The Business of Pirate Software
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MISTAKE Correction:
An oversight I made in this video is that not all game sales were made at 9.99. The game has a large following in Brazil, where its price matched to the local currency.
I can also tell you that it's not just the 30% Steam cut you need to take away. As you say, games are sold at different prices in different countries and different countries also have different tax rules on sales, which is deducted BEFORE Steam take their 30%.
So its even less than just price*0,3 :) - in reality it's more like USPrice*0,5 that the game dev gets - and then the game dev have to pay what ever tax in their country to get the money out :)
@@Laumania Also have no doubt he has given away keys to others streamers and content creators to increase viral reach and reviews.
Yes that too.
@@Laumania the 9.99 takes that into account tho, steams pricing the devs set is based on pre-tax pricing, steam adds the region tax ontop of whatever the price is. best example is aus, thor sells it for the same price in aus that he does in america but its still 1-2 dollars more expensive (atleast on the surface since USA adds thier tax at checkout) cause of the sales tax.
Thor is a legend. The industry desperately needs more people like him.
So true! I think he's inspiring the next set of developers!
Your community needs to send him packages labelled "Thor Goblin Lord"
(references to one of his shorts)
@@official_moneybros
I think our community is a one man army right now but that would be awesome!
Yes, Thor literally is a legend.
it really doesn't , if you cant figure out this man is a shill i feel bad for you lol
Dude went from practical anonymity to being mentioned all over youtube in virtually no time... it's insane. And the best part is the content isn't just click bait or mindless nonsense, the dude drops the wisdom hammer frequently!
He seriously deserves to be #1 on Twitch. Least Toxic, most genuine, most ethical, funny, intelligent. He's basically the opposite of someone like XQC.
So true. I should have touched on that in the video. Thank you for watching!
All of twitch is cancer in a whole
@@stephentarantino1313 You could say that about any social media website or app, but it largely boils down to what content you watch or engage with. People say Twitch and Reddit are toxic but the streamers I watch and the subreddits I read aren't. In comparison Facebook and TH-cam seem way more toxic to me, but it's likely because I don't use them as often and get recommended things I have no interest in. If Twitch seems any more toxic than the other sites, you're watching the wrong streamers.
Wait a minute, this is not a video discussing his business, it's just a video about flaterring Thor.
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did u even watch the video
Explain yourself
I had the pleasure of working with Thor at Blizzard. Thor was awesome to work with. I Miss those days. I’m So glad he's kicking ass today!
That's amazing! Just goes to show you what hard work and determination will get you!
@@official_moneybros Not how it works.
You will find an example for everything, including all kind of bad stuff what in the end brings you great success and a lot of money and power.
Coming up with "look at that guy, he shows had hard work and determination works out" mainly tells the big majority of people who work hard and show big determination, but never have the luck to gain success, that it is their fault.
Thor was lucky in many ways.
@@miriamweller812 Thats certainly an important thing to consider but consider this. Succeses is when Determination, hard work and luck Finally hit the right combination. Thor has been streaming Since I believe 2017. Only now in 2023-2024 is he "Relevant". It's not simply luck that he is where he is now.
@@miriamweller812 While I agree hard work on its own isn't a guarantee to success, doing absolutely nothing is a guarantee to failure.
Most importantly Thor's efforts aren't random. They're thought out and tested. If you're doing hard work but all you're doing is a bunch of random things with no plan behind what's next then you'll get a random result. Still better to start momentum on something than to do nothing, but you really want to be thinking on what you can improve as you try things out.
@@official_moneybros Luck is just preparation meets opportunity.
If every person had at least 1% of this man's wisdom and maturity, we would've solved all conflict a long time ago.
he yapps schizo bs
What wisdom and maturity? He spews the most generic content found on Reddit
@bgubs07 He have all that but not being shit heads redditors are.
The meat riding is crazy. His opinion are fucking common sense takes.
@@bgubs07his game has been in development hell for 7 years, and there is only 1 hour of gameplay to show for it, my guy is a more equolent yandere dev.
Thor and a friend of mine that streams on Twitch have raided each other prior to PirateSoftware blowing up everywhere and despite just how crazy this past year has been for him, he hasn't forgotten the people he's met along the way and has that "a rising tide lifts all ships mentality", continuing to put the spotlight on and help so many others. The guy is just the kind of pure soul with a good head on his shoulders that you rarely see nowadays, so I'm just thrilled to have met him online and been able to chat with him. If you're an aspiring...well, I was going to say aspiring game dev or streamer, but if you're an aspiring anything, I cannot recommend just watching his streams and content. They're entertaining, informative, helpful and incredibly inspiring. Go make your game. Do that thing you didn't think you could do or that you thought nobody would like. Do it for you.
Genuinely Doesn't matter what you're into. Thor can inspire you to take action! His Game Jam Starts tomorrow and I'll Be participating!
True, Thor is the great example of a person who is smart, kind, professional and authentic.
And to think he's infusing those qualities into the next generation of devs!
Pirate Software beat the TH-cam Shorts game. Getting recommended to so many people and being good enough that viewers wanted to watch them all.
When you set a social engineer loose in the social gaming world... A goblin king is born.
Bro really has a way with words. I find it hard to motivate friends to code or draw, and I just ended up sending his clips to them and now they are goblins.
His charisma check is on point.
Big asterisk on the game sales figures, Heartbound is VERY popular in Brazil where due to currency exchange and regional pricing, I believe the game only sells for around 4-8 USD depending on Steam sales in Brazil (reminder that sales also happen in the US and other regions, so even the US sales will be lower than expected)
Thank you for the correction!! That was an oversight on my part.
I tried not to make a big deal about the estimation and focus more on how he handles such money.
Wow this is a really nicely edited video. Nice job you guys!
Thank you! We worked very hard on it!
4:23 You also ignored the fact that different countries have different price on the game
That was an oversight on my part! Thank you for correcting me, I will pint a comment pointing out my mistake.
Yeah, buts its all the same price for people overall
@@Tropix_02It's actually adjusted to each country's economy as well. So it's not $10 USD converted but based on I think McDonalds' prices or something similar.
@@ReallyRealBenMills that’s what I meant
4:20 "we get $420,000"
amazing
Game dev content is overall pretty niche actually, compared to most other forms of content. The actual number of game developers, professional and hobbyist are actually pretty small compared to the ocean of Twitch and TH-cam.
But gaming is obviously massive, I think where he was successful is making the arcane art of game development/software engineering easier to digest for the market of gaming content consumers. Similar to how old TV shows like "How its Made" broke down concepts of industrial engineering and supply chain management for the public; where as otherwise they would have no interest in how a basketball is made.
I totally agree! That's a very good way to put it. Definitely something I should have included in the video.
Most corporate game dev literally have their employees sign NDA prohibiting them from talking about their game until official release, because they pay huge amounts of money for curated marketing. Indie games are way more likely to give development insight because they can use it as cheap marketing. It is still however an extremely new thing and most developers would prefer to control the release of information through genuine game journalists and publishers.
I'm a grandad, I been watching Thor's stream. Had to figure it out he's actually talking to young folks on Twitch, and had to figure out Twitch while I was at it. YT shorts doesn't give me the other conversation, just Thor's responses. He's a great mentor Young folks don't know what they got till its gone. In my day it was Microsoft Foundation classes (MFC), JAVA was just coming to be, and Oracle... I actually ran a Oracle database on my home PC configured with Solaris by Sun Microsystems (then). Solaris 8 didn't like my DEC Alpha 1200, but didn't mind my IBM 365 w/ dual Pentium Pro 200mhz CPUs and 16 MB (yes! MB!) RAM. No DDR anything! Did have hot swappable 500mb HDD's. SSDs didn't exist then. I gave up on the programming dream when C# was coming to be and Microsoft said my skills are "too green." I thought you were sposed to get a job to improve skills, IDK...
And ya just can't go wrong befriending a fellow animal lover. Ferrets are cool. I'm a cat and dog person. I don't think the god Thor minds our Thor using his name, gods are all about the common GOOD (minus an O and we get GOD). And Thursday, uhm "Thor's day." well go figure. Dude wears his heart on his sleeve, never seek the wrath of those who expose their heart. If ya do you'll know. Every god has an equalizer, right Mojlnir? I consider him your generation's techie prophet. He's very wise! Even I'm takin' notes cuz he ain't too far off the mark! Whatever team he's on, I'm on. People who can manipulate computers like he can, and openly share their universe of knowledge, all I got is mad cred for the guy. Good to know there's folks like him in the world, doing his part, keepin young folks (and others like me) stay safe with computers. It's not a bad field, just competitive af.
That's super amazing the set up you had! It's awesome to see a good person being pushed by TH-cam in a sea of people who don't care about there audiences. Thank you for your comment and watching the video! It means a lot.
Seeing a grandfather communicate like a millennial is so surreal.
man i love stumbling across videos talking about good stuff in the world like this. I'd heard of him but never really bothered to check out what he was doing before.
He really is one of a kind!
i saw your channel just from this video and its amazing, just a suggestion is you should put this "series" like the business of people into a playlist. one last thing, you forgot to mention he was the goblin lord!
That’s a great idea! We will do that! Glad you’re here 😀😀🙏🙏 And yes he is!
Thor was a blizzard employee so he knows how important it is to treat his employees well
Facts!
Really good video! Only thing I'm missing here is that Thor has a webside develop.games in which he basically comes through whole game development cycle in general from writing a game design doc to actually realising the game.
Its a goldmine of knowledge what tools are avainble to you and what he recommends to use.
Yes! A Very Valuable resource!
I started following Pirate Software since they had 10 viewers dawg, it's insane how much they grew.
That's actually insane! Is so cool to find a creator before their huge and grow alongside with them.
The real question is: How could you afford the demo? It's way too expensive for me! I did buy the OST though!
It's easy: The demo is less than 2 hours playtime, just buy it and then request a refund after you're done!
Two little tips for video editing from the first 10 seconds of the video:
1. For background footage where you scroll a website, enable "smooth scrolling" in the flags of your browser. It looks jittery otherwise.
2. Try to implement animations with easing. Linear animations look very stiff.
Thank you 🙏 we will get better :)
Thor gives me a lot of hope!
Good video!
He really stands out from a lot of other creators! Thank you!
This video was really good, keep it up man
Thank you! It took a ton of time but man was it ever worth it! Hopefully TH-cam picks it up and pushes to a ton of people!
Got to know Thor thanks to YT Shorts, and love his content. Great communicator, inspiring messages, fun anecdotes. Just by the shorts can fall into the variety category, not only the devs :)
Note for those who may have thought heartbound was released like me:
The game isn't fully released yet, it's in early access.
The early access version is the one that's paid for and of course the demo is free
Yes, I should have clarified that in the video, thank you!
Np
Thor is insane. He reminds me of myself... if I would have stick to coding and was successful.
This is to real🤣. Same though
A TH-cam Channel called "The Money Bros" that referred to Gross Revenue as "Gross Profit"
A TH-cam Channel called “fddssdfgfgrgf1” who tried to make a “gotcha” comment lol
By watching this video you know about 25% of things Thor talks about on streams :D
Great video, I've watched PirateSoftware on twitch for over a year, and definitely can say that this video captures most of what Thor wants people to know about him
Although, the most important part was missed - "go make videogames, you can do it, as long as you try"
I just need the right things to make it
Haha Thanks! Yes, that is a very important part!
Small correction, his actual birth name is Thor Goblin Lord. Great video otherwise!
I apologize for the mistake. The title should have been "the business of Thor Goblin Lord."
Thank you for watching!
You forgot to mention before he got his platform, he tried to ruin Matt Patt's reputation just because they titled their video an Undertale-like game and even got Toby Fox involved in the misinformation.
He's no saint as your video implies. He knows what he's doing, and sadly you young kids are easily fooled.
Search it up, there should be articles made during that time. That's how he actually got started, and no one questioned him about it. But he knows.
Oh, I'm Completely aware of the situation. I just happen to think it's really none of my business. He has a dispute over the way another creator handled his content. To Say Toby Fox got caught up in the misinformation is a big statement considering matpat immediately backed down once toby Fox said his piece.
truly one of a youtuber of all time
So true
Thor is a legend, love him.
True
killed it. would be fun to hear other streamer micro documentaries from you
Thank you! Definitely something I've been thinking about!
Best video so far. I'm proud of you guys.
Thanks! Hopefully TH-cam thinks so too!
@@official_moneybros one day. It's going to happen and you will forget me. But that is okay.
@@official_moneybros you deserve more viewers it's a fact.
Haha never. You will always be our number 1 viewer. We will make sure we never forget. If we ever do that's the sign that we forgot ourselves and we wouldn't deserve any one's views.
Are you seeing how crazy this video is going!?
So, recent update about the Ferret Rescue: They've gotten *10* new ferrets in the last week and a half. They're currently housing THIRTY THREE ferrets!
The house they're moving to will be able to house up to 100 ferrets. And they don't temporarily house them and then rehome them. Snail's House is their *forever home.* Shaye and Thor will be keeping all the wigglers they take in, together, permanently.
Ferrets tend to bond, and bonded ferrets can die from being apart from the other ferrets they're bonded to. And Shaye and Thor make sure to take care of their medical expenses, be very mindful of their treatments. Shaye's day-job (yes, Shaye has a frickin' day-job ON TOP OF taking care of 33 wiley little ferrets and being Thor's art designer!) is as a veterinary assistant, so they're trained in giving the ferrets proper care. Which is essential because there are *numerous* ferrets in their care who have chronic illnesses, disabilities, and even cancer! And they pay for all of it and make sure the ferrets are all safe and well taken care of.
So like, Thor is amazing in every way, but so is his team. Shaye is an incredible human-sized-ferret who is so dedicated to the little buggers they care for, it's truly magical.
My partner found Thor's TH-cam shorts and was inspired to get back into programming, and I popped into Thor's stream to give him our Twitch Prime suba s a thank you, wound up watching him for like 8 hours, and then noticed the link to the ferret rescue. It is just...pure dopamine, lol. I now keep the ferret stream up 24/7, because the ad-revenue takes care of the wigglers, and I just want to help them out in any way I can.
They really are incredible people. Thor isn't just online talking about this stuff. They're the real deal. And it's beautiful.
Amazing!
Thor is infectious ❤. Thor would be the best kind of dad
Facts
Wow, I didn't know Thor wanted his company to die with him. That's what I've wanted to do my entire life, I gotta ask him about that server because I had a similar idea but thought it was too science fiction to get away with.
Haha yeah it's a super cool concept!
I have yet to hear any negative things about Thor at all. Dude is royalty
Facts
Position your camera a bit higher to get more flattering image for streaming. You have nice hair, just like Thor!
Thank you! 💇
I've only written a handful of reviews for the dozens of games I played.
Haha Same. Just hadn't Really conected the dots.
I have several hundred games on Steam (about 500), played maybe ONLY 10%-15% of them, at most, and left maybe a total of... 10-20 reviews 👌👌👌
I mean, why would I feel forced to leave review without playing the game enough to have an opinion about it? 🙂
Especially, if I barely played the game or didn't really played it at all. But 1-to-30 is indeed quite a ratio :D
That's a really good breakdown. Just crazy to think about
Review numbers are tiny compared to actual number of buyers, something like 0.1%. Even then, steam has very passionate vocal gamers compared to anything else.
You put 2 AM - 10 PM which means he steams 20 hours a day and not 8 to 10. I think that's another error.
Lol yeah that's my mistake. Along with every other error on the video
Great video bro
Thanks bro
Dude, for your (current) low subscriber count, you made an excellent video. Your subscriber count will flourish if you keep this up homie. +1 from me!
Thanks! We're trying hard! I got a good feeling about these next videos.
here take this like 4 the algorythem, Keep grinding bro 🐯
Never Gona Stop💪
Thor is the kind of game developer we need, as well as spiritual leader.
So true
nice vid dude
Thanks for watching!
we love thor ! we love thor ! we love thor !
Facts
Great video man!
Keep it up!
Thank you! This was my first attempt at a video like this! I was editing for about 14 hours before releasing it! It's now the highest performing video on our channel so I'm super proud of it!
About a few months ago started watching the stream about half a month ago. Thing is you don't have to be a corporation to do any of those things.
good video dude!!
Thank you for watching!
no, he goes by thor goblin lord.
Your right I apologize for my mistake
Bro really said "game only has 1500 reviews, no way it sold 60k copies" lmaoooooooooooo seriously
lol, truly I was surprised but the math checks out. Thanks for watching!
Great video, try to use less cut when youre in front of camera tho its a lil annoying just a tip no hate
Thanks for the tip🙏. Definitely something I'm working on.
2 AM to 10 PM... that's more than 12 hours, no?
Haha that's my mistake. Good catch!
My nine year old Daughter really wants to animate. I used Flash like Adobe. Where what are the good avenues of approach
What kind of animation does she want to do?
@@official_moneybros right now I have her practicing on Ms Paint. She is drawing and video ingredients frames like stop animation. I think any user friendly program would be a good start.
Everything i did in the video was done in Davinci resolve, which is a super great, free, editing software. Its a little intimidating but if she have a certain goal in mind she'll catch on quick.
One thing I've done is record my self digitally Drawing and then I'll edit it down to look more like an animation. I hope this points you in the right direction!
Let me know if there's anyway I can help
Nice vid man!
Thank you! Thank you for watching!
Definitely a cool dude.
For Real. It's rare for a genuine person to find success on youtube.
Aged horrendously.
@@johnlime1469 LOL People are allowed to have different opinions than you.
@@official_moneybros Dude resorts to name calling and banning (or comment deletion or whatever) when someone disagreed with him.
@@johnlime1469 He definitely went too hard on Ross 100%. I think that he needs to calm down and talk to the guy. As for comment deletion as far as I know he only deleted super extreme things, but it's certainly possible he went to hard.
But no one is perfect, and we all deserve to fight for what we think is right. If you watched Rossman's Video, he understands that every viewpoint important in this discussion.
you dont just play the demo.. you buy the demo ;)
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GIGATHOR
Good info
Thanks!
oh man if only you knew the truth
Oh no what's the truth
He’s too busy glazing. Just look at his newer comments. I wouldn’t be surprised if he already banned and deleted a lot of comments. Personally I’d leave em up, would actually boost his channel and show some integrity but what do I know? 🤷♂️
@@MerlinTheCommenter He installs Windows?
youtube shorts was how I also discovered him
He got a good shorts game going on
So fast he did rise, so fast he falls down with his now L take on Stop killing Games, because he as a US citizen does not understand how the EU works.
As also an American, I also don't understand how it works. I think he just wants it to be better defined so something bad doesn't get written into law. Which is fair enough. So so say he's falling off, is exactly the things that are pushing him even farther from what you want. Louis rossmann has a good take on it.
Thors ideas are valid.
So are yours.
So instead of getting mad, maybe work together to make it something we can all stand behind.
@@official_moneybros It doesn´t need to be better defined because an initiative serves as a rough draft of the future law. Basically it´s going to be revised for it to function as actual legislation so that point is moot. And the part where he fell off is arguing in bad faith with Ross, and ignoring Ross´s attempts to open up a conversation. He called Ross disgusting for pointing out politicians like easy positive press. He´s shown his true colours lol.
Ok that makes sense. And I do agree with the fact that he should not have called Ross's reasonings disgusting. That was certainly uncalled for. He's looking at this and seeing the bad that could come from it. I think every "fight" needs the devils advocate.
@@official_moneybros I agree with the devils advocate and if it had just been that, I wouldn´t have cared. My issue is, that to play devil´s advocate you too have to acknowledge the other side which PirateSoftware does not do. He fails to see WHY people care so much about this initiative and simply states "it´s a live service and live service games are meant to end" completely ignoring that videos games are an art medium and irrevocably losing access to any game due to online always requirements, in many cases where it´s unneeded like the crew, completely destroys the cultural and intellectual integrity of the medium.
Yet he chooses to take offence with Ross pointing out that politicians like easy, positive press, as "reflecting poorly on the game industry". Aka he is so tone deaf to the situation, it´s crazy. He also makes tons of appeal to authority fallacies showing a complete lack in balanced argumentation skills. I haven´t seen the guy for long but he genuinely strikes me as an egoistical prick that is more interested in profits and corporate interests rather than consumer benefit. All because he is an indie dev and he wants the legislation to suit his economical interests. His mask just happened to slip off this time. It´s the kind of red flag that makes you stay away from people you meet irl.
And yeah I care a lot about game preservation so I am pissed that someone that large is fighting against the initiative... but hey streissand effect right? That´s a silver lining at least.
There’s a loop at 7:62
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Your sound is very quiet, maybe you could check on that
Will do🫡
Good video👍
Thank you!
i have more than 500 games on my steam account - but reviewed less than a dozen. its pretty normal to not review every shit you do.
Haha Fair enough.
So when is this grifter going to finish his earthbound clone?
Who pissed in your Cheerios that morning?
@@Zio7653 What do you mean
@@thefamilyguy5693
You seem sour for no reason, so I can only assume someone took a piss in your breakfast cereal.
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This is a Thor fansite yes?
I was trying to hide it but yes
that guy is always in my shorts feed and I'm not even subscribed
Same for me, I think he targets people who are not subscribed to him.
For real
@@official_moneybros yeah when he uploads a video he makes the box "send to all my subscribers" unchecked.
Yeah super interesting strategy
great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
lol dude really pretended he had a deep voice
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great subject boring video
Great video, bad comment
5:05 heterochromia?
I stopped supporting him when he said "I'm not sure I'm ever going to fully release heart bound as I enjoy working on it too much" what a waste of time. playing the demo and watching as him play Minecraft and WOW I realized. i was dupped.
I've never heard him say that but I can see why he would. If he's just going to keep updating it over the years what do you think is wrong with that,
@@official_moneybros I hadn't thought of it that way.. updating over the years would be fantastic.
Yeah it would be pretty cool if he just continually updated it.
I bought Heartbound full price, played it for 10 min or so, and stopped playing it.
The game is so good, I dont want to play it until its done. I dont want spoilers.
Haha I'm kinda of the same way. Part of me wants to find every weird interaction and part of my says wait for the full release
please touch your hair more often!
Gotcha next video I'll double it. Thank you for helping me improve!
Wtf does that mean
8 hour days hey, going from 2am to 10pm? that's actually 20 hours a day, lol... way to completely not know how to read a clock. 1:23
Haha lol. I meant 2am to 10am if it wasn't obvious. Good catch though, I somehow missed that.
@@official_moneybros ;P
He’s a genius but I wouldn’t be surprised if he used his hacking skills to some degree to spark his growth 😂
Haha we'll never know!
Bro he 100% botted. Look at his sub count and look at his views.
Very nice video, much love --one of the mods (Magicallstarr5)
Genuinely just made my day! I was hoping that Thor or someone on his team would see this! Thanks for all the work you do!
@@official_moneybros oh we definitely see everything (^: jk when we do we comment if we've got the time. Keep up the good work!
Wow, what a good video.
Spider man meme moment fr