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Hey.. I need some advice for my wheel combination, im using 27.5 wheelset, is it okay if im using 2.8in on front, and 2.6in rear? Is it safe for jumps? 🙏 Original setup both was 2.6in
@@meganNefarious for me, my stumpy was very plush (alloy comp) it absorbed everything and was great for technical downhills as the tires never left the ground. the evil is quite the opposite, it prefers to be airborne. it can and will jump off anything. I had to force the stumpy to get airborne vs I have to force the Evil to stay down. Poppy is the word often used for Evils and deservedly so.
@@punisher9oneone Interesting... I'm curious if the weight of the alloy was weighing you down....? Plus what are the suspension differences? Could the more agile feeling come from better suspension?
Looking forward to "normality" again so we can have bike festivals where you can demo a bunch of bikes. I've only ever ridden a Stumpy, so curious how other bikes compare.
@@drewgalbraith4499 This is true. I work at a bike shop. We have bikes in stock, but if someone comes in wanting to leave that day with a mountain bike, they have to spend minimum $3500. Everything $600-$3000 is sold out for the foreseeable future.
Hey bro! Great talking with you today at Kinetik Cycles!!! I'm the guy who was telling you about the Shigura brakes. You're also the reason I went to Kinetik, I ended up buying a 2022 Transition Patrol. So far, I am loving the bike, feels indestructible with amazing small bump compliance. It's been a riot up on Fromme. Hopefully see you out on the trails!
Kinetic is my favorite bike shop. They have a huge selection of bikes and brands. And they just have more bike accessories and parts to pimp out your ride than the average shop. And very friendly knowledgeable staff. Kudos also to Lynn Valley Bikes and Giant White Rock/Langley. My fave bike here... The Slayer.
I have a Ripmo v1. It pedals amazing and gives you very quick response. I was concerned with it not having enough rear travel, but I've ridden it at the Bike parks and really rowdy stuff and it just works so well. The shorter wheel base gives it a more playful feel. For only having 145 in the rear, it is amazing.
I absolutely loved the Ripmo V2 that I rented in Sedona back in October. Thing was a pedaling machine out there. Hardly felt the 90 deg heat. I'm thinking about getting the Ripmp AF frame and building it up!
I demo’ed a 29” Slayer and immediately ordered a 27.5” C90 in red. I fully expected it to pedal like a pig and was pleasantly surprised. At the park it’s a monster...
I have an Evil Following V3 with an 11.6 coil on the back. It’s the craziest, best bike I’ve ever ridden. Based on what you’ve said in previous videos you should definitely consider that V3 Wreckoning. The super short chainstays combined with the DELTA linkage make for a super fun and snappy good time. Especially for right and twisty north shore jank
Its pretty wild to see all differences between manufacturers and the rear shock locations and linkages and triangles! I want them all 🤣🤣🤣 Great video 🤘
I personally think that the Evil Wreckoning is the clear choice here, that along with the Nomad, and the Sight. Delta is amazing as are the shorter chainstays. I owned a sight for this past season before switching to a Yeti-SB150 and can't say enough good things about it. It's also worth noting that you can throw a 170mm fork and install a longer stroke shock 55-57.5 on the sight if you were to desire more travel.
The slayer is now available with 180mm of front travel on both 27.5 and 29 bikes. Still 170 in the back though. It is also 200mm dual crown compatible.
I bought the Sight A3 in December and love the bike! I only had a couple chances to ride here in north Idaho (actually at Beacon Hill in Spokane) but the slack headtube angle and 29" wheels already saved my bacon over some sketchy parts of some trails. Very smooth and the build you were looking at would be awesome! I am an intermediate rider and only about a year of singletrack on a fatty hardtail but I am a fan of the Norco. It climbs pretty well. too.
I would vote for the Wreckoning. I have a Following MB and an Offering. The older model you looked at, same color with X01 and 160 Lyrik. I've also recently had an Ibis HD4 to compared to. Evil's rear suspension has an amazing feel and all of their bikes have built in fun factor. I grew up on BMX too and love the playful feel! The stuff you ride warrants the big version, but the Offering is also very capable with a 160 fork and punches above it's weight. Good luck with whatever you go with!
I was thinking of buying an Enduro and a DH bike by the end of 2021, but I think I will just lose my mind and go for the Wreckoning only. It's so cool. Look at that frame!!
I rode a Evil Wreckoning since three years now. Its a amazing bike ! I just buy the Specialized enduro 2121 for the next season. But I think Its Time for you to bleed black !
I have an Offering V2 with the Push 11-6 coil. It's amazing! I'm waiting for the ACS-3 coil conversion for my Fox 36 fork. Air suspension is lighter , but can't effectively compete with a coil spring!
Choices, choices, all good ones! At least your LBS has all of those bikes available! I have a V1 Ripmo, and love it. I lengthened the fork to 170mm, put a negative 1.5 degree angle headset in, it rocks! I live in Asheville, NC. Works great for my local trails and bike parks. If I were to choose one of those in your video, it would either be the Knolly Chilcotin, or the Santa Cruz Nomad. Probably the Nomad, with a Cascade Components LT link, and Fox 38 with a 180mm air spring. It would rip!!
I think we all saw your new bike on Loam Ranger's video yesterday, unless that was a demo ;) Part of me would also think, throw a good coil shock and Fox 38 or Zeb at the Enduro and it will be outperforming most of this list. Of what is on that list, I think the Altitude would probably suit what Nick rides the most, the bit more nimble handling vs the freeride bikes helps on North Shore stuff, but still has the travel to take the big hits. I own a Ripmo myself, it's a great bike, but I think it would be a little undergunned on the North Shore, the DVO suspension is absolutely amazing though.
Don't know if you know this about the '21 DHX2 VanCan but it is very easy to make stroke adjustments. Takes about 5 minutes, all you have to do is take the spring off. No tearing the damper apart.
I really don't love how the rear end of those Evil bikes look! I'm like you in that looks are bigger deal than they should be. That includes build and paint. Those altitudes are beautiful. Though, a carbon "build-my-ride" Sight is way up there too. Looking forward to your next video!
Call me Sherlock - but was I the only one that saw the Norco Sight around the 20:30-21:00 mark mounted up with Nobl wheels. VanCan is sponsored by Nobl. Just saying 😜
Awesome Video, i almost choose a Evil or a Ripmo too. But in the end I ended up with a nice Deviate Highlander because in my opinion this is the best All Mountain Bike you can get right now. Nice Fox Suspension Front and Rear now and AXS Drivetrain :)
nice video man! I've been debating an evil wreckoning. however living in the Scottish highlands i do a fair bit of peddling. you had a look at the new spesh SJ evo? cascade components have even made a linkage for it to bump it to 160mm rear. might be worth a look dude.
Late to the party. Thanks for the great reviews. What you said about the Knolly's suspension feel... I completely agree. Even my smaller Endorphin feels like a smaller version of my DH rigs perfectly damped suspension. Its so controlled and confidence inspiring. Not sure how much the coil out back contributes to that feel. Only one small issue with Knolly bikes... The frames are a bit hefty - but the ride, well its second to none. Thanks again. Oh, and on a completely separate note, Santa Cruz should offer that Oxblood red color on every model.
@@mrvwbug4423 I saw that and that's what led me to believe that it was what he got, he also seems to really like the fast ones more but as he said maybe he's changing idk
Already know what new bike I want to get, just waiting to pay off my current new bike to free up some credit… Got a 2020 Trek Remedy and Trek Roscoe. Next bike Zerode Katipo gearbox bike.
Want to see what bike I chose? It's live on Patreon right now! bit.ly/SupportVANCAN
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I want the santa cruz
@@MTBZenMaster Good idea!
Definitely go with the evil wreckoning
Hey..
I need some advice for my wheel combination, im using 27.5 wheelset, is it okay if im using 2.8in on front, and 2.6in rear?
Is it safe for jumps? 🙏
Original setup both was 2.6in
i personally would try something like an evil or a mondraker, because those are just so different but maybe they suit you better as every other bike
EVIL!!! Love my Offering. Upgraded to the Offering from a 2019 Stumpjumper and extremely happy I did. night and day different bike.
What are the differences? I'm currently on a 2019 s-works stumpy 29er
@@meganNefarious for me, my stumpy was very plush (alloy comp) it absorbed everything and was great for technical downhills as the tires never left the ground. the evil is quite the opposite, it prefers to be airborne. it can and will jump off anything. I had to force the stumpy to get airborne vs I have to force the Evil to stay down. Poppy is the word often used for Evils and deservedly so.
@@punisher9oneone Interesting... I'm curious if the weight of the alloy was weighing you down....? Plus what are the suspension differences? Could the more agile feeling come from better suspension?
@@meganNefarious Evils Delta link is superior to stumpys Horst link design. It just feels better. Going up or down.
Looking forward to "normality" again so we can have bike festivals where you can demo a bunch of bikes. I've only ever ridden a Stumpy, so curious how other bikes compare.
V3 Wreckoning in orange with all the AXS goodies would be my choice
mines on order!
yessssssssssss
Coral*
Rocking that with the ohlins DH38 M1.
@@wd2859 omg that would be smexxy
I'm amazed to see Kinetik has any bikes in stock given what covid has done to stocks
Something tells me that the higher end bikes are probably easier to get your hands on whereas the entry-mid level bikes are much harder to get
@@drewgalbraith4499 Well looks like thats my excuse for explaining to the missus why I'm bringing home an 8k Knolly?
I have no choice.
@@drewgalbraith4499 That is my guess too....although Santa Cruz is almost fully sold out despite their pricetag
@@drewgalbraith4499 This is true. I work at a bike shop. We have bikes in stock, but if someone comes in wanting to leave that day with a mountain bike, they have to spend minimum $3500. Everything $600-$3000 is sold out for the foreseeable future.
Guess i'll have to wait a while to update my old clunky diamondback
Please get the evil wreckoning.
Hey bro! Great talking with you today at Kinetik Cycles!!! I'm the guy who was telling you about the Shigura brakes. You're also the reason I went to Kinetik, I ended up buying a 2022 Transition Patrol. So far, I am loving the bike, feels indestructible with amazing small bump compliance. It's been a riot up on Fromme. Hopefully see you out on the trails!
That’s awesome! Thanks for watching!
I would take the Wreckoning, it looks sooo good!
next up: 5 "bikes i should have bought" videos (don't get me wrong i loved them)
That shop carries just about everything but Pivot, the new Switchblade is a beautiful all mountain rig.
My dad ordered a Trail 429 is August... Pivot is now saying that he will get it in May :/
Absolutely, new V3 Evil Wreckoning....
I would definitely get the Rocky Mountain Slayer
Kinetic is my favorite bike shop. They have a huge selection of bikes and brands. And they just have more bike accessories and parts to pimp out your ride than the average shop. And very friendly knowledgeable staff. Kudos also to Lynn Valley Bikes and Giant White Rock/Langley.
My fave bike here... The Slayer.
Plot twist: nick already has had a commencal on pre order since august.
😈
Yeah meta am would have definitely been a contender 👌 I would have got one just got impatient and didn’t want to wait 😂
@@NT-uf6ho all their new bikes feel too racy. I bought a 2020 clash because it didn’t have the new geo.
@@MaxHancockMusic i miss the slacker seat tube angles of yester-year, they suited my knees better!
@@MaxHancockMusic Slash? Thats what i bought, same reason, super sick, really playful still.
I have a Ripmo v1. It pedals amazing and gives you very quick response. I was concerned with it not having enough rear travel, but I've ridden it at the Bike parks and really rowdy stuff and it just works so well. The shorter wheel base gives it a more playful feel. For only having 145 in the rear, it is amazing.
Top three contenders for me are the evil wreckoning (I had one and personally loved it), the Norco sight, and the nomad.
I would personally get the altitude. I like a longer chain stay and I just love how Rockies pedal
I'm pretty sure that's the one he ended up with.
@@HeyBaumeister yep
I got an Altitude A30 and put all Shimano XR drivetrain and brakes and a 200 dropper
Mongoose Boot'R! Walmart with a Bikeshop price!
I absolutely loved the Ripmo V2 that I rented in Sedona back in October. Thing was a pedaling machine out there. Hardly felt the 90 deg heat. I'm thinking about getting the Ripmp AF frame and building it up!
I have been riding the V2 for almost a year now and I absolutely love it. It's a complete bargain with the SLX build too.
Over the Edge!! Great shop and amazing riding. Rented the same one on my trip in 2019 from PA.
Love my slayer (27.5) and honestly it pedals great. Highly recommend it.
I demo’ed a 29” Slayer and immediately ordered a 27.5” C90 in red. I fully expected it to pedal like a pig and was pleasantly surprised. At the park it’s a monster...
I have a hunch you're going to choose the Ripmo! I ride the V1 and absolutely love it!
A close second might be the Rocky Mountain.
Yessss it’s that time of the year again!!!
Indeed
Have you thought about the new forbidden dreadnought?
I dunno if its available yet
@@mojaverc1585 I think only the frame is available so far. It would be cool to see a bike build though.
@@mojaverc1585 you seem to like arrmas. So do I. I have a few Traxxas trucks though because I don't have the money for a big arrma
I definitely think the Wreckoning would suit your style of riding the best! Hoping you get that one or the Chilcotin. Cheers man! great video!
I have an Evil Following V3 with an 11.6 coil on the back. It’s the craziest, best bike I’ve ever ridden. Based on what you’ve said in previous videos you should definitely consider that V3 Wreckoning. The super short chainstays combined with the DELTA linkage make for a super fun and snappy good time. Especially for right and twisty north shore jank
Its pretty wild to see all differences between manufacturers and the rear shock locations and linkages and triangles! I want them all 🤣🤣🤣
Great video 🤘
Definitely go for the ibis ripmo, I have one and out of every bike I have ever owned, it has outperformed a every bike I have ever ridden
I personally think that the Evil Wreckoning is the clear choice here, that along with the Nomad, and the Sight. Delta is amazing as are the shorter chainstays. I owned a sight for this past season before switching to a Yeti-SB150 and can't say enough good things about it. It's also worth noting that you can throw a 170mm fork and install a longer stroke shock 55-57.5 on the sight if you were to desire more travel.
The slayer is now available with 180mm of front travel on both 27.5 and 29 bikes. Still 170 in the back though. It is also 200mm dual crown compatible.
That nomad!!! If the oxblood color looks good on camera I can only imagine what it’s like in real life
I would go for the knolly im On my second one and absolutely loving the suspension setup is amazing and the service at knolly is incredible
same
V3 Wreckoning, my favorite one, Knolly chilcoltin, second favorite, and Rocky Mountain Altitude, third favorite.
Owned a nomad v4 then upgraded everything then eventually the frame to an evil insurgent. The evil is amazing. Best bike
I bought the Sight A3 in December and love the bike! I only had a couple chances to ride here in north Idaho (actually at Beacon Hill in Spokane) but the slack headtube angle and 29" wheels already saved my bacon over some sketchy parts of some trails. Very smooth and the build you were looking at would be awesome! I am an intermediate rider and only about a year of singletrack on a fatty hardtail but I am a fan of the Norco. It climbs pretty well. too.
I haven't gone inside a dealer for over a year now; I'd love to just test ride any full-suspension bike since I've never ridden one on a trail
I would vote for the Wreckoning. I have a Following MB and an Offering. The older model you looked at, same color with X01 and 160 Lyrik. I've also recently had an Ibis HD4 to compared to. Evil's rear suspension has an amazing feel and all of their bikes have built in fun factor. I grew up on BMX too and love the playful feel! The stuff you ride warrants the big version, but the Offering is also very capable with a 160 fork and punches above it's weight. Good luck with whatever you go with!
Your going with the Santa Cruz, I can see it in your eyes.
I was thinking of buying an Enduro and a DH bike by the end of 2021, but I think I will just lose my mind and go for the Wreckoning only. It's so cool. Look at that frame!!
That knolly is something else
I want it so bad.
the colour of the santa cruz looks amazing
I rode a Evil Wreckoning since three years now. Its a amazing bike ! I just buy the Specialized enduro 2121 for the next season. But I think Its Time for you to bleed black !
I'd definitely buy the knolly, I have one and I love it!!!!
I have an Offering V2 with the Push 11-6 coil. It's amazing! I'm waiting for the ACS-3 coil conversion for my Fox 36 fork. Air suspension is lighter , but can't effectively compete with a coil spring!
go for either one of the evil's. they're soo sick!!!!
Choices, choices, all good ones! At least your LBS has all of those bikes available! I have a V1 Ripmo, and love it. I lengthened the fork to 170mm, put a negative 1.5 degree angle headset in, it rocks! I live in Asheville, NC. Works great for my local trails and bike parks. If I were to choose one of those in your video, it would either be the Knolly Chilcotin, or the Santa Cruz Nomad. Probably the Nomad, with a Cascade Components LT link, and Fox 38 with a 180mm air spring. It would rip!!
Got an Offering this past summer and I loooooove it!
I just got a sight c1 and I’m super happy with it!
I think we all saw your new bike on Loam Ranger's video yesterday, unless that was a demo ;) Part of me would also think, throw a good coil shock and Fox 38 or Zeb at the Enduro and it will be outperforming most of this list. Of what is on that list, I think the Altitude would probably suit what Nick rides the most, the bit more nimble handling vs the freeride bikes helps on North Shore stuff, but still has the travel to take the big hits. I own a Ripmo myself, it's a great bike, but I think it would be a little undergunned on the North Shore, the DVO suspension is absolutely amazing though.
I think we can all agree the evil is the sweetest looking bike
I think the Santa Cruz looks way better IMO
@@Don-Michael welp cant do anything :)
#notall
@@chrisra82 #almostall
Disagree the knolly is sexy. Never liked the look of evil. Just Bc it has crazy looking suspension doesn’t make it attractive imo
Don't know if you know this about the '21 DHX2 VanCan but it is very easy to make stroke adjustments. Takes about 5 minutes, all you have to do is take the spring off. No tearing the damper apart.
I didn't know that!
I really don't love how the rear end of those Evil bikes look! I'm like you in that looks are bigger deal than they should be. That includes build and paint. Those altitudes are beautiful. Though, a carbon "build-my-ride" Sight is way up there too. Looking forward to your next video!
That matte black is just amazing
Wrecker for sure
Im on an older model wreckoning n it still shreds better than every other bike i try
Hey man, what about the Santa Cruz Hightower 2021?? Have u seen it?
Wow, bikes that are available? And good ones as well. Happy picking.
They’re higher end. Anything over $6k has at least some stock. Anything under that, you’re waiting til summer 2022
Call me Sherlock - but was I the only one that saw the Norco Sight around the 20:30-21:00 mark mounted up with Nobl wheels. VanCan is sponsored by Nobl. Just saying 😜
Wasn’t that a old vid?
th-cam.com/video/EKnHGCjQ3Hg/w-d-xo.html or just looks similar just the nobl wheels ofc
Also, it had a wrap in it
Shout out to Kinetic Cycles.
Such a friendly shop. Really glad you give them some shine :)
They’re the best!
Awesome Video, i almost choose a Evil or a Ripmo too. But in the end I ended up with a nice Deviate Highlander because in my opinion this is the best All Mountain Bike you can get right now. Nice Fox Suspension Front and Rear now and AXS Drivetrain :)
What about the Giant Reign Advanced Pro 1?
I just got a Kona process dl and i love it has amazing breaks and suspension
That Evil looks sweet.. The Knolley raw aluminum reminds me of my GT RTS2 in ball burnished.
i have an evil insurgent and its amazing anyone who has tried it has loved it!
I didn't. Not even that good compared to other single pivots.
Got my name on the list at my LBS for a V3 Wreckoning to match my V3 Following (which I LOVE)
Nomad! But in Adder green color and with coil shock ;)
nice video man! I've been debating an evil wreckoning. however living in the Scottish highlands i do a fair bit of peddling. you had a look at the new spesh SJ evo? cascade components have even made a linkage for it to bump it to 160mm rear. might be worth a look dude.
I was sold on that 🔥🔥 Blue Norco Sight. Sick!
Late to the party. Thanks for the great reviews. What you said about the Knolly's suspension feel... I completely agree. Even my smaller Endorphin feels like a smaller version of my DH rigs perfectly damped suspension. Its so controlled and confidence inspiring. Not sure how much the coil out back contributes to that feel. Only one small issue with Knolly bikes... The frames are a bit hefty - but the ride, well its second to none. Thanks again. Oh, and on a completely separate note, Santa Cruz should offer that Oxblood red color on every model.
I’ll take the Nomad everyday of the week !!!
i’d look at a scott ransom; absolutely love mine and it can run 27.5” or 29” inch wheels
Get the Rocky!!! I‘ve ho the C50 myself and I friggin love it
I mean the altitude, but the slayer is good as well I guess
Definitly the wreckoning or maybe a liteville 301 or 601 for an oddball
I think it's funny that Melamed, on his Altitude, had the geo tweaked to basically mimic the Slayer he had been riding before.
For your style of riding, you really wanna go with the Wrecker !
the Evil Wreckoning would be really cool... or maybe the Ibis
Just ordered a yt capra but i am still watching bike vids
The matte black Wreckoning is def. the best looking bike, IMHO. Just need to replace the "Zeb" decal with a black one.
I personally would love to see you on the wreckoning or the Norco
get the knolly!!!! love my carbon Warden so much living in Vancouver.
I would get the evil wreckoning. It looks cool and seems to be a more playful bike by what everyone says. I like a more playful bike
I have a Following with a 140 fork up front and it is a pleasure to ride
It's going to be one of the Canadian brands, probably that altitude
i think so too , but would love to see the evil
Check out Loam Ranger's video from yesterday, it might be a demo, but maybe not.
@@mrvwbug4423 I saw that and that's what led me to believe that it was what he got, he also seems to really like the fast ones more but as he said maybe he's changing idk
The Wreckoning to me feels like it'll fit you the best, even if you haven't ridden it yet.
🤞for wreckoning or nomad
I rented the Rockey Mountain altitude carbon 50. It was probably the greatest bike I have ever riden.
Already know what new bike I want to get, just waiting to pay off my current new bike to free up some credit… Got a 2020 Trek Remedy and Trek Roscoe. Next bike Zerode Katipo gearbox bike.
I bet you bought the last one probably. I would either go with the Evil Reckoning or Santa Cruz Nomad
My choice would be the Nomad because that paint job is awesome and it’s 27.5 which is my thing
Go with the Evil, best bike I've ever owned. I buy and sell after every year like you. I've had my Evil for 3 years now. I just can't part with it.
You should try out the nukeproof giga, a commencal meta am 29 would also be a really good option.
What about a Yeti, have you tried the SB150? I am really happy with mine🤙🏼
I would love to see you get the new forbidden dreadnought
Just got a Slash. Wouldn’t mind any of those bikes too. Not an easy decision.
Have you tried a Commencal Meta AM? Pretty good value and a good bike in general (a tad heavy).
The bikes I think you got in order Evil V3, ivis, Norco. I would go with the Ivis or Evil V3
Would love to see your take on the Revel rail, damn. - They are kind of hard to get ahold of in your neck of the woods?
I'm surprised you didn't add the Trek Slash to your watch list. It's an all-mountain machine that's definitely park ready.
What about the Nukeproof Mega or even the Giga? Hard to get but seems to be amazing. I am waiting for my yellow frameset
If i lived where you do, I’d definitely have the altitude or slayer. Unfortunately i don’t and the offering is my dream bike.
That Nomad on Kermit Green for the win
You should get the Santa Cruz