lighten up people
Snopes is a turgidly humorless site, and incredibly slanted. But TBH, I can't tell you how many times I've shared Babylon Bee articles, and had to deal with people screaming about them because they thought they were real. I've since marked all of them "SATIRE" (in caps), and put a link to a dictionary.
Snopes may be slanted, but what is freaking scarier is how many people are too stupid to get what satire is.
I had a liberal friend try to teach me about fact checking. I humored him(30 some odd year old single pizza delivery career driver) and he brought up Snopes. I just said, OK, you got me there. 🤣😂🤣😂
The Babylon Bee agreed to interview with Reason but Snopes didn’t. Hmm.
3:40 Am I the only one that noticed that insanely awesome drawing?
THIS. THIS IS SO FUNNY
Fact checking the Bee? You go on doing what ya doing cause I think I am not the only one that loves your articles
Haha, I lol even at the examples.