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Haerin always picked the hardest sides to defend but still managed to bring up logical points. The way she compose and organize her thoughts is smooth.
she’s so smart
Totally agree, she is capable to convince everybody about everything ✨✨✨
Yeah and I'm totally loving her IDGAF attitude despite being solo defender at one point. She's just the silent-type but she's really firm inside.
Haerins actually correct for most of the debate topics. The first one is correct on evolution. Meanwhile Hanni's and Hyein's dinosaur argument was utter nonsense 😂
The one of leaving the tastiest food last is also supposed be correct because that's why appetizers and deserts are always served first and last respectively.
ngl when she's making her arguments she's is so attractive
Haerin’s rebutals were insanee, she literally convinced me each topic
But the fact that Hanni was able to make her team win *everytime* is wonderful
@@honeyosweet3877 yea because minji likes hanni more so her opinion matters more. Whereas if it was anyone else who was mc it could be diff :/
@@honeyosweet3877 you've been spamming the same statement...
@@honeyosweet3877 go away
Haerin's lose is so obvious , she is the person that always want to be different than the most members , so she never think about what side is more logical , she just sit and wait for others member choose and she defend the other side , of course she is introvert so it very normal. Her point about food and cloth color are weak and wrong , black is best at uv light protection and white is the worst , best food eat later is dumb , because food are best when server hot and fresh , leave best food last when it cold and decrease in texture and taste is stupid. In addition, the more your stomach full the worse your food will taste , so fill your stomach with normal food first will make your experience when eat best food at last is much worse than eat at first.
okay but we have to admit that MVP of this debate obviously goes to Haerin, she did a great job in every topic she supported
@@honeyosweet3877 Nobody cares whether she wins or loses. because of the ability of haerin It shows everyone. Even the members complimented her. Go away Anti.
@@little4898 come again? How am I an anti?
@@salawni they didn't tag you, I think they commented on the person who might've deleted their comment
@@yarrowarts ohh that's my bad i didn't notice, thanks for pointing it out
haerin and hanni in a team would literally be unstoppable
LITERALLY 😭
unfortunately, they never have the same opinions ...
was surprisingly shocked when haerin started debating alone, her personality of being curious shines here
We love a logical queen 😎
I've been through lot of nj contents . And she is the smartest member
@@imenlkr i've been through all of them too!! she's indeed the smartest but she tend to keep all of her thoughts in her head most of the time ( she's my bias btw
I agree, she is brilliant 👍
My exact thoughts as well, i was surprised because she seemed so firm as well 🥺 i love seeing itttt
haerin constructs her point so well and everything goes just in a logic way. also, she can easily catch others' bug. no wonder she's the member of debate club
@@honeyosweet3877 Can you go away? You're making people here dislike Hanni because you bring her up in other members' praise comments.
She’s the Captain mind you!
Haerin made by far the most intelligent arguments. If I had to guess, I would say that she's the smartest girl in the group.
haerin is so eloquent and smart that I got so shocked hearing her explanation about uv rays cause I wouldn’t even think of that like 😭😭😭
bro fr, im in awe
Haerin is so smart, she was against 3 members and perfectly slayed all her statements without stuttering, makes me love her 10x more!! wrecked all ur bias list
Samee, i feel like she's really rational, despite being an introvert she ain't afraid to stand firm on her own opinions🐈
But the fact that Hanni was able to make her team win *everytime * is wonderful
@@honeyosweet3877 Nobody cares whether she wins or loses. because of the ability of haerin It shows everyone. Even the members complimented her.
@@little4898 Because she lost haha 😂
Haerin was getting a little pissed off at the end #meow 😹
Seeing Kang Haerin getting more comfortable in front of the camera while still being her introverted self is one of the best parts about this group. They have the best chemistry and are very well integrated with one another, really nice to see.
@@honeyosweet3877 go away Anti.
@@honeyosweet3877From my point of view, the only reason why I think hanni won all of the round is because she was more louder in a persuasive tone than being more logical.
@@honeyosweet3877 You’re literally copy and pasting what someone else commented
@@honeyosweet3877 First of all, it’s not all about being which side is logical, a debate is where you express your thinkings, therefore each side would have facts. Additionally, just because she’s an introvert doesn’t mean she’s defending the other side, she may have chosen the other side because that’s what she believes or maybe she chose the other side not because she’s different but because since this is a tv entertainment, someone needs to be defending the other side or else what would be the whole point of this video if everyone is on the same side. As well as, as I previously stated, you probably didn’t even read my text since I stated that’s she’s partially correct, before stating the uv-protection thingy she said that black absorbs light therefore it would get very hot in the summer. Also, like I said the order of how you eat is a preference. Your food will get cold and the texture would change only if you don’t eat it for at least 1 hour, therefore as long as your not the slowest eater your point on your food getting cold is wrong.
@@lucky250games2 There’s no point in writing a argumentative essay on a stranger when she still lost 😭🤣🤣🫶
해린이 말을 너무 잘한다..어느 팀을 하던 다 논리적이고 같은 팀 멤버가 주장을 펼칠때 힘들어하면 깔끔하게 딱 정리해서 말하네..진짜 설득 당했음
Haerin's argument and structure for her debate is actually very well thought out if you analyze it closely. I liked how, in the opening statement, she brought in a relatable example with the compliment thing and then introduced her argument without revealing too much of her rebuttals.
해린이 왜 토론클럽 만들고 싶어했는지 알겠음.. 본인 적성에 넘나 맞기 때무네…!! 눈빛이 묘하게 또랑해지고 평소와 달리 말을 속사포로 내뱉는데 와중에 발음, 발성 정확… 이건 즐기는게 틀림 없어…!
I swear Minji is born to mc. She handles the chaos so well 😂
Agreed, she's wise
She's the de facto leader after all
Absolutely leader
Can't wait for her to debut in dramas😭😭
haerin is the real mvp omggg. I love it because shes so calm and not emotional at all
haerin perfectly slayed all her statements and rebuttals, she is a “there’s nothing wrong if u talk about ur beliefs” person, i swear.
Their chemistry day by day 📈📈📈
Agreed
Objectively tho, I think Haerin is the most eloquent and quick witted among the members in this debate setting while Hanni just SELLS everything with how persuasive her tone seems to be. Would've loved to see a Haerin x Hanni pairing because that pair would have Haerin laying the groundwork in the opening statement, then Hanni going with the persuasion attacks during the Total mess section.
agree!!!
Facts
Hanni's personality is emotional. Haerin's is logical. But unfortunately in life most of the time, it's the emotional arguments that win
@@ZX235w3 and what's more unfortunate is both are important.
Fr tho, with Haerin's logic combined with Hanni's persuasive skills , they'd be unstoppable. They'd be able to convince and gaslight anyone lol
민지가 심판일 때가 제일 웃기넼ㅋ
그리고 강해린은 ㄹㅇ 논리있게 토론잘하네 기초지식도 탄탄한듯
강해린 세계아이돌 토론대회 출전시켜야겠네
ㅋㅋ해린이 너무 귀여워요
해린이 한 번도 못 이겼어 ㅠㅠ
해린이는 자꾸 불리한 편에 들어서 일당백으로 싸우다 짐 ㅋㅋㅋ
해린최고
해린 졌잘싸
haerin's arguments were solid! The way she calmly delivers her thought wd logical reasonings and its crazy how her rebuttals were to the point!
But the fact that Hanni was able to make her team win *everytime* is crazy
@@honeyosweet3877 Stop inserting Hanni in other members' praise comments. You're just making Hanni antis.
@@midorisen oh-oh the Chinese Haerin solo has made their way here.
@@peonies9352 Oh. Another Hanni akgae
@@honeyosweet3877Just shut up
해린이가 머리 은근히 좋네ㅋㅋ 말 정리하는것도 잘하궁
강고양이 아주 천재만재야 🥹💗
Haerin speaks what's on her mind clearly when she needs to. I really admire her as a fellow I, because I could never. 🥺
ok but let's talk about how Haerin is so smart tho!!! her reasonings and rebuttals make total sense and she managed to convince me all time! and not to mention she's very calm too!! like😭😭 if it were me in a room debating with loud people I'd probably scream and cry
This makes me appreciate Haerin even more 🥺 she's always so quiet but here she's so eloquent. No wonder she's the debate captain. ❤️
@@honeyosweet3877 they are both very smart indeed it's just surprising how vocal Haerin is here. Also her points were all really solid. I enjoyed watching her speak up. ☺️
@@honeyosweet3877 Nobody cares whether she wins or loses. because of the ability of haerin It shows everyone. Even the members complimented her.
@@honeyosweet3877 nobody care , this is just a game lmao it's for fun and giggles only you taking this seriously at the end of the day haerin still made the most logical and Smart arguments .
haerin is so smart and her argument always logical and make sense, she's not my bias but this episode make me love her even more, might be my bias wrecker.
@@honeyosweet3877 Nobody cares whether she wins or loses. because of the ability of haerin It shows everyone. Even the members complimented her. Go away Anti.
@@little4898 tell that to yourself. Hanni won. at least learn to acknowldge that instead of being a sore loser towards Hanni... _smh_
same here 😭😭
who is your bias?
해린이가 진짜 토론도 잘하네… 너무 설득력있고 말도 유창하게 잘해… 언니….매력이 넘쳐흐르잖아…
So happy for Hanni winning!
She is so humorous, smart, energetic & cute at the same time. Love to see her enjoying w/ the members. May she continue to shine & be happy in the future too!
Congrats Hanni Pham!👏
Hanni and Hyein too made this debate episodes so entertaining to watch. Otherwise it would be too logical and might get too serious between them and a little awkward for us audience
Please keep this series going on, I love seeing Haerin talks a lot 🥺🥺
이번 영상의 백미 : 해린이가 1:3으로 맞상대하면서도 기죽지 않고, 자신만의 논리를 전개해나가는 모습.
ㄹㅇ 보면서 논리로 야무지게 반박하고 치고 올라오는거 보고 나보다 어린친구인데 반했음 너무 멋쟁이 포인트라고 생각함 😭
All of their personalities really popped out on this episode, especially Haerin’s debate skills. But you can’t deny how hilarious Hyein is. She’s adorable😂
아니 해린이 진짜 머리가 똑부러진다 ... 말하는 방법도 설득하는 방법도 뭔가 언어를 서술하는데에 있어서 유하다고 느껴진다...... 안될과학에 초청됐으면 좋겠다ㅓ ...
7:40 hanni unleashing her best weapon the "🥺" face that nobody can resist especially minji 🍞🩵🩷🍞
On this episode, I am mostly on Haerin's side. Her reasoning on each topic is exactly what I say when there is a discussion like this with my classmates 😅
@@honeyosweet3877 Nobody cares whether she wins or loses. because of the ability of haerin It shows everyone. Even the members complimented her.
@@little4898 I can't agree more.
The question is still not absurd, they should ask questions like : 'what if you turn into a cockroach?'
then you will see, how Haerin & Danielle have their imaginations going beyond the limits of reasonableness 😂😂😂
Yesss!!
Haerin only losing because she only added logical points even on mess debate. She's super knowledgeable and can express very well, so very proud of her even when debating alone
it’s so satisfying to see how haerin talk about her opinion in debates, you did well job!
Every kind of glasses suits Hanni, from the Hype boy performance, the Ditto and OMG recording, and even the OMG mv, it looks really mesmerising. Not only is she pretty, she's also very confident and smart. Love rabbit Hn
해린이 토론잘한다..
진짜 설득력있고 예리하게 말하네
'중요한건 꺾이지않는 마음' 이란걸 몸소 보여준 개굴냥이씨🐸😻
대견하고 자랑스럽네요👏👏
혜인이 막내모먼트들도 너무 귀여웠어🥰🥰
4:28 Hanni *aggressively lengthens pointer* 👉
5:36 Kang kitty using it as a mic 😸
6:05 Hanni just enjoying the chaos 😆
6:35 Haerin's shy headturn 😳
8:26 winning team teasing
16:22 debate captain mad at her debate partner
haerin is so smart I love haerin‘s talks❤
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Their debate are so interesting. I feel like haerin could win with her arguement in a real debate. Her point are much stronger and very convincing
Them celebrating Haerin's win was so heartwarming ahhh especially Danielle giving her so much love
모든 토론에서 해린이 한테 설득당함ㅋㅋㅋ 역시 침착한 강고양이😻
해린님이 너무 말을 논리적이게 잘하시네요. 진지하게 토로에 임하시는 모습이 특히 아주 멋있었습니다!
해린이 엄청 논리적이네..! 몬가 이과생 느낌
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 토론은 원래 문과 전문인데 이과생 느낌으로 토론 캐리
@TheChallenGTV 얼마나 찐따면 이런거로 빡치냐 안쓰럽다
@TheChallenGTV이과는 논증보다는 실험적 계산적 검증으로 설득하는 경우가 많아서 토론을 통해 쟁점에 대한 여러 관점이 나올 수 있는 건 문과 맞는 것 같은데
I'm so shocked, Kang Haerin delivered the idea brilliantly, so impressive 강해린 너무 잘해
めっちゃ同意、ヘリンの意見が結構説得力あった
해린이가 침착하게 논리적으로 말을 잘하고 대체로 해린쪽 의견에 동의했는데 결과는 반대여서 아쉬웠음 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 맛있는건 나중에 먹어야하는데! 글구 혜인이 귀여움 ㅋㅋ
강해린 어휘력 완벽하다
이번편 강해린 찢었다
강해린 똑똑하다
강해린이 말 이렇게 많이하는거 처음 봤어❤❤
Agreed 🐸📏s
@pneumonoultramicroscolicsilicovolcanoconiosis 검정옷을 장례식에 입게 된건 서양문화가 들어오면서부터임
과거에는 삼베로 만든 밝은 옷을 입었음
따라서 그 논리는 그 시대의 배경과 문화에 따라 달라질 수 있는것
Omg im so proud of Haerin. Captain of the debate club indeed omo she spoke so well and bring up points clearly. My fav color is black and im black all day. But even she convinced me to side with her lol. She’s so witty❤
I'll never get over hanni saying " Listen to my dinosaur talk "
HAERIN discussion skills are superb!!
This is the first time I heard HAERIN talk so much🐸👍👍👍
I really really love and happy to see haerin being talkative❤
해린이 쇼츠로 볼 때랑 너무 다르게 토론을 너무 잘해서 놀랐다..
she was introduced as debate club captain on newjeans debut album
They are very knowledgeable and smart especially Haerin and Hanni. Hanni shines in the 1st ep and now Haerin. I think even if they didn't become idols, their future would be still bright! I'm glad to be a fan of such lovely, talented, smart, kind-hearted, down-to-earth, grounded, well-informed young ladies!
I love Hanni's emotes when she won 😂
Hanni so mad, crazy & funny 😝
6:28 HAHAHA, love Hanni and Hyein's synchronized kdrama acting 😂😂😂 this is definitely me an my bestie
14:42 wow haerin is really really smart and knows how to argue well it’s sad that she got out of school but I’m happy she’s Persuing her dream
They can still study even they are not in school
can't stop watching haerin's smile❤❤❤
10:19
14:25
Her debates here were pure genius
Hyein haircut, glasses , outfit and vibe, everything about her is just so adorable
And her expressions. She's so sassy but also charming.
i still cant believe that haerin has a witty and logical side of her. its indeed true that introverts has a suprising side of them. so proud of her😺
*EH.* I’m so confused to see that Haerin didn’t win (even more none of the debate).
She was the most rational, delivering facts without becoming tempestuous and always picked the trickiest side while answering each rebuttal with fluidity. The art of debate also is to show your POV with poise while keeping her cool 😎 and she was the MVP in this. (And I’m glad to see the majority of comments are about how *SHARP* Kitty kang was.)
BUT shoutout to my little Hyein this crackhead’s rebuttal and POV made me laugh so much PLEASE protect her 😂
So proud of haerin, A very smart girl. Determined to fight alone. Also i noticed the way she always encourage her teammates . I'm always here to support you haerin-aah.
Haerin is something, her thoughts are always different from the others.
if all the members thought the same, there wouldn't be such a chaotic debate like this.😂
@@honeyosweet3877 Nobody cares whether she wins or loses. because of the ability of haerin It shows everyone. Even the members complimented her. Go away Anti.
I’m soooo proud of my two biases: Hanni and Haerin.
Hanni spoke with such passion that tugged at my heart aggressively while Haerin developed her thoughts articulately and spoke with such conviction that I eagerly awaited her rebuttal for each question
Hearin def should have won all those rounds, her explanations were clear and straight to the point, haerin is smart fr
2:50 this maknae hyien talks about love so passionately😂
Haerin is so cool😎 The best debater and a genius 🤓💝
The special thing is that Hanni's team always wins, she is smart and knows how to argue 👏
@@honeyosweet3877 wow, go away Anti.
@@honeyosweet3877 whats your problem lmao
@@honeyosweet3877 every comment won't be about the winner Hanni
Haerin's IQ is very high than you That's you're jealous
@@honeyosweet3877 *dies of cringe*
Fun fact : Hanni Pham finally find a game she's goot at😂
she's smol but smart 😂
@@HanniPham_NewJeans Fr she proves :
Short but smart
해린이 뭐지.. 토론 너무 잘하는데? 그냥 물흐르는데로 이런들 어떠하리 저런들 어떠하리 성격인줄 알았는데 물론 취지에 맞게 일부러 더 그러는거겠지만 자기 주관 확실하면서도 논리적으로 똑 부러지게 말하네!ㅎㅎ 글고 가끔 이나영 느낌남.
Haerin's explanation and reasoning are so clean and spot on 😺
A Newjeans content a day keeps the boredom away. Do y'all agree that seeing them smile brightens our moods and spirits ? I'm on this train forever 🚆. Let's go 🤘
Yes I agree!
I listened to OMG by newJeans and on Hanni's part i totally went OMG because it was just SOOO beautiful that i became a newjeans fan thanks to Hanni~ssi
7:35 하니 귀여워 죽겠네 ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
6:54 to 7:20 This's really the words Hanni wanna tell to Minji🤣🤣
My Bbangsaz heart💞❣️💖
@@sunoomintchoco143 Love Bbangsaz❤❤❤
해린이 진짜 ISTP다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 토론퀸 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
모든 말에 근거가 완벽해 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
I would love to see HANNI x HAERIN duo team up in the debate next time! How powerful would it be, Haerin calm demeanor + Hanni's impressive convincing methods (both are logical too). 👍
Haerin's arguments were really convincing, she's definitely the winner of this debate
"Just you" "They're already calling the other person baby" "They're already in a relationship" "You can't pull them apart" "They already in love with each other" well that escalated quickly lmao
Lmao, shows how proactive hype boy person is XD
when haerin debating vs 3 others, tbh she's so cool
I think Hyein should let Haerin win this round even Heyin agree with the other team but Haerin carry herself very well there
The special thing is that Hanni's team always wins, she is smart and knows how to argue 👏
@@honeyosweet3877 Nobody cares whether she wins or loses. because of the ability of haerin It shows everyone. Even the members complimented her.
Has anyone noticed their eye glasses have the same design style?😎
6:20 Haerin is talkative in this video. I have ever seen her speak out so much. Her confident is glowing.
11:45 okay I was trying taken aback by Haerin's rebuttal. Bravo
hyein seems so mature at times but she really does looks like a maknae here 😂
Honestly, she looks like a lost child so innocent 😂
@@d.ackerman8956 she's ENFP
@@voidcattus1147 wait isn't she an I ? Same with Hanni
@@d.ackerman8956 no
@@series25a only Danielle and Minji are Es
Hanni to Minji: Don't let anyone else take you because you're mine, okay?
Minji: *mouthed okay nodding vigorously.😂❤
Too much Bbangsaz skinship here ^^
They're interactions are always the best parts of the video
bbangsaz 😍😍
what time?😂
It starts at 7:00 😆 I can't with Hanni 😂
7:00 BBANGSAZ MOMENTSSS SLAYY
Haerin had the best points you can’t convince me otherwise.
Wow. Haerin is brilliant. I think she has the best logical reasoning among the five of them.
But the fact that Hanni was able to make her team win *everytime* is crazy
@@honeyosweet3877 Nobody cares whether she wins or loses. because of the ability of haerin It shows everyone. Even the members complimented her. Go away Anti.😂
@@honeyosweet3877 She has an incredible persuasive skill that convinces people to agree with whatever she said 👍🏻
@@little4898 "Nobody cares whether (Hanni) wins or loses."
listen to yourself clown.
you are an anti Hanni.
Hanni won, learn to accept it and stop bein a sore loser. it's all just for fun, nothin serious...
@@honeyosweet3877 its crazy how you get triggered by compliments.....pure cringe
Hanni literally lived up to her nickname Total Mess Queen 👑❣️
아니.. 어떻게 저렇게 전원 말도안되게 이쁠수가 있지???
Hanni is really a TOTAL MESS QUEEN! Her nickname says it all even from the start. 😂
아니 나 진심 토론도 잘하고 논리 오지는 강해린 모먼트에 제대로 반햇음,, 진짜 이 사랑둥이 만년돌을 어찌할꼬 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ🥺💗
7:40 팜하니 진짜 귀엽네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
14:04 Hyein was nervous and Haerin was talking to her that they can do it 🥺💕
I'm happy to see that Hanni won the debate, because you know she always lost in all their game activities even from the beginning. She's no longer sad and we can't have a time stamp for her sulking moment like a baby
The Aussie line arguing with each other is so funny 😭
im so proud of haerin being alone and manage to do it by itself 🌷🌷
I just started watching new jeans, i didnt expect haerin to talk a lot 😂
Let's take a moment to appreciate how passionate they were while debating. As a group, Newjeans makes everything entertaining 😂