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it’s a shame he never fully reviewed it. this album deserves a lot of love
This album made me rethink everything about the BTS boys and kpop in general, it's so, soooo good
@@joshua3543as an old fan (not a stan) their discography has always been very inconsistent. There has been good stuff over the years. But they've been held back by the corpos in their label following different trends, and I suspect that even though some of the members (mainly the rappers) have always been involved in production, I suspect that theyve always been held back by having to keep up with all of the choreography practice and other bs that constituted their main priorities. I dont think its a coincidence that some of the most consistent and high quality projects (including this, J Hope's Jack In the Box, and V's Layover) have released not only after they gained experience and more freedom, but also at a time when they no longer have to practice choreography and go on tours all the time
The problem with BTS is that their sugary sweet pop songs are the only ones that make US charts. So that's what people think they are. Their catalogue is huge and diverse.
not a problem with bts but with the general american public. bts never claimed to make only english fun pop songs. one of their most known songs on the korean music market is a ballad honoring the memory of the victims of the sewol ferry tragedy.
The problem is the USA industry, they are the ones in charged to stop korean music to became most known just because they are korean
@@Lina-qn5hj I mean most people are going to know the songs that are widely promoted. Not the audiences' fault too.
@@dianahi2663 Isn't that why BTS made those songs though? It's not like they took the indie artist route or anything. They wanted those mainstream hits and that's why they made them.
@apryl21 the comment above yours explains "widely promoted" isn't really the case - it's just that the american industry have sidelined and downplayed the success of bts korean singles and only (mildly) accepted the english ones. (which still get next to zero radio and platform support compared to western artists) and actually getting no. 1 on bb100 wasn't the goal bts had in mind when they made dynamite, they were even hesitant, if you can believe that. all they wanted to do was try something new that will be a way of escapism from the pandemic that everyone could find joy in. and apparently people loved it.
This whole album is for music lovers. The more you listen to it, the more you will like it. The production of this album is NUTS.
Pun intended
A feast for music lovers for real
LITERALLY my inner music nerd has never been happier
We see what you did there :D
Neriig ni haraad gaihlaashdee ahahahah
Lmao... the way people don't want to admit that RM is a musical genius is crazy! I love that he's finally getting people to at least listen to him and let the music speak for itself.
Right... they sit there with their fingers in their ears going "no! I don't want to hear it! I can't admit it!"
He's reviewed a few projects before as BTS and solo projects. He really liked Jack in the Box but didn't really like the others.
@@tonzyjc To be honest I've disagreed with most of Anthony's takes that I've heard (not just about BTS) so I don't tend to pay attention to him. But I can't forget when he reviewed an entire BTS album without reading the lyrics and said he "doesn't really care about lyrics anyway." I don't understand the point of critics at all if I'm honest... wouldn't you just engage with all kinds of art, see how it makes you feel, and stick with what moves you? Why do you need someone to tell you what to think? But clearly there's an audience for that.
I suppose the potential positive of him reviewing it is simply exposing the album to a wider range of people... having said that, the question is will his audience be able to make up their own minds about what they're hearing, or will they be swayed by their favourite critic and his positive/negative opinion? I don't know his audience well enough to know how seriously they take him.
I'm also conflicted about which medium I want BTS' music to be exposed to people via. Watching the reactions to them over the years, the level of prejudice and deep cynicism which seems to cloud a lot of people's view is quite depressing. Seeing people strain themselves in their determination to dislike it from the get-go, faces going stiff the moment they hear a non-english lyric, a sneer setting in even as the first note sounds, the disdain they feel for any moment of softness or sweetness or unguarded earnestness... I don't really want those people anywhere near BTS.
Even if an album like RPWP might appeal to that audience because of its 'coolness' and 'edginess'... I don't feel like they really deserve it, if that makes sense. If you've been actively denigrating RM and BTS for the past 10 years (not just ignoring them), and then the moment they make music coded as 'artistic' in a way your ego can accept, suddenly you love it... then you are one of those thoughtless bastards he's talking about in Groin!!! I can already see them building narratives about how they 'discovered' RM (as if ARMY haven't been shouting from the rooftops for a decade) and how they want to 'rescue' him from his entire image and career thus far. Missing the message in his music entirely.
Speaking as someone who is generally into 'serious' and 'artsy' and 'experimental' music who's also a big fan of BTS, I feel like the best way to approach them is to come in with genuine curiosity, good intentions, and a sense of fun. Explore a little (don't stick with the singles), then if you're feeling the vibe you'll be moved to organically take your own journey down the rabbit hole. If you don't feel it, then it's not for you and that's fine. In my experience it's the kind of music that grows and grows, it curls its tendrils into you and pulls the cynicism out unexpectedly. It benefits from a highly invested audience who care enough to pick up on all the internal references and the depth of authenticity in the delivery. I don't think it benefits from being packaged up and put on the firing range for a skeptical, ranking-obsessed audience to have a 'smash or pass' response, while nervously glancing at their fellow 'critical' bros to decide whether it's acceptable to like it or not. That whole shallow attitude is sort of fundamentally incompatible with the point BTS is making with their art.
@@shockofthenew its almost like not everyone has the same opinion. its okay. this is why people dont like kpop fans, its not a bad thing to have an opinion
@@dasanii2467 Opinions are 100% fine. I know people who dislike the music who I get on with perfectly well, because they listened sincerely and it just wasn't for them. I'm talking about people who come into it with a strong prejudice from the outset, determined to hate, and who let their ego get in the way of actually listening.
I looked it up the lyrics are actually very good I can tell he is kind of mad
The thing is that people want too much from him. He's just a musician but they want him to speak up about political issues and stuff aswell. Btw u should check out his solo album Indigo and Mono! They're different than this album but they're great!
@@boraz_zilation Don’t forget his first album “RM” which I personally think is the best where he is full of anger, frustration and aggression to “prove himself” because he was in the underground hiphop scene before bts same with suga and when people found out he join in a kpop group people said “he sold his soul” to be in bts and that he can no longer rap and the coworkers he rapped together before looked down on him because he is kpop now so if look at his songs and the lyrics it was full of anger. One of his songs that have a music video for the RM mixtape is “awakening” and “do you” and “joke” but it doesn’t have english subtitles so you should just use youtube and search “RM awakening english subtitle” etc
@@boraz_zilation don’t forget his first album “RM”
RM of BTS. He really went all out with this album it's insane!!!!
This album is by RM leader of BTS. Usually seen as very calm and peaceful, but he hides alot of aggression due to ppl expecting too much of him and BTS and often abusing/bullying them unnecessarily.
He used to be an underground rapper before BTS, so this is him as a solo artist going back to his roots kinda.
And yes, he's a Lyrical genius, composer, producer...he takes part in complete musical preparation.
He has himself written almost all of BTS's discography, even other members' solo songs too. He has been making music since he was 13.
He was an underground rapper before joining BTS and his first mixtape called RM is also good!
i fuuucking love that mixtape it raised me fr
"do you" was me and my best friend's favorite song in 6th grade😭 now we're graduated omg the memories
I love "Monster"
The best thing about being a BTS fan is that you never know what you're gonna get. Each member has a very distinct color and artistry. But you have to be willing to enjoy a wide range of music styles, cause they're not afraid to try new things.
Also, seeing their artistic evolution as a fan is delightful. They keep growing and growing, they are ambitious and they take their craft seriously. From music to lyricism, performance and concept. Each one has a thing going on for them.
Seeing RM and the rest of the members come from angsty teens criticizing the system to this level of artistry is amazing. And the best is yet to come.
well said, friend! Been a fan since 2016, it's been lovely seeing their evolution. The best is indeed yet to come! What a time to be alive
I absolutely agree with this I have been Army since 2013 and you Definitely don't expect what their music or videos will be or sound it's absolutely incredible tho there all geniuses.
thats for every kpop group
BTS is like a breath of fresh air tbh
Not really @@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq
Surprised he never ended up making a full review, i was looking forward to it
I just really want to applaud your chat for not being toxic and being open to listening to something they may have had a preconceived notion about. BTS as group and their solo works as well are often met with instant criticism and xenophobia because of the “boy band” and “Korean” and “kpop” labels they get funneled into, but if people would be open minded they would be pleasantly surprised - especially at the lyrics. So thanks to your chat for listening and being open. And even for those that didn’t like it - they were not mean and critical about it. Very refreshing. You have good followers. 💜
Fantano community is not toxic, they are mostly music lovers, they like music or not, no matter where it's come from. Most of them doesn't like BTS music ( which I Can relate I don't either ), they don't really Hook with Agust-D album and they can be bitter but that is also part of the game when you review music.That is not necessary hate or Xénophobia, they are bitter toward American artist too 🤣 That didn't stopped them to love J-Hope album Jack In The Box, even if yeah it was the first BTS work they loved so they were very surprised. Again I Can relate, same for me 😅 and now this (Good ) album by RM, so really it's not about being a BTS member, being Korean, it's just about music. Like it should be.
@@Zarlor97422 and that is exactly what I mean - that is how it should be. I think most Armys (BTS Fans) understand that they are not for everyone - heck I was a metalhead prior to randomly clicking one of the videos and it was the lyrics that got me. But I see a lot of other reactors and creator comments putting their culture or popularity or what they perceive as non-masculine Kpop FIRST without even trying to listen or understand or break down the music or lyrics. So Y’all were seriously very refreshing in that not one person took it to that level. It’s ok to not like them - but do it respectfully without being a*holes lol - I subbed to the channel on the reactions and respect of the chat and creator, to this video 💜
@@louloubumper8179 From my point of view ARMYs also should learn to not provoc fight when they are Somewhere. Because I can assure you they have allready fought with Fantano's community and a bunch of Armys have categorized Fantano and his community as BTS haters with the arguments you gave, because they couldn't support critics.
Like same in AOTY which if you don't Know it's a site with music lovers who review and rate albums. They have their biased of course, they are not professionals but there are interesting and relevant reviews. And if you want to have a window on what GP really think about a song /album it's a pretty good place. Because for me at least, the popularity of a song doesn't mean everyone loved the song. The all World is not crazy about Baby Shark. There are a lot of possibilies. As just for me for example I have allready stream songs I don't like, Sometimes I Really don't like at ALL ! By curiosity to understand a hype, because of the algorithm and I'm busy my device is not next to me so I wait for the next song ( At some point I had to block some artits Spotify was pushing too much for this reason, because once a Time ok I give you your stream but I have my limits) because if my children, because I love dance and a choreo is cool, if I Really can't stand the song I mute and play something else. And there are people who consume easy music, like those who go to KFC, it's catchy, fun, light, your brain is off, it's basicly supermaket music but it doesn't mean they think it's the song of the year. So this website offer a better picture of how music lovers have receive a songs an album. That is the point of view that interest me the most.
And unfortunatly, it became almost impossible to have an objective view on BTS members Album there because ARMYs have start a war with them too.
This is why I made this comment, you are thankfull to his community but when music lovers are involved, we absolutely don't Care about nationality, ce Care only about music, thé problem is never music lovers, the problem is Always armys.
I just come back from a video where a music lover did a review oh Hope On The Street feat J-Cole and hé was so disapointed because he said J-Hope verses was not interesting he got back lash hé was like if I can't bé honest on my feelings and opinion I will just stop reviewing J-Hope because I'm hère for music and not to fight with J-Hope fans. I don't understood what happened J-Hope fans are usualy pretty cool...
So that it, I wanted to explain to you why I reacted to your comment. Maybe you didn't get it all because you didn't have the historic between Fantano, his community and armys.
I’m with LouLou here. Wonderful to see this happening and will be great to see it more often.
@@ThisRoscoe a Roscoe in the wild lol 😂
The BTS rap line is elite. If this is your first encounter, get ready for a wonderful deep dive.
He does know BTS. He rated 3 or 4 of their albums I think. Evaluted Suga's album and Ho-Seok album too. It's his first review of a RM album.
He didn't really liked BTS's and Agust-D album. LOVED Ho-Seok album.
As for me I got curious about BTS and specifly the rapline After I Heard Jack In The Box by J-Hope. this album is INSANE and like I said had a excellent review from Fantano, Arson is even in his playlist (every year he does a playlist of his favorite song of the year). RM also stand out, his flow and voice are so good, his texts are top notch, like Ho-Seok he doesn't hesitate to take risk and go out from his conort zone, he is creative and his work is artsitic too. Not like music they do for BTS, in BTS they write for their audience in their solo work they write for themself. I don't like BTS music much but Ho-Seok and RM's solos 🔥🔥🔥
But for now as for Suga, for me he is behind Ho-Seok and RM. Fantano did review his album and called it, I quote ''plastic''. I have to say I'm pretty agree with that, he has some good tracks but his albums but I found it pretty boring to listen to them in a row. I have listen to 3 of them and translate the lyrics and it took me 1 year. Still I had never put so much effort on listening an artist that the music didn't catch me much. And I have to confess I did it for Ho-Seok Because they both are in BTS and Really Ho-Seok was the Artist I discovered last years I didn't knew I was waiting for this man is so so so impressive ! So I put extra effort on his banf mate for him ...
I was a bit disapointed by Suga considering the level or Ho-Seok and RM. I Hope he will get inspired by them and he will catch them for his next album. That said I'm Happy I could discover Snooze. It's a excellent track..
@@Zarlor97422 most of agust D/Suga's work is largely autobiographical in nature so it's not as accessible to a hip hop ear. It's heavily stylized and if it helps is a means to an end. With Suga the Music and production are only a small part of a larger universe that spans across three of his albums, MV and lore (like an MCU) it's littered with repetitive motifs, lyrics and say things like using autotune across his work to represent the voices in his head, his two selves etc. That said you don't HAVE to know all this to like or dislike the music (and even after that it may still not be your taste) but even the 'plastic' over produced sound... I understand how it would put people off ( but like I said there's a reason). With RM and Hoseok, most of their albums are strongly conceptual... Jitb and Neuron blow my mind as does Indigo and RPWP and even in the flows and experimentation, there's a structure and a melody that we're used to... Each member's work serves a different purpose. Suga - a kpop producer himself experiments while staying in a kpop adjacent sound, Hoseok reminds me of old school hip hop (80s 90s), RM is strong with experimental rap these days (have you heard Sexy Nukim?) RPWP is a creative project directed San Yawn from the experimental rap collective Balming Tiger. BTS rapline aren't afraid to push limits with genre bending and cause discomfort and as fans we can't wait to see how they evolve.
@@Rxpinn Thanks for the precisions but I allready know all of that. Suga is a rapper, rappers are story teller and there songs are based on their live, their thought, their expériences, that is just normal. All rappers, all Hip Hop listeners know that.
That interesting that you talk about Suga/Agust-D personas because it's one of the things I didn't understand Witt his artsitic choices, hé didn't used it, Ho-Seok did, Jack In The Box is about the duality between Ho-Seok and J-Hope and it's a asset to have persona in rap, not all rappers have Persona, the list is very short, and that open artistic opportunity and it's even on the criterias to evaluate a tier rapper. So it's not a détail. Still unlike what you are telling me and unlike what I've Heard from his work Agust-D didn't use Suga, didn't play with his persona that would have been interesting. And he confirmed it himself during his album promotion in his show with RM, he said hé regretted hé didn't used Suga. When I Heard that I was like, you Can ! Having a persona, even personas with Yoon-Gi and not using it in rap game it's such a waste. Not all the Time if course, Eminem don't use Slim shaddy for all his work, but at least give us something crunchy ! A good duality ! RM it's a bit différents, he doesn't used persona but he show a widest range, multiples faces of one piece. So interesting. When I say I found Suga's album boring it's because he use pretty much Always the same colors, liké hé was stuck on his confort zone, I found. Him better during featuring. Because his features brings something refreshing for the ears. As for the autotune things, yeah, I think he has to stop that ! I mean autotune is Ok, is an artistic choice, for artistic effect but it is to dose ! My perception is that Suga over use auto-tune to cover his undevelopped voice, his lacks of colors. Compare to Ho-Seok for sure, he has less colors but even compare to RM, who also have an undevelopped singing voice but that doesn't stop him to be versatile in his flow, Suga too but Yep he uses less range than RM. And still he shows a great potential, he is a good story teller, a good lyricist, his production are good, I like his attitude but for me he works too much with his head, it's too calculated, too homogeneous, too average, I mean maybe if I discovered rap with him I would like it more but for me he doesn't Really stand out. Not saying his work is Bad, no, I like some of his songs, Snooze is my favorite, he shows that hé has a very beautiful âne interesting voice even if his singing voice is not developped, I prefer BTS's rappers singing voice over vocalist anyway, except maybe Jin who has a beautiful vibrato but he lacks a bit of techniques. So I'm not expecting Suga to sing high notes by at least to broke his bareers. It's the feeling I have with Agust-D, I don't Know if I'm gonna be able to make you understand it but for me he is still Suga, the BTS rapper even on his solo work, when Ho-Seok and RM give me more ''break it all'' Vibe, more authentic music, more artistic, more aesthetic Of course 3 of them are authentic in their Lyrics but for me there's something missing of Agust-D work. Like if even solo he is still compromising and Writing for armys. I have listen to BTS's songs, not my cup of tea, but I Can see and hear the differences between BTS J-Hope and J-Hope as solo, same for RM but Suga is pretty much the same. Not a reproach After all the most important are
-1 He loves his work
-2 He has fans who love his work.
My opinion won't change that but I think he could do better, be a bit more crazy, take more risks and give us Real Agust-D vibes and not Agust-D Aka Suga BTS'' s rapper Vibe. But wathever he will do I' ll respect him of course.
@@Zarlor97422Agust D albums are top tier 🔥 musically and lyrically
@@Zarlor97422 hey I respect that :) we each have our own faves. I know what you mean about playing with personas as hoseok did or as Em does. With Yoongi, if you know Suga is for BTS work (has a different style and flow), prod. SUGA is his commercial stuff and Agust d started as an alter ego for raw stuff so arguably all the solo work that has agust d in them. So the interplay in personas is across all the work. There's no interplay or conflict btn the personas (like Em does a lot) in the actual songs/album except maybe in the Interlude: Shadow. And the MVs that tie it together. I think he sort of did it through the vcrs in the tour (ps I loved the live band arrangements and I saw it live) I don't think he views the personas exactly as other selves or sides (like Jay and J-hope so stylistically different even visually... With agust d it is basically an outlet that had a name I guess... Interesting for me to think about.
I also understand what you mean in terms of a purist sound that Hoseok and RM have in my mind it's rock versus experimental prog rock with a bit of NF 😅 (when I heard the Last and Amygdala it reminded me of Therapy session 😅) ik a lot of hip hop heads won't agree with his stylistic choices and that's fine... I could write a whole essay on the auto tune alone. You are right about the fact that he writes centering his personal journey or army... So it's more about Catharsis or relatability (even though not so intentional).
I am not trying to convince you and I get what you're saying ... I'm Army (love the rapline) but have grown up around hip hop. I just loved the chat. Thank you for putting across your points so coherently and respectfully. We all have different preferences. And I'm interested in seeing our boys and their musical journey evolve. We're well fed :) (
wow did not expect that lol let me check RM 👀
Have fun with it! Aside from writing a majority of BTS' songs and producing some, he has 4 albums out. Right Place Wrong Person is the latest one. Most similar to that would be his first mixtape RM (2015). His other two albums Indigo and Mono have quite a different vibe, slower and more thoughtful, but also very good. He started out as an underground rapper when he was literally 13 years old (he was like a schoolboy prodigy on the scene) so he's been working for a long time!
Some extra collab singles to check out:
Change with Wale
BukuBuku with MFBTY
Gajah with Gaeko
Timeless with Tiger JK
Sexy Nukim with Balming Tiger
Smoke Sprite with Soyoon
Don't Ever Say Love Me with Colde
@@shockofthenewHis song with Erykah Badu is also really good.
@@tonzyjc Yes I love 'Yun' absolutely one of my faves from him. Indigo is a gorgeous album!
Indigo, Mono, Right Place, Wrong Person albums
him and suga have some great solo songs
I'm sorry but the "British food ass beat" comment had me crying. I know they was hating but the comment was so original and creative that it was actually funny. 😂😂😂😂
FYI Joon slayed this album. This might be the most Namjoon album we've heard so far.
the “squidward on the beat” comment during domodachi 😭🤣
"Music that gives dogs anxiety" sent me💀💀💀
I'm listening to RM's new album Right Place, Wrong Person, and I'm just amazed by how much he poured into this album. The music is definitely not K-pop in the traditional sense, and it won't be for everyone, but I think that makes it even more special. Trying to pinpoint a genre in this is very difficult; it's really got a bit of everything. I'm going to go through some of my highlights upon first listen...
The album flows between songs incredibly smooth. I kept having to look at my phone to see when a song had changed.
Nuts: He really just wrote a horny song with great lyrics...and looove the fact that the lyrics refer to both a woman and a man in parallel stanzas.
out of love: He tries to take back the power from the media and fans who expect moral perfection from idols: "Smoking kills, I know / It's my fuckin business you bitches stop don't talk shit." I understand people who disapprove of smoking, but regardless, he's really pushing back against the perfect idol image.
Domodachi: Just an incredible song with a great beat, rap flow, and feature. Little Simz absolutely killed it.
Groin: This line "Not a fuckin' diplomat" just hits hard knowing how they are serving their government in the military after facing so much national pressure to be Korea's representatives.
And I love how Around the world in a day and Come back to me just take their time to sink into the music, the emotions, the instrumentals. There was no attempt to make a commercially palatable 2:45 song.
This whole project shows how the solo albums have allowed the BTS members to find their style and rediscover their passion for music, and I love to see it.
Not kpop in the traditional sense? It is NOT KPOP! It isn’t even pop! 🫠
BTS has never really been "KPop in the traditional sense"
I think is just experimental jazz/rap that's what i would call it
as someone who grew up on alternative, i can safely say that this is genuinely one of the greatest albums i've heard. namjoon was truly born to be an indie artist, but forced to be the biggest superstar...
He wasn’t forced to be anything. He’s doing exactly what he wants. He had multiple opportunities to leave BTS but always chose to stay. Don’t take away his agency by saying he’a forced. He literally convinced his mother to let him be a musician by telling her he would be the biggest rapper in South Korea. He auditioned for multiple labels before signing with BigHit. He chose his life and is living it how he wants.
@@WhalienDNA girl please grow your front lobe before replying to comments that are clearly not meant to be taken that deeply. joon had multiple opportunities to leave bts and pursue a solo career instead, but he didn't, correct, that doesn't mean he knew he would've been part of the biggest band in the world. u can clearly tell by the way he chose to perform in front of a 200 people crowd, and the indie feel his solo music has, that it's what he likes to do at heart. nowhere did i say he doesn't like being in bts, or that he regrets it. i'm not taking away or discrediting him when i say he was "forced" to be the biggest superstar, if u knew how to read the room you'd know that it's just a saying, and that i'm aware of the skillset and capacity he's equipped with to handle the pedestal he's been put on. and to correct u, he didn't technically choose this life, signing up for a label doesn't equate to signing up to be a global superstar. grow up
@@melikeyildirim7 words matter. You said what you said, and it’s inaccurate. Not everyone knows that, and there are tons of stereotypes about the korean music industry. Your careless comment feeds into those and gives a false picture of namjoon, bighit, BTS, etc. You need to be more thoughtful. Also “indie” has an actual meaning, and it’s not a mood or genre. Your defensiveness says everything about you and your inability to reflect on your mistakes. It’s not just about your intent. It’s also about the impact.
For those here now just discovering indie/alternative rock RM I suggest his collabs
- Sexy Nukim
- Smoke Sprite
- Don’t ever say love me
Trust me when I say this RM has been begging to come out in full force for some time now
💯
Don't forget 'Gajah' w/Gaeko (who was just featured on Hobi's new record)! Total anthem 🤘💜
'Sexy Nukim' is Balming Tiger, whose main producer/creative director San Yawn produced RM's record (and is listed as the creative director for the 'Lost' video. Also Balming Tiger is the shit, I will be forever grateful to RM for introducing them to me 💜
@@tylerpurrden omg yes!
@@tylerpurrden I’m forever grateful for the entire Team RM who motivated him to explore himself and these genres more now that he had more time to focus on his solo music/identity.
He won the people over in the chat! The music speaks for itself 🙌🏻
Expected more positive reactions from the music critique crowd after _Indigo_ but didn't expect the level up in engagement.
Just checked it and it's SOO GOOD
Even checked the lyrics 10/10
You really be handing those 10 to anything ?
@@vamoacalmarno3868 ever heard of a something called a opinion?
For me the Album is a 8 to 8.5/10 even with me being a Fan.
I just have 15 Albums i gave a 10 and i listen to a shit ton of music.
@@vamoacalmarno3868you're under every comment being bitter get a grip.
@@reveluvcakes 2 comments my man, 2 commenta
@@vamoacalmarno3868 2 too many
This album is top tier! Crazy good! Namjoon is an incredible musician!
I'm not surprised that the chat was surprised. I mean, it's RM and he is heavily underrated. It's lovely they gave him an honest chance.
Also remember regardless of what you think of his skills, he is also rapping and singing IN HIS SECOND LANGUAGE (plus bonus Japanese chorus on 'Dodomachi') 🤯 Now you respect his skills, right? Also he spits nothing but fire in Korean. They always try to include subtitles in their vids (plus ARMYs are amazing at providing lyric videos and meaning breakdowns) 💜
That Bj wnjn doing the chorus in Domodashi. But RM can rap well in all 3 languages.
@@jessicapierce3027 oh yes it definitely is, Wnjn's voice is iconic!
the whole album was quite a treat yall
i was more or less expecting a more alternative sound based on the songs he had a feat on before releasing the album, yet i still got surprised how raw he went.
Same! I was expecting him to go more experimental after Indigo, but was still not prepared for this. Can't stop listening to this album.
When I heard the bts members are going solo, I thought they're gonna release more pop songs. Like kpop pop. Dynamite typa pop. I didn't expect this. Same for the 'Arson' guy. Can't believe these guys are in the same kpop group...
If you think that Dynamite is typical kpop, it means you don't actually listen to kpop :) Kpop isn't really a genre, it's an industry that encompasses all kinds of music. The only thing that gets pushed in the US is mainstream pop in mostly-English because that's what their American partners think will work the best. Dynamite is an actual outlier in BTS's discography, considering the members did not contribute to the song at all.
One thing to remember is that BTS was built around its rappers, because the first vision for them was a hip hop group ; the rappers have always heavily contributed to their songs, especially when it comes to lyrics (RM was, from day one, the group's primary lyricist). Their first two years (2013-2014) they still had that heavy hip hop influence, both in sound and image. Their sound has gradually changed to include more varied things, but it didn't shed the hip hop influence completely, it was just not as present in the music they promoted ; if you took the time to listen to their albums though, there were still songs that leaned into it.
Also, everyone in the group already had solo songs out by the time the group hiatus started, both on their albums and as side projects they didn't promote (the rappers had full on projects out already : RM's "RM" and "mono.", SUGA's "Agust D" and "D-2", J-Hope's "Hope World", and the vocalists had a few songs on their Soundcloud as well). The second disc of their anthology album "Proof" has solo and subunit songs that each member selected to represent themselves and their individual music identity, and I think it gave a pretty good idea of the direction they wanted to go (except J-Hope because he had like, no song out yet that could hint at how dark Jack In The Box was going to be).
RM is really Good Artist
Enjoyed all the songs on the album
He is not just the idol, he is a real artist.
he has own voice and is not swayed by trends. he produces his own world.
Same for SUGA and Hobi (Hobs is more of an all-rounder imo)
@@SOI-wl2lo I'm talking about RM
@@SOI-wl2lo RM is better artist fr
Ive been an army of yrs and even we were surprised by how alternative RM decided to go. He was very honest and candid in his lyrics. More than ever. Its not a sound i would have sought out myself. The more music you listen to the better youll be at hearing music. It may not be my cup of tea fully but i can feel that this album wasnt made for clubs and chart topping or even radio spins. The album is meant to be played top to bottom. Trust me the transitions are so well done, if you arent looking then you wont know when the songs change. Its meant to be a body of work where the listener is gonna feel disonant, awkward, uncomfortable, and feel essentially out of place, hence the title right place wrong person. The instrumentals and production did excellent in bringing that concept out. RM said that right place wrong person was able to interchange to wrong place right person, that the project was meant to take you on a roller coaster sonically. You are meant to question why something was placed there in the track and if it truly belonged? Is it right or wrong? And that will change from person to person to. Its an album that makes you think. And for that, not just bc im army but bc im a music listener, i think the project matched the concept very well. Thank you for reading up to here 🙏 and i hope yall can go listen to the album top to bottom. Its only around 34 minutes all together. And make your own judgments. Theres plenty of lyric translations out now and some of the lyrics are english as well.
Well said. Sonically this album isn’t something I usually gravitate towards. At my first listen I was so confused. It was playing tricks with my brain. I thought the song would go a certain way and then it tried to break my ankles. And YAS! I caught myself checking the track countless times to see if the song changed. The transition from song to song was so smooth, and yet the switches within songs were so drastic.
I must say tho…after a few listens (top to bottom), and watching the video of RM sharing this album with Jimin and explaining the meaning behind it…really shows the struggles of Kim Namjoon (RM), shows the musical genius of this young man, and also breaks my heart about what goes on in his head and in his heart.
As he says in groin, he’s just a regular 29 year old put on a pedestal, asked to make political statements and such.
Hoping more of the general public will give these young men a chance and see them for the artists they are and not peg them as a kpoppy boyband that sing about their highschool crushes 💜
total opposite from me. ive been an army since 2015 and this is exactly what i wanted from him… i really liked mono and and indigo but every time i thought i wanted the freak in him to come out. AND IM GLAD rpwp is out to finally fill that hunger.
Hope he does a full album review, RM deserves it.
Kim Namjoon or RM is finally home with this one. Welcome back RUNCH RANDA!!
totally agree
The monster came back out to play!
Yeah.. enough being wise and attitude
@@tingkywingky2705 ???
Listen to his lyrics. This is not rap mon. This is RUNCH RANDA.
I hope do review it this album is the best to come out of Korea the past decade
you need to listen free the beast, the anecdote, private pink, 오늘 밤 당산나무 아래서, money vs. love: dream 😂
@@sra7989 I'm talking about mainstream kpop acts rm is pushing the popular music spectrum in each release it's really good on the long term people after 10 years will be like wow this rm was really ahead of his time
Crumbling?
@@stephenoxf good but not an album
@@wmproduction9472 As a Korean, your words do not sound very complimentary given how low the quality of Korea's mainstream music market is. Moreover, RM's new album does not receive overwhelming reviews, even if it is limited to the mainstream😅
The “he’s a better sublime than sublime” is actually a crazy compliment.. like wow
This is a perfect example of if people just gave some artists a chance they could find something they love
The sound is some experimental jazz rap but because he's Korean, the white media is gonna put it under kpop 🙄. Make it make sense and definitely not the audience that would enjoy it.
Exactly. Even the really positive reviews are still calling it 'pop' or 'kpop' and it's like.... where?? If he was a western artist there's absolutely no way they'd be pigeonholing him that way, this is alternative hip hop.
@@shockofthenewkpop it's not just Pop music that's why this album is Kpop too
K Pop is popular music in general it can be rap, rock, pop, R&B, jazz among other genres
@irvingbaez6984 but when western media say kpop they mean idol music. if they wanted to give them and range they may add Krock or krap to the description.
@@irvingbaez6984 The kpop label is complicated in the way it specifically refers to the idol system (kpop ≠ all popular music in Korea). I was going to write a whole essay here but it's not worth it.
I think the definition is shifting over time anyway, as boundaries are broken, norms are shifting, and there is more cross-pollination of fans between 'idol' and 'non-idol' musicians.
RM is right at the heart of these shifts as the leader of BTS. He started as an underground rapper, then signed with a label and came up through the kpop system as part of BTS. However BTS went against quite a few idol norms since their inception, and have been taking steps to further deconstruct the concept over time. They've written a lot about conflicted feelings on their status as 'kpop idols' over the years... I'd say their conclusion is that ultimately they don't care how people define them, they're just going to concentrate on making music. But it's still frustrating as a fan when that label gets used against them in a limiting way.
@@jessicapierce3027 Well in this case I was talking about Rolling Stone calling RPWP a 'pop' album, which just doesn't make sense genre-wise no matter how you look at it. I feel they wouldn't do that if RM was from the US and released this album. It goes further than just press coverage too, for example when the BTS rappers release straightforward hip hop albums they're still given the 'kpop' label on spotify and excluded from 'hip hop' listings. Or the fact that American award shows have now created 'kpop' categories so they can ring-fence artists from a particular background no matter their genre and keep them out of the main categories (same with 'latin' and 'urban' categories).
RM is lowkey doing some irreparable damage with this album though, idk how BTS is gonna sound once they're back but the expectations skyrocketed after RPWP, and i don't even mean genre wise, i mean the creative side of it. Sure, they've been creative before but they're yet to release an album where every track is incredible, i've always thought BTS is yet to release their magnum opus
ive been a fan since 2013 and ive known the rappers in the group are talented RMs solo work in particular has so much potential im so happy with this record i knew he had this in him. im just really disappointed they dont want to be more experimental with the groups music and go back to a pop typical formula after releasing their fantastic solo work it feels underwhelming. im just hoping when they finally release a record together again after their military service is over we'll get more of this side of them in it, i can see all seven members in one of these tracks itd be amazing
@@MidnightEkaki the quality of their music has always been there and it's enjoyable to this day, but i too wish they'll break out of the pop formula. i'm wary of saying this because i can't imagine just how much pressure BTS must feel, but because i love them so much i wanna see them reach their full potential. and for that to happen i think time is crucial. RM took a year to make RPWP but BTS as a group used to drop an average of two albums every year + hectic schedule of touring, content creation, photoshoots and a bunch of other stuff. they also had to get their music approved by the label and producers, even work with people which in my opinion they didn't want to but /had to/.
so to me, they're above the necessity of all of that. they're not your average kpop group that need to constantly drop music to stay relevant. i wish they'll just chill after their military enlistment and really have time to make an incredible body of work.
Well mine was during jack in the box and now rpwp. That's why I kinda thought hope on the street was a downgrade from jitb. Jk's snty was a masterpiece!! Expectations are rising but we really have nothing to worry about. Now I just need to hear something equivalent to stay alive from yoongi
@@nehasweet8019 j-hope's "MORE" blew me away, that was a crazy way to start chapter 2! We've got some of the greatest highlights, I can also point out Jimin's "Like Crazy" and "Set Me Free pt 2", Yoongi's solo tour was incredible, Taehyung's "Slow Dancing" is one of my favorite songs of all time... Many great stuff.
I feel like Yoongi will definitely make songs for a film one day, just like the late Ryuichi Sakamoto who he admired so much
yeah i have a feeling when they come back it’s gonna be pretty generic unfortunately, apart from a few bangers like run bts, black swan their releases were a bit underwhelming. but we’ll see, hoping for the best 😮💨
"A philosopher who raps" .
Rapmon for a reason.
One of my favourite albums this year.
Literally, exceeded all my expectations in the best way possible
Some of the chats def a hater 😅 saying the song is shit even when it's not a minute into the song like damn
They’re always like that. A bunch of wannabe fantano teen/early 20s obnoxious boys.
RM won most of them over real quick.
average fantano chat they're only there to have their own bias filled by him
They do this with everyone. That's just how his chat is lol. Check out the chat during Beyoncé or Billie Elish reactions too lol. Both great albums btw.
so experimental, the switch ups are gold
RM has really emraced the "Korean soul" in both sounds and astethic which is serving him well and shows his growth, super cool
ALL BANGERS IM SCREAMING
I just listened to the album after this and the production!!! Yge lyrics too. Heaven, nuts and domadachi are my top 3
No but the album is really good. The sequence of songs from the interlude to the end is really golden to me.
Godly album, deserves a review 👏
Damn RM, i wasn't aware of ur game. Kpop doesn’t even stand close to this.
@@ASSEMBLOTRONno they’re right
@@ASSEMBLOTRONmost kpop is soulless garbage, even if the idols are skilled
@@ASSEMBLOTRONbro, kpop sucks, and i’m saying it: the guy who likes it and listened to it for a decade. Besides BTS and a few others, Kpop is just copy/paste music with the same exact structure and meaningless lyrics without wordplay or depth. It’s only enjoyable if you stop thinking and just listen to it for how it sounds while watching the cool MV and choreographies.
@@jeremywinston1such a weird comment
@@jeremywinston1 weirdo
RM has been headed this direction for years. You should listen to some of his other solo music.
Listen to his albums RM and Mono, or some of his collab singles with various artists like Buckbucku, Sexy Nukim, Don't Ever Say Love Me or Smoke Sprite.
BTS is not what people think....
He's listened to other projects as BTS and solo before...I can't recall if he listened to Indigo, but he's familiar with their work. I think he only liked Jack in the box... until now.
@@tonzyjc Yeah true. He gave LY: Tear a moderately positive review (6/10) and everything after that was 4 or 5, and generally negative. Except for JITB.
Yo Domodachi is weirrrrrrd. I love how unexpected of a journey it was. I'll definitely have to sit with it.
People love to limit Namjoon to just "leader", "main rapper", "guy who can speak English with 148IQ", and time and time again, he has shown us that he is way above and beyond! He doesn't have to boast about his talents in interviews. Joon's work, behaviour, and overall achievements and lifestyle speak for itself. That's true talent and art!
Unfortunately they do that because I honestly don't think most BTS fans are appreciative of alternative music or of hard rapping. You can tell from which BTS songs (other than title tracks) have the most streams, exactly what the tastes of the fandom are.
gotta love witnessing people finally understanding why BTS is such a huge thing! I'll never get tired of it. Welcome everyone, you have a lot of exploring and eye-opening to do haha
"how did a dude from BTS make the aoty?" PREACH!. RpWp is truly album of the year. If it doesn't win a grammy its bs
His album is simply good... I was not expecting that. Fire instrumentals and fire vocals combination DAMN 🔥🔥
Big UK vibes from the album. Only listened once so far but really love 4 tracks so much and there’s no track I didn’t like
this album is crazy good
I would definitely love a review never knew mr.rm is a hot shit like that
This album is fire 🔥 RM hits hard in this album, the sonic landscape, depth and raw emotion blows me away
i am very amused by he person complaining you can't play domotachi in a club. love that's not what this song was made for (although im going to an all bts club soon, ill let you know if they play it)
I can't imagine domodachi suddenly playing in a club lmaooo
Yeah, whoosh that intention of the song went way over his head haha. In what world did someone think it was meant to be club music? At least he later admitted he needed to relisten to the song after hearing the other tracks.
But you can play first track in a club for sure,just right knda club
When i heard first track i immediately thought of 3 am at a techno party in 2019 in Kyiv
Maybe it's because I used to go out to a bunch of underground house parties/burning man parties in San Francisco but to me Domodachi felt like something I could totally hear out dancing...but I guess those are specific situations.
Alternative Rock/Pop Album Of The Year!
Really enjoyed the album
This boy went crazy on this album
Very good album actually
First one was fucking hard
I hope he will review the whole album
This album is on my repeast now
The album really good you have to listen to in order the transition are FIRE
Bro needs to listen to nuts groin and lost
He listens to nuts in this video lol
Its nice to see an idol being able to have creative freedom
I liked his last album, _Indigo,_ but _RPWP_ just fires on all cylinders for me. In some ways, _Indigo_ felt like he was introducing himself into these new styles of music, while _RPWP_ feels like he was right at home with this direction.
As a fan, I both want BTS and their solo music to make another comeback. It'll be interesting to see how their solo ventures shape their grp music and how they grow individually with their solo stuff.
RM is doing so many experiments with his music and he keeps succeeding.
I imagined him out of all members to do. he has got that creativity and hardworking mind
i just hope he wont make generic music for pop audiance
This album would be the strongest contender for aoty at the Grammys if only he were American 🥴 i lowkey still have faith though that the Academy will nominate it at least in a rap category but for that to happen people need to hype this album, i hope Fantano reviews it and more people can get into it
THIS ALBUM IS AMAZING WTF
Damn RM cooked
"y'all sleepin on BTS as soloists is all im sayin"
No, besides namjoon and then maybe jhope, everything else is just trash
@@Lalamendez201 uhm Suga aka Agust D deserves attention too at least
@@matvejkap as long as people do not associate him with the others, it is fine. He loves to copy other mbrs blatantly and loves money the most but plays to be anti capitalist haha. Very disingenuous. People can discuss that guy, but in the kpop rap only category ;).
@@matvejkap oh and suga gets plenty of attention by the bts fandom and kpop fans bc he is the typical kpop rapper and according to them he looks cute and is white as snow. Kpoppers love pale skin. they try to promote him hard anytime anyone else gets any type of attention. Plastic like autotune doesn’t need attention from people who actually like music.
@@Lalamendez201 ok.
if he doesn't drop the full review mannnn...
Guys listen to the album Right place Wrong person from RM !! It's a good album !
thanks for reacting! chat was super chill, too. would def enjoy a full review. much love
Didn't expect Fantano to react to this album 😮 I personally really liked it
from what i've listened from bts, their solo stuff is way better than their group stuff. just listened to the full album and it's amazing. i hope RM continues with this route of more creative music; would love to see more korean instrumentals infused with R&B. i would prefer him just going full korean language instead of using english but maybe it's to widen his market? also, i can't tell if people are joking in the comments about him "stealing" from tyler the creator? i can see N.E.R.D. inspiration but that's never been "stealing" lmfao.
this slaps damn
God i love the entire record. I hope it gets the deserved flowers
I really hope more people take the time to listen to the BTS members music past their title tracks. People love them for a reason! They do a lot of different genres and experiment with sounds more than people think. Their solo releases this/last year have been incredible and made me appreciate them even more as artists. Love my Bangtan boys!! 💜
rm's discography is insane
i’m 25 and just starting to understand who the guys are of BTS solely from their solo works and it’s way better than the group stuff in my opinion. RM and V honestly do so much to make their sound personally and i adore it ❤
have you listened to rm’s mono? that album is seriously a work of art
@@NishantSarkar not yet! i’ve listened to V and Jungkook more closely but i will absolutely look this up!
@@noi_iscool yeah you absolutely should!! the whole album is about living with depression so its definitely a different vibe to his other solo work - but it’s easily my favourite album of all time (which is HUGE for me haha)
This album is delicious
So obsessed w this album its insanely good 🥹
These slap hard! Please consider doing the whole album
Love to see locals being surprised of BTS and BTS' members artistry lol. The problem is that Radio just sometimes play the pop songs (and they are not bad) but still that makes everyone think that's all they can do lmao
They go crazy and their lyrics are always fire
Y'all should definitely check them out. As soloist they are really different and BTS' discography is huge and diverse
There're 7 members: 4 Vocalists (Jungkook, V, Jimin and Jin) and 3 Rappers (RM, J-Hope and Suga/Agust D)
rpwp is gonna win a lot of folks over with this one. GROIN is my fave track so far.
Rap Monster is back. he got angry and created a masterpiece🔥💜
The album is actually really good, I like the versatility of it and the lyrics hit good too tbh
RPWP, this album is incredible!!❤
I absolutely love all of Namjoon's (RM) work.
Yooo Im waiting for this, did he react to the full album already??
i dont think so if he does he'll post it on his main channel with the other reviews
Wait till feeling “Don’t ever say love me”… Seeing and hearing that before and after. Life changing
This is everything and so much more I expected from RM. I’ve been listening to Kpop for 8 years now, stopped listening to BTS for roughly like 2-3 years now. I don’t seek out their music to be honest, if I come across it I’ll listen to it and half of the time it’s really good. It’s so nice to see them be able to let loose, not be so constricted by the world of Kpop. RM as always had that dawg in him 😂 I’m glad people who aren’t even Kpop fans are recognising it.
Along with the cosmic giftedness of RM, Balming Tiger is instrumental to the sound, and vibe of this album. I think I'm about to lose BT as my favorite little indie group lol
Korea has been slaying and the west is largely sleeping. Check out SoYoon, Glen Check, Cifika, Milena, anything older you can find with Sukhoon Chang (Byung Un), Colde, Hoody, Christ theres so many.
And Now I have so many BTS group and solo song recommendations for you. Their catalogue is beyond belief. I'm almost jealous of the people just now discovering this universe.
RM IS THE BEST!!! HIS ALBUM IS A MASTERPIECE!!
BTS is not any normal kpop grp u all know, dont judge on few pop songs they their bsides n solo stuffs r top notch. Check out indigo, DDay, Hope on the street, Jack in the box, layover, face, golden..esch album gives different vibe.
Yeah Bts writes almost all their songs and one of their member always produce “suga/ agust d” and on the contrary to what people think their lyrics is very deep (RM fun fact has an IQ of 148) so many lyrics have double meaning there is a reason they are so big
Do not compare rm to the other 6 kpop guys. Thank you
@@Lalamendez201 Namjoon won't appreciate ur view. All 7 r brothers and are equally talented some r lyricist, producers,vocalist,dancers..they r a perfect team. If u are loner don't wish namjoon to be like u. Thank u 🙏
@@Lalamendez201don't be ignorant. All 7 of them are unique artists who have been influencing each other mentally and emotionally for the past 13 years. Longer than you have known them. 13 years is a long ass time, lasting more then 50 percent of marriages.
@@ralphy383 you are the one who should stop being ignorant and group the manufactured boys with rm. ok, they can be friends but army always love to share rm’s talents with the other generic ones who by the way are always copying him too. Btw, fantano already review suga’s album and said it was plastic generic autotune like. Stop bringing the others bc you turn people who actually enjoy music beyond kpop away from rm.
This album is soo good!!
why this record kinda good
People including BTS fans sleep on rm heavy!! If you haven’t already give his past album indigo a listen :) rm is definitely i lyricist even if you don’t like the beat or flow
why not
loveeeee the album. i feel lovers of music would really enjoy it
'might' review it, he didnt did he 😭 he never does a review for the member's solo albums even though they're some of the best stuff from the group and he says he likes them.
ikr😭 i was genuinely hoping for a review so bad, that album deserves much more credit
Not sure if jack in the box was reviewed or not
@@nehasweet8019 it was mentioned in a YUNO review, but never got an official review nor an official score. also, he doesn't do that series anymore, so it's unlikely we'll see one for RPWP
The whole album is a vibe, he should check it out.
namjoon and every member of bts is more talented then a lot of people think. bts is not a traditional boy band at all. they are musicians at heart and if you’ve only heard one or two of their peppy english songs (which they only released to cheer up people’s moods during covid)… you don’t know them at all.
Its so so good