Here's Why The All Electric Ford F-150 Lightning Is The Ultimate Overlander - No You're Wrong!
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This truck is so good at overlanding that Roman refused to sleep in the actual rig 😂😂
I love EVs, however I agree with Tommy. In this case a PHEV would be better suited. Maybe in the next Gen Lightning the battery range would have improved enough and charging infrastructure improved it may be better suited.
You can throw a generator in back.
@@htimsrecneps thats is what a PHEV is. ;)
@@TFT-bp8zk there are all types of PHEVs with all kinds of configurations. People were hoping that Ford would offer F150 as a PHEV but instead, only offer a HEV and the BEV.
One of the best configurations was the setup Chevrolet used in the Volt. A full size engine with a 18.4 kwh battery. Single speed transmission. It acted like a full EV, and the engine would only power up when the battery was low. A similar setup with a bigger battery would have been perfect for a truck.
On the Alaska trip seems they had some range anxiety, which meant slowing down substantially to get the battery to last long enough to get to the next charging spot. I think I could do without that headache.
My Rivian is arriving today. Not going to do much "overlanding" it, but we will be towing a 26', 6000 lb travel trailer with it. Including this coming weekend. Where we're going, the Rivian should be able to make it on one charge - although since it will be our first test, I will stop on the way to top off just to be sure. (Don't want to run out of charge within sight of the campground.)
But one of the huge advantages - if we're going somewhere we're sure we can make it to on one charge - "fuel" will be free. We'll just recharge at the campground. Even stopping to top off on the way to play it safe, the Rivian will cost ~$150 less in "fuel" for this trip versus the diesel pickup it's replacing. We mostly take our camper to one of four or five campgrounds within 150 miles of home. Those will all be "free". (~$5 to recharge from 0-100% at home, electricity included with camping at the campgrounds.)
As for charging stops on longer trips? We stop every two hours to eat or because *someone* has to use the bathroom already. Those will now just be 40 minute charge stops with the bathroom and eating while charging instead of 20-30 minute stops. The last time we did a longer trip in our diesel pickup, it took 20 minutes to refuel it after only 250 miles. So the electric isn't adding a monstrous extra time.
Let’s us know how things work out for you in the real world with actual driving and weather conditions.
So u are saying that in a diesel truck it takes you 20 minutes to put enough fuel to go 150 miles? Sorry not buying that. It takes me about 8 minutes to fill my diesel truck that if I tow 6000lbs I can go about 300 miles. Also you think you going to tow that 6000lb travel trailer 150 miles with rivan? Go watch out to spec motoring. See how far they have towed there trailer fulll of water. Good luck going 150 miles with a 6000lb travel trailer.
@I QUIT YT All the campgrounds we go to have at least 120V 30A, which is enough to recharge over a weekend. If we ever go anywhere that doesn't, we'd make sure to top off at a rapid charger before arriving.
@@bunnyfartloads Two tanks, backwoods gas stations don't have the fastest pumps, so it took about 20 minutes. And that was for 250 miles, not 150.
And yes, I've watched the out-of-spec videos. That's why I'll be stopping to top off along the way, just to be sure.
@@bunnyfartloads My Tundra with the 5.7 gas engine is only good for a 240mi range. If I tow, it's a lot less. Sure I can fill up easier and quicker but I'm still stopping often.
I like the lighting and might get one in the future second or 3rd gen when batters are better. As of now I was a hd truck guy but I was only using it as a daily driver and picked up a st explorer for what I do it’s perfect and fun .
Keep the content coming guys - just loving this “Model T” F150 Lightning .
I really wanted to buy one, but I just bought a used F150 and will wait to see how battery tech will improve in a few years time. Tesla’s have been mainstream since 2008 , and range has been improving. I wish we could make more range by reducing the Shelby-like 0-60 times a bit , but the tech is so exciting and compelling / my regret is that I may not live 25-35 years to really see how they develop .
A quibble I have - our 3 story home with all LED lights , central a/c , new 97% efficient furnace , electric range /dryer/stove uses 25-110 KW a day , averaging nearly 65-75KW on days above 80F . I don’t know how the average home is always said to be “30 kw”. I may get 1-3 days max from the extended range Lightning .
I am considering this vehicle for retirement and off-grid power source in the future . Far better deal than Tesla powerwalls .
Keep going guys - love this so much !
Also , was there a Lightning Alaska trip video on Saturday? I couldn’t find one ?
Well, 3 stories is not really what I'd consider to be the "average home."
Great for camping in the Walmart parking lot while charging or for short distance trips. With the lack of ground clearance No good for offload camping.
Overlanding seems to be a very broad term that means different things to different people. I'm really wanting to know, isn't 220 miles off-road a pretty long distance? I've watched some overlanding type videos and it didn't seem they went that far. Another thing was the gas vehicles were limited by fuel and all of them were carrying extra fuel. Would a gas vehicle go a lot farther than 220 miles off road? I would think the extra strain of off roading would diminish the mpg. Please don't mistake my comment for siding one way or the other and get mad about it. These are genuine questions. Thanks
just to be clear i like the lightning. but 220 miles off roading vs heavy camper i don't think it will go that far.sounds like roman needs to prove some people wrong and take this overloading. would be a good video.
But you can carry extra gas. (5 gal can = 75 miles at 15mpg) You can't carry an extra 75 miles of electric range.
@@jeffforbes70 I guess it would all depend on the overlanding topography. If it were dirt roads and no major climbing, it might make it that far. I really don't know. It would be a good video to test the theory. Is a typical overlanding trip that long?
@@jasondawson4091 that's true. I guess theoretically there are ways to extend the range. Maybe solar panels, generator, or maybe an extra battery. Just brainstorming. None of those might not work. Would a typical overlanding trip be over 200 miles off road? Just curious
@@dalejones4322 I couldn't tell you. My camping involves Holiday Inn. LOL
Love the banter between you guys
Love your channel!!!
Any thoughts about running a small electric heating panel in the bed of the truck for heat camping overnight?? I'm picturing snow camping with a warm and cozy camper shell... Also, could you put Solar panels up on top of the camper and plug it back into the Lightning and charge it??? Someone needs to make a solar panel system that plugs into the charging input port!!!
Good video for those who do not watch your videos, but this question has already been answered, tested and proven in your other videos that it is not good for overlanding. The best bet is the powerboost hybrid.
Because of your other previous videos that have done a good job I have decided that I would rather get the powerboost hybrid and stay completely away from this one.
I think both had good and valued points but for me it's the charging, constantly charging that alone is a deal breaker for me. But as always really enjoyed the video. 👍🏻👍🏻
Technically speaking, you could carry a few 400 plus watt solar panels plus a cheap inverter with you (it is a truck with a bed after all), so for mathematical simplicity, lets say 10 panels, that's 4kw per hour for at least 5 hours and another of half that for a few more hours. So you could get around 30kw or more on the best case scenario in a day's charge. Even if you only carry 5 panels, you could still get 15kw or so added every day. And it's not like you could just try making your own gas out in the middle of nowhere. Yes, you could bring a gallon or two with you, but then again, you could also bring 5, 10 or 15 kw batteries with you for the lighting. So you're covered either way with it.
Edit: for those of you that don't know, people already do this. Just check out the Will Prowess channel for example. Search for the video titled "Using my Offgrid Solar Trailer to Level 2 Charge my Tesla" and you can see how the system he put together works. Since he only had a Tesla Model 3 at the time, which does not have a bed to carry the panels and inverters, he had to make a trailer to carry everything. He gets 114 miles per day just charging off those portable solar panels. Of course, since the Model 3 is far more efficient than the Lightning, you have to expect less for it. But even if you get only half of that, it would still be 57 miles per day while you're fishing or doing whatever you like to do while the truck is charging.
How much did it cost him? Since he used top of the line inverters (you can get much cheaper ones, especially now that they have come down so much in price this last year with so much new competition), he spent $1,400 for the inverters and other equipment for his 240 volt level 2 system, and he got several $50 panels (yes, you get them that cheaply, especially used grid level panels. On his channel he shows you how he and others do it), and the only thing else you will need is something like the Delta EcoFlow RIVER Portable Power Station (which does for around $249) to power the inverters (which you can also charge simultaneously. It only uses 600 watts to charge from 0-80% in an hour, or half of those watts if you make it slow charge for 2 hours instead). Delta actually sells a 220 watts solar panel to charge it, for example. But please ignore the large 14kw battery pack that he placed in his trailer. That's just to give his Tesla extra range, so that's just overkill. But all that he has in that trailer, (minus the extra battery pack), easily fits on the bed of the lightning by just building a wooden box to hold the inverters.
Therefore, if you also use them when charging your lightning when at home (or at work) as well, they will fully pay for themselves in no time. Just calculate how often you spend $200 to fill up your gas/diesel powered F-150 or 250 or even 350 and you can calculate just how short of a time that would be. After that, it's all free money.
That's a fantastic point. Cover the roof and sides of the camper in solar panels and have a surplus battery pack that you can charge the car with - get stuck out in the boonies? Just chill for a bit and your battery will be full. Gas & diesel can't compare to that.
@@ColinFox how much do those solar panels cost pal?
where are they made?
how much is that surplus battery pack and what chemistry is it?
how will that affect range?
how will they hold up in inclement weather?
how much charge will you get in overcast skies? you know you get nothing at night right?
might as well add a windmill also!
wait the truck is 80k and i have to spend more to add all that? i apologize for not having that kind of budget
@@ColinFox For a few scant years (at most) Toyota offered a solar panel roof on the Prius, which helped power accessories but was found to add very, very little to range, only about one (!) mile after parked all day in full sun. Panels on the Lightening would be different, of course. Higher output for sure but a hugely bigger battery to fill. The panels would be bigger, heavier (putting them atop the foldable tent probably means saying goodbye to manually raising it when it is time to sleep). The huge battery, even with stronger-output panels, still would mean way, way more of an ordeal than "just chill for a bit and your battery will be full" as you put it. And I'm all for EVs!
Sooo. What is the range when it’s cold outside and you are running a heater ?
It is going to be very hot in there in warmer climates. No water, hot or cold, no sink. When you get to where you going you have to make sure you are topped off. Overland stops will mostly have no electricity.
where can the camper for the Lightning be purchased from?
I dont want to add range anxiety to my journey experience. Ill stick with a powerboost.. if i can ever afford one lol
Great Video guys. You should do a range test at 30-35 mph which better represents off-road speeds if you're truly out in nature. With almost no wind resistance I bet range would skyrocket.
They did this speed (30-35 mph) on the road in Alaska and still had reduced range due to the weight of the bed topper and the all-season tires they put on it.
@@CommonSense823 Fair point. I'd be curious to know what their energy usage was at those speeds. In fact, now that I think about it, with EV this is easy. Do 35, observe W/HR, extrapolate for fairly accurate range.
Best overlander with only 8" ground clearance. LOL
That 4R that was in the parking lot would fit Tommy's needs for getting off the grid and carrying more than you need for a weekend out in the woods and know you can get GAS going in and out with no fuss, no stress. And the argument of taking your time and seeing the sights(on the roads and campgrounds)a camper/motorhome would be a better choice than that Lightning. 😉
Lets see you put a lift on it and some 37 tires then try the Blue Cruise
Love your #1 reason Roman! I totally agree
I would like to see it being used more on the ranch!
That will be an easy sell once ranchers see the reduced fuel bill.
I think the hybrid would be better. It also gets the outlets to run devices and things in the woods but more range
They really need to come out with an Expedition and optional high roof. Then you could simply sleep inside.
The longest off road distance in the United States is the Magruder corridore. It is 130 miles , 113 between services. There are places to charge on both ends. An EV uses a fraction of its battery while traveling slowly, unlike a ICE vehicle that is encumbered by the fact that even at idle, not moving consumes between 1/4 and 1/2 a gallon an hour.
LOL. Please take a Lighting on this journey and let us know how that works out for you.
@@CommonSense823 As soon as I take delivery we are going to complete the Magruder. Its presents no problem. Charge overnight to 100% at the Red river hot springs camp ground. Arrive in Darby with around 20% including running the ac from the Lightnings pro power onboard on hot days, and this is with the standard range. Ill be happy to let you know how easy it is. I expect delivery in April.
@@matthewmortensen7401 Good luck. Make sure not to slip a tire off the road. Ground clearance is not your friend with the Lightning.
@@CommonSense823 That’s hilarious, people have done the magruder corridor in stock Rav fours and Subarus, every one wants to believe that they are so extreme!
@@matthewmortensen7401 so not really a challenge for a real truck at all. Good luck with the Lightning though. I hear they’re a bitch to tow.
What's the curb weight vs an identical gas powered truck? Can an owner add more batteries for longer range?
In America an owner can do what he wants to do with his vehicle. What country are you from?
@@kevincinnamontoast3669 -- Do what you want. But I think the question is whether there is an option for this. The answer is that Ford does make batteries with different capacities, but I'm not sure if this truck in the video already has the longest-range battery or not.
Infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure! One level 2 charger at the trail head is a great company advertising but will not help 10 overlanders. I love my R1T but going off the beaten path as with a Gladiator is a dream of mine for the next few years. As long as you find a path within the range, nothing out there is as good! Hope that this issue is solved very soon.
Hi there, the video is great!
Could you, please, tell me, what contact for the promotional offers you have?
Did you two clean that screen with a Snickers bar? lol
I have an idea Ford f150 gas trail riding range, vs lightning trail riding range test. Trail riding range should be the gas variants Achilles heel whereas it should be where the lightning close to shines
Solar panels on the roof of the camper would help adding some charge back while camping
Simple solution to the range: buy 2 EG4 all in one inverters for 13KW split phase, 3 EG4 batteries, & 6 350+ watt solar panels that you setup at camp, this will charge your truck reasonably well
Could even do a single inverter & battery with 3 panels to charge at 120v, just take a bit longer, more camp time.
I agree with you, Tommy.
Infrastructure is the check mate of EV travel as of current, as long as you are wanting to travel longer then the home charging will allow you, as in daily commuting. With the introduction of faster charging vehicles, like the Rivian , Ford, Chevy, Hyundai , VW and Porch, the demand is increasing and the supply , the number and variety of charging stations and reliability of charging stations is lagging behind.
Overlanding would've been a good thing to film for this.
I would have used a smaller non-pop up camper shell. It would have weighed less and created less drag.
From the sound of things, it was a sponsored product.
@@TheRealScooterGuy it was and you may have not seen the episode on how much they want for those.
The biggest issue with the lightning for over landing is it has terrible ground clearance
Thankfully 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Is there anyone out there that can design some aero to increase the range? Or has someone created a camper that is aero? Can you find out how far you can tow a small 4000 lb camper.
Think you will ever get it clean again? Looking better but still some grey here and there.
Still geeking out over the lighting?
Blue shirt is a interstate road. Red shirt is a country road. Country road don’t have many electricity charges station.
I’d just buy a Project M rather than a truck cap. More versatility. Keep it on all the time
Yes! 100% agree! The best bit about any electric car is that you can transit without putting copious amounts of c02 into the atmosphere. Just for this single reason it wouldn't matter if they are worst as a vehicle (which they aren't). Personally I've decided not to do any long distance overlanding in my Diesel powered LandRover until it is converted to Tesla power next year - Can't wait! There is also some interesting oportunities in charging while you are camping with solar panels. A lightweight array of flexible solar panels that you can deploy while you are camping can give you a bit more range.
No one ever talked about high clearance.
The Ford infomercial Continues! How much longer? About to start watching something else!
I live in Nova Scotia Canada, certainly not the sticks, there's virtually no charging infrastructure anywhere around the eastern seaboard. the only place that rig's any good is in/near major cities/interstates.
I'm also in Nova Scotia. Google says there are 150 charging stations in the province. I know of several near me.
yall just buy four Q-Cell 400 or LG420 watt panels and a small home inverter and you have infinite weekend range in the desert/where the sun shines .
Looks like you parked at popular running location, spotted lots of runners in the video lol
Calling this an over lander is like calling a hotdog a hamburger
This would be my last pick for a over landing vehicle.
The frunk is just for your adaptors hahah
Powerboost is better for overlandind...
You have the best of both worlds..
It runs on electricity on low speeds and it uses the gas engine to recharge it you can also use the battery to run all your appliances when you're overlanding
How much emissions does it take digging up the minerals needed to make them batteries and the amount of damage done to the Earth digging them up. It's one of the most intrusive mining processes there is.
Minerals can by recycled (right now about 95%of batteries). Oil is literally burned. How about oil leaks? Wasn't there ecological catastrophe on Mexican Gulf few years ago? And mining oil and gas isn't more eco-friendly.
What I want to say we are destroying planet by doing both those things, but technology is improving. Right now in England there is a company, that makes batteries from sodium. Future is electric. Period.
I’ve had my Lightning XLT extended range on order for the entire year. Just waiting on a build date. My dealer called me today and said there are no more 2022 builds. I can keep my order in for a 2023 but will have to pay 20% more. Instead of CAD$81k I’ll have to pay C$96k plus FPDI and tax. I’m so disappointed and angry.
I feel you. Just get the Rivian instead.
Did you put it on order via the website? Have you tried contacting Ford?
@@LeesChannel I placed the order through my dealership. They placed 25 orders for reservation holders and only got 4 for 2022. All remaining orders were cancelled because of the price increase. They tell me that the contract was only for the 2022 model year and because Ford didn’t cancel it (just couldn’t build enough 2022’s) then they can charge me whatever they want on a 2023 model. Just doesn’t seem right. Or legal.
@@darrinpickett2251 Yeah, that is not right at all. I would contact Ford, and hopefully there can be some resolution. In the future you should buy direct from the manufacturer if that is an option, I did that for the Mach-E and the dealer's hands were tied. Those people who were waiting for their car after the switch to the new model year got the new (more expensive) models at their original reservation price. You really should contact Ford.
@@LeesChannel Thanks for the advice. I'll do that. I should be clear that the remaining orders were cancelled by the customers because they refused to be extorted into paying a higher price.
You need to have battery packs that would charge the truck if you got too far out overlanding! Like a gas can.
Well said at the end Roman, I also have electric vehicles, and so do I appreciate the great land we live on and we need to preserve it. Overlanding, if you believe in doing your part in trying to save the planet, you will make it work with the Lightning
Saving the planet? Burning coal and natural gas is ok for the planet as long as it's out of sight apparently. Hydroelectric dams destroying salmon habitat are ok, because the destruction can't be directly linked to your tailpipe. Raping the planet for Cobalt an Lithium are just fine, because you don't have to see it from your back yard, and it's only slave labor, who really cares. You must believe that electricity just magically comes out of your outlet, and the production and disposal of these vehicles happens by fairies. It's quite the head in the sand mentality that people choose to have about EV's and their "benefit" to the planet.
I'm with Tommy on this one.
I think Tommy is too uptight to enjoy the adventure, he's more about the destination. I think this is a great rig for overlanding. It would have to be well planned, which means less spontaneity. Also, EVs are so quite, imagine the wildlife you roll up on.
There is a big chunk of overlanders use forest service roads seldom over 100 miles. If this truck could tow my trailer 300 miles. i would buy it.
It’s genius really, why California is mandating these, the towing range is bad so it can’t tow a trailer when you give up and move out of state
Have to agree with Tommy.
Solar panels of some sort would help for off roading
Solar panels another unfriendly green technology because solar panels can't be recycled causing yet more pollution.
Ev's is not equal off Freedom, overlanding is about the adventure. For me Ev's products are not ready to be worry free. The logistics about how to charge is a nightmare, So you over paid just for a huge headache. Anyway I'm a fan for more than 8 years, and never get tired of your videos, great information, but for me the key is the chemistry off TFL team, is a big family 👍
80k wow
Why doesn’t this huge truck have a single solar panel? It’s got enough surface area on that camper to power your camp sight.
With off road tires and lots weight on the bed, nobody has done it, 220 is a start, with all this weight i would like to see 300, I know its coming, I am IN
I don’t understand the fretting over EV range. You buy the vehicle that makes sense for YOU. FORD makes great trucks, and this EV is frickin’ great. Even when the it’s battery must be replaced, I’m absolutely confident that it’s future replacement will be a massive improvement over the original item.
You guys are out of your minds 😂 going to bring the other Ford f150 with you so you can charge it lol 😆😂
I think if someone can create a field solution like a solar panel, wind generator, or hydro generator that plugs into these vehicles it goes a long way to making it a great overlanding vehicle.
I’d also like to see how it handles your CO winters and some actually rugged roads. Not saying rock crawling but a serious trail of which CO has many.
Bring on the F-150 solar panel tonneau cover
@@aussie2uGA I wonder if a panel that size vs. a battery that size would amount to even a drop-in-the-bucket kind of scenario. For a few years (at most) Toyota offered a solar panel roof on the Prius. It helped operate the accessories but added only about one (!) mile of range after being parked in full sun all day. Much smaller panel than one on the tonneau cover, true, but much smaller car and much smaller battery, too. But I'm a big fan of EVs (don't own one yet) so I'd like to see some calculations based on the specs of the panel and specs of the battery.
Tommy, just out of curiosity, can you think of or describe an over-landing itinerary that is out of the capabilities of this truck as currently configured? Let’s give the existing charging network the benefit of the doubt and pretend that all of the infrastructure is working as it will be in a few years.
This is a really good question because most people don’t really realize how far 240-300 miles is.
i live in washington and would like to drive to california in a day. i would be stuck in oregon possibly and would love to find the fastest charger.
i recall some pretty bad freeway gridlocks last year where people were stuck for over 18 hours on the east coast so imagine hurricane evacuation.
extra fuel and a generator as well as kindness helped a lot of people.
alaska also hasnt had the best luck with ev and tesla build quality.
Any trip that requires this truck to slip a tire off road is out of the capability of this truck. It has zero ground clearance. Lifting it and putting any type of real tire/wheel combination on it kills it's range. Any weight (payload) added to it kills it's range as well. This is not a well thought out or executed 1/2 ton truck. It would have been better off for Ford to try to replace a 4 cyl. Ranger than badge this turd as an F-150.
@@jacobmanalang8162 In a few years the SAE charging network will be as ubiquitous as the supercharger network, I have made several multi state trips in a SR model three including two from Port Townsend Washington to San Deigo and back without any variation from the time itinerary of trips made in a ICE car.
@@matthewmortensen7401 it took TFL 2.5 days to make it from Redding to Seattle in the Lightning. Totally unacceptable for a trip that should be a single day (no hotels in between the two points).
EVs in remote places could be charged by generators in the short term. So how about comparing how much diesel per mile you use charging an electric F150 vs a driving a diesel version.
Also in the short term if you have low powered electrics at a location they could still be used to slow charge a big battery which can then be used to fast charge an EV. Could also be augmented by solar. These solutions are already in use in EV fast charging setups.
You can settle the argument by actually taking it to some national parks and camping. I’m with Roman on this one
Is it just me or are others getting sick of looking at that cheap looking skim milk colored front light bar and headlight wrap?!? Damn that looks like chit!…oh damn there it is again!
That is some reaching to justify time spent at slow chargers. Often time where the charger is isn't a place you want to enjoy being at.
This truck shows everyone why electric trucks will be the future for all jobs. But this use case isn't something they are the present for. Increase that range by a minimum of 2x and make the chargers more abundant and high speed at all locations, then they are ideal.
Roman is not very persuasive in defending his side.... But it is a nice truck, for other things...
Audio volume is really low on this video
Bring a tent and carry a diesel generator in the back 😆
When I finally get my F150 Lightning Platinum, I will be REPLACING the EV motor assembly and any drive shafts with custom CNC'ed all-Titanium alloy. Then I will change out the coils and shocks with my custom designed and CNC'ed all-Titanium compound curve upper-hub wheel drive design with extending four-wheel independent suspension with ULTRA HEAVY DUTY hydraulic tube-within-a-tube design just like what's on the HUMVEE so I get a full user-selectable 12 inch up to 36 inch clearances AND combine that with rheological active suspension and damping (like what's on a Cadillac V-series) so I can push the wheels down and pull them up via ground terrain image recognition and multi-spectral LIDAR/RADAR/SONAR (I am an expert vision systems programmer). Because my suspension design is fully independent, I can also do four wheel steering and crab-walking.
For the front and back of the truck, I will be putting on custom designed and welded Titanium heavy duty bumpers with 16,000 lbs winches front and rear and have full-width bush and bull bars front and back with built-in Bright White/Infrared/Orange LED fog lights and a rotatable LED lightbar that is also bright white/orange light capable and infrared light spot and flood capable at the full 100,000 Lumens for hours at a time during nightvision-based driving or campsite use.
My GETAC 810-K/IP-69 Mil-spec rugged laptop with large screen will have all the connected Infrared nightvision capable Sony A7s3/s4 DCI 4K cameras that will be installed facing front, back, top, left, right and underbody recordin in real-time with all sorts of exterior sound and METADATA saved with every frame to separate 20 Terabyte ruggedized hard drives. Then add the multi-band CB/FRS/VHF/UHF/Shortwave SDR (Software Defined Radio) system with twin 20 foot long collapsible/extendable whip antennas for super-long-range communications. Add in a built-in Starlink satellite internet system for 150 megs download and 50 megs upload speeds anywhere in the world. I'll also have a multi-antenna extended range gaming Wifi Router.
I'm also putting those fancy DARPA SHAPE-SHIFTING WHEELS on it that can turn from round wheel to triangular rubber cleated tracks and back again via in-cabin switches within mere seconds! I'm replacing the batteries with our in-house Aluminum-Sulfur designs (1600 miles range!) and putting on a custom all-carbon-fibre canopy with built-in side lockers and extending roof camper and user-selectable gel-cooled and heated bed. I'll put a rear-truck-bed pull-out Propane four-burner stove with griddle and a pull-out kitchen with hot water sink, collapsible shelving, stainless steel cooking worktop, built-in 200 litre combined Fridge and Freezer and 15 Kilowatt generator with multiple 240V, 120V household plugs and 48V, 24V, 12V, 5V DC plugs and many USB-3 charge ports for my portable tools and household appliances.
AND YES I will be bringing my camera drone, espresso machine, ruggedized OLED tablets, 1500 watt microwave oven, Playstation/XBox, 4K portable projector, 120 inch projector screen and 7.1 Surround Sound Bluetooth BoomBox Speakers for home theatre sound in the evening or during rainy days. Then I will bring the multiple 6000 watt roll-up solar panel blankets for vehicle and power pack recharging, two Jackery-style 3000 watt portable wheeled power packs, Inflatable Kayaks and Canoes, two 4x4 off-road scooters and full-suspension mountain e-bikes and a full 20 by 16 by 10 foot four room -50C winter-rated double walled insulated tent for my extended trips with inflatable bed, couches and lounge chairs.
Add in LOTS of MRE's and Mountain House Food and four 40 lbs Propane tanks, multiple ceramic space heaters, portable air conditioner, active mosquito and bug repellers, winter-rated fluffy down blankets and pillows, 120 litre expedition packs and bugout/3-day assault packs and climbing gear, alpine and cross-country skis and showshoes, -50C rated winter boots/winter gloves and raingear, lots of fishing and hunting gear, water desalinator and micron-level water purification system and enough other camping supplies to last me up to a full year in absolute comfort within the faaaaaaaaar backwoods of Western Canada without needing resupply.
THAT s what I will be doing to my F150 Lightning Platinum! (I don't care about the Ford warranty since I have access to in-house mechanical, structural and electrical engineers to verify and sign-off on the designs and final build for 3rd party liability and comprehensive/all-perils insurance coverage purposes!)
Can't wait to get the Lightning!
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A V6 Raptor isn't much more expensive than this. Better use of money, unless you really want a battery powered vehicle.
Roman and Tommy agreeing. Probably after family therapy session.
Its great an so is the price if you had money 😆
I disagree, now if it had solar panels or a way to charge while camping or being stationary/ driving then maybe but with no diesel charge port its I'll equipped and disappointing period give it 20 something years maybe
I disagree with Tommy - the ability to spend one of those nights charging at a campground should not be a problem at all.
As Roman noted, time should be on your side if “overlanding”/camping. Suffering through camping next to the guy in the RV one of the nights isn’t bad…we did it in our Lightning outside of Bryce in Utah and it was great.
Overlanding is not about camping where you can charge though.
What this truck excels at is getting groceries in the fronk and rural mail in the back. If that’s what you cal “overlanding” then yeah we agree.
Suburban mail.
The lightning can't level 2 charge on a 30 amp circuit . It's rated at 32 amps which would need a minimum 40 amp circuit . This also includes that 30 amp 125 volt campground outlets that won't work and sometimes that's all a campground may have . You can use that 30 amp 240 volt dryer outlet as it's undersized for the level 2 charger . Now Tesla can use all those voltage configurations . Now coupled with a 220 mile range which isn't 220 miles when you calculate at 80 percent maximum charge and you probably don't want to go below 10 percent . You are also loosing on highway driving seen on this type of driving . So you may max out to 120 to a 150 miles before you need to charge up . So even if you do find a power source for your level 2 charger that takes 15 to 20 hours to get a full charge means just staying overnight at a campground would only get you half a charge . The Ford lightning is not a vacation traveling vehicle with that 220 mile range . The over 300 range is better but that quite a bit more expensive and still has those charging limitations . Tesla is still a far better choice but that's a car . Going to have to pitch a tent . The bigger the vehicle gets the more challenging an EV is and why Tesla has struggled with their cyber truck .
If you have the proper EVSE, you can dial in the amperage to suit the supply. Level 2 charging is any 240 volt power level - could be 4.8 kw, could be 12 kw.
@@steinwaymodelb The national electric code specified that a electrical device like ford's level 2 charger rated at 32 amps multiplied by a 125 percent gives you the circuit minimum you can use which is 40 amp . Doesn't matter if you can dial in to a lower amperage because you can still dial it in to that 32 amp maximum and if the circuit is rated below 40 amp is not allowed . Yes you could illegally make a 30 amp 240 work but if you go over 30 amps you are in a overload situation . This could lead to voiding the vehicles warranty . As they say people are literally playing with fire when it comes to electricity . It's to bad Ford did not build in the flexibility that Tesla did for charging . Probably because they just want to get it to market . Hopefully Ford will change this on future upgrades . This particular vehicle is not useful for extended travel . That's just reality. Driving around town ( maybe city driving ) or maybe a 100 mile commute to work is ok but that's not what you want a truck for .
@@stevencole7331 The EVSE is what dictates the draw, not the vehicle connected to it.
@@steinwaymodelb Not necessarily . The vehicle can determine what type of charge it will accept . The Ford lightning accepts a lower rate of charge compared to the Tesla which means it takes far longer to charge .
@@stevencole7331 Ok, I think you have some things mixed up. Most Teslas have an onboard charger capable of a max draw of 32 amps on AC charging. Some are capable of up to 48. The Ford Lightning is capable of up to 60 amps when connected to their highest power AC equipment. Just because it is capable of higher amperage doesn't mean it requires it. Both Tesla and Ford is capable of derated charging. For example, if you're plugged into 110V outlet a Tesla will draw up to 12 amps, but you can reduce that down as much as you like. When you connect with a mobile connector, that device limits the current based on the power available. You can charge at 15 amps, 20 amps, 30 amps, whatever works with the circuit available, the vehicle will just charge slower. It isn't a fixed 32 amps that will either charge at that rate or overload the circuit.
Intelligent load management devices are not required to be connected to circuits rated to the highest possible configuration.
You forgot to mention being able to enjoy the sounds of nature without it being drowned out by engine noise.
@@larrysmith6797 Only 20% of the US grid is powered by coal.
A standard F150 is a far better vechicle until they increase the range. We can only hope the range of the ram and chev is better 🙏.
how can a truck with like 25 miles of range be an overlander
EV cars are entirely practical for 99.9% of most people's daily needs. I've been dailying my Model S for 10 years, and it's fantastic. I'm a huge EV proponent, but I'll be the first to say that for trucks & towing, ev's aren't quite there yet. The problem is the energy density of the battery pack. Today's vehciles have the equivalent of a 3 gallon gas tank on board, and the only reason they're usable *at all* is because the motor is 99% efficient. How far could you go in your gas or diesel truck on 3 gallons? Not far, I'd bet.
Well, now imagine we improve battery chemistry to the point where we have an equivalent amount of energy on board - say 7x what we have today. So instead of a 100kWh battery pack, we have a 700kWh battery pack. How does 700 miles of towing a big trailer grab you? No ICE can match that, and that's coming. There are *many* facilities, both public and private, doing heavy research into battery chemistry and several promising technologies are currently in the labs, promising 2x-4x current densities. That alone would bring EVs in line with ICE for equivalent range - one more 2x on top of that and now we're easily outshining ICE for range. It's coming!
And all of that ignores the OTHER huge line of research - superconductors. Another game changing technology.
The argument for EV’s always involves imagining what might be and hoping for improvements.
@@CommonSense823 This isn't an argument for EVs as much as it is an argument for how much ev's are going to improve. EV's are already practical for 99% of people's driving needs. Just need a bit more battery for that last 1%.
@@ColinFox Making up statistics is the first sign of a poor argument. If EV's were practical for 99% of people's needs, they would represent greater than 4% market share. Do better.
Good truck, okay, maybe even a great truck, but ultimate overlander; don't think so (and dare I say, not even close). Choose your adjectives wisely.
Guys - can you take the F150 on mild off-road (not road crawling, but dirt roads and easy off road) and see the range you get. Pretty sure it will be well over 220 miles - likely over 300 miles.
This means that if you charge 50 mile from off-road adventure, you can easily go 100 miles off road each direction without any issue.
extremely lockable lol
I’m hoping that Roman says model T. Love Tommy’s frustration.
EV is great technology for certain applications but not all applications. It is absurd to suggest otherwise.
Not! And you did not drive it all the way. A ferry comes to mind. 🧐🙏☘️
I feel that Roman is REALLY, really trying to push the F150 Lightning into something that it is not. I really see no real advantage to the Lightning outside of the front trunk that the PowerBoost F150 can do if not be 10x better at when comes to an overlanding vehicle. Again the PowerBoost is where it's at and not so much the Lightning
And BTW, I agree with all the points that Tommye has said and then some against the Lightning as the best overlanding vehicle.
This is like a role reversal. Roman is usually pointing out the downfalls while Tommye is pointing out the benefits and practical use cases. They're just toying with their viewers while delivering some talking points.
Definitely some challenges w the Lightning for camping or overlanding. But I think my more aerodynamic and much lighter GoFast Camper will make it more doable for me. And knowing that I’m not adding to the smog means something to me, too. That frunk is going to let me carry more than my gas F150, namely a propane fireplace and water heater.
But no question about it, not yet the ultimate overlanding rig until the range is doubled. Crawling up a random mountain steep and slow could leave me high and dry in the Lightning!