DS920+ Killer? Synology DS1522+ FULL REVIEW - 10GbE speed test & CPU performance
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A small but very important update to your review: with the current DSM release, it is now officially possible to use the NVMe SSD's as a storage volume on the 1522+. You can even split it up to have one SSD be storage and the other one read cache.
Also, 32 gigabyte is the officially supported amount of RAM but it does actually work just fine with 64 gigabyte (can confirm from my own 1522+).
Regarding transcoding: I have a Raspberry Pi 4 running LibreElec/Kodi which supports all formats I use natively, so no transcoding necessary.
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Great work, for this video testing 4K editing with video editors would be a great addon. You could do a 4K video editing test between different units to see which ones perform live editing premiere pro 4K 10bit files and prores as well. I shot lots of 120fps 4K 10bit footage so that would be great if you can test it to see which can do it and not have lag when editing video off the NAS if possible?
Totally agree
This is what I want to know as well. Also if the NVME cache drives is worth it for this purpose.
Update: I have since just used proxies and everything runs really fast and fine. The export is really fast, I hope it is all the full res files lol.
I think they should make something similar to Q-nap. Instead of capping the CPU, putting an i3 in with a GPU, and then they'd be able to have an HDMI out for video playback. The latest lineup is very underwhelming.
I want quick sync in my NAS and I’ll never buy a unit that doesn’t support it.
Rumor has it the 922/23 may still stay Intel
Same. I need to see what SpaceRex has in store that will help with transcoding on this NAS.
Since I have the 1520+ it means I don’t have a way to migrate my data to a NAS with hardware encoding since the 922 will surely come with 4 bays
@@ajv_2089 I guess it depends on your raid and the size of your current drives. Maybe you could drop down to a 4 bay NAS, just depends on if it’s worth it for you.
So this unit Doesn’t work with PLEX?
I have the RS422+ which have the same cpu as this model and my biggest issue with the cpu is the thermal problem. Dumping a few hundred photos in synology photos will really make this cpu HOT! 🔥🔥🔥 Aside from that thermal problem i think the specs are fine.
Did you try cleaning the dust and re-applying the thermal paste? (A quality paste like 9 or 11 W/mK cooling performance)
You absolutely can use the NVMe ports to create a fast SSD volume, you just have to set it up manually using the command line. I did it on my 918+ and it has worked great for almost a year, including surviving the DSM 7 and 7.1 upgrades intact. It's not supported by Synology of course, but it does work and once it's set up manually you can use the volume in DSM like any other volume.
A how-to video on setting it up would be a great addition to your channel. Probably get a lot of traffic too ;)
You totally can, but I don’t recommend people do it, just because you never know what update is going to happen / if it bricks you system.
@@SpaceRexWill I suppose anything's possible, but I'd say the most likely worst-case scenario is you lose the data in the SSD volume. For me, that's not a big issue. I backup anything important and most of the data is easily rebuilt (Plex metadata caches, etc.)
Where can I get the info pls
Is it the method used in this video?
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Got to comment; actually a few... I have a Synology DS1515+ that I've had for a long time. In reality, it's my second unit where the first one crashed from some sort of internal fault. Synology replaced it with no questions and it was out of warranty. Real happy about that.
I'm a senior on a budget so I replaced the drives almost a year ago instead of purchasing a new unit. I can verify that Seagate Ironwolf Pro 18TB drives work just fine on a DS1515+, so I suspect they will work on most everything Synology makes. It used to be that Seagate was Synology's standard, but apparently something happened at the corporate level. I doubt that anything technical is involved.
I can understand comments about CPU utilization issues. I've noticed that Synology's Active Backup software can be a bit of a pig. Seeing 60% CPU when backing up a single machine is common. I'm not encrypting anything either. I also have 8TB memory and this is certainly no issue that I've seen. I also have two 1TB Samsung SSD's installed for read/write caching in slots 1 and 2 (required in these slots on this older unit).
When I was considering a unit upgrade I looked at 10GB ethernet closely. The fact of the matter is that I just don't need it. Binding a couple of the existing 1GB ethernet ports is more than adequate in my situation. That Netgear switch you are talking about can take an ethernet adapter in the SFP+ slot though. This should work just fine with copper.
I may be in the market for an upgrade next year. I will definitely stay with Synology, BUT I probably will avoid the new DS1522+. Why is simple, I have NO use for power bricks! There are just too many negatives involved with them.
I will not show my 920+ this video. ;) Great overview thanks.
Lolol
Thank you for keeping us updated!
Glad you liked it!
Have it too, thanks to your videos.
I have two 20TB Seagate Exos and two 4TB WDRed. Therefore I used a DS218J. What I really hate is noise. The 218J was much quieter. And the thing is the 1522+ has a lot of (unessesary) "lose parts" that amplify the noise. Best example is the cover for the flash m.2, if you remove them it is much more quiet. The quality of the case is in my opinion too low for such a high price.
Proprietary PSU and NIC is ridiculous. Talk about e-waste and milking consumers for proprietary form factors.
Did you ever do your Plex video for users with a NAS with a CPU that doesn't have integrated graphics? I can't seem to find it if you did and I'm really torn as to what to go for as someone who is looking to buy a NAS.
I had problem about my synology nas
And Steve Baker
Technical Support Engineer write me about my problem that
We are sorry to hear that your DS218 has to be reset. This is likely caused by an issue in the DSM operating-system.
We understand that you are worried about losing your data. Please rest assured, your data should not be affected by the reset as the OS and data are stored in separate partitions on the drives. When re-installing the OS, the system should normally not touch the data-partitions of your drives.
I beleived and i did what he said now all my data erased omg i shocked after sir Steve Baker dissepeared i am alone there is nothing in my hands
Synology is regret bad nas choose qnap there isnt good support for problemss !!!
Synology is big regret
Dude, do you think this NAS will be capable of streaming 4k raw footage and being able to handle heavy Color grading in davinci resolve? Trying to figure out if this is worth it over upgrading storage in a new Mac Studio?
For raw play back should be! I would say any codec below 400MB/s will be fine but
I would like to watch a comparison between RAID 5 and RAID 6, read and writes speeds, with 5 drives in the array.
Thanks for the video.
i love your synology videos! Rex do you have a video yet on the best file structure to set up a NAS? like file sharing and music, photo, video, private stuff, backup, work, SMB, plex etc. Ive tried so many and i always end up with a mess of files. im sure you have a more organized approach.
better off building a computer as nas , most motherboard at 100buck , have 4 dim , 2 pcie 16x so you can add gpu and 10gb nic , and have 6 sata drives , and a m.2 and a 100buck cpu will be much more powerfull , ok will be a bit bigger , and will not have hotwap bay , but how often you are gone to changer your dives , and you not so tigth on space with 300 you can have a much better nas thant ths thing that cost 800 with 500 to spair you can get a gpu and 10bg card , and have money to spair on some harddrives
Thanks for comparing to the DS1621+ at the end of this video. At $699+$150 for the 10GB card = $849 for the DS1522+ vs. $900+$100 for a PCI 10GB card = $1000 for the DS1621+, the price difference of around $150 buys a faster processor for handling multiple connections faster (not saturating the single 10GB connection) and an extra bay in the DS1621+. Really tough choice. Like you said would be a no-brainer if they had included two 2.5GB/s ports on the DS1522+, but they did not. The power supply is built inside the DS1621+ though, right?
Yeah the power supply is built in with the 1621+. The price savings going down to the 1522+ I think will make since for a fair number of people who are really looking to get in faster than 1GbE, but its hard to say
Can we use partially of each HDD? So e.g. first HDD is used for a cellphone, and the second HDD is used to laptop, and so on with its different account to log in for it. Can we do that?
My Synology DS1522+ did not last a year before I got the blinking blue power light of death.
Hi brother, excellent video, unfortunately I just got my SD 1520+, it is awesome with excellent streaming capabilities, unfortunately my nas got crazy to the point that I have to let the Synology technicians try to fix it remotely, unfortunately they couldn't and we have to reset the network, after that I did ask the technician why went I tried to register my nas and paid for the 2 extra years of warranty the site says I cannot because this ds 1520+ has been discontinued, but is not the case with older models, and the technician told me that this model have a few problems with the hardware and around or after 2 years some of them get broken and for that Synology not only discontinued this ds 1520+ but they also don't want to deal with exchanging this unit, and as this technician told me is being a lot of replacements world wide, unfortunately he recommended me that if I can change it just go and do it, the chances of losing my investment in a short time are big, he recommended me to go to the ds 920+ but as I have 5 drivers I can't, so he say the other solution is or remove 1 drive and get the 920+ or upgrade to the 162xs+, well.... it is a huge chunk of money just swapping, but I think I will, I am not a IT guy or video editor, or with a company with a lots of TBs in info, but I have and planning to have tones of 2k and 4k family videos, photo albums, I have very good knowledge in tech. I know this Ds1621xs+ is probably more than what I need but I love to stream my videos from my phone, without wires, we are a family of 5 and basically all of us save our memories using the photo app, video app, this apps can order everything in chronology order, by day and year, that's why I need something reliable, to preserve my family's memories. Also I just tell you guys all this because I don't want you to lose your information with this 1520+, it is bad, I was really impressed how this guy streams my 4 k video no latency and smooth, now it is up to you guys, if you guys want to confirm this just call this number in the Americas (Synology): 1(425)2963177 , unfortunately this issue is not stated in any Synology information letter, unless I didn't see it, it is bad because most vendors still selling this guy at the regular price and that's not good, I will return this tomorrow at B&H at NYC and will inform them about this information at least I will have some peace in mind, guys be safe, GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!! and spread the VOICE, it is the only way to protect our selfs as a consumers.
" I did ask the technician why went I tried to register my nas and paid for the 2 extra years of warranty the site says I cannot because this ds 1520+ has been discontinued, " 1520 or 1522 ?
@@sow4now Bro.... Honestly none of those, they are garbage, the 1522 is a newer garbage.... the best for a good price is the 920+ or if you want more future proof but more expensive the Ds1621xs+.... y have this last one, in my case I use it to store and backup all my family pictures and videos, daily I use 5 phone to load my Nas with 2k and 4k videos and pictures, using the Ds drive the pc and the Ds video and Ds photo apps the streaming is very smooth, very powerful, all depends for what you need it in my case I think this machine is to much for just my family but I am ok with it... it is powerful, I will probably make a video Ds1621xs+ showing it in this way to stream videos....I love my Ds1621xs+
Very important that you clearify your relationship with Synology, and thanks for keeping us updated on new products!
that 10Gb card should be included by default. It's a rip off to charge for it £130
I especially appreciate your highlighting the net value of unit 'upgrades'. For example, the 16 w/10gb 2 port ether and 4 ram vs the 15 w/ 1gb 4 port ether, 8 ram & 10gb for more $. Personally, this is a stupid design game that pisses off their market. It's a high time preference margins scheme which inevitably benefits a wiser competitor playing the long game.
I believe they nailed it with this unit. The 2.5gb port and 8GB of RAM paired with a moderately snappy CPU might make many heavy users complain about only one upgradable port, loss of Intel CPU features, too much RAM adding to the purchase cost, etc etc. For the average user, household, or small business looking to just plug a NAS into their existing network, this unit is going to perform exceptionally well and really not face any limits. Plus not needing to worry about upgrading RAM and such makes it a super easy to recommend unit for non tech heavy buyers. Overall it just seems to have nailed the specs for what I'll ignorantly will say are the most common customers for Synology.
I would overall agree with you! I would rather have the 10gbe option, then only 2.5 gbe.
i run a lot of VMs, would this satisfy my needs or should i go to the 16+?
Great video.
What do you thing about the NEW Situation in the Compatibility List? All 3rd Party Vendors are deleted actually and the incopatibily Warning is very in Front of all Warnigs inklusive that the Health of Volumes is reported as "in danger"! That´s a horrible Situation, iitiated by Synology in 03/2023! Absolute not acceptable any more.. In my Opinion SYNOLOGY NAS Systems can not be used any longer!
1522+ is the latest version of my 2nd Synology 1515+ NAS, which has some known circuit board issues and was replaced with an extended warranty due to an Intel CPU bug a few years back. The replacement recently developed a power-up issue, but it was solved by waiting long enough, like a day or two, it will power up. Once it powers up, it stays up for months, if not years. I used it as a backup NAS for my original Synology NAS, a two-bay + 517 five-bay expansion (expensive) box brought 7 years ago.
Overall, the NAS serves my home network well for two users. In a year or two, I may upgrade the next 15XX+ with 4x8T drives and one for spare. The 10G NIC will be interesting, but it may not be necessary for just two users and the 1515+ four 1G NICs combined with a switch may be enough.
I am learning 321 back-up the NAS data with this channel's idea, which saves me time. Thanks.
You probably already know: it IS possible to make an M.2 Volume with this nas with some community-provided scripts. I did it on my DS918+ and my DS923+. Note with the DS918 that its PCIe 2.0 slot and a really weak CPU, it really struggled. But the DS923+ has the new Ryzen chip and it is very fast with NVMe devices. The DS1522+ has the same CPU, and it will run M.2 SSDs at full speed over 3200MB/sec.
Also, you can get 2.5G ethernet cheaply and easily on this. Just get a USB-based adapter, and use community-provided drivers. It works fine on both my synologys but soon i'll be looking to go 10G. Meanwhile 2.5G is awesome.
Is the 1522+ capable of running reliably with 5 x Seagate Exos X24 24TB HDDs in RAID 5?
Bought a 1522 NAS from watching this video plus others, but my write speed goes from 700mb/s down to 400mb/s on back magic disk speed test. Tried all kinds of tips from your videos, but still slows way down. Sometimes stops completely while transferring. Large video files. got in 16gb ram, 2-2tb m2 cards, 10gb card 10gb switch, only have 3 drives in it, but still slows down more than a standard spindle drive. Really disappointed. Will slow down to 20KB/s. yes KB not MB. Read speed is at the nice 1091gb/s speed though.
Hi, if we use the 10gbps via the proprietary adapter.. Is it still possible to utilize the 4 gigabit line in LAN aggragation mode for line backup purpose?
I'm sceptical about the fans being quiet. All Synology units I've tested (two) had fans that made an annoying ticking noise. There are a lot of other users who replaced the fans with Noctua fans for that reason or they found the fans to be too loud. Synology uses the same 92mm fans on a lot of units, so I expect a lot, if not all of them, to make that ticking noise. I could hear it across a living room. Perhaps make a recording of the fan noise so that customers can go to their dealers and demand a unit that is as quiet.
Really odd. I have never heard the fan clicking noise. Any chance it was your drives? Those do click
@@SpaceRexWill Hi, thanks for responding. The ticking definitely came from the fans, as it was present even with no drives installed. The other unit I tested made the same noises. I'll try to find a link to a TH-cam video demonstrating the noise. EDIT: Now posted below. I hope the comment will persist as once it was gone after I tried to edit it.
@@SpaceRexWill You'll find a lot of search results, if you search for "Synology fan rattle" or "Synology fan ticking". It looks like they are using fans with cheap bearings which are prone to making such sounds.
@@SpaceRexWill Here is a link to a sound recording of the "ticking" / "rattling" noise. You have to click on the loudspeaker icon in the top right to turn on the sound.
I have the 1522+ and I definitely hear some sort of dull click. I'm almost certain it is the drives though.
I also have the 1515+ and it has never made any audible clicks over the past 5 years. Its siting a foot away from me and very quiet.
Another great one
Will, would You rather go SMB Multichannel with those 4xLAN bad boys, or upgrade to 10Gbps and flip Your entire network - like getting new switch 10Gbps, and stuff ?
I understand it's less than half the speed, but You don't necessary need to change all other network parts.
If You don't mind, I will repost my question here as well coz it fits just right ito subject. Would it be possible to expand even more 2 lines with 1Gbps USB adapters to 6 total with this unit ?
You should do a tutorial on a 1552+ and 1621+ for them who use it for Plex (transcoding, heavy file, film transfers from computer, phone etc)! Should they use 2,5G, 5G or 10G from computer an how, cat 5e or 6 cable from the adapter in to the 10G card etc do a complete tutorial (a really good knowhow on everything)!
Great Video.. I am going to be replacing my old 2 bay unit with this one. Just ordered today on Amazon as its PRIME DAY... Am i able to just move the drives to the new NAS and boot it? Its an older SYNOLOGY NAS that i can't upgrade to DSM 7. So not sure if i need to migrate the data can just move drives to the new NAS.
At 3:30 in you complain that they only offer it in 10G RJ45 and not SFP, but as of now, I see they have an SFP offering too (which is weird, because your very own Amazon link for the 10Gbe Card, takes you to the SFP version). Possibly things changed since your review just a few days ago.
Two standards for SFP+? No, i dont think so.
I need NAS for photos. Which one from your opinion is better 1522+ or 1621+ from performance point of view?
The 1621+ will perform better in every metric other than price. Both should be fine though
@@SpaceRexWill Thanks a lot for your answer! Is 1621+ is a still up-to-date device in 2022-2023?
Absolutely. It was a massive step up from its predecessor. I do not think the 1623/24 will be a huge difference
For a PLEX server, can I just use a Raspberry Pi and then put my files onto the DS1522 for it to access the files? If not the Raspberry Pi I have a Mac mini I can use.
WARNING: No hardware transcoding with this model due to CPU being an AMD Ryzen.
So I have been using the DS1819+ and I have been using it mainly as a plex server. I have been toying with getting a DS1522+ (because I can get one for $600) so that I can have a true mirrored backup in another location. I have about 35TB of media files Current setup is 8x8TB drives RAID 5 in the DS1819+ so I could get 5x14TB drives so that both have 56TB, or do I get the DS920+ for $450, and sacrifice the extra storage space for the future for a built in graphics card to be able to run 4K movies in the future which my current system can't do. The vast majority of my media is in 1080p and 720p. What do you think?
Nice review. I think Synology could've sacrificed 4GB of RAM and installed some 2.5Gbe NICS from factory for the same price point. At least that way customers could upgrade the RAM if needed.
Customers can currently upgrade the RJ-45 to 10Gbe ,no problems
Anyone verified? " I did ask the technician why went I tried to register my nas and paid for the 2 extra years of warranty the site says I cannot because this ds 1520+ has been discontinued, "
FYI - I had 16TB Exos drives and 14TB WD Red in my 1621+ and 1821+ with zero problems.
My 1821+ came with 8GB RAM, which I upgraded to 16, and my 1621+ came with 4GB RAM, which sucked because I had to buy a 16GB kit to get it to 16GB, and the 4GB is just sitting on a shelf. I also tossed the Synology 10G card in both (yes, I have a 10G network at home). 4GB on the 1621+ I never understood.
Few things. A script would really really really really help your videos flow and continuity. It'll take your vids to the next level. Also, don't forget to breath when talking. You can do a voice exercise by going as low as you can, then as high as you can, and it should help your tone.
As far as NAS goes, I still think imma grab the 920+. 4 cores means I can potentially run VMs.
The whole breaking timing thing I for sure need to work on.
As for the 920+ even though it has 4 cores vs the 2 cores of the 923+ the 923+ has a much more powerful CPU. VMs can share cores so you dont need to worry about running out of number of cores. You will get better performance on the 923
Can anyone recommend a good 10GbE NIC for the DS1522+?
Curious about the 100USD addon that would bypass the lack of GPU transcoding.
Getting it in the Mail and going to be testing it to make sure that it works the way I expect it to first!
@@SpaceRexWill thank you buddy. Looking forward yours insights on it.
@@SpaceRexWill I'm looking forward to that also!
Can anyone elaborate on the name of this add-on?
What is said add on? Is it a NUC?
How would I connect a MacBook Pro M1 Max to this unit's 10Gbe add-in card? I don't see any adapters out there. And if I could find an adapter, would it really perform at 10Gbe speeds?
Hey man, appreciate all your video, really help me out with the NAS madness. Just brought the 1621+, with 4 drive, raid5. My 10gbe connection is not as fast as your test on the 1522+, only achieve 300-400 write, 500-600 read. Currently running on 4gb ram, cat6 cable. Will upgrade ram to 32gb will speed up my 10gbe connection?
Upgrading the ram likely will not help. Checkout my video on top 10 reasons (maybe 15 dont quite remember) why your synology is slow and it lists out what to check for
.........so which NAS-SERVER is great as NAS & PLEX?
Great review as always. I'm in the market for a new unit, replacing my old DS414. About the drives. You said DS would give me an error or warning just once. At Nascompares he said that if using not officially supported HDD you always see orange warning as "UNVERIFIED". So let's say I go for Ironwolf Pro drives which are not on the compatibility list, but also not on the incompatibility list. What message would i get and will it be permanent? With Ironwolf non pro models there should be no issues or warnings since they are on the compatibility list.
Thank you
Will using SSD Sata drives increase the read/write throughput?
So, how would you rate the ds1522+ vs the DS1621+ performance vs value wise, my 9 bay Qnap is dying and I'm running a revived 718+ for now so I really need a replacement.
If you are not planning on running anything really heavy on the NAS (docker, VMs, drive with lots of users) then 1522+ is easily enough. But if you are planning on running a lot the 1621+ has a lot more power under the hood
I'm surprised you don't talk about the fact that you can setup a port channel (LAG) on the 4 ports to have 4Gbps throughput since most people don't have Nics over 1Gbps anyway or even doing transfers over AX or E.
Problem was until SMB multichannel came out you could only use that to get faster speeds if you had a bunch of users connecting
@@SpaceRexWill multichannel was part of 3.0 back in 2012. I'm just saying you mentioned 10Gbps for multi user when you can get almost half the speed for some cheap cat cable and decent Google search. Doesn't take a CCIE. Anyways good vid just that one part stood out as it's something we deployed.
DS1010+ Has power inside :-) And its still running strong.
That must be your review 👕 🧐
Faithful subscriber........ excellent review👍
Those four ethernet ports on the back can be trunked to achieve a connection of 2 Gbps or more.
What happens to the four 1gig ports when you’re using the 10gig port?
What is the DS1522+ Maximum Internal Raw Capacity using SATA drives?
So 'officially' its 18TB, but you can easily throw in 20
Firstly, thank you for all your well-considered & knowledgeable Synology posts. I'd like your thoughts on Synology's use of external power bricks on the DS1522+ and lower models. I'm reading that these are recurring points of failure, and much less reliable (long-lived) than internal power supplies - like the one inside my old reliable DS1513+ or how the DS1621+ is powered. Is this something to be legitimately concerned about? Thanks
For really cheap electronics from brands you have not heard of external power supplies are often really cheap. From my experience with synology it’s pretty unlikely that it will fail. Not saying I would not prefer an in built. But they tend to be solid quality.
SpaceRex, I’m new to the NAS world. Do I need to turn off my NAS when I’m done working on the computer or is it safe to keep it on indefinitely. I have a DS220+
They are designed to run forever!
I have the ds720+...
Is it faster whwn dloading videos via wifi on my phone?
Thanks a bunch!!!
over wifi and a single user you will not see really any difference
Looking for a gbe backup nas for my nas 2 or 4 bays is fine ssds would be good.
Is this better than the ds1821+ ?? I do video photo and need the best speed . PleSe help thanks
Also what size nvmes should I use ?
The 1821+ will be faster than this unit
Wow great video, you explained everything every clearly and completely!
Any reviews or input on Synology Racks, e.g. RS822+ and RS422+
Saw RS422 and started wondering what you might be talking about. RS422 is also a very old serial port standard. I remember using it a lot in the 80's. I know its off topic but its also curious that Synology would use the same nomenclature.
Would the DS1621+ still be a better option when needing to edit and colour grade 4k log or raw footage without lag is crucial? Thanks so much man.
The 1621+ will perform better than this unit. To grade heavy codecs you will need 10GbE on either model you buy
@@SpaceRexWill Tysm man, greatly appreciated.
You can test them as a Movie or Music servers. With ISO files of CDs, Blurays and UHDs. The reproduction can be done with Zappiti or similar products
yes
I'm a school photographer was is the best synology system? What hard drives you recommend that's over 14TB? I am using Fiber from AT&T.
If you are just looking for photos and you need under ~50 TB of space, the DS920+ is a solid unit that is on sale quite often. If you are looking for an upgrade this unit can be really solid
@@SpaceRexWill Which hard drives do you recommend? Do you think you adding extra RAM to help improve on the upload my photos? FYI School photographer and Videographer...
The only thing would be if you are cutting videos off the NAS. Then the DS1522 with the ability to go 10gig is huge. But if you are just looking for uploading photos you will not see a real difference
What memory modules do I use to upgrade the DS1522+?
If you're still looking, you can either buy Synology RAM or watch the video that NASCompares did on that exact topic.
how a Nas like that perform in a workflow with 4 or 5 users using folders with more than 1 thousand high res photos?
Absolutely fine!
@@SpaceRexWill Thanks. Even if all five are editing the Nas stored photos in a editing tool like Lightroom or Photoshop?
Absolutely. Even if you had 100 MB photos it would be fine!
Hi Rex Love your stuff - helpful for my newbie self.
Comment/question. I put 32gb in my 1621+ and I still get messages at night that Plex/etc ran out of ram (during volume leveling?). I’m assuming a good percentage of people bought this FOR Plex……. (And then I found it can do so much more lol).
Maybe I have something setup wrong.
I do have all indexing enabled…..(I think it is useful)
I also get messages when I am file searching that it is temporarily not available. A retry usually works. I don’t know if that is memory issue or what… but it’s very annoying.. I search constantly….. verifying whether I shady have a movie, etc.
I have added at least one VM so I can run windows - needed for a number of things I do). And will be adding some SQL server Dockers (MS, My, PG, Ora)
Thanks for the channel !!!!!
That’s really odd. Plex normally does not use much more than 2 gigs, there must be a bug somewhere. I would probably file a bug report with Plex. Sorry couldn’t be much more help, never seen that before
@@SpaceRexWill thanks sir. Don’t expect you to troubleshoot my issues. But at least you can have knowledge of configs and issues people have….. and make a video when there is a pattern 🤓
When I feel like being with it, I’ll check with Plex support and let you know.
@@SpaceRexWill on another note -- I started this 1621+ with 2+4+6+6+8 TiB and then moved 9.5 TB of files to it (60% full).
Adding a 16 to that ran 3 steps and took 60 hrs.
Pushed it up to 80% full (18TB) (oops, that was sooner than I thought)...
Replaced the 2 with an 18 -- 4 steps -- 117 hrs.
The 4 failed shortly after (so almost exact same data as previous 'repair') ...
Replaced it with a 20 -- 5 steps -- *** 255 hrs *** (+ 7 hrs for scrubbing).
A knowledgable friend told me that is because I used such small drives in the beginning -- it is limiting how much can be done per pass (like a defrag in low space scenario) and causing a ton more work.
He says if I had STARTED with larger drives, it should take less than an hour.... In my scenario, he said if I had built the initial volume with the 8 TiB alone first and __then__ added the others, things would be much smoother.
If true, that would be a great tip for those Getting Started videos.
He is going to loan me a unit so I can move everything over, rebuild my volume with the large drives, then move everything back. we'll see how that goes . . . .
$559 right now, good price?
Yes very! Thanks for the info!
you are awesome
Do you do private consulting on Synology?
I do! I actually am starting full time with it at the beginning of the year: www.spacerex.co/hire-me/
Great video. I moved to the DS1522+ from a Drobo for my Lightroom Photo Library. I am new to NAS & have a basic question: I started with 4 6TB drives. I know if I add a 5th drive with 10TB, I would only get 6TB that are usable. I want to eventually convert all of the current drives to Seagate Iron Wolves. Will my current Raid 5 setup always be capped at 6TB X5? Or if I eventually convert all 5 bays to 10TB would I get full use of the 10TB X5 storage? Or would I have to do a new setup to get full use of the 10TB X5? Bottom line: is there an upgrade path for increasing capacity by increasing drive size? Thanks, Joe
Pretty sure RAID 5 won't allow you to mix drives of different size. You would need to migrate over to SHR to use 10TB (though limited to only using 6TB of the capacity for now, but allowing you to eventually use it as 10TB if you added more 10TB drives later).
Is converting from Raid 5 to SRH a simple conversation?
@@jmmcg9 No. At least it isn't natively a click and play option to just upgrade in the DSM 7.x software. You *can* do it, but it typically requires a couple free/open bays to put new drives in, format as SHR and install as a new volume, then "move" data from your old volumes to this new one (again, requiring all the data from the old to fit on just the new drives) then delete the old volumes and then move them over to the new pool of disks. So, it can be done, but not easily. And, if you've already got 4 drives in your current system, you have no room to start with a NEW SHR volume of drives unless you can migrate off a couple drives from that old volume/disk pool (meaning you have plenty of spare space). Google Raid 5 to SHR options and you should find ways to do it...
I've had to do something like this before. I bought a 16 Tb drive and an external enclosure. I copied everything from the NAS onto the external drive. Then converted the NAS to SHR. Then copied the data back to the NAS. After that was all done, I added the new 16 TB drive to the NAS Raid.
What is the add on ?
Is there a 1622+ coming out? Which should I buy... 1621xs+ or 1821+ ?
There will not be a 1622+ for another ~6-8 months
1821+ is the way to go unless you need crazy horsepower (which you don’t)
@@SpaceRexWill Thanks. I want to use my NAS for 3 specific reasons. 1- Pro Video Editing (10gbe), 2- Plex, 3- long term storage and personal data. See my dilemma? But I guess I can run plex from my iMac and just store the files on the Nas right?
Synology does not usually upgrade a unit from one year to the next. Two years is typical. I would probably opt for the xs series where they have Xeon chips running. Feeding 10GBe and PLEX are somewhat CPU intensive.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Great review as always!
Thanks!
Thank you for your video. Very insightful. Would love to see how this unit performs vs 920+ especially when using 4K videos. I currently own the DS 1817+ so similar to your DS1819+ and I must say it is performing great. Personally I do not care about Ethernet ports because I will never pull wires and get great wireless speed throughout my house with my eeros 6 pro. The only issue I have with the ds1817+ … it cannot deal with my 4K footage shot by my iPhone when transcoding is needed. I am almost certain the ds920+ would take care of it. Would the DS 1522+ master it? What about surveillance cameras. I would only use 2-3 cameras. I’m sure both 920+ and 1522+ would master it. I’m waiting to see what upgrade will replace the 920+ this year or next. Thank you again.
not sure if you know, but even the 12 drive slot DS cannot transcode 4k properly. Synology don't seem to want NAS to do anything other than being a NAS. Get a proper inexpensive PLEX server to do that, and everything will be great.
Personally, Plex is my main "non-standard" usage, so not been able to transcode will make me choose other device
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