The first few times I played Ocarina of Time, I lingered in the Fire Temple because I thought the chanting was gorgeous. It's a shame that it had to be removed.
***** I can still lament the loss, can't I? And to be fair, I don't recall ever reading anything about Muslims being offended--just that it was removed after NoA realized that Islam has laws against using sacred music in works of entertainment.
+Fleece Manjenkins Of course I do. I plan on keeping it until the day I die, and then I'll pass it on to my daughter, who is turning out to be a gamer like me and her bio dad. :) And for whoever still insists it was Muslims' fault that the track was removed, I'll repeat this one last time: For a long time, Nintendo of America forbade religious content in US game releases. The track was removed because it contained religious content--Muslims did not protest it. Gregorian chant probably could have been used in its place, but it wasn't, because it was a religious content issue rather than a religious group protesting the use of their prayers/music in a game issue.
Soaring from the lava away Soaring from the lava away Soaring from the lava away Soaring from the lava away Soaring from the lava away VOLVAAAAAGIAAAAAAAA..
My world history teacher gave me his copy of Ocarina of Time as an award for a quiz game of everything my class learned up until summer vacation hits. Bless him for giving what's essentially a rare copy of the game to me, though I do feel bad for him if he was aware of the changes.
I got the gold edition from the first shipment of copies as a hand me down, weird to think how a quarter of my childhood resides in a small plastic box.
Cool fact: the original version (this one) in gerudo when ur going to the wall and there u go to spirit temple ok.. on the back in some Posters you can see the turkish flag bit in the remastered version it is censored...
I always imagined that the chanting was coming from Ganon's followers somewhere deep in the temple, and every time it peaked (at 3:10 for instance) it meant another Goron was just sacrificed to Volvagia. Needless to say it made going through this temple a lot more stressful.
RighBread the fire temple has a vibe more of the godly side of the fire element rather than the infernal . Look at the totem poles smiling and blowing fire and listen to the chanting; it feels like a place channeling a sacred force.
Bro what if you hear them chanting then all of a sudden the music stopped and chanting stopped For a good 5 slow seconds Then all you hear is high piched sceaming and stabbing sound effects as the color of the lighting Goes from yellow to a dim red And you hear a deep dark voice Whisper "Good evening"
@Tim Hacker "Listen to this ominous chanting while watching these carved stone faces belch deadly flames in your direction and tell me you ain't thinkin' of Goron Jesus."
Honestly the music is the best aspect of ocarina of Time in my opinion they just couldn't top it with any other game. Each temple has its own vibe The Forest Temple is probably my favorite, it's eerie yet serene That's true creativity I think breath of the wild lacked quite a bit
Very interesting, the vocal snippets are small portions of recitation of Islamic prayer (they probably just sampled some stock audio clips) Sound Designers probably didn't think too much into it - definitely adds a unique tone and uneasiness to the level. Funny story, wayyyy back when I played this, my mom was the one who pointed out that it sounded like Arabic.
They should have probably checked "hey this sounds like a language what does it translate to and what is it used for?". I don't know whey they completely nuked the chanting from the second version, they could have just replaced it with a different chant (that wasn't in any language)
Nintendo was using what's basically a sound library when they did the music to add to the sound front they used for StarFox64. They came across the chants and used it, not knowing that they were Islamic. They made changes as soon as they could, with the Gerudo symbol being changed as early as Majoras Mask
@@thekingtoastamo5808 as a muslim i would aprove for no changes, it's amazing and my favourite game! I've played a good share of games in my days and OOT & MM to me have been by far the most spiritualy transformative experiences i've been through with games.
@@mr.mikaeel6264 Bro, even if It doesnt offend u, It should never be used for something like this, they could have just used some meanless voices instead
When the Mirror Shield had a cooler symbol When the Fire Temple sounded atmospheric and in some ways scary When the well mini dungeon had blood on the floor Before the cartridge went gold
Actually, don't mean to be nitpicky, but the censorship happened after the cartridges went grey. All golden OOT carts were made with the versions that were uncensored. The only way you could have a censored version in a gold cart is if somebody physically opened up both a gold uncensored cart and a grey censored cart and swapped the boards.
I found a fairly comprehensive analysis from the "Save Data" TH-cam channel: th-cam.com/video/DEAoR_GS540/w-d-xo.html "It turns out the chanting Kondo sampled was an Arabic chant of a Muslim phrase, and while multiple different sources cite the phrase as saying something different, generally they all agree that the repetition used in the music is similar to someone citing the Qur'an. And most of the translations involve translations like 'Allah is great.' or 'There is no God but Allah.' Either way, you can very clearly hear the vocalist say 'Allah.'"
Oot and MM should be the standard mold for all future Zelda games, no matter how old these games get you can't replace the quality and effort they had.
Growing up with the game, I had the version that this was taken out of it. But I was lucky enough to actually play a version (without knowing at first) that had this in it. I remember how excited I was when I first heard this song playing (and people who were watching me play were so confused why I was so psyched about music) when I was in the fire temple. Because I was so used to the version without it. I actually remember spending more time in the fire temple because of this version.
Imagine actually going to a forgotten and hidden temple only to hear some loud ass chants... I will die dreaming for an Ocarina of Time remade and re-imagined version with modern graphics and the entire map revamped and massively re-scaled to epic proportions
I'm so happy I own the 1.0 Japanese versions. Not just because it represents the very first moments the game came out in the entire world, but also because of all these things that were removed from later versions. This song. Red blood. Crescent moon symbols. And much more. Also: Bottom of the well and Shadow temple. Bloody, macabre places you can only truly experience in the non censored versions. Best game ever by the way.
Honestly I have to wonder if anybody was actually complaining about the blood or if they just removed it from later versions as a proactive measure. Anyways, the fact that they remove the blood from the Shadow Temple floor is a damn shame. I just recently learned this but the lore behind the Shadow Temple is that the Sheikahs would take traitors and other enemies of the Royal family there to imprison and torture them for information. They would then kill them. With a location with that much darkness surrounding it, at least a little bit of blood is necessary. Also where did you end up finding your Japanese version? I lucked out and found one at a little roadside video game stand back in the early 2000s but from what I understand they are pretty rare
@@FIDEL_CASHFLOW_ They had to remove the blood to maintain the E for Everyone rating (meaning all ages) in the US (I suspect it was the same type of rating issue in other areas of the world as well). It’s a shame because the blood really adds a “WTF 😳” feature to the Shadow Temple and Bottom of the Well.
@@Tom-qo4mz We know that the temple was a place probably created by the Sheikah due to the Sheikah symbolism within the temple as well as the need for the Lens of Truth which is a Sheikah artifact. The Sheikah served the royal family and likely did most of their dirty work. There are some carvings in the shadow temple that say "Here is gathered Hyrule's bloody history of greed and hatred." That combined with the actual torture devices found within the temple paint a rather grim portait of the royal family. The game itself doesn't mention exactly who was taken into the temple or why, but people have come up with lore based on the context. There are videos you can watch that go into these ideas further, but some of the stuff isn't explicitly written out by the game.
1:20 in case you want to know why this got removed, they're basically chanting Islamic verse. It translates to "There is no god but Allah" Yet it's a beautiful version
LukaTheWolf ツ He is saying some words and sentences from the Quran book in a repeating style (Chanting) Lyrics: " by the name of the god There is no god but Allah" And some Sentences from the Quran book. This sound track was taken from an Old Pray. The full version of the soundtrack or the pray makes the person feels Satsfied! Becuase Quran book Contains God speech And lyrics Thats what i know About As a muslim.
If this version hadn't been taken out of the game I think it hands down could have gotten the hype that the Forest temple music gets for being creepy as hell if not more.
***** To me without the chant just sounds like I'm hanging out at some low-key gathering with someone banging on the drum...the chanting getting louder and softer gives it an ominous feeling like your going to wander into a room and see some demonic ritual going on or something.
Having a unique atmosphere is really important to getting that memorable quality to a dungeon. By the time Ocarina had come out in the UK, the chanting had been changed to the same synthetic sound used in the Shadow Temple. While this was alright, it made the two dungeons feel less special. The ominous shrieks and groans obviously suited the Shadow Temple more, too. Listening years later to the original chant for the first time, it was obvious that this was meant to complement the temple of fire's aesthetic. I only found out because I played a gamecube rerelease and was shocked to hear no vocals at all - which is exactly as you describe it, just low-key jangling on a tambourine without any depth or history.
To me without the chants they actually dumbed down the wind (kinda) sound during the song. In the newer one it's just not powerful that's why i prefer this version over the 1.01 or 1.1. whatever
Yeah same here. If I understand correctly, the chanting was actually sampled from an Islamic prayer track or something like that. Save Data made a video about this which is where I got that information from.
Nah, nothing to be understood, just sensitive gorons who can’t tell the difference between their own holy music and a generic chant sample from a $25 pack
Love this so much. I like how kid Link went into a cave, but adult Link goes into a formal temple. Really makes you feel like you're doing more important stuff.
To me, this sounds like a gathering of people (or Gorons, whatever you please) trying to expel ominous creatures (Dodongos) from their sacred place of worship, The Fire Temple.
I always imagined it being the imprisoned gorons praying for salvation from their impending fate before being sacrificed. Similarly, I always imagined the pipe part of the Forest Temple music being Saria playing her ocarina while trapped deep in the temple.
Fittingly enough, a "Fire Temple" is a place of worship in the ancient religion of Zarathustra, known today as Zoroastrianism. It's based on the teachings of an Iranian prophet, Zoroaster; the religion still survives today to an extent, but many Zoroastrians were forced out under Islamic rule in the Middle East.
@@HybridGib fun fact: the reason that muslims style their beard in a medium length with no moustache is to be the exact opposite of the zoroastrians with long hair and moustaches.
@@HybridGib *A LOT* of civilizations had fire temples and worshipped in them. Everyone keeps trying to bring this back to Arabic history. This game, along with the Japanese (who created Zelda) have *NOTHING* to do with Arabic history or culture. Chanting and these styles of beats (bongos and tambourines) are shared by MANY cultures around the world.
I remember this temple and the shadow temple always giving me the heebeejeebees when playing this at the age of 7. Makes a whole lotta sense knowing the chanting is actually real practice tradition, boy did people get away with a lot of things back then. Sure scared the crap out of me for a week just trying to figure out this temple
This was the fire temple song I was first exposed to. everything about it filled me with a sense of I am in a special place and I am not worthy of being here. This is an amazingly atmospheric song. shame it got edited.
They could've replaced the chant with someone else, its what made the temple so haunting and beautiful. Gave it a spiritual mystique but at the same time made it foreboding.
Probably didn’t have the time for it, as the game was already released, and they needed to make more cartridges, so they had to sacrifice the greatest part of the music for more production.
@@Noid I’d like to think if they could of they would’ve made it like the original. Seriously the Muslim chant made it seem like the spirits of the temple were praying which was cool.
Sadly my N64 was sold to help my grandma fix her roof after a bad hailstorm awhile back. But thank God for the emulators and them mostly being the original versions, otherwise if I got a new one or had to track down an original copy of OOT, I'd've missed out on the chanting. It gave such a great atmosphere that made you uneasy but also curious
I remember hearing this when I first entered the temple and my siblings and I got scared. We thought that it was whoever imprisoned the Gorons chanting this and that it meant we were running out of time to save them. My siblings also started chanting this but misheard what was being said so they chanted "the African millennium". LMAO!
@@brandono_s idk I loved majora mask but oot atmosphere was something else. When you collect the three spirit stones and go to the temple of time you can see how hyrule field is really cloudy instead of sunny.
I would frequently rent the game before i owned it. The rental store had multiple copies. I guess they had some newer and some original copies. I thought the game was possessed the first time i heard this version
Reading these comments makes me realize exactly why Nintendo had to remove the chanting.... these were supposed to be prayers of peace and everyone’s commenting on how scary they are. It’s a blow to an already stigmatized religious practice.
i personally find it to sound a bit unnerving, but i can totally see that its supposed to feel peaceful after reading what it means. too bad people just think its scary.
The unnerving part about the chants are not the chants themselves, but the context of the chants. From what I can tell through playing the game with the chants in, the gorgons are chanting while imprisoned in the fire temple waiting to be fed to volvagia. From what the Arabic may translate to, they are praying to their representation of god for help or are chanting that they only see their own representation of god as exalted. What makes it chilling with this context is that the gorgons are either really desperate or fearful of what is going to happen to them, or they are fearless and rebuke volvagia and gannondorf. What people saw at face value was a blow to the religious practice... the game being updated to not have chanting in the fire temple instead was the blow for the practice because the opportunity for people to (experience a clip of it was there in modern media and obviously has affected many), and also highlights our shortcomings as humanity to not look beyond face value and into context.
I've always imagined the chanting is the Gorons accepting their fate and praying for salvation, giving each other calls of comfort as they prepare to be sacrificed.
This is totally not me listening to this while going through the Fire Temple because my game's Fire Temple has the Shadow Temple music in it 😭 ... yeah... actually it is me...here ... listening to this to keep the traditional feeling alive while going through the Fire Temple 😂😂😂
I have this on while playing Ocarina of time on my 3DS and i am on the fire temple right now i purposely listened to this while doing the fire temple. i grew up with this version of the fire temple theme i have the the original gold 1.0 cartridge from when i was 6 years old back in 1998 i still have it to.
What's so bizarre is I feel like I remember the chanting, but when I go back and play the game it's not there. But I have the version of the cartridge that has the crescent moon Mirror Shield...
+The Kind Gamers ALL versions of ocarina of time on the N64 had the crescent moon mirror shield, it wasn't until GameCube they changed it. However, they changed the fire temple theme and the red blood to green blood in the version 1.2 cartridge of Ocarina of Time.
So, in the new version, they kept the same melody of this chant, but used that classic video game midi synth sound and added harmony? I think they pretty successfully kept the essence of the chant in a subtle way.
Seems fitting to me. This dungeon does take place deep in an active volcano after all, so it should sound chaotic and scary, but also calming at the same time.
If that super volcano ever explodes, this song would fit perfectly with the aftermath, lava and death everywhere, everying charred, dry and ash covered.
why is it a mix of scary and pretty? I dunno-- i only played ocarina of time with my mom when i was very young i don't remember anything about it.... I'm replaying it currently though!
This music was pretty awesome. Probably my favorite dungeon them from the original Ocarina of Time, and that's no small feat either since that game had some really good tunes.
Nah, they should just have left it, freedom! Can't just remove everything that may offend someone, or you'd have no game at all! Why do Muslims get the right not to be offended, even unintentionally, while other religions and atheists are deliberately mocked all of the time!
Ah, yes. I still have an original copy of the game that has this unaltered version of the song. Still has the star and crescent symbol too. Always going to be treasured to me.
If they will make a switch remake, they will never add this back because, in earlier copies, this version has religious chanting in a foreign language and Nintendo did and still has a policy to never mention real-life religions. Which is why isn't in later copies
I'll just come out and say it -- this is the superior version of the fire temple music. The kids who came after us think that the chanting is out of place but it wasn't. I never once thought that as a kid. In fact this music was an integral part of the original experience. I think the new music sounds like a lazy replacement- a copy-cat of the original music but using pre-existing sounds from the original game.
I like to imagine the Gorons are chanting and praying to the goddesses (Din specifically cuz I like the idea of Gorons favouring Din) or directly to Volvagia to spare them. And afterwords they're just thanking link or the goddesses for saving them. Am I f***** or do you agree?
What if i told you what there sayng? it is creepy and weird but they say "In the name of Allah, the most merciful and beneficial, In the name of Allah, the most merciful and beneficial, There is no God, but Allah." "God is good, Believe in Allah" "Allah, the almighty God" when i fund out i was scared outta my pants
Sound like the Bongo Drums in Fire Sanctuary of Zelda: Skyward Sword. Fire Sanctuary is the last dungeon of Skyward Sword after completing Ancient Cistern (Water Temple), and Sandship (Spirit Temple) in this game.
I think this is so pretty and I'm sad it had to be removed. I understand why and I respect that Nintendo didn't want to offend anyone with a prayer that's not supposed to have music in the background but it adds this sense of sacredness to the Fire Temple and it makes me wonder if Volvagia was ever actually evil or if it might have been plagued by something that made it rampage like Valoo in Wind Waker and the Gorons didn't understand what happened to their guardian deity and so the Goron Hero killed Volvagia
@@AmaraFerris yes I know. But I'm talking about the original intentions of using the piece for the music. I'm well aware of how it came into being and how it got changed. I'm a writer so story and background are something I always think about when it comes to books, movies, and games. He chose the song for a reason. Yeah he didn't know and like I said I respect that it was changed but still his intentions make me wonder about game lore that we don't know about
I had one of the carts with this version in it, and really this is always going to be my preferred version. also BTW the comments are a mess don't bother
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The first few times I played Ocarina of Time, I lingered in the Fire Temple because I thought the chanting was gorgeous. It's a shame that it had to be removed.
***** I understand and respect why it was, but it's still gorgeous.
***** I can still lament the loss, can't I?
And to be fair, I don't recall ever reading anything about Muslims being offended--just that it was removed after NoA realized that Islam has laws against using sacred music in works of entertainment.
***** Just because muslims get angry at everything doesnt mean world has to be made a duller place.
+ladycygnet Do you still have the cartridge?
+Fleece Manjenkins Of course I do. I plan on keeping it until the day I die, and then I'll pass it on to my daughter, who is turning out to be a gamer like me and her bio dad. :)
And for whoever still insists it was Muslims' fault that the track was removed, I'll repeat this one last time: For a long time, Nintendo of America forbade religious content in US game releases. The track was removed because it contained religious content--Muslims did not protest it. Gregorian chant probably could have been used in its place, but it wasn't, because it was a religious content issue rather than a religious group protesting the use of their prayers/music in a game issue.
The chanting sounds like they're actually calling for Volvagia, but they're trying to calm him.
Deemed As Demented, probably the best comment.
No joke that actually does sound like what you're saying
Soaring from the lava away
Soaring from the lava away
Soaring from the lava away
Soaring from the lava away
Soaring from the lava away
VOLVAAAAAGIAAAAAAAA..
They're trying to convert him to Islam* FTFY
@Bravoler Nice name for a Rayquaza.
My world history teacher gave me his copy of Ocarina of Time as an award for a quiz game of everything my class learned up until summer vacation hits.
Bless him for giving what's essentially a rare copy of the game to me, though I do feel bad for him if he was aware of the changes.
I also have a copy
I have a copy with all the original symbols, music, and blood
I got the gold edition from the first shipment of copies as a hand me down, weird to think how a quarter of my childhood resides in a small plastic box.
checked not long after this comment and it’s 1.1
Cool fact: the original version (this one) in gerudo when ur going to the wall and there u go to spirit temple ok.. on the back in some Posters you can see the turkish flag bit in the remastered version it is censored...
I always imagined that the chanting was coming from Ganon's followers somewhere deep in the temple, and every time it peaked (at 3:10 for instance) it meant another Goron was just sacrificed to Volvagia. Needless to say it made going through this temple a lot more stressful.
same here actually
RighBread the fire temple has a vibe more of the godly side of the fire element rather than the infernal . Look at the totem poles smiling and blowing fire and listen to the chanting; it feels like a place channeling a sacred force.
That’s actually terrifying, but it kinda gives the temple another layer of mystery/unsettling to it. I love that
Bro what if you hear them chanting then all of a sudden the music stopped and chanting stopped
For a good 5 slow seconds
Then all you hear is high piched sceaming and stabbing sound effects as the color of the lighting
Goes from yellow to a dim red
And you hear a deep dark voice
Whisper "Good evening"
@Tim Hacker "Listen to this ominous chanting while watching these carved stone faces belch deadly flames in your direction and tell me you ain't thinkin' of Goron Jesus."
After hearing all the music from the temples and dungeons, Link deserves the Triforce of Courage.
But bro this is not scary this is a muslim prayer😔
@@Axzay then why do muslims sound so scary when chanting
It’s just the context of the song and how it was used in this track
@@jimboanimations4041 it not scary😒
@@jimboanimations4041 i find it pretty relaxing imo even if kinda repetitive
I love how haunting the chanting is, but also how beautiful and enchanting it is.. in a weird unexplainable way
the chanting is deep fresh and about allah god in islam!
@@nibirbaishnabchannel2125 Its beautiful honestly. Really nice touch. As a muslim, I wish nintendo kept it. It was so fitting ☹
@@noahdoesmusic8970i hope to hear it on breath of the wild or at least a custom zelda dungeons
Honestly the music is the best aspect of ocarina of Time in my opinion they just couldn't top it with any other game. Each temple has its own vibe The Forest Temple is probably my favorite, it's eerie yet serene That's true creativity I think breath of the wild lacked quite a bit
Very interesting, the vocal snippets are small portions of recitation of Islamic prayer (they probably just sampled some stock audio clips)
Sound Designers probably didn't think too much into it - definitely adds a unique tone and uneasiness to the level.
Funny story, wayyyy back when I played this, my mom was the one who pointed out that it sounded like Arabic.
iam with you but adding god chanting is not a game audio!
They should have probably checked "hey this sounds like a language what does it translate to and what is it used for?". I don't know whey they completely nuked the chanting from the second version, they could have just replaced it with a different chant (that wasn't in any language)
Nintendo was using what's basically a sound library when they did the music to add to the sound front they used for StarFox64. They came across the chants and used it, not knowing that they were Islamic. They made changes as soon as they could, with the Gerudo symbol being changed as early as Majoras Mask
@@thekingtoastamo5808 as a muslim i would aprove for no changes, it's amazing and my favourite game! I've played a good share of games in my days and OOT & MM to me have been by far the most spiritualy transformative experiences i've been through with games.
@@mr.mikaeel6264 Bro, even if It doesnt offend u, It should never be used for something like this, they could have just used some meanless voices instead
When the Mirror Shield had a cooler symbol
When the Fire Temple sounded atmospheric and in some ways scary
When the well mini dungeon had blood on the floor
Before the cartridge went gold
I seem to remember hearing all of this and having the star and moon mirror shield, and I know my cart was gold o.o
...yo he knows to much
Actually, don't mean to be nitpicky, but the censorship happened after the cartridges went grey. All golden OOT carts were made with the versions that were uncensored. The only way you could have a censored version in a gold cart is if somebody physically opened up both a gold uncensored cart and a grey censored cart and swapped the boards.
I never knew a good cartridge existed lol, I have majoras mask gold tho, does anything change there? Luckily I have ocarina of time tho lol
---Mic Drop---
"بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ"
"In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful"
The "Basmala"
I found a fairly comprehensive analysis from the "Save Data" TH-cam channel:
th-cam.com/video/DEAoR_GS540/w-d-xo.html
"It turns out the chanting Kondo sampled was an Arabic chant of a Muslim phrase, and while multiple different sources cite the phrase as saying something different, generally they all agree that the repetition used in the music is similar to someone citing the Qur'an. And most of the translations involve translations like 'Allah is great.' or 'There is no God but Allah.' Either way, you can very clearly hear the vocalist say 'Allah.'"
Thank you for your insightful synopsis!
In many ways oot was the most mature zelda game.
in a few ways. a few.
Oot and MM should be the standard mold for all future Zelda games, no matter how old these games get you can't replace the quality and effort they had.
Viktor Lecter mm was in more
Ocean Dreams nah.I know this game is very good, but I really don’t want future Zelda games to be the same as this.
Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess wanna have a talk with you... Especially Majora's.
Growing up with the game, I had the version that this was taken out of it. But I was lucky enough to actually play a version (without knowing at first) that had this in it. I remember how excited I was when I first heard this song playing (and people who were watching me play were so confused why I was so psyched about music) when I was in the fire temple. Because I was so used to the version without it. I actually remember spending more time in the fire temple because of this version.
@Covenant Lazarus What's wrong with you man
Imagine actually going to a forgotten and hidden temple only to hear some loud ass chants...
I will die dreaming for an Ocarina of Time remade and re-imagined version with modern graphics and the entire map revamped and massively re-scaled to epic proportions
Despair was just saying this today
Twilight Princess though?
Jay D. I was meaning isn’t what despair asking for basically Twilight Princess?
The Flawed Gamer not exactly
Did you not know about Ocarina of Time 3D on the 3DS? There's a Majora's Mask 3D too
I am glad we can still listen to the chant version. Its beautiful.
Bro if you want to hear it so bad just play on either a 1.0 emulator or original 1.0 cartridge
@@ashtonwilaby or I could listen to it here.
@@ncrtrooper7153 ok but the way you worded your comment made it sound like this is the only way to hear it now.
@@ashtonwilaby 1 year later bro lmao
I'm so happy I own the 1.0 Japanese versions. Not just because it represents the very first moments the game came out in the entire world, but also because of all these things that were removed from later versions. This song. Red blood. Crescent moon symbols. And much more.
Also: Bottom of the well and Shadow temple. Bloody, macabre places you can only truly experience in the non censored versions. Best game ever by the way.
Honestly I have to wonder if anybody was actually complaining about the blood or if they just removed it from later versions as a proactive measure. Anyways, the fact that they remove the blood from the Shadow Temple floor is a damn shame. I just recently learned this but the lore behind the Shadow Temple is that the Sheikahs would take traitors and other enemies of the Royal family there to imprison and torture them for information. They would then kill them. With a location with that much darkness surrounding it, at least a little bit of blood is necessary.
Also where did you end up finding your Japanese version? I lucked out and found one at a little roadside video game stand back in the early 2000s but from what I understand they are pretty rare
@@FIDEL_CASHFLOW_ where did you find out about the lore?
@@Othillde Same here. And the crescent moons are still present in certain areas.
@@FIDEL_CASHFLOW_ They had to remove the blood to maintain the E for Everyone rating (meaning all ages) in the US (I suspect it was the same type of rating issue in other areas of the world as well). It’s a shame because the blood really adds a “WTF 😳” feature to the Shadow Temple and Bottom of the Well.
@@Tom-qo4mz We know that the temple was a place probably created by the Sheikah due to the Sheikah symbolism within the temple as well as the need for the Lens of Truth which is a Sheikah artifact. The Sheikah served the royal family and likely did most of their dirty work. There are some carvings in the shadow temple that say "Here is gathered Hyrule's bloody history of greed and hatred." That combined with the actual torture devices found within the temple paint a rather grim portait of the royal family. The game itself doesn't mention exactly who was taken into the temple or why, but people have come up with lore based on the context. There are videos you can watch that go into these ideas further, but some of the stuff isn't explicitly written out by the game.
1:20 in case you want to know why this got removed, they're basically chanting Islamic verse. It translates to "There is no god but Allah"
Yet it's a beautiful version
The chanting is so eerie, this is the kind of song that would make completing this temple as a kid impossible
its eerie because you don't speak arabic but if you do
you will feel like satsfied!
@@snacomods3355 if its speaking arabic, what is it saying in english??
LukaTheWolf ツ He is saying some words and sentences from the Quran book in a repeating style (Chanting)
Lyrics:
" by the name of the god
There is no god but Allah"
And some Sentences from the Quran book.
This sound track was taken from an Old Pray.
The full version of the soundtrack or the pray makes the person feels Satsfied! Becuase Quran book Contains God speech And lyrics
Thats what i know About
As a muslim.
@@snacomods3355 oh. but i wonder who is chanting in the fire temple 🤔
@@deletedaccount3187 dude it was in a mosque
If this version hadn't been taken out of the game I think it hands down could have gotten the hype that the Forest temple music gets for being creepy as hell if not more.
Really? To me it sounds creepier without the chant.
***** To me without the chant just sounds like I'm hanging out at some low-key gathering with someone banging on the drum...the chanting getting louder and softer gives it an ominous feeling like your going to wander into a room and see some demonic ritual going on or something.
+Kelsey834 I agree with you the chanting makes this temple so creepy.
Having a unique atmosphere is really important to getting that memorable quality to a dungeon. By the time Ocarina had come out in the UK, the chanting had been changed to the same synthetic sound used in the Shadow Temple. While this was alright, it made the two dungeons feel less special. The ominous shrieks and groans obviously suited the Shadow Temple more, too.
Listening years later to the original chant for the first time, it was obvious that this was meant to complement the temple of fire's aesthetic. I only found out because I played a gamecube rerelease and was shocked to hear no vocals at all - which is exactly as you describe it, just low-key jangling on a tambourine without any depth or history.
To me without the chants they actually dumbed down the wind (kinda) sound during the song. In the newer one it's just not powerful that's why i prefer this version over the 1.01 or 1.1. whatever
I completely get why this version was taken out, but I love how this version makes it sound like people are praying within the temple as you explore.
Yeah same here. If I understand correctly, the chanting was actually sampled from an Islamic prayer track or something like that. Save Data made a video about this which is where I got that information from.
Nah, nothing to be understood, just sensitive gorons who can’t tell the difference between their own holy music and a generic chant sample from a $25 pack
It’s reciting from the quran for Islamic prayer ,beautiful ❤️ isn’t it
@@Motivation-tk4fragreed. I'm not even muslim but I've always found the Islamic prayers beautiful and spiritual
@@Motivation-tk4frpowerful as well
Love this so much. I like how kid Link went into a cave, but adult Link goes into a formal temple. Really makes you feel like you're doing more important stuff.
To me, this sounds like a gathering of people (or Gorons, whatever you please) trying to expel ominous creatures (Dodongos) from their sacred place of worship, The Fire Temple.
I always imagined it being the imprisoned gorons praying for salvation from their impending fate before being sacrificed.
Similarly, I always imagined the pipe part of the Forest Temple music being Saria playing her ocarina while trapped deep in the temple.
Fittingly enough, a "Fire Temple" is a place of worship in the ancient religion of Zarathustra, known today as Zoroastrianism. It's based on the teachings of an Iranian prophet, Zoroaster; the religion still survives today to an extent, but many Zoroastrians were forced out under Islamic rule in the Middle East.
@@HybridGib fun fact: the reason that muslims style their beard in a medium length with no moustache is to be the exact opposite of the zoroastrians with long hair and moustaches.
@@Potacintvervs Interesting, makes sense, too!
@@HybridGib *A LOT* of civilizations had fire temples and worshipped in them. Everyone keeps trying to bring this back to Arabic history. This game, along with the Japanese (who created Zelda) have *NOTHING* to do with Arabic history or culture. Chanting and these styles of beats (bongos and tambourines) are shared by MANY cultures around the world.
I remember this temple and the shadow temple always giving me the heebeejeebees when playing this at the age of 7. Makes a whole lotta sense knowing the chanting is actually real practice tradition, boy did people get away with a lot of things back then. Sure scared the crap out of me for a week just trying to figure out this temple
The shadow temple music sounded like shit though. Those crappy bad midi noises. It’s the same stuff they replaced this with.
Unfortunately i wasn’t born in the 20th century and get to listen to this masterpiece,until I watched this video.
This was the fire temple song I was first exposed to. everything about it filled me with a sense of I am in a special place and I am not worthy of being here. This is an amazingly atmospheric song. shame it got edited.
The heavy wind blowing effect adds so many atmosphere to the song.
They could've replaced the chant with someone else, its what made the temple so haunting and beautiful. Gave it a spiritual mystique but at the same time made it foreboding.
Probably didn’t have the time for it, as the game was already released, and they needed to make more cartridges, so they had to sacrifice the greatest part of the music for more production.
@@Noid what about the 3ds remake?
@@mrfivegold The remake was from a different team, not developers of Nintendo. Even if it was, I’m sure they still wouldn’t bother.
@@Noid I’d like to think if they could of they would’ve made it like the original. Seriously the Muslim chant made it seem like the spirits of the temple were praying which was cool.
I don't even remember this as a kid, creepy as hell for video game music in a Zelda game of all things.
Not all versions have this music, it was removed in later versions of the game
Alxinho959 Yeah i'm aware of that, I played it on the original edition, just don't remember it.
+empire yeah it removed because it is an Islamic chant and was removed for religious purposes
+empire i remember hearing it i just never really thought much of it
Zelda games usually have an area with a creepy atmosphere
This version sounds beautiful.
I’m playing the “censored” version of OoT rn and using this gem of a video as an overlay going thru the fire temple. Thank you for this upload king.
Sadly my N64 was sold to help my grandma fix her roof after a bad hailstorm awhile back. But thank God for the emulators and them mostly being the original versions, otherwise if I got a new one or had to track down an original copy of OOT, I'd've missed out on the chanting. It gave such a great atmosphere that made you uneasy but also curious
don't worry god will help you!
Who else had flashbacks of 98 playing this on your Nintendo 64 and being terrified to play this temple
Those were the days
i didn't even knew about it a long time ago
This is what my school sounds like during finals week, everyone praying to pass
I love how long this video is, So I can actually play this dungeon on the 3ds while I experience the original song.
YOU ARE A GENIUS
THANK YOU
Lmao genius
Not even gonna lie, as a kid, this chanting was creeeeeepy lol
I had nightmares lmaooo
@@victor.elkins lmfao gottem
You like it
OmegaRedFan I love cuddling men
Using this for meditation
I remember hearing this when I first entered the temple and my siblings and I got scared. We thought that it was whoever imprisoned the Gorons chanting this and that it meant we were running out of time to save them. My siblings also started chanting this but misheard what was being said so they chanted "the African millennium". LMAO!
Listened to this in a sauna.
Very trippy experience...
Ocarina of Time’s atmosphere is unrivalled
Majora’s Mask?
@@brandono_s Twilight Princess had some thicc atmosphere as well. Especially the soundtrack.
@@brandono_s idk I loved majora mask but oot atmosphere was something else. When you collect the three spirit stones and go to the temple of time you can see how hyrule field is really cloudy instead of sunny.
I actually had the chanting version. It was ingrained into my mind after first hearing it as a kid.
Remembering those days trying to find those damn Gorons. Always thought I was missing one.
I would frequently rent the game before i owned it. The rental store had multiple copies. I guess they had some newer and some original copies. I thought the game was possessed the first time i heard this version
i need a vr version of this. the game gives me enough feels as it is imagine virtual reality of this!!
It sounds like how I would imagine it to sound if you were on some kind of elevator down to hell and you just hear the chanting on your way down 🤷🏼♂️
My favorite temple. The music and vibe was just on point. Plus you got to rock a red tunic 🤟🏽
Mine too.
Reading these comments makes me realize exactly why Nintendo had to remove the chanting.... these were supposed to be prayers of peace and everyone’s commenting on how scary they are. It’s a blow to an already stigmatized religious practice.
i personally find it to sound a bit unnerving, but i can totally see that its supposed to feel peaceful after reading what it means. too bad people just think its scary.
The unnerving part about the chants are not the chants themselves, but the context of the chants. From what I can tell through playing the game with the chants in, the gorgons are chanting while imprisoned in the fire temple waiting to be fed to volvagia. From what the Arabic may translate to, they are praying to their representation of god for help or are chanting that they only see their own representation of god as exalted. What makes it chilling with this context is that the gorgons are either really desperate or fearful of what is going to happen to them, or they are fearless and rebuke volvagia and gannondorf. What people saw at face value was a blow to the religious practice... the game being updated to not have chanting in the fire temple instead was the blow for the practice because the opportunity for people to (experience a clip of it was there in modern media and obviously has affected many), and also highlights our shortcomings as humanity to not look beyond face value and into context.
I've always imagined the chanting is the Gorons accepting their fate and praying for salvation, giving each other calls of comfort as they prepare to be sacrificed.
I understand why they changed this, but I'm still so grateful that i got to grow up with the original ocarina of time game
It kinda sucks that over here in PAL land we got ver1.2 on release so there wasn’t this music, or the Mirror shield and blood. Oh well.
One of my favourite temple/song.
Wait I remember hearing the chanting in my version, so I have either version 1.0 or 1.1?
You have version 1.0! I have the same version! (:
MedicalRainbow Awesome!
It could be 1.1 as well. I have a 1.1 with chants. Any gold cart is 1.0, but there are some grey ones too.
Check your cartridge. Two numbers and nothing else is 1.0. Two numbers and an A is 1.1. Numbers and a B is 1.2.
I have 1.1 so I get the chanting, if you have a gold cartridge you have the 1.0
Always gives me goosebumps
Holy crap that's creepy O.O could be a theme from Majora's Mask
PichDextro
It’s not creepy at all, it’s rather fitting.
This is totally not me listening to this while going through the Fire Temple because my game's Fire Temple has the Shadow Temple music in it 😭 ... yeah... actually it is me...here ... listening to this to keep the traditional feeling alive while going through the Fire Temple 😂😂😂
I remember being so confused when I went to a friends house and played the Fire Temple with different music.
Which one did you have? 1.0 or 1.1?
@@DeskoDev I had the later version so I guess 1.1.
@@TheMasterfulcreator You had 1.2. 1.1 still has the chanting and blood
@@theobserver4214 yep yep sounds right.
I have this on while playing Ocarina of time on my 3DS and i am on the fire temple right now i purposely listened to this while doing the fire temple. i grew up with this version of the fire temple theme i have the the original gold 1.0 cartridge from when i was 6 years old back in 1998 i still have it to.
What's so bizarre is I feel like I remember the chanting, but when I go back and play the game it's not there. But I have the version of the cartridge that has the crescent moon Mirror Shield...
+The Kind Gamers ALL versions of ocarina of time on the N64 had the crescent moon mirror shield, it wasn't until GameCube they changed it. However, they changed the fire temple theme and the red blood to green blood in the version 1.2 cartridge of Ocarina of Time.
Noah sixtyfour Ohh, okay, thank you. I'd been confused about that for a while.
It sounds like "make it go away make it go away"
#MrFretz I hate you 😂😂😂
thats dark as fuck
I can’t unhear it now
i think its the gorons telling darunia to make volvagia go away before being eaten
No this is islamic.
I was scared of the fire temple because I thought the gorons were crying for help because they were about to be eaten.
So, in the new version, they kept the same melody of this chant, but used that classic video game midi synth sound and added harmony? I think they pretty successfully kept the essence of the chant in a subtle way.
Nintendo tried I guess
I don't see/hear anything wrong, I find it rather peaceful.
Because that peaceful religion, think you know the one, might find it offensive, we couldn't accidentally offend anyone, now could we. lol
@@5688gamble it is peaceful. I‘m a Muslim and I don’t find this version offensive
Ok baldie @@5688gamble
Seems fitting to me. This dungeon does take place deep in an active volcano after all, so it should sound chaotic and scary, but also calming at the same time.
If that super volcano ever explodes, this song would fit perfectly with the aftermath, lava and death everywhere, everying charred, dry and ash covered.
Hello Giorno
why is it a mix of scary and pretty? I dunno-- i only played ocarina of time with my mom when i was very young i don't remember anything about it....
I'm replaying it currently though!
"exile volvagia exile volvagia" i like to imagine the ghost of Darunia chanting this after being eaten by Volvagia
just go to the temple as child link
This music was pretty awesome. Probably my favorite dungeon them from the original Ocarina of Time, and that's no small feat either since that game had some really good tunes.
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+rei kon Lavender town... I just can't forget its theme, especially the R/B version. Good and creepy memories :D
They could've just redone it with their own chanting!
Agreed
And pay how much for a choir?
Nah, they should just have left it, freedom! Can't just remove everything that may offend someone, or you'd have no game at all! Why do Muslims get the right not to be offended, even unintentionally, while other religions and atheists are deliberately mocked all of the time!
@@5688gamble they had an official cease and desist from a saudi king. I would've removed it too lmao
@@5688gamble if it was a christian chant and like the pope wanted it removed im pretty sure they would remove it
Ah, yes. I still have an original copy of the game that has this unaltered version of the song. Still has the star and crescent symbol too. Always going to be treasured to me.
this song was removed for a reason, because it was disrespectful to islamic people
@sxnses I'm disrespectful to Islamic people so I don't care : )
The revised version is creepier and more atmospheric, but this one is kind of soothing.
I didn't realize this theme had chanting in it until I played the GameCube version and noticed that something sounded different.
Yeah and it was terrible.
THATS A RELAXING MUSIC FOR ME LOL
Nintendo is removing videos like this. Quickly, save these videos!
I got the original rom, ill never let it die
@@DrunkDuckXD I got the version that has the chant (1.1, might get 1.0 someday) I will always have the original fire temple music
Don’t worry I always have version 1.0
i remember listening to this at five years old playing this with my dad
They should put this tune back in the game
Nintendo isn't thinking of a 23 year old game that's passed its prime
If they will make a switch remake, they will never add this back because, in earlier copies, this version has religious chanting in a foreign language and Nintendo did and still has a policy to never mention real-life religions. Which is why isn't in later copies
@@grizzlydino Yeah, it might offend Muslims, remember you aren't allowed to offend Muslims, just every other group is OK.
I agree the other one sounds so fake
Can't and won't - Nintendo
if Nintendo had left this in (for the majority of people), it would've been the best track on the game.
this song was removed for a reason, because it was disrespectful to islamic people
@@sxnses its not really disrespectful to us imo, seems kinda cool that they put it in for us
@@sanjum2475it's haram...
The Qur'an should never be used as Music, it has it's own Melody
I'll just come out and say it -- this is the superior version of the fire temple music. The kids who came after us think that the chanting is out of place but it wasn't. I never once thought that as a kid. In fact this music was an integral part of the original experience. I think the new music sounds like a lazy replacement- a copy-cat of the original music but using pre-existing sounds from the original game.
Not a lot of people think that, I'm Muslim and it does not sound like the Quran at all
I still have my original cartridge with the chanting version! So sick
No wonder that shit gave me night mares
I like to imagine the Gorons are chanting and praying to the goddesses (Din specifically cuz I like the idea of Gorons favouring Din) or directly to Volvagia to spare them. And afterwords they're just thanking link or the goddesses for saving them. Am I f***** or do you agree?
the chanting is islamic so he is trying to calm dodongos and volvagia that maybe is the fact
for me, this doesn't sound creepy as I always hear this kind of stuff via mosque speaker everyday
I love this version
It sounds like a roman colloseum that has a high death rate. Everytime the chanting starts Volvagia eats a goron prisoner
I had one of the limited gold cartridges. It was the chanting version.
I need this version on a 24 hour loop
Best description ever. no bullshit, right to the meat and potatoes.
This is my jam!
By the power of
Rah
Mut
Nut
Hanu
Pta
Neftes
Selcat
Sorbet
Secmut
Anubis
Can we find out who the men are who chant in the voice Spectral track 76
I hate how this had to be censored so every time I play Tolz oot's fire temple on the 3ds I listen to this
6ix9ine: "i know what they're saying your honor."
lmafoooo
You kids love 6ix9ine so much lol
@@bowens9347 6ix9ine is trash. Mafumafu is god tier >:)
It sounds like they are saying Ragnarok.
They always perfect the atmosphere in Zelda games.
*eyes widen in response to the creepy music*Who's expecting to get sleep now?
XD you failed to link my name, but message received! enjoy your nightmares of creepy-disembodied-chanting-people!
i sleep while listening to this
i sleep while listening to this
trying to find a 10 hour version of this song
Typhlo Gamma I don’t see the creepiness. I think it’s pretty soothing
Am playing a dragon ambience right now. This song is so badass with the loud sound of a dragon growling in the distance with an appetite.
this sounds soooo goddamn creepy
the face when you gonna nut that pfp and name is perfect
It reminds me of Dante's Inferno, the more you traverse down Hell the greater the chants
What if i told you what there sayng? it is creepy and weird but they say "In the name of Allah, the most merciful and beneficial,
In the name of Allah, the most merciful and beneficial,
There is no God, but Allah."
"God is good, Believe in Allah"
"Allah, the almighty God" when i fund out i was scared outta my pants
@@coffylofi7319 as a Muslim, i can agree with that...
It's so disrespectful to use the Qur'an as Music in a Video Game
Sound like the Bongo Drums in Fire Sanctuary of Zelda: Skyward Sword. Fire Sanctuary is the last dungeon of Skyward Sword after completing Ancient Cistern (Water Temple), and Sandship (Spirit Temple) in this game.
I think this is so pretty and I'm sad it had to be removed. I understand why and I respect that Nintendo didn't want to offend anyone with a prayer that's not supposed to have music in the background but it adds this sense of sacredness to the Fire Temple and it makes me wonder if Volvagia was ever actually evil or if it might have been plagued by something that made it rampage like Valoo in Wind Waker and the Gorons didn't understand what happened to their guardian deity and so the Goron Hero killed Volvagia
No, Koji Kondo (the composer) simply used the sample without knowing it was Islamic prayer.
@@AmaraFerris yes I know. But I'm talking about the original intentions of using the piece for the music. I'm well aware of how it came into being and how it got changed. I'm a writer so story and background are something I always think about when it comes to books, movies, and games. He chose the song for a reason. Yeah he didn't know and like I said I respect that it was changed but still his intentions make me wonder about game lore that we don't know about
I wish this version was in the Wii Virtual Console, 3D remake and Wii U Virtual Console versions.
I had one of the carts with this version in it, and really this is always going to be my preferred version.
also BTW the comments are a mess don't bother
I’m replaying Zelda oot rn and I just realized my copy had the og chanting in the fire temple lol
why i sleep so damm calm with this soundtrack i can even control my dreams try it 🤘🏻😊😊
yes becuase you are hearing sentences from Qur'an sacred Book!
it is fresh deep chanting of a peaceful religion it sure will calm you down
"bismillahi rahmani rahim" from the holy Quran