Tech Recruiter Goes INSANE (I actually can't believe these messages are real...)

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  • DO NOT HARASS THIS PERSON.
    Poor Ahmad. Tech recruiters like this should be ashamed. I can't believe this actually happened.
    Getting a job is hard enough already.
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  • @ahmadaccino
    @ahmadaccino หลายเดือนก่อน +835

    yo. its me! hope you devs know that you dont have to take shit from people just because you want a job. you are all worth more than that! ❤

    • @brawlgammer4424
      @brawlgammer4424 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Dude, you handled this like a champion, great stuff! Also, your call on exposing him was 100% correct!
      The way he communicated with you is shameful, he also threatened to essentially blackball you from the industry.
      This is totally unacceptable behavior, we don't need to go on a smearing campaign, but this type of stuff cannot slide and this type of behavior needs to be erased altogether.
      Besides that, wish you all the best!

    • @victor__s
      @victor__s หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      no one can take your skills aways from you, but they will try to take away your trust in them. you did great, I would not be able to do the same😅

    • @rustafarian_dev
      @rustafarian_dev หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have it on good authority he said you doctored that tweet.
      Which I find funny.

    • @not_hehe__
      @not_hehe__ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you handled that extremely well man, very cool

    • @anasouardini
      @anasouardini หลายเดือนก่อน

      We're worth nothing without a good demand on our skills, I'm sinking in debts.

  • @danielthompson2561
    @danielthompson2561 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    I love the recruiter saying “I am sorry - the posts have already impacted my reputation and business image” when the guy literally threatened to blacklist the client.
    “But it’s not fair because it’s MY career”

  • @Maeckboom
    @Maeckboom หลายเดือนก่อน +177

    "The bar for socialization in tech is the floor" - Theo

    • @ahmadaccino
      @ahmadaccino หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      we had to do a bell curve because of arch users

    • @dehrk9024
      @dehrk9024 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey but :( what if were so smart we dont rely on others much?🥺🥺 dont destroy my delusion

    • @geodebreaker
      @geodebreaker หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ahmadaccinolol

    • @fairphoneuser9009
      @fairphoneuser9009 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, is a recruiter "in tech"? They are HR and the first letter of HR means human. But that's quite inhumane.

    • @ahmadaccino
      @ahmadaccino หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fairphoneuser9009 this was poetry damn

  • @Vladimir-re3lp
    @Vladimir-re3lp หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    Jordan Zmick from Think Recruiting should not have a business anymore. Worst of the worst

    • @uuu12343
      @uuu12343 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Think Recruiting cant event think, so they dont even know their main company name

  • @pjmq
    @pjmq หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Tech recruiter for Apple threatened to sue me / blacklist me and proceeded to pass the phone around his office and have all of his colleagues shout at me for turning down an offer from Apple.
    They then told Apple I pulled out because my uncle had died.
    I only found this information out when the guy who I'd interviewed at Apple reached out to me to give his condolences for the passing of my uncle and ask if when I had grieved, I'd like to be recruited directly by them.
    My uncle had not died.
    I came away very impressed with Apple and very unimpressed with English tech recruiters.

  • @frustratedalien666
    @frustratedalien666 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    I have a different take. I don't think the problem here was communication. I think the problem here is that the person is an asshole. Communication skills would have enabled him to send a passive aggressive email that sounded professional enough that Ahmad wouldn't have been able to complain about it on Twitter but would have still felt insulted.
    I've seen that in so many layoff posts, or statements made by politicians, that are outright insulting but cushioned in words that are acceptable in polite society. When assholes learn communication skills, they become more of a threat 😅

    • @ahmadaccino
      @ahmadaccino หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      yes. many recruiters may feel this way in their head about a candidate but will code their words carefully so that they could never get punished for their disrespect

    • @xchronox0
      @xchronox0 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah exactly. The guy had ill intent. He's still going to have ill intent if he knows how to 'communicate better'. Saying softer words doesn't change the fact that he wanted Ahmad out of the industry.
      I'm not in the tech industry myself. But I've worked for someone who can be kind and polite to your face, and then a complete asshole behind your back when used as a reference.
      I haven't heard whether or not he's said anything about me, but he's straight up lied about other former co-workers who were looking for work elsewhere.
      Communicating 'better' is just going to make it harder for people to understand the impact and power he has over them, as well as his intentions.

    • @thehiddenplace
      @thehiddenplace หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly this guy reminds me a lot of myself. If I had that kind of power over people's careers, it doesn't seem impossible that I might slip up and channel all my neuroses into a message like that. I don't think I'm quite that far gone, but this guy is more than an asshole, he's a demented asshole. He's projecting so hard it's bending spacetime.

  • @ivangechev4243
    @ivangechev4243 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    I've had similar experience too. It was awful! I had 10 years of experience in a field I was working previously and went to interview for a job. After the interview ended the HR asked me what is the range of the salary I expect and I told her. The amount wasn't nothing special maybe like 750 euro per month. She replied - "You don't have what to give us for this amount of money and I was shocked. With 10 years of experience in 2 big companies in this field and she acted like that it was insane!

    • @shahabgohar3350
      @shahabgohar3350 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Do not go that low. 10 years of experience is not equal to 750 euro

    • @sudityashrivastav
      @sudityashrivastav หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@shahabgohar3350yeah absolutely! It should be more than 5,000 euro.

    • @ahmadaccino
      @ahmadaccino หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      you're just a number to them. and they made that clear. you dodged a bullet buddy

    • @miervaldis42
      @miervaldis42 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wow ! I don't know when it was but €750 per month with 10 years of experience is like saying "I can work for free" ^^"
      I mean, even now, a person getting a job after finishing school in Paris can earn around €36k per year.
      And I do not know where it happened but in some countries, like in France, it is illegal to be paid less than the minimal average (which is like €1,300 net now)
      Hope your situation is way better now :)

    • @ivangechev4243
      @ivangechev4243 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@miervaldis42 And the sad part is that I left that field to become a developer in order to earn more money. My salary is not much more from the money I just stated above. I got into the tech field in the worst possible time #teamneverlucky

  • @user-cq4nq8dd3e
    @user-cq4nq8dd3e หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    By the way idk if you saw it in chat after but Ramadan doesn't mean he didn't eat for days, but for hours. It's no eating/drinking from sunrise to sunset

    • @kyonblack7901
      @kyonblack7901 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Correct, but even then, not eating the entire working day would make me cranky as fuck.

    • @azmah1999
      @azmah1999 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kyonblack7901Honestly? You get used to it. Maybe you get cranky in the first week, but after that you don't really care much about it

  • @neeeeeck9005
    @neeeeeck9005 หลายเดือนก่อน +191

    for history, primegen was 30 minutes earlier with this video

    • @t3dotgg
      @t3dotgg  หลายเดือนก่อน +119

      Mine was recorded over 24 hours earlier 🙃

    • @MrHenryG123
      @MrHenryG123 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      primegen? you mean hoodie theo

    • @Mihaugoku
      @Mihaugoku หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@MrHenryG123 one has a majestic moustache, the other also has a majestic moustache.

    • @Tresla
      @Tresla หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      History: noted

    • @yamyam263
      @yamyam263 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Ex-FAANG Prime is too OP

  • @ayoubkrt5018
    @ayoubkrt5018 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    "but i got the flu" how many times did u "get the flu" on the people lol

    • @shapelessed
      @shapelessed หลายเดือนก่อน

      "flue"?

    • @ayoubkrt5018
      @ayoubkrt5018 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shapelessed flu**

    • @dmug
      @dmug หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That holds as much water as I was drunk as an excuse

  • @sarjannarwan6896
    @sarjannarwan6896 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    This is 100% believable. When I first started in software I had a recruiter sending me to multiple roles that had nothing to do with software dev and I naively went to the interviews. One of the jobs asked me why I didn't wear a suit and the recruiter thought it was reasonable to give me shit for that too.
    This role was also 2 hours from home by train when I live closer to central London. I discontinued my relationship with this person and they tried gas lighting me about my abilities.
    On multiple occasions I've had recruiters downplay my earning ability (which I ended up achieving by quite a bit). They're also super pushy I feel like. Even when I say I'm passively looking.

  • @francoledesma345
    @francoledesma345 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This also happened to me, this person told me:
    "You will never thrive in a professional environment due to your lack of technical abilities and your attitude towards it" and he was right...
    I'm a co-founder and a CTO at the moment. I still suck at code, but it seems that people around me trust my attitude towards problems, my ability, creativity, and unique approach towards solving them. I guess you can get better at coding by learning from the errors on the terminal. I hope they get better, kinder, more patient human beings by learning from their mistakes as well.

  • @umardevs
    @umardevs หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Just for clarification, Ramadan as a whole lasts 29-30 days (depends on the moon sighting), Muslims fast every day consecutively from sunrise to sunset. You can have meals/drinks before sunrise, and after sunset. The meal/drinks consumed before sunrise is called Suhoor/Sehr and the meal consumed during sunset is called Iftar usually whilst the "Adhan" (Muslim's call to prayer) is calling.
    Feel free to correct me.
    Thank you Theo for covering this, and I'm sorry you had to go through this, Ahmad. And I hope no one has to ever go through this.

  • @DrNefariousX
    @DrNefariousX หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I once had a recruiter that was this disasterously ignorant, and tried to gaslight me that I didn't know the technology I was working with for 12+ years, after trying to recruit me for a position that had nothing to do with the technology stack I had worked with for YEARS. It was mindbogglingly shocking to see. That recruiter was wildly dense. I can't imagine they were successful at that job. Thank you for sharing horror stories like this. I thought I was the only one.

  • @jarrodhroberson
    @jarrodhroberson หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    That is NOT an apology. That is an EXCUSE. An Apology is "I am sorry, I did X, and I understand how X and my actions/words hurt you and explain how, and then explain what you are going to do NOT do X again". This shows you understand WHAT you did, WHY it hurts/injures someone and HOW you are going to change your behavior in the future.

  • @adondriel
    @adondriel หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My college specifically had a "interpersonal development" course ENTIRELY because communication is so poor in the engineering world.

  • @AScribblingTurtle
    @AScribblingTurtle หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ahmad truly dogged a bullet there.
    From my own experience, companies who hire people like this recruiter are either ignorant at best or have even more toxic leadership at worst.

  • @Aleks-fp1kq
    @Aleks-fp1kq หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    work in a team in a big tech MNC, the only permanent staff are the product owner and analyst. The tech staff are all on contract. So sad what software engineering has become.

  • @PhilfreezeCH
    @PhilfreezeCH หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4:40 As someone who regularly schedules meetings across 3+ time zones and given some switched to summer time over the last month, you need to switch calendar invites to UTC+0 and tell them to check the time in their calendar again if you want people to actually be there. Everything else is probably going to fail at some point.

  • @hungrymusicwolf
    @hungrymusicwolf หลายเดือนก่อน

    Theo, I want to thank you for this video. You standing up as avidly as you are here puts a smile on my face. While I haven't met a recruiter like this, I've had to deal with people like this guy more than I'd like to.
    You have no idea how grateful I am seeing people like you standing up in moments like these. These people ruin lives. A single moment with a recruiter like this sucks, but the people that have to work and live with them, or dare I say are exploited by them, sometimes live with that experience haunting them for a lifetime.

  • @lewisw5048
    @lewisw5048 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You're easily quickly becoming one of my favourite tech channels :)

  • @UffeHellum
    @UffeHellum หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The perfect recruiter is simultaneously a filter for the hiring org, and a babysitter/ego-propper-upper for the candidates.
    I fail to see how an "impulsive" person can be that. Confusing "excuses and begging" for "an apology" is not a real good sign either. An apology does not contain excuses, and does not contain requests to cover up the story.
    I would be more harsh than you, in the assessment of engineers. We are not only shitty communicators, spellers, social connectors. We are very often needy, with ego-problems and boundary problems and time management problems.
    When I set up impromptu meetings with fellow engineers, I say "at 12:40 your time, ninety minutes from now, right?". I hate time zones, but many of us have a watch or a phone, and can say "two hours earlier than now, tomorrow, at 3pm your time?". The intellectual laziness of not checking your client's time zone is expected of engineers, not of organizers.

  • @LuisM_Santana
    @LuisM_Santana หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a great video, I saw some references to this but in here really great all the context and advices. And yeah, this person should not be working as a recruiter. BTW, this can get much worse if you're outside the US, is a crazy world out there

  • @ademmohammed3939
    @ademmohammed3939 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is by far the most practical advice I take from this channel. I have barely missed a video in 18 months.

  • @SomeDudeInBaltimore
    @SomeDudeInBaltimore หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "I am sorry, I am sick with the flu" sounds like a variation on the classic "blame the Ambien" response.

  • @gomi-hako
    @gomi-hako หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    That's why if I specify time, I always do it in UTC and append UTC. This way it's always clear.

    • @addanametocontinue
      @addanametocontinue หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Nobody can convert UTC to their local time in their head and not everybody wants to google the difference, either. Just send an invite and be done with it.

    • @avishjha4030
      @avishjha4030 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@addanametocontinue Don't speak for others. If you can't add / subtract some hours (and maybe a half hour fraction) that's on you.

    • @headbangingidiot
      @headbangingidiot หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh yeah? Well I only communicate in seconds since epoch

    • @EdwinMartin
      @EdwinMartin หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that with or without daylight savings time? So how is this easier?

    • @avishjha4030
      @avishjha4030 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EdwinMartin The person living in an area that follows DST needs to acount for that. It's like +-1 HR 2 times a year. Not a big deal. Else just use a conversion website if that's still a problem.

  • @felixallistar
    @felixallistar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How to Win Friends and INfluence people should be recommending along with every course. i was getting 9s and got a 5/5 on ap lang and had articles published, but i was still an aspie. being a good writer isn't even the same at understanding how to communicate personably. that book and FC'ing on eve online taught me more than writing ever did.

  • @alcar32sharif
    @alcar32sharif หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The first 2 sentences of the first response are absolutely unacceptable.

  • @TimeLemur6
    @TimeLemur6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Honestly, a professional communication in ANY medium ending with "?!?" was already a red flag.

    • @bawbsmith
      @bawbsmith หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What do you mean?!? I think it’s totally fine to write like this?!?

  • @trontrontrontron4
    @trontrontrontron4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    just the fact that he decided to bring up his college exp into it as if somehow people who finish college never make scheduling mistakes (which our dev guy didn't do anyways) just shows that he was looking to offend and humiliate instead of honestly resolving the timing issue. let him get cooked. action have consequences.

  • @garland-key
    @garland-key หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a developer, I find recruiters to be flaky and inconsiderate in general. In the reverse, I think and feel these things, but I have the restraint to keep it to myself.

  • @_jovian
    @_jovian หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This dude is probably an external agency recruiter. They are basically sales people who rely on their reputation with their clients to provide viable product(SWEs). Seems like he's not doing too well at it and taking it out on the product.

  • @IanZamojc
    @IanZamojc หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Theo is nearly 75% through his transformation into Robert Patrick in the Double Dragon movie.

    • @complexity5545
      @complexity5545 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most people won't get it. LoL

    • @uuu12343
      @uuu12343 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hate that I understood that reference...

  • @LinkEX
    @LinkEX หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:37 That paragraph alone just reeks of narcissism.
    Reproachful, judgmental, condescending, and, ironically, accusing _others_ of narcissism.
    So your conclusion at 2:05 is absolutely on point.

  • @SHIVAMPANDEYSJTG
    @SHIVAMPANDEYSJTG หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such things happen and it is real. I still remember a senior dev told me when I was in initial phase of my very first job " I knew nothing and they should have better screening process" just because I didn't knew how to use vi editor. I am still not an expert at it but it has been more than 3 years now and I am doing just fine.
    People are always going to be rude and harsh.

  • @addanametocontinue
    @addanametocontinue หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What kind of idiot schedules an event and doesn't send an invite to make sure we're all on the same page about the time? Some places recognize daylight savings and some don't, so even if somebody told you they were in Mountain Time, there is still the ambiguity of whether they are in MST or MDT because not all places recognize daylight savings or have it take effect on the same day of the year.

  • @devOnHoliday
    @devOnHoliday หลายเดือนก่อน

    The worse thing a recruiter said to me was 'if you're getting paid only this amount, you can't tell the employer you're expecting this amount'
    Who are you to decide that?
    On the other hand I've had other recruiters tell me 'It seems you are underpaid, I'll put your expected amount as your current salary and put a higher amount as your expected salary'. They know their job

  • @xchronox0
    @xchronox0 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "These posts have already impacted my business and image." is not something you include in an apology for what you've done.
    He's realizing there were consequences for his actions this time, and he's trying to apologize to escape them.

  • @GokuHindustani
    @GokuHindustani หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's not about communication or he do not wan to work with him anymore but the fact he wanted to end his career for simple misunderstanding is narcissism at peak

  • @Imaginativeone_DF
    @Imaginativeone_DF หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love…LOVE your channel.

  • @LaserFur
    @LaserFur หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having the time in text helps. I didn't realize when the calendar feature was added that the email client changes it based on the set time zone in the email client. For example in thunderbird you have to go to settings -> calendar and set the time zone.

  • @Helios-om2bv
    @Helios-om2bv หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I had a similar thing happened to me, interview sent invite link/mail to google meets meeting, she wrote 2.30 pm but email title, calendar and everything else said 5.30 do to different time zones 3 hours difference. I gave confirmation for 5.30 time via gmail shortcut. When time for interview came she gave a lot of shit, like "so you don't know how to open and read email" and so on. Interview was about developing AI, and when i mentioned open source alternatives to GPT4 she said; why don't you use "gpt API it's free" needles to say she didn't really know much about the AI or HR :D

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the OpenAI API is definitely not free if you intend to do anything even remotely reliable to be used commercially.

  • @M3R14M.
    @M3R14M. หลายเดือนก่อน

    Worst thing is that this P.O.S. is the owner of the company. Not just some random bad hire, but the actual face of the company.

  • @havocthehobbit
    @havocthehobbit หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The problem with recruiters , hiring managers and companies fronts , is they know that they have the power , just due to the oversaturation of the industry and needs of applicants for a job. When people know they have power ,at least 10% of them will abuse it , especially when they are incentivized by money to speed up a process , without oversite on how they achieve their goal of getting and managing applicants .
    Getting into a job in the dev industry has become an extremely toxic experience , especially for newbies and juniors just entering into the business world .
    15 years ago it was actually pleasurable to interview , now its 4 interviews with the same company tests and interrogations and tons dont even come back to you after they say they will get back to you and youve been through there excruciating process being whittled down to one of the final picks .

    • @kevinb1594
      @kevinb1594 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Market is not oversaturated. There is actually a shortage of SKILLED developers. Employers have no power, they're fronting.

    • @YTDeletes90PercentOfMyComments
      @YTDeletes90PercentOfMyComments หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@kevinb159499% of pr, hr, sales, etc is about fronting and lying to you

    • @Aleks-fp1kq
      @Aleks-fp1kq หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What's skilled Dev is relative, what we know for absolute is that millions of people from all walks of life have joined the gold rush.

    • @havocthehobbit
      @havocthehobbit หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kevinb1594 well for one I specifically pointed out that , especially hard for juniors an newbies if you judge skill by experience and that should not make a difference in what and how power people hold over you if you are not skilled .However if you judge it by scale of knowledge then there are hundreds of thousands of highly trained devs, just look at indian and asian countries alone. If you are talking about uniquely skilled then that is not special to any industry as most companies may want uniquely skilled but are looking to hire general developers that can just do the job and work in teams well , that is a dime a dozen .
      The point is they wield power because they have choices of hundreds to thousands of people at there hands . So yes it is over-saturated, not even taking into account all the devs re-entering the market because of mass layoffs everywhere, the competition means hundreds or even thousands of resumes/cv's are being sent to hiring agents and companies for one job posting , it's become a highly competitive market that has a ton of skilled unemployed people .

  • @nicholaswood3250
    @nicholaswood3250 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who has conducted interviews at both a startup and a large tech company, the idea that this recruiter could actually affect hiring decisions across the industry is just so laughable to me

  • @yonavoss-andreae4952
    @yonavoss-andreae4952 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have total sympathy for screwing up time zones. Such a pain to work with, especially with those that don’t have much experience collaborating cross time zone

  • @hundvd_7
    @hundvd_7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    2:42 He fixed innapropriate _English_ messages in an hour
    The 6th comment means something very nuce in Hungarian :)

    • @computerfan1079
      @computerfan1079 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When I saw the kurva I knew enough lol

  • @_neuromanser_
    @_neuromanser_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blocked Jordan right now from my LinkedIn account. Thanks for mentioning this.

  • @immigrationtime
    @immigrationtime หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lol, he contacted me, too. So happy it didn’t go further

  • @complexity5545
    @complexity5545 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When rent is due, recruiters (and recruits) can easily tilt into rage mode.
    Notice its near the first of the month.
    This is normal behavior when the recruiters are less intelligent than the recruits.
    That outward anger spurt doesn't happen all the time, but you do get blacklisted if a recruiter feels abandoned; they get paid based on recruits.
    P.S.
    I still and only use recruiting websites, just to frequency chart the popular skills that the job market wants. I use it for tracking stocks; I hope I didn't burst my own bubble.

  • @DoctorMGL
    @DoctorMGL หลายเดือนก่อน

    great take Theo . well done

  • @sebastianespinosa1182
    @sebastianespinosa1182 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That guy is the reason why bulling exists, if you can't have your ego controlled, the rest will do it for you

  • @G1esas
    @G1esas หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sorry for the potential annoying question, but - what is that browser? what was that thingy like "spotlight" of mac, but in browser to open tab?

    • @ByteBound
      @ByteBound หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Arc

    • @mblackritter
      @mblackritter หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ByteBound, *Aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr(gggggggggg)ccccccsssssss!* 🙀 ✊🏻 😹💦 🇩🇪💙🇷🇺

  • @kjetilhartveit
    @kjetilhartveit หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree he was way out of line in both the coms with Ahmad and the "apology". Deserves the outing and I applaud you for it

  • @_SharianDabre
    @_SharianDabre หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any advanced project ideas to learn and understand all advance concepts of next.Js?

  • @semyaza555
    @semyaza555 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tech recruiters all feel and think this way btw. Some are just bad at hiding it.

  • @advertslaxxor
    @advertslaxxor หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Life happens. If you can't understand this in any capacity, recruiter or manager, or whatever.
    Further, there is really no reason to lash out at another adult like this over something as small and insignificant as this!! I mean, you'd honestly think from the tone of this that someone died due to negligence.

    • @SnowTheParrot
      @SnowTheParrot หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      maybe nobody died of negligence...
      but how may people lost the chance at a job because of it?
      how many talented people who've been working their ass off to make it in this world were treated like this and turned away?
      if we have people like this recruiting then great people will be pushed away.
      and thats a problem. a problem that wont stop unless someone brings light to the situation and hopefully triggers a change.
      think about it...the recruiter literally said that he was going to do whatever he could to make sure ahmad couldnt get a job anywhere.
      thats scary

    • @advertslaxxor
      @advertslaxxor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SnowTheParrot Hey man, that's what I'm saying. There's no reason to treat anyone like that (as in, the recruiter's messages). It makes you think he killed his dog or something. It's crazy.

    • @SnowTheParrot
      @SnowTheParrot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@advertslaxxor ahhhhhh. i gotcha. and obviously completely agree!

  • @tipsypineapple
    @tipsypineapple หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it's good that everyone has been bringing light to that disgusting behaviour from the stupid recruiter.

  • @TheItamarp
    @TheItamarp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @Theo fair warning, in the dark mode is the best site, the 6th (?) message under the "mohamed amine ayadi" message, is cursing in Hungarian...

  • @SgtVenom
    @SgtVenom หลายเดือนก่อน

    2024 tech recruitment is already brutal and its people like these who makes us the devs even more hopeless, not everyone will have a platform to be visible, not everyone has the confidence to raise the voice, here in India the situation is so bad people won't say a word and die inside thinking it was their mistake.
    Never give up.
    P.S. I just realised how bad I am at communication while writing this comment, took me around 10 minutes to type out my exact thoughts

  • @professoryaffle332
    @professoryaffle332 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:41
    I love how the recruiters first attempt at an apology boils down to "Yo, I'm sick and drugged up. Decided to work in that condition. Now my fucking around has been found out. Please delete the evidence of my general shittiness" . . . sends message, reads message after sending, can't quite put his finger on what's missing, notices the glaring omission . . . "I'm also sorry".
    What an absolute clown.

  • @LeahLundqvist
    @LeahLundqvist หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "I am sorry I got caught"

  • @yasmeennasir8286
    @yasmeennasir8286 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im not shocked by this at all. There has been a few hiring managers that give off mediocre vibes and demand respect when not deserved

  • @JohnPywtorak
    @JohnPywtorak หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did the text messages change format? iMessage then ? Android or other ?

  • @yoelfaivelzon8183
    @yoelfaivelzon8183 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shaming is an ugly and immoral thing. He wrote an insulting message, write him back. Don't cancel Him.

  • @makeitreality457
    @makeitreality457 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I am sorry" is more than enough. NObody apologizes these days. No need to explain. As someone who means what they say, when someone says they are sorry, it is easy to accept that. If it becomes a regular pattern, then maybe it needs attention or explanation. But other than that, it's okay to save everyone time by moving on with some rewarding activity.

  • @frusanov
    @frusanov หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It reminded me of a story when I conducted several technical interviews in a row with hell of a diarrhea. Thanks god in our company nobody cares about turned on camera and microphone. Every my turn was like: I turn on the mic, I ask guy some technical questions, I turn off the mic and continue to shit violently. So flu is not excuse for such behavior. Professional can find a way to do their work good in any condition.

  • @jefffrederick258
    @jefffrederick258 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's messages like this that have made me appreciate going outside and touching grass.

  • @josefaguilar2955
    @josefaguilar2955 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There must something about recruiting in Chicago. I had one recruiter essentially try to berate my skills to interview for a position with lower pay than I currently make in a role with more responsibility.

  • @necmi030
    @necmi030 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At the end, the recruiter wouldn’t take responsibility for his own actions

  • @spiffyh
    @spiffyh หลายเดือนก่อน

    Went through a recruiter once for a job. Once was enough for me. Not worth it as they don't really do much of anything for you, but want to take a substantial cut of your pay. Better to go straight to the company in my opinion.

  • @trapfethen
    @trapfethen หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would say that the communication classes should happen earlier in the school life and be mandatory for all students that don't have a language or learning disability that would make it impractical for them. (There are mental conditions that just straight up make communication difficult. It would be nice if there were companion courses tailored to those conditions for people with it to take and sections in the regular communication classes tailored to how to communicate with individuals with certain conditions. I.E. limit long-winded story telling when communicating important details to someone with ADHD, avoid indirect language when communicating with someone who has autism, etc. So many miscommunications occur every day just based around these differences). Additional points for how to identify regional idioms that may not transfer well to other regions, empathetic communication skills that attempt to communicate instructions from the perspective of someone with the domain knowledge of the target audience, etc. Bonus bonus points if we also cover non-professional communication standards to help avoid misunderstandings even in personal lives (less misunderstandings means less misery, arguments and possibly even violence).
    These skills are very important in the professional world, and are infinitely transferrable.

  • @charliejoseph765
    @charliejoseph765 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now we just need to expose Recruiters that are ghosting people too

  • @awesomekalin55
    @awesomekalin55 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Luckily in the UK, you aren't allowed to give negative references to other employers. The USA is a strange place...

  • @mudaquetoca
    @mudaquetoca หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lawyers be salivating seeing this

  • @tuckerbeauchamp8192
    @tuckerbeauchamp8192 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got to add the fact that time zones just changed as well. It threw my whole team off. Multiple people missed stand up since we’re all in different timezones 🤷

  • @RicusNortje
    @RicusNortje หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats why I did a toastmasters course, not to learn how to give large speeches but instead to learn how to not be uncomfortable when talking and also how to learn how to properly listen to other when they talk.

  • @logosecho8530
    @logosecho8530 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would have been more comfortable if there wasn't such unilateral dismissal for the possibility that someone may experience a severe crisis or episode that causes them to act like this, which certainly shouldn't be worth ruining someone's career over. That said the recruiter did reveal himself to incompetent and unfit for the job when he asked for the posts to be taken down, so I think it is justifiable to expose them publicly. I would just appreciate some acknowledgement that an impulse may indeed manifest as something more hurtful and elaborate than a "fuck you".

  • @Nethezbet
    @Nethezbet หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Wrote whole paper in 7 hours" -perfect score.
    ADHD. 😆

  • @AtRiskMedia
    @AtRiskMedia หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saw this happen in real time! Bonkers

  • @dorianxonic
    @dorianxonic หลายเดือนก่อน

    “I’ll make sure other recruiters know about you” … “can you take the posts down? Nobody wants me to recruit for them anymore”

  • @miguelquintero6117
    @miguelquintero6117 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video theo

  • @thoughtsuponatime847
    @thoughtsuponatime847 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Does anyone know how I can contact a good recruiter? I am an unemployed software architect who has dealt with some serious tragedy since covid. Now I can't get any work whatsoever. No one is interested in even interviewing me. I'm looking for data entry work now.

    • @Aleks-fp1kq
      @Aleks-fp1kq หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe you could share a bit more, like which country you are living in l.

    • @thoughtsuponatime847
      @thoughtsuponatime847 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Aleks-fp1kqUSA. Living in Cleveland. Looking to move to Delaware. I have a BS in Computer Science with a gpa of 3.96. Full stack web developer with a specialty in Angular.
      All of that seems irrelevant though because zero companies have responded after several months. I am looking for data entry work at the moment because I'm running low on hope for CS work. (still applying though)

    • @Aleks-fp1kq
      @Aleks-fp1kq หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thoughtsuponatime847 I am not in the USA, can't get you a job. But, I have been through exactly the same stuff. Being FE is not a good way to promote yourself once you cross 35, you need to promote yourself as senior architect - systems design, cloud, full stack. Also, you can try to look for jobs in the Netherlands, Germany, Ireland or South East Asia. All the best mate.

  • @327efrain
    @327efrain หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was like 45 mins late to my interview because it was my first time dealing with someone in a different time zone. Thankfully it was just a phone screening and I ended up getting the job. The people I work most closely with are eastern so I just do all my thinking in eastern time. Lol

  • @adarshkumar-ln1hm
    @adarshkumar-ln1hm หลายเดือนก่อน

    I shudder to think , what would have happened if it was me or other developer with little to no , social media platform presence.

  • @carmalinekeshi9296
    @carmalinekeshi9296 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't do honors English but last time I checked 'communication' has the same root as 'commute' meaning to go back and forth.
    It seems rather strange to me that engineers need to communicate better with normies yet normies won't put in any effort to communicate with engineers because they're 'not technical'.
    That's not much of a back-and-forth in my book.

  • @JeremyAndersonBoise
    @JeremyAndersonBoise หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad this person got outed for their behavior.

  • @pcap8810
    @pcap8810 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's important to keep in mind that an apology is about you, not the person you hurt - you're asking them for forgiveness, so first you need to give them something. If you want to really apologize, here are the elements: Acknowledge what you did and state your understanding of how it harmed the other person. Explain why you know it was wrong. Lay out why you think you did the thing WITHOUT SOUNDING LIKE YOU'RE OFFERING AN EXCUSE. To avoid sounding like you're giving an excuse, lay out the steps you will take in the future to make sure you don't repeat the behavior. This makes it clear that you know your behavior is at all times your responsibility, 100%. Finally, offer your help making things right if there is a way to do it - come up with an idea to help yourself, and state that you're open to other remedies if the other person has anything in mind. With all of this said, then you can ask for forgiveness.

  • @klc3rd
    @klc3rd หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I was Ahmed, I would have forwarded that to the client too, so they know who they have representing them. Although thankfully, I’m sure they saw.

  • @andythedishwasher1117
    @andythedishwasher1117 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Engineers don't need communication classes. We need to talk to people more. We need to understand why we build stuff by listening to the people who need it instead of just trying to grab data structures out of their sentences.

  • @MrDragos360
    @MrDragos360 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If someone would talk like this to me I won't ever bother with them. Just tell them something like: "You crazy man, thanks for helping me dogge a bulet by working with someone like you. Bye"

  • @XXMOHAMED
    @XXMOHAMED หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Ahmad" the way you say it ((:

  • @vanjastojanovic5023
    @vanjastojanovic5023 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IMPO, we should shame this type of behaviour. Our business domain (the engineering domain specifically) is a professional one, where we work with all types of people, which forces us to be patient and act respectfully to one another, otherwise how are we different from monkeys who just happened to build the Internet?
    As said many people bring many types of personalities, traits, and behaviours, so why should we go out of our way for the simple reason of bringing harm? Imagine is that you were in Ahmad’s place and someone gave you this crap, that’s not corporatism, it’s plain lack of discipline and basic emphatic interactions, people like this should not work as “HR” or “Recruiter”, roles where soft skills are the baseline.
    Support for every person, not just devs, that went through this.

  • @canepaper967
    @canepaper967 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't even talk to recruiters lol, I only talk to companies directly.

  • @Nellak2011
    @Nellak2011 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From what I see so far, the recruiter seems to lack empathy or understanding and also is extremely unprofessional.
    It may be true that the client was being difficult, or not, but even if it was true, you can't just directly curse them out! In a professional setting you have to filter out those thoughts into a passive aggressive and seemingly kind way. But never in a directly hostile way.
    Assuming the client was not being obtuse, then it just shows how hostile and unprofessional the recruiter was.
    So in either case, what the recruiter did was uncalled for and incorrect.

  • @sanicspeed1672
    @sanicspeed1672 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:08 are those failed xss attacks?

    • @Wampa842
      @Wampa842 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      '[object Object]'

    • @uuu12343
      @uuu12343 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Filtered yeah, Ahmed sanitized the input strings which is practically fundamental but people may miss out

  • @fgregerfeaxcwfeffece
    @fgregerfeaxcwfeffece หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh, he is sorry. Clearly he is sorry he got caught doing this to the wrong person. He will happily do it again when he feels safe about it. That's very clearly what I read here. But I still disagree with the methods here on principle, media literacy is basically non existent. And posting names in these situations is just the thing I associate with shady people. Because of said low literacy. These things proof nothing so they are inevitably just slander if used like this.

  • @denzilv
    @denzilv หลายเดือนก่อน

    I made it into Theo's chat! 😂
    Couldn't be a better video to be in. 🤙

  • @ravenecho2410
    @ravenecho2410 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @11:30 i went out drinking, before a term paper was due. Blacked out, was telling ppl i had to write said paper... i remember sitting down and making myself write... and then morning and hangover
    I had to google the paoer and several paragraphs to ensure i didnt plagarize 😂😂
    I think i hot like a 90% lmao, also its not cool to do drugs and not try... teachers and classes are there to help u learn, i judt was a bit lost at that time in my college experience.... 😊

  • @lautarodapin
    @lautarodapin หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't imagine this recruiter going on meets with people from around the world xD